I need to know about HERMIES

[birdboy]

I have plants that are 3 weeks from being DONE. They are flowering great.
But these girls have been stressed in more ways then one. I have now found seeds on 4 limbs on one plant (HERMIE). Can i cut those branches off, cure them and allow the rest keep growing as females. The branches are the bottom branches.
I can post pics if really need. but if you have been growing enough you done this so i am curious can you save the rest of the plant.

[LetsSeeYa]

My last grow did that. The thing is, after i saw a few seeds, they just multiplyed. There were 2 plants in 1 large grow box. Too small and also the bitch i live with chucked em off my deck. I taped em up and they grew, but after a month i got seeds comming on. It was to early to harvest so i grew them out. It was hell to clean but the smoke wasnt bad after you got by the taste. Good luck but i think your headed for the same thing in less you can harvest. Im not an expert but i read a lot and never came across stopping a hermy. I read a thread that said the seeds will produce all females tho. If thats true it could be your silver linning. peace man:rasta:

[birdboy]

can you see this pic ? can you see teh seed pod?
or am i freaking crazy.
tell me if it was just a pistol when i broke it open it looked just like a seed

[oldmac]

Hey birdboy,

I actually wrote but could not post (server busy) an answer for you abr 4hrs ago. I am going to try and repeat it, sorta. I see you provided a pic now and all I can say it looks like a 'tard.

There is no need to cut off the bud, tho maybe you did. It would grow out ok just have some seeds in it. Willing to bet you will find more seeds when plants are done. The plants continue to grow as females, just seeded females.

The problem comes from what is called "naners", these are pollen sacks that are shaped like small green bananas located by the nodes. You need to check all your plants carefully for them and remove them. You can use your thumb and forefinger, but then dispose of them in a little cup with water.

Next you need to get a spray bottle and fill it with plain water. Spray your plants well to wet them all over. Then spray your pots, floor, walls, ceiling with water, this will render the pollen that may be around inert.

You need to keep checking your plants every other day for 'naners now, plus figure out how you stressed them and correct that. And next time try to keep an eye out for them.

Good Luck with them, it's not the end of the world. You have just created "feminized" seeds, maybe not the best genetics but fem seeds anyway.

[birdboy]

ohh thank goodness you relied
i havent seen the polen sacks on the nods only lil banana looking things with in the BUD on my biggest plant
we did have males in preflower and removed them as soon as we noticed but never made it to flower stage

the plant that has banana looking things HAS NO SEEDS just those funy looking banana things with in my big fat bud
is that possible?
so heres my other ? the plant that has seeds only but no banana things ..can keep in with the other plant or will it spread seeds?
No banana looking things just seeds.
i will await YOUr reply

[birdboy]

i believ i stressed it by over trimming

[birdboy]

do you have pics of what the nods look like with the banana thing
or better pics of heries in flowering stage. i believi found the hermie but ow can i be sure. i doesnt look like the pics in this webiste

[oldmac]

Seeds don't spread seeds, only pollen can make a seed in the bud. The green thing you found in the bud is a seed pod. Over trimming during flower could possibly do it. More common is a light leak or disrupting the plants night cycle.

Some strains will turn on you very easy others strains take more abuse. But it is always a good idea to check your plants. BTW did you find anything near the node on any of the plants that could have been a pod at one time? It is very possible the plant with the seed is not the one with the naner, it could be any of them.

[birdboy]

i am pretty sure i found the naner, i am posting pic as well
my ? 4 .u is can i put my seeded female back wit the others
the plant i THINK is naner has the banana looking things sticking out of my BIG BUD on top of the plant.
Is that possible that over trimming during flowering will cause bananas to grow
beween buds/
sorry pic wont post

[Rusty Trichome]

i havent seen the polen sacks on the nods only lil banana looking things with in the BUD on my biggest plant
we did have males in preflower and removed them as soon as we noticed but never made it to flower stage
The bananna-looking things are pollen sacks. When they open to disperse the pollen, seeds will form.
Pollen sacks are not confined to the nodes. They often grow within the buds of stressed ladies. Usually easy to distinguish by the different shade of greenish yellow.

Although the water will render the pollen inert, you risk mold or budrot by overspraying. Don't go overboard, and resign yourself to either growing femmed seeds, (which is what you will end-up with) or harvesting early. If you harvest early you will likely end-up with those little popcorn seeds that explode in your pipe, if not found and removed.

