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MerryPrankstr
07-18-2009, 06:06 PM
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Well I've been wanting to grow some sativa dominant variety for quite soe time now. Barney's farm Laughing Buddha is a Thai/Jamaican cross that is sativa dominant and and sounds like a nice mix.

I'm getting my materials together and will start germination on July 21st (marked as favorable in the Farmers Almanac).

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
07-23-2009, 11:00 PM
I didn't pop the seeds because my 6900K CFL lamps didn't arrive yet. The LED rig I'm using tends to give plants too much leg, so I'm waiting. (Thanks Old Mac)!! :thumbsup:

I did build and test a 18 site bubbler clone rig with 100% success rate.
Pretty standard setup, I think. 3 Gal bucket with 2 6" airstones and a 185 gph pump/ six nozzle 360 deg emmiter mainfold.
Thanks Wee-zard !! :rasta:

I cut 18 curly leaf basil starts, dipped them in the root powder from germany my mother-in-law gave me, and dropped them into place. 2 days later I had roots with good growth! This time I used neopreme precut inserts but for the real deal I've ordered some net baskets and SuretoGrow pre-cut plugs.

The next window of opportunity according to the almanac is Aug 30. Now, I don't truly believe that there will any difference by waiting. It's just a nod to my grandpa who encouraged my natural ability to grow things back on the farm. He used to tell me "You a natural, boy", but I really learned by watching him and listening to what he told me.

Later, anyone who might be reading this.
:twocents::twocents:

M.P.

Italiano715
07-24-2009, 02:30 AM
I'm subscribed :thumbsup:

SauceeMcGee
07-24-2009, 06:12 AM
I want to see this from start to finish. Barney's Farm has some really great stuff.

MerryPrankstr
07-24-2009, 11:26 PM
Thanks Italiano and SaucerMcGee!



M.P.

Weezard
07-24-2009, 11:42 PM
You are welcome, M.P.

Look up!
Tiny 'zard nippin' cross da door frame.
I'll snap up any Laughing Budda gnats for ya. :D

Aloha,
Weezard

MerryPrankstr
07-25-2009, 12:13 AM
Great to have you here, looking over my shoulder, Weez.

I keep flipping and flopping between Dirt and DWC.
Maybe keep the Mothers in dirt and clone to run in DWC, but still intimidated by water chemistry that comes with Hydro/Aero.

Just knowing you're around is a great comfort.

Damn if I'm not an old fashioned "for real" dirt farmer, but I keep hearing the call of the "dark side" like Homer's Sirens.

What you say...

If I wanted to run DWC what type of metering would you suggest?

BTW just for the record.

I can't find anything around to touch my humble bagseed grow. You are right about being spoiled.

With proper genetics things could get "scary" real quick....

But I can actually play my guitar again without pain.
What a gift from God.

Thanks Bro,
M.P.

Weezard
07-25-2009, 12:35 AM
Great to have you here, looking over my shoulder, Weez.

I keep flipping and flopping between Dirt and DWC.
Maybe keep the Mothers in dirt and clone to run in DWC, but still intimidated by water chemistry that comes with Hydro/Aero.

Have you considered coco?
Half dirt, half hydro.
The "comfort" of soil, the total control of hydro.
I'm impressed with it and now grow all my veggies in it.
'cept for a DWC W.W. in the sun, that is.

Just knowing you're around is a great comfort.

Damn if I'm not an old fashioned "for real" dirt farmer, but I keep hearing the call of the "dark side" like Homer's Sirens.

Answer dat call! It's for you.
No succubi need apply, da "dark side' has been sanitized for your health and safety.:D

What you say...

If I wanted to run DWC what type of metering would you suggest?

Well, since you ask, I like the digital PH meters made for aquariums. you can leave the probe in the res. and check at a glance.
Easier to spot trends that way.

BTW just for the record.

I can't find anything around to touch my humble bagseed grow. You are right about being spoiled.

With proper genetics things could get "scary" real quick....

Sure did brah

MK Ultra is hard to tame for indoors, but I highly recommend it for lollipopping and outdoors.

But I can actually play my guitar again without pain.
What a gift from God.

Thanks Bro,
M.P.

Amen brother! I'd be housebound without it.

Aloha,
Weeze

MerryPrankstr
07-28-2009, 01:23 AM
Well the actin white CFL's came in. But I accidently ordered 200 watt lamps. :i feel stupid: Damn, I don't know how one could call these Compact Flourecent when the lamps are this big. We're talking 15"x 4 1/2" here.
It's very bright and very very white, almost bluish, so I should be able to keep those seedlings and clones short and happy.

I guess I'll use just one backed off a ways...

Does anyone have an idea how far away I need them to be? :what:

BTW Weez, I ordered a Hanna aquarium PH meter, so I'm preparing for my first attempt at DWC when the clones are ready to flower.

Everything is in place waiting for day 1 to arrive.

M.P.

Weezard
07-28-2009, 02:04 AM
Does anyone have an idea how far away I need them to be? :what:

Your light meter will tell you when to stop, yah?:D

Aloha, Weeze

MerryPrankstr
07-28-2009, 02:13 AM
Hey Weez,
My light meter helps me quantify, but I never measured a light source for seeding/clone so I don't know what my target value is. I was thinking 1,000 to 3,000 lux? I don't think they want it too bright for new seedling clones, but I've been wrong before.

