Irydyum's White Widow Project [Archive] - Green Grass Forums

irydyum

08-05-2009, 02:47 AM

Hey everyone. Just wanted to post some pics of my current grow, I'll try to keep it brief unless there is a question to answer. But a bit on the specs:

Seeds from Greenhouse, WW femenized, didn't have that color coating on them though.

400w HPS and 400w metal halide, I am switching them out trying to get the best of both worlds. Used MH for first 2 weeks to limit stretch, switch to HPS for mid flower 3 weeks, then back to MH to finish em off.

Using BioBizz All-Mix system, Biogrow, Bloom, and TopMaxx, and Earthjuice Assist at each feeding. Feedings every other watering. Watering every 3 days, approx 2L per 5gal container.

Here's a couple pics of the plants on day 17 of flowering, and a pic of the setup. One tent is flowering, the other is veg/clone. These were vegged for approx 50 days before triggering flowering.

headshake

08-05-2009, 02:59 AM

you know i'm in my friend!

how do you like those tents? i was debating with either a tent or building a grow area.

nice ladies you've got there by the way!

-shake

irydyum

08-05-2009, 03:06 AM

you know i'm in my friend!

how do you like those tents? i was debating with either a tent or building a grow area.

nice ladies you've got there by the way!

-shake

I love em, plus, I don't have to rebuild when I move. Good thing cause these 2 tents will be in Texas before the year is out. WooHooo. Maybe someday, somehow, you can smoke what comes out of em? Stranger things have happened. :stoned:

MerryPrankstr

08-05-2009, 03:08 AM

Hey now Irydyum...

I grew some WW back in the 90's. Nice strain. Yours looks great, keep it up.

I couldn't help but notice that the two tents are different Mfrs...
I have a DR. if I may, I'd like to ask who made yours, which do you like better and why.

M.P.

headshake

08-05-2009, 03:09 AM

that'd be awesome! i forgot that you are moving this way. hell yeah.

i guess i better start looking at tents.

-shake

irydyum

08-05-2009, 03:16 AM

The one on the left is the DR120 Darkroom. The one on the left is the homebox xl.

My growstore was carrying the homebox, then I went to get another and all they had was the darkroom.

I do notice small light emitting from my veg tent (darkroom with curved openings) when the light is on, so I can't account for it being light tight. I just exercise light discipline in the room with the tents so I know in my application it has no problems.

I have clambaked the homebox xl tho, and I can assure you it is light tight, i'm just not sure of their availability since my store switched carriers.

Both have the same hardware, venting and that stuff, but the Darkroom is silver mylar like on the inside, and the Homebox is white visqueen plastic like.

I like the Homebox better because it has extra layers of material everywhere there is a seam. Overlaps on the zippers and such. The only downside to it is you can only access it from one side. Not a biggie for me as you can see in the pic.

I'm reeeeeallly stoned so I hope this makes sense. I like the Homebox better, but they both serve their purpose fine. My only worry is if you will have light leaking in on a Darkroom, I would set it up and test it thoroughly before putting anything precious in it.

irydyum

08-05-2009, 03:19 AM

I think I can post this link for you here Shake, if I can't, then I'm sorry modgods, we can take it out.

The Dark Room (http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=835)

This is where mine came from. I have met everyone in the store and they are all fantastic people, that's the only reason I keep going back.

headshake

08-05-2009, 03:59 AM

sounds good. i'll check it out. thanks for the link. i always like to do business with good people.

oh, and sorry to fill up your log and keep you all busy and stuff.

-shake

Italiano715

08-05-2009, 04:05 AM

BlewBerry

08-05-2009, 04:10 AM

I have clambaked the homebox xl tho.

I wonder if there is a videotape of that shit somewhere? :cool:

Looking sick my friend and I can't wait till its that time.