[oldmac]

Pollen sacks are not confined to the nodes. They often grow within the buds of stressed ladies. Usually easy to distinguish by the different shade of greenish yellow.


Thanks for posting that Rusty. In all my years I had never seen that happen. Probably because I will usually shit can them at first sign of being Hermie. Just a few weeks ago I found naners on 2 of the 4 non-auto full sized santa maria's (suppose to be lowryder autos) I had placed in the bloom room. Immediately they got taken out and shot. And every other day since I closely inspect the other 2, can't trust them, you know.

[birdboy]

Thank-you Rusty and Old MAc . YOu just confirmed my 4 months of work down the drain!!!!! ;(
Sooo heres ONE more question I have CLONES fomr these plants in vegetative stage.
IS it really likely that these clones will turn hermies as well? we have NOT stressed them and they are growing GREAT.
I really dont want to trash them just for the sake of not having hermies again.

I REALLY can not afford to start from scatch!!!
Please advise.
Is it possible the vegetative ones will be ok IF not stressed?

[Rusty Trichome]

If it was something you did to stress her like opening the room during lights-out, (or a light leak) ph swings, over/under watering...then it isn't a genetic problem and doubtful the clones will automatically be hermie.

Your best bet is to try and take extra precautions not to stress the clones, and keep a religous schedule for watering, feeding and lights. (and keep your fingers crossed) Especially once you put them into flower.

[crabbyback]

The bananna-looking things are pollen sacks. When they open to disperse the pollen, seeds will form.
Pollen sacks are not confined to the nodes. They often grow within the buds of stressed ladies. Usually easy to distinguish by the different shade of greenish yellow.

This is kinda sad and :o to admit. Although a lifelong gardener and pot smoker, I had never seen a "real, live MJ plant" in the flesh, only pictures and some vids. When the banana appeared on one of my Masterkush buds in my first grow, I suspected, but wasn't sure what it was. I never found any pictures of the occurance in my early research. I waited until it opened (to make sure and because I was curious :D) before I decided to cut it. Luckily, I had no seeds form.

Although the water will render the pollen inert, you risk mold or budrot by overspraying. Don't go overboard, and resign yourself to either growing femmed seeds, (which is what you will end-up with) or harvesting early. If you harvest early you will likely end-up with those little popcorn seeds that explode in your pipe, if not found and removed.


Thanks for posting that Rusty. In all my years I had never seen that happen. Probably because I will usually shit can them at first sign of being Hermie. Just a few weeks ago I found naners on 2 of the 4 non-auto full sized santa maria's (suppose to be lowryder autos) I had placed in the bloom room. Immediately they got taken out and shot. And every other day since I closely inspect the other 2, can't trust them, you know.

Funny, that's the only kind of hermie I've seen in my short time of growing.

[Rusty Trichome]

I was between camera's at the time, but I had a lady throw-out a nanner mid-internode. I had to open my room after lights-out, and I was expecting the result. (I had left my smokes in there, and needed a lighter to find 'em) Point is...they can appear virtually anywhere from the base, up.

Anyway, if you didn't know to look in the bud for nanners, they would be easy to miss. A nanner looks a lot like a discolored calyx, so verify it's a nanner before you freak-out, lol. :thumbsup:

[Skihigh]

I hate having to ask a dumb question...but... Could someone post a BIG pic of a hermied branch or bud ??? Or maybe kinda lead me in the right direction? I've tried the search but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Thankx.

[dillhole]

I hate having to ask a dumb question...but... Could someone post a BIG pic of a hermied branch or bud ??? Or maybe kinda lead me in the right direction? I've tried the search but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. Thankx.

Here's one... (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/207832d1226187662-dillholes-first-grow-ww-x-skunk-img_0220.jpg)

Sorry, it wouldn't post as an attachment.

DH

[littlemountain]

Here's one... (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/grow-log/207832d1226187662-dillholes-first-grow-ww-x-skunk-img_0220.jpg)

Sorry, it wouldn't post as an attachment.

DH

here's a pic I took this AM of a Blueberry gone hermie

[Skihigh]

Thank you, dillhole & littlemountain...Those are just the pics I was wanting to see...It's a relief for this ol' first timer!....thanks again!!!

[mikeyman]

i agree with OldMac on this one.I have planted the seeds from my herme plant and they have made some nice looking full female plants.The smoke was good from my herme plant too.:hippy: