Outdoor Grow Log: Purps & BlueCityDiesel

[Joefarmer]

So this is my first log on here. Been a guerrilla for quite a while. Hope these pics come out. I got the seeds from Jordan of the Islands thru kindseeds.com. I started them under a Pioneer Jr. IV in a closet and kept them there for about 8 weeks. First pic is them at 5wks? Next pics are them being transplanted from 4" pots into 1gal containers. They were sucking water like nothing. I noticed and have read that the BCD (BlueCityDiesel it's BlueberryxNYC Diesel) can be nute sensitive. Much more to come Stay tuned!

[Joefarmer]

Sweet! It took my pics. I thought I needed 50 posts first. So I started the seeds in March. They all germed great. Then at a week or two after sprouting I lost two of each to mice or something in my house. I also had two bagseed plants in there as well (in the bigger pots on the left) and one of those was topped by the mouse and survived. It's funny, on several occasions I've had deer top some plants only to make them stronger with 2 main stems; but then again they've also destroyed a few.

[headshake]

it's the blueberry genetics in the BCD that makes it sensitive to nutes. there are a couple of blueberry grow logs around, one by perpetr8r (http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/170025-first-grow-blueberry-mmmmm.html). there is also one by italiano 715 (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/170352-peakseedsbc-blueberry-grow-log.html).

they are both good logs full of info. they might be worth checking out.

looking good. did you throw them in the ground yet?


-shake

[Joefarmer]

These are them at about 10 weeks just before transplanting into 5,7,or 10 gal. containers. Have just used 5gal in the past but bigger is definitely better. I'm growing all organic with "Danny Danko's Magic Organic Mix for 5-Gallon Buckets" taken from the Feb. 08 issue of HT.
Recipe is as follows:
3 parts Canadian Sphagnum peat mix, coco coir or pro mix.
1 part large chunky perlite
1 part worm castings
1/2 cup green sand
1/2 cup dolomite lime
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird guano
1/4 cup Epsom salts

I replaced the worm castings with a local composted cow manure (Moo Doo) because its cheaper and easier to get. For the larger pots I just added a little more with my own judgement. Last year used the peat mix but this year I just used either Moo Grow potting mix, Fafard 3B pro mix, or whatever was left in last year's pots. I'm trying to steer away from the peat now as I'm kind of an environmentalist and the peat bogs/forests are being depleted due to over harvesting, but that's another thread. So I just water once a week (weather depending) with my homemade compost tea until flowering, then I will use Jamaican or Indonesian bat guano tea to finish them off through flowering.

Pics: White pots are BCD (BlueCityDiesel) other ones are Purps.

[headshake]

you got some real beauts there, that's for sure!

good growing.


-shake

[Joefarmer]

Here's another pic. Also forgot to mention that a few are in the ground in as big of holes as I could dig, 2-3'deep X 2-3'wide; hopefully these will be monsters. Anyone who's ever dug a hole in New England will agree that there are alot of F'n rocks here. So they've been in their permanent homes now for 5-6 weeks and are looking great(pics soon) Although its rained here for like 2 weeks straight now so the slugs are out in full force and have killed a few last minute bagseed seedlings I started. But the Purps/BCD are tough guys. A couple BCD have shown Fem. preflowers now, so that's cool and a few Purps I'm pretty sure are males. I heard the purps males stretch wicked and a few are doing that, so I'm keeping an eye on the strongest ones and will be breeding some seeds this season as well.

Thanks shake I'll check those out. Never knew it was the Blueberry that made them so sensitive.

[headshake]

you're welcome. and i can't be positive of that, but bluberry is sensetive to nutes, so i'm assuming. we both know what that can do!


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[Joefarmer]

So much f'n rain OMG. Saves me some time from watering but there's just too much at this point. Some of the holes the pots are in are flooded which means the pots won't drain which means I have to put them on top of the ground which sucks. I killed so many slugs today, they're loving this weather. I wonder if slugs would make a good top dressing? I've got plenty. Will take some pics if the sun ever comes out. Otherwise they're looking really good and beefing up a bit. 2 confirmed BCD females so far. peace

[Joefarmer]

Not the best pics but I was rushed. They're a bit shabby from the slug bombardment as well. Put some "sluggo" down hoping to kill a few of those bastards.
Pics: 1. flooded hole
2. BCD (kinda mangled)
3. Purps . Was gonna let this one grow up, but decided to bend her.

The sun's back! I don't know what to do with myself. Today I literally thought... "omg it's so sunny, I hope they're ok".

[headshake]

Today I literally thought... "omg it's so sunny, I hope they're ok".

lmao!

everything looks good, minus that swamp hole you've got there.

good growing.


-shake

[Joefarmer]

Took some cuttings from suspected fems. These will replace the males.

[Joefarmer]

Things are going well. It's finally summer..kind of.
Pics:
1-BCD ScroG
2-Purps LST
3-5 Bagseed LST

TTYL

[Joefarmer]

sorry. here they are.

[crabbyback]

Joe,

Your plants look great! I envy you outside growers...:(

Subscribed.

[Joefarmer]

Ripped up my first male! Purps about 5 ft tall. I was going on the stretching idea. I heard that purps males really stretch. 3 of 8 are doing this. I ripped the all green one, the other two are purplish stemmed. I will keep one of them for breeding. Of the other 5, only one is purple, so it or one of its clones will be impregnated. I'm phasing out the all green purps as you can see.

3 of the BCD are showing pistils! But other than that they all look the same. Pray 4 more pistils. I will breed some of these too.

I may also cross purpsxBCD. Could be interesting. Hell, maybe I'll even cross purps or BCD with one of the bagseed plants if I like its traits.

I can't wait to try these strains under my LED indoors. I have a log going on there too.