I tried searching for measured lighting levels on the net but I don't think I used the best terms for searching.

At about 3-4 " I can get about 23,000 lux but it does start to get warm.

Do I need to worry about TDS meter for DWC to measure nutrient strength, BTW>

M.P.

Weezard
07-28-2009, 04:01 AM
Hey Weez,
My light meter helps me quantify, but I never measured a light source for seeding/clone so I don't know what my target value is. I was thinking 1,000 to 3,000 lux? I don't think they want it too bright for new seedling clones, but I've been wrong before.

I tried searching for measured lighting levels on the net but I don't think I used the best terms for searching.

At about 3-4 " I can get about 23,000 lux but it does start to get warm.

20k for seedlings 10k for clones, should do.
Seedlings stretch on low light and clones "try too hard" with strong light.

Do I need to worry about TDS meter for DWC to measure nutrient strength, BTW>

M.P.

Not essential unless you are running tests and recording data.
With decent hydro nutes, and a teaspoon, the PH balance will be close, and the gals will tell you when to back off on the nutes.

The TDS meter is very handy for soil, or coco run-off tests.
And the PH meter can be critical to DWC.
You need to fix PH extremes before you see symptoms.
Flushing coco is fast n easy.
Changing water is also.
So, not essential, but useful.

Aloha,
Weeze

MerryPrankstr
07-28-2009, 11:55 PM
I should be able to dial the light in now.
My plan is is to crack a few seeds and choose a mother or two and clone enough to run plus a few backup. I think I run most of clones in DWC but a couple in soil.

Gonna grow more than the Laughing Buddah, but I'm not sure what else just yet. I still have a couple of weeks to read up on DWC techniques, so that should keep me busy.

Thanks again.

M.P.

Weezard
07-29-2009, 02:00 AM
Anytime, Brah.

Joe da farmer makes it look easy, because, well, it is easy.:D

Just added an album to my IC, called 'ventions.

Since the only thing easier than coco, is DWC, I went and got chocolate all ovah my peanut butter.:cool:

Open 24/7, drop on by.

Weeze

MerryPrankstr
07-30-2009, 12:46 AM
Just added an album to my IC, called 'ventions.

Since the only thing easier than coco, is DWC, I went and got chocolate all ovah my peanut butter.

Open 24/7, drop on by.

OK will do. Long tome IC lurker. Joined last CC.com outage but have not yet posted.

BTW my ph meter arrived and my tap water is 7.5 :eek:
I think my target value should be like 6.0 so I know now that I'll have to adjust the ph down a bit at a time.

Popped some test bagseed seeds with a method I read about on IC and got 100% tap root action within 24 hours so I think I'm ready on that new technique. Being a farmer I always just put them in my dirt about 1" down and watered.

Lots of changing for this old dog, but most of it is for the better.
Just waiting for the moon, now...

:twocents:
M.P.

SauceeMcGee
07-30-2009, 06:16 AM
OK will do. Long tome IC lurker. Joined last CC.com outage but have not yet posted.

BTW my ph meter arrived and my tap water is 7.5 :eek:
I think my target value should be like 6.0 so I know now that I'll have to adjust the ph down a bit at a time.

Popped some test bagseed seeds with a method I read about on IC and got 100% tap root action within 24 hours so I think I'm ready on that new technique. Being a farmer I always just put them in my dirt about 1" down and watered.

Lots of changing for this old dog, but most of it is for the better.
Just waiting for the moon, now...

:twocents:
M.P.

Hey MP,

Would it be possible to coerce you into spewing that seed popping strategy from IC?

Just wondrin'

SMG

Weezard
07-30-2009, 10:12 AM
OK will do. Long tome IC lurker. Joined last CC.com outage but have not yet posted.

BTW my ph meter arrived and my tap water is 7.5 :eek:

Perhaps, depending on how pure your tap water is.
If it's as good as ours, that PH reading is meaningless.
Or at least, inaccurate.
Always read PH after adding nutes.
That will assure that there's a high enough ppm concentration to give an accurate PH read.

I think my target value should be like 6.0 so I know now that I'll have to adjust the ph down a bit at a time.

Or lower.:)
Treat coco like hydro.
It likes PH from 5.2- 5.8 But 6.0 will work as long as you dip to the low 5s now and then.
You will find that 1 teaspoon per gallon of hydro nutes like Dyna-grow/dyna-bloom will drop the PH of your water for you to very close to what you want.
And a little Phosphoric acid will fine tune it.

If your PH drifts over time, (and it will), amend to the edge in the other direction.
That will use the drift to "sweep" a PH range, as some elements are unavailable at the high or low limits to an ideal range .
Hope that makes sense, I'm getting too ripped to edit.:stoned:

Popped some test bagseed seeds with a method I read about on IC and got 100% tap root action within 24 hours so I think I'm ready on that new technique. Being a farmer I always just put them in my dirt about 1" down and watered.

With coco. just use plain tap water to expand some of it, put it in a tall plastic cup and poke the seed in 1/2" deep, pointed end up.
They will pop up clean with none of that stuck husk action.
It's an excellent germination media.:cool:

Lots of changing for this old dog, but most of it is for the better.
Just waiting for the moon, now...

:twocents:
M.P.

I'm stoked watchin' an ol' dog embrace a few new tricks.
Goodonya, brah!:thumbsup:

Weeze

MerryPrankstr
07-31-2009, 01:13 AM
Would it be possible to coerce you into spewing that seed popping strategy from IC?

Sure...

I've tried wrapping he seeds in various types of wet absorbant paper without great success, and have enjoyed about an 80% germination rate directly planting them in soil. Here's the new (to me) method.

I got 100% seed germination from bagseed, and have not yet tried it on my Dutch beans so YMMV here.

I took a thick walled ceramic coffee mug and filled it 2/3 with luke warm water that had been sitting for 24 hours to de-gas. Next you gently cast the seeds on the water. They will foat on the top. That's what we want.

Next I covered it with an inverted small shallow bowl placed it in my grow tent which averages a night temperature of 73 deg and daytime temp of 78-79 deg. and covered it with a small towel to assure darkness inside the two vessels.

24 hours later I removed the towel and bowl and the seeds were on the bottom of the cup cracked open and showing about 1/2" of tap root. After draining the water and placing the craked beans on a soaked paper towel I quicky planted them 1/2" down from the surface of pre-prepared starting pots and placed them back in the dark.

Day two (36 hours) later the first seed popped it's head out of the soil. Still waiting on the rest, but I have good hope for the remainder as I didn't expect the first on for another day yet!

Well, there it is.
Seems to work for me.

Weez, got you on the concept of the ph control and drift.
In another life long ( like 30 years ) ago I worked as an engineer and balanced the water chemistry for boilers and cooling towers.

BTW I was truly thiking of jumping all the way from soil to DWC buckets minus the coco. Ya think that's too big of a jump for this ole dirt farmer??? (LOL)

By the way, I gifted the Dinafem Road Runner bean to a fellow Bonsai friend along with 2 of my Cocao Tree seedling (RM48 and Trinidad cultivars). One of my other crazy hobbies is to make fine milk chocolate straight from the bean. Now that stuff should be illegal it's so high test.

My African Baobab (Tree of Life) is showing is starting to show it's second year's growth (joy!). You can't believe what I went through to germinate THAT seed (LOL).

Enough, enough....
:twocents::twocents:
M.P.

SauceeMcGee
07-31-2009, 05:56 AM
Sure...

I've tried wrapping he seeds in various types of wet absorbant paper without great success, and have enjoyed about an 80% germination rate directly planting them in soil. Here's the new (to me) method.

I got 100% seed germination from bagseed, and have not yet tried it on my Dutch beans so YMMV here.

I took a thick walled ceramic coffee mug and filled it 2/3 with luke warm water that had been sitting for 24 hours to de-gas. Next you gently cast the seeds on the water. They will foat on the top. That's what we want.

Next I covered it with an inverted small shallow bowl placed it in my grow tent which averages a night temperature of 73 deg and daytime temp of 78-79 deg. and covered it with a small towel to assure darkness inside the two vessels.

24 hours later I removed the towel and bowl and the seeds were on the bottom of the cup cracked open and showing about 1/2" of tap root. After draining the water and placing the craked beans on a soaked paper towel I quicky planted them 1/2" down from the surface of pre-prepared starting pots and placed them back in the dark.


Thank you so much for that!

SMG

MerryPrankstr
07-31-2009, 10:50 AM
You're welcome SaucerMcGee,

Now I'm not claiming that this is the best way to do it, just that it works best (so far) for me. I'm gonna hav to look into the coco germination method, especially if I'm gonna grow hydo in the future.

I adjusted the nutrient reservoir in the basil DWC from 7.25 to 5.60 over the course of last evening using 5% acidic white distilled vinegar. That's just about in the middle to lower target value for hydro basil grows (per a google search). Now I'll sit back and see how they like it. The roots are about 1" into the reservoir now so they should be taking off soon. They certainly are a LOT greener this morning.

If I can pull this off I will try a production run of LED / DWC good Amsterdam genetics.

M.P.

SauceeMcGee
07-31-2009, 03:23 PM
MP,

You are doing a DWC basil grow? As in the actual herb basil? I'm doing a soil basil grow this season. I just thought that was cool. One of my basil plants smells like sliced pepperoni, the kind you put on pizzas, no joke.

Let me know how it goes,

sMG

fourkicks
07-31-2009, 03:43 PM
your knowledge goes way over my head,,but im tuned in..happy growing

MerryPrankstr
07-31-2009, 10:29 PM
SMG,
Yes, the actual herb basic. I'm doing preliminary technique attempts with the basil because:

1) I need to grow some anyway
2) I don't to waste any good seeds if my first try doen't work out.
3) No needd to worry about sexing or hermies

FourKicks,

I'm not that knowledgable. I'm just standing on some tall shoulders.
Thanks anyway.

Stick around and you'll far surpass me in no time!

All seeds stuck their heads up proudly over the top of the soil, 100% sucess!

Tomorrow I crack the Amsterdam beans, woohoo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
08-02-2009, 12:58 AM
So Mrs P and I sat down and determined what would grow so here's the lineup:
All Feminized-
Barney's Farm Laughing Buddha 1 seed
Barney's Farm G13 x Haze 2 seeds
Reserva Privada Kandy Kush 2 seeds
Dinafem Blueberry x Hash 1 seed

Let's see what actually pops.

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
08-05-2009, 01:59 AM
All seeds have popped their heads using Weezard's coco germination method.

DWC technique experiments have been good as well. I'll probably do 1/2 coco and 1/2 DWC. and see which I like better, but the DWC is already growing on me.

After experimenting with spray and bubbling I killed my water pump shortly after putting some coco filled net pots in place of the neopreme inserts. My plants seem just as happy with just the bubbles (if not more). Once again I feel like I've re-invented the wheel, Weez !

I'll probably post pictures once a week on the weekends.

:twocents::twocents:

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
08-09-2009, 03:55 PM
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Not much to see at this stage.

Let the coco dy out from germination until this morning. Water only to all pots just until start of runnoff.

They were stretching a bit so I dropped the lights to 4" from growing tip.

Kandy Kush and Blueberry Hash have bluish/purple stems. They are on the right.
G13 and Laughing Buddha are green stemed. They are on the left.

For general reference:

Laughing Buddha: Thai x Jamaican
G13: G13 x Hawaiian
Kandy Kush: OG Kush x Arcata Train Wreck
Blue Hash: Blueberry x California Hash Plant

SauceeMcgee:
The basil grow is doing great. I gave 17 of 18 to friends and am DWC the remining one in the clone bucket. It went from 4 leaves to 20 in 3 weeks. I already harvested 4 large leaves for a salad (they were hogging the light anyway) and the plant is thriving.
I forgot to tke a photo of it but will post one in the newar future.

That's it for now.
:twocents:

M.P.

SauceeMcGee
08-10-2009, 05:27 PM
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SauceeMcgee:
The basil grow is doing great. I gave 17 of 18 to friends and am DWC the remining one in the clone bucket. It went from 4 leaves to 20 in 3 weeks. I already harvested 4 large leaves for a salad (they were hogging the light anyway) and the plant is thriving.
I forgot to tke a photo of it but will post one in the newar future.

That's awesome!

I love basil. I just made some really good tea the other day with some basil and some lemon thyme I have growing.

Here's the recipe:

For every cup of water boiled, add 1 tbsp of chopped fresh basil (.5 tbsp if dried) and 1 tbsp lemon thyme (.5 tbsp if dried). You can also add some lemon verbena to that to make it even better, but I didn't have any....

Either way, it is really really good. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I really should have spread my basil out more than they are now because the pot I have them in is not big enough for 11 plants.... :wtf: Either way, they are doing fine. I also have a rosemary plant that is just taking off from seed, it's really awesome.

Anyway, that's enough out of me.

Good work,

SMG

P.S. - I like the Jade in the background

MerryPrankstr
08-11-2009, 08:54 PM
Well I'll be...

I've been growing basil for 50 years and never had any brewed as tea!
I'm gonna have to try that, thanks.

The Jade you see in the background was given to me as a cut, just two leaves at the start. Now it's over 10 nodes high and has 4 to 6 branches on each plant in 8 months! Also in that picture is some catnip, chamomile and marilgold seeedlings.

I also have cocoa trees and a baobab tree as well as the usual ficus and elms. On of my favorites is an European Larch, which is a connifer that looses it's needles every winter.

I guess you can say I'm a growing fool!

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
09-11-2009, 11:40 PM
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Coco Coir media---
Back row left to right:
G13xHaze, Laughing Buddha
Front row left to right:
Kandy Kush, BlueberryxClaifornia Hash Plant



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DWC ---
Top--- G13xHaze
Bottom--- Kandy Kush

Extreme right --- Dynafem Roadunner at two weeks 16 days


DWC is twice the size as the coco grow...
Same lighting, nutrients ph, etc.

Ph 5.8
Vita Grow equal parts A and B @ E.C of 1.58
Rez temp 78 deg F


Thanks...


M.P.

SauceeMcGee
09-12-2009, 11:48 PM
Well I'll be...

I've been growing basil for 50 years and never had any brewed as tea!
I'm gonna have to try that, thanks.

The Jade you see in the background was given to me as a cut, just two leaves at the start. Now it's over 10 nodes high and has 4 to 6 branches on each plant in 8 months! Also in that picture is some catnip, chamomile and marilgold seeedlings.

I also have cocoa trees and a baobab tree as well as the usual ficus and elms. On of my favorites is an European Larch, which is a connifer that looses it's needles every winter.

I guess you can say I'm a growing fool!

M.P.

I can empathize with your love for growing plants! I work in a greenhouse and am constantly surrounded by rare species of orchids that are UNBELIEVABLY gorgeous in bloom and plenty of other bizarre plants!

Let me know when you try that tea recipe, it seems to be very buttery somehow. I find it interesting.

And the plants look nice btw, I'm curious to see how your Kandy Kush turns out. :thumbsup:

Cheers,

SMG

sccrocks
09-14-2009, 03:15 PM
How did your crop work out for you???

I will tune into this thread in the hopes that you post more info, even if just a ramble, cause I am learning lots from you as you really explain things in my language.

Keep Growing:
:thumbsup:

Pay It Forward
Sully

MerryPrankstr
09-17-2009, 03:00 AM
SauceeMcGee,
Tending plants is a grounding experience for me. It makes me feel better just being around them and watching them thrive.

Hope, if you will...

My Kandy kush plants are very nice specimines. Their leaves are wide and symetrical with a pleasing shape and geometry. It's almost gonna be a shame to flower these individuals and I will almost surely clone them because they are so beautiful that they deserve to live on.

I would grow these even if they weren't medicine.


I'll let you know when I make some basil tea, it's almost tea drinking season again!

sccrocks:

They are still growing and I sometimes don't feel up to posting...
No actual picures more that at least once a week.
Not much else unless there's some significant event either, sorry...
Unless anyone has a specific question. Nothing really cutting edge here.

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
09-22-2009, 02:09 AM
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Group shot taken on Set 19.

4 coco grow plants transplanted from 3 1/2" to 6" pots with no hesitaition in growth. This time I flushed the coco until it was about eqaul to tap water (160ppm). The coco straight out of the bag had a runoff of 2200 ppm and took about 8 flush cycles to bring it down to acceptable levels. It made all the difference in the world.

The Roadrunner seedling did not make it. :sadcrying

Busy week in the grow room comming up.

See you next update.
M.P.

Weezard
09-22-2009, 08:54 AM
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This time I flushed the coco until it was about eqaul to tap water (160ppm). The coco straight out of the bag had a runoff of 2200 ppm and took about 8 flush cycles to bring it down to acceptable levels. It made all the difference in the world.

M.P.

W.T. FF?:wtf:
What brand of coco is that?
Does it say it's pre-treated with CalMag?

I'm using Botanicare blocks and have to add Calmag on the first soak,
then I add 1/2 strength nutes to the first water to condition the coco but I've never actually tested runoff from a fresh potting.
I sure will tomorrow, though.
Thanks.

Aloha,
Weeze

MerryPrankstr
09-22-2009, 10:33 AM
Weezard, the name is Sunshine Proffessional Just Coir.

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
09-23-2009, 12:55 AM
Sorry about the brief answer, but was heading out for Radiation Treatment.

I don't think it was Cal Mag, but rather sea salt.

The EC of the coco put my grow back two weeks at least!

around week 2-3:
The leaves were turning yellow and dying off, so I flushed the pots several times until the runoff was relatively clear (vs tea colored) and went off to buy my EC meter. I transplanted one each G13xhaze and Kandy Kush tomy DWC bucket in desperation.

However the flush did the trick. The differece was night and day. My seedlings started to grow again and get greener.

Fast forward to week 6... Flush first after the initial runoff readings... before using adittional coco in transplanting. Everything much smoother fterdoing so.

YMMV depending on the brand I would think...

The bag did say 100% organic and sea salr is, so truth in advertising is still alive and well. Beter to test and rest assured.

M. P.

Weezard
09-23-2009, 01:22 AM
Big Mahalo fo' dat!

Never occured to me that some buggah would get lazy and use seaside nuts to make coir.
At least not without rinsing the hell out of it.:wtf:

That high a ppm of salt should be tasteable.
Went out to taste-test mine and found that I had expanded the last batch with CalMag and 1/2 strenght nutes for transplanting. Ptooi!
It will wait 'til I tear into another block.
But, have had so few problems that I've become complacent.

Just 'cause the last block was OK...

There may be some variability from batch to batch even with the Botanicare, so it will pay to check it right out the gate.
So, I gonna do dat.
Thanks for the head's up.

Aloha,
Weeze

DreadedHermie
09-23-2009, 01:36 AM
Nuted, lightly Calmag'ed and pH'ed water (bottled / well mix) to 1400ppm, pH 6.3.

This was from my soil vs. coco experiment.

Running that nute solution fairly quickly through new, unrinsed Botanicare coco raised the EC conversion to 1580ppm.

Neglected to taste it, though. :glugglug:

Weezard
09-23-2009, 01:42 AM
Pulled a bloomer girl from the LED bloomery and eased her into the sunlight for a day.
Then full sun for 2 days.
When I put her out, the trichs were 90% cloudy with some very rare ambers.

After just 2 days, the sugar leaf was almost 50% amber trichs! Yikes!
Chopped and hung.
Be about a week to dry enough to test right.

But from that reaction, I'd say my girl was either over ripe, or defenseless against UVb.
Makes sense when you consider that clear trichs don't absorb the short wavelengths like the cloudy ones do.

Normally, they are less affected, and as they ripen, as soon as they cloud up they get zapped and are being replaced by new clear caps over time.
Harvest time and timing is important outdoors!

Under leds, they can all ripen to cloudy without being zapped by the UV.
That explains the thicker trich carpet and thc percentage, vs. CBD & CBN.
Dunno if the sunlight will make the high thumpier or not.

Will compare it to the sample taken just prior to her solar debut.
Yay! Another bake-off!:rastasmoke:

It's all factoids,
to store
in our memory's hoard.
We use them,
to help us,
to find the lost fnord
Muahahaha!

Aloha.
Da Weeze

Italiano715
09-24-2009, 12:31 AM
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Group shot taken on Set 19.

4 coco grow plants transplanted from 3 1/2" to 6" pots with no hesitaition in growth. This time I flushed the coco until it was about eqaul to tap water (160ppm). The coco straight out of the bag had a runoff of 2200 ppm and took about 8 flush cycles to bring it down to acceptable levels. It made all the difference in the world.

The Roadrunner seedling did not make it. :sadcrying

Busy week in the grow room comming up.

See you next update.
M.P.

Sorry to hear about your RR not making it! Mine just popped it's ugly little head! lol

The LB is looking marvelous though! I enjoy your posts! Keep em' coming my friend!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to MerryPrankstr again.