The internode streach is very slight, that combined with the huge leaves shows the dominate indica genetics...(you must use the Franco from Greenhouse Seeds voice) :jointsmile:

irydyum

08-05-2009, 04:20 AM

Hey sorry to stir things up a bit, but what are you looking to accomplish with the MH after the stretching stops....I understand that some use that "blue" spectrum to keep the plants from stretching so much, but from what I heard (correct me if i'm wrong) the blue during flowering tends to give you more of the "fluffy" type buds rather than tight dense buds. I myself don't see any benefit from putting the MH back in after mid flowering with the HPS.

Sorry to be such a pain in the @$$ but I'm curious sometimes! :jointsmile:

I have used the MH to flower an entire crop and I don't think the buds were as dense as the HPS, but I do feel they were much more flavorful, and the resin production was higher. This vs. a previous grow of same clones under HPS only.

My thought is to add the HPS now to increase production while the plant is in that "hyperdrive" flowering mode. HPS has the most lumens, so I figure give it the most energy when it really needs it. Then switching back to MH when the growth slows again to push out as much resin as possible. I believe putting the MH back on it with the UV that is missing from HPS, will accomplish that. Thus hopefully, the best of both worlds. Plus I have both lights sitting there so I figured why not.

I'm not telling anyone else to do it by any means, nor am I saying that it will for sure change anything. The stretch may just happen when the HPS comes in, screwing me on keeping em tight or something else to nullify what I have done. Who knows, I'm just putting up the truth, and the whole truth of what I'm up to here.

I don't mind pain in the ass questions at all. It's the stupid ones I mind. "Can my cfl produce like HPS?", or "I'm running 46 watts of CFL and my bottom leaves are dying, HELP!". Those kinda bug me depending on the day.

Italiano715

08-05-2009, 04:25 AM

I have used the MH to flower an entire crop and I don't think the buds were as dense as the HPS, but I do feel they were much more flavorful, and the resin production was higher. This vs. a previous grow of same clones under HPS only.

My thought is to add the HPS now to increase production while the plant is in that "hyperdrive" flowering mode. HPS has the most lumens, so I figure give it the most energy when it really needs it. Then switching back to MH when the growth slows again to push out as much resin as possible. I believe putting the MH back on it with the UV that is missing from HPS, will accomplish that. Thus hopefully, the best of both worlds. Plus I have both lights sitting there so I figured why not.

I'm not telling anyone else to do it by any means, nor am I saying that it will for sure change anything. The stretch may just happen when the HPS comes in, screwing me on keeping em tight or something else to nullify what I have done. Who knows, I'm just putting up the truth, and the whole truth of what I'm up to here.

I don't mind pain in the ass questions at all. It's the stupid ones I mind. "Can my cfl produce like HPS?", or "I'm running 46 watts of CFL and my bottom leaves are dying, HELP!". Those kinda bug me depending on the day.

Yea, I feel ya on those type questions! And what your saying makes sense too. I did hear that blue is supposed to help in resin production, but never tried it myself. I have a CFL grow and do have some of the 6500K spectrum in there as well because I heard it was good for the buds as well. I'm still really trying to get my gardening in tune, but I will learn the details soon enough.

Looking good by the way! I've read a lot of your posts and seen all your attachments (i.e. pictures) and I must say you got a nice setup and your plants seem to be loving it! Whatever your doing, keep on keepin on! :thumbsup:

irydyum

08-08-2009, 10:19 PM

Not much new to report here except the widow is living up to it's name. Its already producing a bunch of trichromes and today is only day 20. You can see the pores on the big fan leaves where resin is readying it's exit. Crazy. I don't know if these pics will let you see em, but it's there.

They look kinda small in the pics to me, but they are 3 feet tall. They are in 5 gallon square containers. Very compact tho, I only topped one of em (pics of her soon), but all the single colas secondary growth is VERY short. Hopefully it all stays as one huge cola. Only time will tell there.

irydyum

08-14-2009, 03:01 AM

What up? All is quiet around here as expected. Just thought I'd throw up a couple pics. I'm really baked so I'm not positive at this moment how long it's been since the last post, but I know I haven't hit halfway through flowering yet. Prob 26/17 i'd imagine.

I wish we had smellovision, the widow smells fantastic. Can't wait to find out how she tastes and smokes. Anyways, anyone dropping by, thanks.

headshake

08-14-2009, 03:15 AM

looks ridiculous!

-shake

LetsSeeYa

08-16-2009, 05:41 PM

Wow, nice looking buds irydyum. I checked out that Attitude seed bank and had my eyes on Wonder Woman by Nirvana. The pic on the site looks close to yours. It said it was close to WW. I wonder what those babys would look like outside. The grow tents look easy too. I wonder if i could fit in one though? Its something i could use in my room.

Great pic's, il be watchin em grow:weedpoke::bigsmoke:

GrowDawg

08-17-2009, 12:46 AM

I Concur with Shake...... Looks friggen RIDICULOUS! Great grow great strain!

NUFF SAID!!!

Send Me A Top Cola! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

headshake

08-17-2009, 01:06 AM

hey irydyum, you know you are my dog. i wasn't trippin off the soil thing. no worries. i knew you were kidding. maybe the MG soil is part of my problem. don't let rusty get to ya. i'm not sure what that ws even about.

when are you planning on heading to texas? i obviously need all the help i can get!

-shake

phatsesh101

08-17-2009, 01:56 AM

lookin good

irydyum

08-17-2009, 03:18 AM

You must spread some rep before repping Phatsesh again. Thanks for showing up in the MH/HPS argument over there. I was thinking to myself, if i had plants under a 1K and a 400, OF COURSE the ones under the 4 and not quite under the 1K yielded worse. The ones under the footprint of the 1K have more fucking light. With that said, i'm just glad someone else backed me up for a change instead of the alternative.

Shake, you my dawg. I like giving you a hard time cause you take constructive criticism well, and for some reason you understand me. I'm hoping to be there around the beginning of october or so. I'll do anything in my power I can for you, I'm losing my protege here when I go so I'll def need another right hand (no one could ever replace you brother). You should really use my yahoo link to contact me one day, I would love to have you in the rolodex.

GrowDawg, thanx for the props....But you must be insane, I might send you some fans, but my colas??? I would much rather stick a fork in my eye, but I suppose there was no crime in you asking:D

Here's another pic or 2, got bored yesterday (day 29) and took some shots. L8r all

Dutch Pimp

08-17-2009, 03:20 AM

you're gonna like the white widow...:thumbsup:...trust me...:stoned:

irydyum

08-17-2009, 03:23 AM

That's the plan DP. Thanks for cruisin through this way, great to see you around here still. I miss the people I looked up to when I first got on these forums, glad to see you haven't left.

Dutch Pimp

08-17-2009, 03:29 AM

Hi ...irydyum...:)...I visit/patrol every day, somewhere. If I can't add something constructive?...I don't say anything.

...anywho...let one of those WW's go 5% amber trichs...crippling high...:thumbsup:

they look very, very nice...I'm jealous...:pimp:

irydyum

08-17-2009, 03:37 AM

phatsesh101

08-17-2009, 03:37 AM

Hi ...irydyum...:)...I visit/patrol every day, somewhere. If I can't add something constructive?...I don't say anything.

haha i do the same but i get tired of answering the same crap

...anywho...let one of those WW's go 5% amber trichs...crippling high...:thumbsup:

they look very, very nice...I'm jealous...:pimp:

a lil amber went along way in my widow (it wasnt ghs). and it would knock me out

phatsesh101

08-17-2009, 03:38 AM

sweet i finally got it to break up the quote:D spread more love elswhere but i tried

irydyum

08-17-2009, 03:41 AM

sweet i finally got it to break up the quote:D spread more love elswhere but i tried

Congrats on that, I gave up a while ago. I figured it would involve a bunch of ME typing and I figured I would match the wrong quote with the wrong peeps. Looks impressive tho:hippy:

BlewBerry

08-17-2009, 05:49 AM

I'm losing my protege here when I go so I'll def need another right hand (no one could ever replace you brother).

(sniffle, sniffle...whimper, sigh) :(

Dutch Pimp

08-17-2009, 06:33 AM

I'm planning on just that. I tend to be an early harvester because I like to be more active while baked, but this time I want the MAX trichs to come out of the widow. I want it to look like that famous pic that GH sells you on when you buy it.

I'm assuming you have grown GHWW before, how long did it take you to get to 5%? I'm hoping it can be done within 9 weeks, I'm within a moving deadline and have a little leeway but not much. I think 10 weeks will be the absolute max I have to finish em.

Have you ever messed with trying to speed em up at the end shortening the days or anything? Anything you can share about the widow with me would be appreciated. Thanks man:thumbsup:
5% amber WW trichs ...causes me to crash like a 747 after about 2 hours...I like that...:thumbsup:

I have never grown GreenHouse WW...only Nirvana WW. One, is probably as good as the other?...but, there maybe a difference in the genetics?

5% amber took 11 weeks for me. My plants basically stop growing after 9 weeks and the final 2 weeks were hell to wait on..:(..but, it was worth it to me.

I feed and water to the point of starvation during the whole grow...so the fan leaves get sucked dry of nitrogen after about 7 weeks flowering. At 9 weeks, I have zero fan leaves; water only and very little at that. Just enough to keep it alive.
This makes harvesting, drying, curing a snap...:thumbsup:...more amber MAY appear during the drying?..I never checked it after the chop.

irydyum

08-17-2009, 09:49 AM

Crazy, looking at those pics I would say that GH and Nirvana have the same genetics. Even down to the way the leaves look that are sticking out of the buds. I love being able to see the details like that.

Thanks for the info DP, I can only hope to yield near what those HOGS look like they gave you. Anyways, who cares what color they are when theyre cured, there goin down either way!!!

GrowDawg

08-17-2009, 12:51 PM

GrowDawg, thanx for the props....But you must be insane, I might send you some fans, but my colas??? I would much rather stick a fork in my eye, but I suppose there was no crime in you asking:D

LMAO! Hey Irydyum! The Answer is ALWAYS no unless you ask!!

phatsesh101

08-17-2009, 04:29 PM

ido the same starvation thing as dutch, thought i was the only one with all the water til runoff talk.

altough i noticed on my widow all the leaves would die near the end anyhow she was a nice yeilder. and if i smoked after work id be asleep in an hour or so.

irydyum

08-22-2009, 04:04 AM

Just snapped a few more in case anyone is still looking in. Took a pic of my submissive masochist, the skunk #1. Same age as all the widows, but she was f'n up my canopy, so I put her in some bondage, and left a couple light scars:D She was a free seed so I figured what the hell.

Dutch Pimp

08-22-2009, 05:31 AM

Looks like that train is running on time...:thumbsup:...one of the best things about the widows; they generally stay compact....:stoned:

Nirvana White Rhino's like to spread out, too....(great for Scrog growing; they have a little skunk gene)

headshake

08-22-2009, 02:49 PM

now i see why they call it "widow". it's like a lot of species of spiders, once they mate the female will eat the male counterpart. looks like that's what happened here.

man, can't wait to see stuff like that with my own eyes. see ya soon!

-shake

irydyum

08-28-2009, 05:40 AM

Just fed the girls today and snapped a couple pics of the White Widows. Can't wait to taste em'.

bonedaddy420

08-28-2009, 05:51 AM

Hot damn man, you are doing an amazing job! I can't wait to see them all frosted up like a freakin snowcone! Or to see the finished product. :)

GrowDawg

08-28-2009, 01:01 PM

Hey Irydyum Picture perfect Plants! Great Work They are going to be amazing!

OrangeAgent

08-29-2009, 05:14 AM

Very nice looking plants Irydyum. :thumbsup:
Thanks again for your help on my MH vs Flouro question.

deleafer2220

08-29-2009, 06:26 PM

Quick question on grow. Can hanging ? Co2 ?

irydyum

08-29-2009, 06:49 PM

No CO2 brother. Would love to use it, but i have to keep my exhaust on 24/7 to deal with the heat in the tent, so I feel it would kinda be a moot point.

killa12345

08-30-2009, 05:36 PM

hey Irydyum......great log.....im running Nirvana WW i have some plants at 35 days and 28 days and your plants look much nicer than mine.....how long you veg for...also, my best friend is where i got the cuts from....he ran her 10 wks and i say she was no where close to being done....im personally looking to run her 60% amber for a pure couchlock high....ill probably take her 77-90 days...ill keep ya posted!

TheDuck

09-04-2009, 02:58 PM

fat fat fat...looking great!:rasta:

irydyum

09-05-2009, 04:20 AM

Thought I would share some bud porn. Day 47 and they are still putting on mass. Quite a few white pistils still popping out, a couple of the girls are about 50/50 white/brown pistils, but trichromes aren't nearly ready for harvest yet. Majority of them are cloudy, with some clear still, I'm looking at about 2-3 more weeks. Couple deficiencies showing up now, but with the mass they have already put on, and nearing harvest, I'm not too concerned with them. Last feeding of bloom should likely be in the next 4 days, then it'll be straight old H2O for the homestretch.

I'm going to bring it down to 10 hours of light on monday, and I'm planning on changing back to my MH to finish them off for their last 10 days or so. Wish me luck :thumbsup:

headshake

09-05-2009, 04:26 AM

looking good my brother!

just curious as to the switching to 10 hours?

just started germing some beans....it's gonna be a purple winter!

-shake

irydyum

09-05-2009, 04:34 AM

Shortening light hoping to speed up the finishing process. I don't have all the time I would like to give them, so I'm trying to trick them, that's all. I have read theories about flowering time as a function of daily light, and they seem to point toward less light giving a quicker finish. I'm not sure if there is merit to it, but I don't have time to make 75 or 80 days on them.

Going back to the MH for the UV that's missing in the HPS. It's always been my understanding that trichromes are in part a defense mechanism against UV, so I want to make sure they put out as much as possible. I know the yield is good if I harvested today, so now I'm concentrating on getting every last bit of resin they have to offer.

irydyum

09-07-2009, 05:59 PM

Just thought I'd put these up today, took some macro close ups of the girls and the pics turned out great. They are really getting frosty now. Enjoy:rastasmoke:

BudE714

09-08-2009, 12:43 PM

Just thought I'd put these up today, took some macro close ups of the girls and the pics turned out great. They are really getting frosty now. Enjoy:rastasmoke:

Irydyum....Those are some glorious looking buds!:thumbsup: I'm into week 6 of flowering of my Dutch Passion WW feminized grow. Colas massing out, and the buds are getting El Thicko'...but, atleast 4-5 weeks to go...growing outdoors...and my girls are roughly 6 feet. My yield, will be perverse! Aint life grand! :jointsmile:

clowe6

11-29-2009, 06:41 AM

how do you put pics on here to have you look at my plants and tell me what you think of them please let me know thanks

bluntpasser

12-05-2009, 04:52 AM

Everything is looking fabulous Irydyum. Your white widow is looking Grade A...:thumbsup:.

moody420

03-20-2010, 08:44 PM

irydyum

03-20-2010, 09:20 PM

haha...sorry for bringing up an old thread...but I have to give you props on this one! This is such a helpful log. I tried my hand at ww this last round and they are nice but DAMN, you did great! :thumbsup:

Just had to comment...those are some beauties and i'll be sure to try the ww again and use this as a helpful guide! :jointsmile:

You are much too kind. If you do try widow, i would go with nirvana's widow over greenhouse. People around here seem to get some beautys from nirvana, and I have been having an issue with greenhouse's femmed seeds. Seems the majority are just itching to hermie out, current grow included.

I have said it before and I'll say it again, know what you are getting into when you purchase femenized seeds. I have gotten some wonderful smoke, but damn it's scary gettin there.