MerryPrankstr
09-26-2009, 02:48 AM
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Back G13xHaze
Front Kandy Kush

These are the two plants that we in 6" coco last update. They were transplanted last Saturday into 6" net mesh DWC bucket tops on 5 gal buckets. They have literally exploded and are now 14 1/2" tall. Given the present growth patern they will need to be flipped to flowering by Monday, so this is probably the last pic of them in veg stage

DWC so far has been great in terms of labor and growth ratio.

Update on the rest later this weekend.

Italiano thanks for the friend invitation.
Shake, I'm off to the UPS store tomorrow. :thumbsup:

Good vibrations until the next update...
M.P.

MerryPrankstr
09-29-2009, 11:03 PM
All planned work has been completed.
I now have 1 each in DWC buckets and 1 G13xhaze and Kandy Kush in coco.
Switched from Procyons to TI proBloom 12" from top of canopy
The tallest plant (Kandy Kush) is 19 1/2" now!

Group shot taken today:

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Left to right

REAR: G13xHaze, Laughing Buddha
FRONT: Kandy Kush, BlueberryxCalifornia hash plant.
EXTREME: RIGHT, G13xHaze coco
MISSING: Kandy Kush which is becomming mother plant.
(This one had been dropped by Mrs P during repotting and topped itself to 4th node.)

3rd day

MerryPrankstr
10-02-2009, 01:33 AM
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Classic stretch of the OG Kush that bulks up and fills out like the TW to give you OG flavor and TW nugs

Plant on the left front is Kandy Kush and the stretch is indeed crazy long at 24" tonight...
All the plants share the same light, nutrients, etc for reference. I'm hoping the rest of the description is accurate. ;)

3 of the plants have proved out female, waiting on the rest...

All were feminized seeds.

Questions? I just don't know at this point what may be interesting to anyone.

Heck, I'm a farmer...
With an engineering degree and experience 'till I gave it up.

BTW very dank smell'n in the room, zero outside.

M.P.

SauceeMcGee
10-02-2009, 06:27 AM
Looks like progress is steady my friend!

Props, I'll be sticking around

SMG

MerryPrankstr
10-02-2009, 09:04 PM
Thanks SMG.

Up to 27" today on the KK !

Whew, it's getting stanky at less than 1week flowering, too.
M.P.

MerryPrankstr
10-11-2009, 08:31 PM
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Group shot

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Blueberry Hash (24")

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G13xHaze (19")

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Kandy Kush (Now 39 1/2 ")

On G13xhaze proved male and is now segragated for pollen collection.
Laughing buddha still in veg after 2weeks of 12 so cut back to 7th node to veg a while, then night to 13 hrs / 11 hours day.

M.P.

Shovelhandle
10-11-2009, 11:30 PM
:thumbsup: Looking very nice, MerryPrankster

MerryPrankstr
10-12-2009, 12:50 AM
Thanks, Shovelhandle.
M.P.

SauceeMcGee
10-13-2009, 11:45 PM
Hey MP,

I've been gone quite some time, been REAL busy lately.

Thought I'd stop by and say I admire your progress and thoroughly enjoy the little nugs popping up out of nowhere on your KK plant haha.

Looks beautiful,

SMG

MerryPrankstr
10-14-2009, 09:07 PM
Hey thanks , SauceeMcGee.
It sure is a pleasure growing them!
M.P.

Weezard
10-14-2009, 09:28 PM
I've never actually tested runoff from a fresh potting.
I sure will tomorrow, though.
Thanks.

Aloha,
Weeze

Tomorrow is a relative term round here.

Just tasted my Botanicare Coir.
Tastes dry and bland, not at all salty.
Runoff was 150ppm.
124ppm, going in.
Then I read the fine print. Says it's "Flushed of excess Sodium"

Aloha,
W.

MerryPrankstr
10-15-2009, 01:28 AM
Mine only said 100% organic.
Salt is organic.
I just re-read the entire label (which is in 4 languages, I only read the english version)

In amongs the small print is says:

Causion:
This product may be manufactured in a peanut processing plant.
Do not ingest or breatth it's dust. Keep away from children and pets.

What the heck kind of coco did I buy?
There's only a quarter bag left so next bag will probably be Botanicare.

Not gonna sweat it because now eveything is beyond that point now. I love coco in DWC. Thanks for the shove to the darkside.

Thanks for checking it out for me!

I'm also determined to keep well enough to build and grow an aero/fog rig next time.
Gotta have goals, and something to look forwards to.
Thanks again for stopping in, Bro...
BTW all topics are open in this thread.
;^)

M.P.

gcman800
10-15-2009, 01:34 AM
Ok i need comfort im 6'4 280 not a big belly but more like a lineman kinda look exercise is not to much but i drink alot of liquids and i was clear for 40 days then i smoked on a Friday 9/25 then on the next Friday 10/2 and its been 12 days since i smoked took a urine test today and drank a gallon of Gatorade 2 hours before mixed with vitamin B. How do you think my chances are whats my % of passing?? had a big dinner night before. I Am 18

MerryPrankstr
10-15-2009, 02:32 AM
gcMan800, I don't mind you asking questions like that here, but I don't think I can help you as I don't have any experience in trying to pass a test. I'm a retired farmer so I never took a drug test in my life. Most were still legal when I was still young.
I'm also a legal MJ patient.
I wish you good luck, though...

MerryPrankstr
10-20-2009, 10:43 PM
Well sort of...

The Kandy Kush is blooming like crazy.
The top six inches is now one bud and it already is sugar coated(not supposed to start heavy production for another 2 1/2 weeks). It's so sticky that any cat hair entering my grow area is sticking to the flowers and bracts. I'm gonna have to filter the air going in I think.

Blueberry is coming along fine and G13xhaze is just beginning to flower in ernest.

Laughing Buddha is laughing at me by continuing to veg at 24 days @12/12 hrs.

(LOL)

M.P.

FatSean
10-21-2009, 08:58 PM
Would love to see a few pics of your Laughing Buddha plant. I've got one I've been keeping alive for years despite inability to grow it well LOL

I'm also considering moving to Coco instead of acidic peat-based potting soils that seem to need a different amount of lime for every bag :/ Looks like you can treat the coco as soil, just ensure that your pH is in the hydro range?

MerryPrankstr
10-21-2009, 11:30 PM
FatSean,

They're in 5 gal DWC buckets right now so I have to wait for Saturday to get enough time to get some clear pictures of the LB.

I sorta treat coco like soil.

In soil you have to let the medium dry in order to get some disolved gasses to the roots. In coco every time you water it carries the gases to the roots so you don't have to wait for the medium to dry before rewatering, given a well developed root system. In fact by not waiting until the coco dries out one avoids the ph swings that nutrient enriched mediums can go through.

This is my present system:

I germ, then transplant into a 3 1/2" pot. When the roots start to form around the sides of the pot I transplant intoa 6" pot. When the roots start to form around the side of the 6" pot I pot it into a 6" net basket witha 5" air stone disk in a 5 gal. DWC bucket environment until the end.

While in coco post minus the DWC I water at least once a day (twice a day the week before DWC) stopping when the runnoff starts to exit the pots.
Leave it sit in the runnoff for about 15-20 minutes, then drain off the funnoff.

I supplied nutients with the water every day except for "flushing" Friday (to avoid salt buildups). My water was measured for Ph and EC.
M.P.

headshake
10-21-2009, 11:52 PM
looking good M.P.! can't believe i have posted in here before. i know i've read at least the first half of this thread before.

nice selection of genetics too! the kandy kush is on my to-do list. can't wait to see how all the ladies finish up!

i got a new probe from hanna. shipped it UPS and everything. the only thing they didn't include was a sasche of calibration liquid. no biggie though, i had some left from what you sent. (thanks again!)

good growing (and karma!)!


-shake

MerryPrankstr
10-22-2009, 12:11 AM
Shake, my man...
Forget Kandy Kush.
I see some Rez Chemdog IX-III IBL in your future, bro.
:thumbsup:
Don't throw away any males
;)
Killer gear looks interesting, as do Wally Duck and Doggies Nutz.
I so wish I was younger so I could have enough time to grow them all.
:greenthumb:
M.P.

headshake
10-22-2009, 12:40 AM
double post. my bad.

-shake

headshake
10-22-2009, 12:41 AM
you can read the future?! lol.

i have since moved so if you happen to know anything about my future just don't send it to the old addy!

what's the complete name of that Rez Chemdog IX-III IBL? just curious.

i would love to have some of those males on hand.

you know the email. and i also have a little side project that you might be interested in. hit me up!!!

i'll look into those breeders you listed.

-shake

MerryPrankstr
10-22-2009, 01:14 PM
Shake,
You must know little about the band of Merry Pranksters.
I don't read the future, I see it and then it becomes real! (LOL)
I do realize that you moved (Doh) and previous addy would be dead.
My son still lives at sendng addy, but is not a MMJ user, etc...
LEO would be quite disappointed visiting there (LOL)

The complete name is as stated: Resevoir Seeds Chemdog IX-III
It is double backcrossed to assure stability at this point.

Kandy Kush would be a crossof Chemdog (actually OG Kush) and Arcata Trainwreck. Crosses are all that have been available by seed up to now. Chemdog IX-III has been painstakenly selected and backcrossed to reserve and produce a stable hybrid which expresses the true traits of Chemdawg 99.

Of course everyone knows that Chemdawg is the mother of OG Kush, Sour Diesel, etc...

It's very limited production until Chemdog 4 gets released next month.

Will email you, etc.... I still have KK if you actually prefer it...

Looking forward to expanded horizons made avilable by you, too.

M.P.

headshake
10-22-2009, 05:18 PM
thanks for all the info on the band of Merry Pranksters! i should have known better.

i most certainly have heard of the Chemdog and knew a little bit about it's history. wasn't aware that only crosses were available.

i don't mean to sound like an idiot here, but are you the one responsible for all the work that's going into this?

again, please forgive my ignorance.

i think i would be a fool to get the KK as opposed to the 'Dog. right?!

i will send a discrete email your way. for discretness' sake, i'm gonna substitute coin(s) for seed(s). cool? i won't send one until i get a response.

look forward to hearing from you. by the way, the meter is working like a champ! too bad i found out my water sucks. the pH isn't so bad (~8.18) but my PPM are like at 545. wtf? so i am gonna have to figure out something about my water. yea.


-shake

MerryPrankstr
10-22-2009, 06:05 PM
Aww, shucks Headshake!
Rez has been a commercial breeder since the 80's, certainly ain't me.
But I do have a few friend that got me these straight from Rez. If you go to ICmag, he has a section in the vendor forums. AAA Reservoir Seeds. You can read up on the strain development there if you wish.

Wait'n for your email...
M. P.

MerryPrankstr
10-22-2009, 11:40 PM
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Kandy Kush

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Blueberry Hash

I also flipped the other Kandy Kush that had been damaged during transplanting. This will be Day 1 for her.

More picturs to follow tomorrow.

M.P.

Weezard
10-22-2009, 11:47 PM
That's art!:jointsmile:

Mighty fine!

Weeze (Da Greatful Head)

DreadedHermie
10-23-2009, 12:22 AM
Truly, that Kandy Kush pic belongs in a magazine, or a frame. Beautiful shot, beautiful pot. Well done. :thumbsup:

MerryPrankstr
10-23-2009, 12:31 AM
Golly fellows, you're making me blush. :o
Thanks for the compliments.
I'm hoping it continues as smoothly as it gone so far. ;)
Damn Laughing Buddha (LOL)

Many thanks for encouraging me to move to coco/DWC.
M.P.

MerryPrankstr
10-24-2009, 05:03 PM
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Laughing Buddha

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G13xHawaiian

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Blueberry x California Hash Plant

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Group Shot

Laughing Buddha has finally shown some pre flowers (female)

Recieved 10 ea seeds Rez Chemdog IX-III and Sam the Skunkman Original Haze x Skunk #1 for future runs.

Thanks for stopping in,
M.P.

headshake
10-24-2009, 05:39 PM
everything is looking sharp M.P. also, the future runs sound amazing!

-shake

Weezard
10-24-2009, 07:57 PM
Aloha MP

Had a random thought.

Next time you experience puberty postponed like L.B..:what:

Throw a 60W., clear, incandescent bulb at her for a half hour before bedtime and leave it on for a half hour after lights - out.

(Unless you happen to have a better 730nm. deep red source at hand.)

Don't "know" that it will work, but the science seems to indicate that it will help with bloom triggering.


Really nice work there, brah.:cool:
You "like the challenge" :weedpoke: 'cause you're up to it.:greenthumb:

Keep on keepin' on.
:joint1:Weeze

MerryPrankstr
10-25-2009, 01:43 AM
Weeze,
Thanks for the thoughts about late bloomers. I'll be think'n about that for the Haze x Skunk run as it has a very high ratio Sativa genes and have the reputation of long flowering (12 weeks). I think that's whats going on with the Laughing Buddha, but who's to know, eh?

Thanks for the compliments. I truly love what I do.

Shake,
Thanks, and I havn't forgotten you, bro. ;)
Hope you have tall ceilings !

Later all,
M.P.

MerryPrankstr
10-31-2009, 03:38 PM
Sorry I haven't been around but I had the flu for the last week.

DWC is sure great, the went on and did their thing without intervention. G13xHaze(2nd week floweing) is now 31" and taller than the BlueberryxHash Plant (30" aprox 20 days before harvest). Kandy Kush is fattening up nicely and Laughing Buddha is down to 5 fingers fan leaves and starting to look like it will actually flower.

I'll try to get some pictures in after I rearrange the grow area.

M.P.

MerryPrankstr
11-01-2009, 05:59 PM
Gonna keep this simple as I already gave negative rep to someone I intended to + rep. I must be stuck on stupid.


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Laughing Buddha


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Group Shot

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Kandy Kush Kola top

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G13xHaze ( 2 week)


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BlueberryxHash Plant Kola top

M.P.

SauceeMcGee
11-01-2009, 09:13 PM
MP,

That Kandy Kush looks amazing. Can I get your permission to use that picture in an article I'm writing for Rhino Seeds?

Wow,
SMG

MerryPrankstr
11-01-2009, 09:52 PM
SauceeMcGee,
Of course, there's no problem.
At day 36 they are just about half way through flowering, still plenty of time left to fatten up more and develope those trichs.

Grow data:
300 watts LED
5 gal DWC at just about 2.0 EC (mS) Ph averages around 5.8 to 6.2
Vita Grow 3 part nutrients re-calculated to as close to the Lucas formula as possible using Vita Grow instead of GH Flora. 5" disk airstone. 6" net pot containing coco noir potted until roots ran up the side of solid pots and transfered directly into net pots. No Hydrotron or rock wool to mess with my ph. No coco coir has erroded into DWC bucket.

Photo Data:
Nikon D3 with 35mm f/1.4 lens
Supplimental light is SB800 strobe
f/16 @1/60th sec
distance is ~1 ft.

No macro mhotography yet!

In the interest of full disclosure I burnt the tips of the leaves a bit this last week when I was sick (EC crept up too high), or I suspect she would have looked even better.

Take care my friend,
M.P.

MerryPrankstr
11-05-2009, 02:29 AM
Due to the BS on Killa's Grow Log I have decided to pull the plug on mine. I'll just pop in on other logs and give them the thumbs up instead. To all the cool people on this site, I thank you all kindly for attention and wonderful comments.

M.P.

Moderators please delete my two grow logs and associated attachments, thanks.

headshake
11-11-2009, 07:35 PM
that sucks M.P. but i completely understand.

-shake