I added some High N Mexican Bat Guano to the compost tea mix. After all the rain I'm afraid I may have lost some nutes. If not, it won't hurt them.

[Joefarmer]

So one of the bagseed plants which I think is sativa dominant due to its thin bladed leaves is acting up. Some lower leaves are yellowing and dying and some of the healthy leaves are curling up on the edges. I doubt its nute burn cuz I've only fed them what's already in the soil plus a little compost tea. It would've burnt them a long time ago if this was the case.

The plant is growing very vigorously, 1 1/2" main stem at the bottom already. So I wonder if it's not getting enough food. I'm gonna hit it with an extra dose of guano this week to see if that helps. Thoughts anyone?

[Joefarmer]

So It's almost thyme for the Bloom nutes. I'm going to use 1-10-.5 Jamaican Bat Guano thru August and .5-10-? Indonesian Bat Guano thru Sept. Don't quote me on those NPK's.

So I'm wondering if any one knows of an organic stimulant of sorts other than Super Thrive that I may add to boost yields. I read bout someone using a cal-something or other. Just wondering.

My clones are just about ready to plant. A few are showing new leaf growth. They'll have to be planted next week because...well its getting late and I want them to be established in their new homes before their fat juicy buds begin forming.

[Joefarmer]

Ripped up my first male! Purps about 5 ft tall. I was going on the stretching idea. I heard that purps males really stretch. 3 of 8 are doing this. I ripped the all green one, the other two are purplish stemmed. I will keep one of them for breeding. Of the other 5, only one is purple, so it or one of its clones will be impregnated. I'm phasing out the all green purps as you can see.

3 of the BCD are showing pistils! But other than that they all look the same. Pray 4 more pistils. I will breed some of these too.

I may also cross purpsxBCD. Could be interesting. Hell, maybe I'll even cross purps or BCD with one of the bagseed plants if I like its traits.

I can't wait to try these strains under my LED indoors. I have a log going on there too.

I added some High N Mexican Bat Guano to the compost tea mix. After all the rain I'm afraid I may have lost some nutes. If not, it won't hurt them.

So the stretching thing may not be so true in regards to the Purps. One of the non-stretchers had balls up the wazoo today. So it's gone, and I'm afraid the stretchy one I ripped up last week could have been fem. Ya just never know.

One BCD and the sativa looking bagseed had balls too. Adios muchachos! One of the BCD in particular(noballsyet) is looking killer. Way thicker, stronger than the rest. Hopefully it'll be a big yielder.

Also top dressed them all with a 1partMex.BatGuano-2part Jam.BatGuano blend. They don't need H20 that's for damn sure. They have not had a chance to dry out once this year. Good and Bad I suppose.

[mazman1989]

those are sexy for being outside why so bushy just let them grow up man

[Joefarmer]

Mazman, I'm using the Screen of Green and Low Stress techniques. You basically train the plant to grow horizontally and then all side branches grow vertically thus producing many "top" colas and increasing yields. This also keeps them shorter which is great for security purposes.

But believe me man I would love to let a few 10+ footers reach for the sky. It's just not very practical here.

[Joefarmer]

Ripped up another green purps but alas another green purps has pistils! Most of the BCD still show no signs but damn they're lookin' good. Very strong. The guano top dressing + a couple good rain soaks definitely shows. They love it!

Pics in a week or so. peace

[mazman1989]

yeah im debating if I want to use both of your techniques. I think im going to try the low stress training first if it gives you more yield.

[byrdog55]

Can't wait to see the pics. Hey mazman your avatar is so sublime I tattooed on my shoulder years ago

[Joefarmer]

OK. Back on the scene. Went 20 days w/out seeing my babies. I've never gone that long before, but hey I'm a busy man.

Was kind of a sad day today as I ripped up a hand full of males but it happens every year. Just gotta put em' in past and move on. On the bright side, less water and nutes need to be used now. Ripped 2 bagseed males and 3 BCD males. Saved one BCD male and isolated him for breeding. I'll pollinate a few lower branches on the select Female. She's a good one too. Large and vigorous with a "take charge" attitude. Just how I like my women. lol I disposed of all the purps males expecting to get another but I didn't so no Purps breeding this year. But I'll probably cross the two.

Pics: 1-2 BCD (breeder)
3 Purps (top view)
4 purps
5 BCD male

[Joefarmer]

more pics
1-3 purps
4 bagseed
5 purps

In pic 1 notice the long stretch before branching starts. I'm not too fond of this as it's not good for LST/scrog. We'll see how it goes though.

[bluntpasser]

joe your ladies are looking beautiful.. im excited for this grow..The diesel is gonna be intense...:thumbsup:

[Joefarmer]

thx BP. What do ya know about the diesel traits? I'd love any feedback. And obviously you know a bit about the BB too. The two should be a great combo, I can't wait!

[Joefarmer]

So one of the BCD was mauled back in July by what I believe to be a rabbit. Pretty much down to a nub save for one or two leaves. SO I left it for dead but she came back to life. And was doing pretty well, just kinda small. So it was attacked again this week and I found it still doing ok but with a few mangled branches. So one branch was totally severed and just laying on top of the soil (still alive). So I took her in, cleaned her up, dipped her stem in rooting gel, gave her a drink of Superthrive and put her into a growcube and put her under a small cfl. She has perked right up and seems happy. I will attempt to re-veg her and turn her into a mother plant. After going thru all of that I'd say she's a tough bitch.

[Joefarmer]

Had a few chilly nights this week. Some leaves turning purplish/bluish. Top dressed with some Jamaican Bat Guano this week before the heavy rains hit. September will bring in the final nute phase of Indonesian Bat Guano 1-2x weekly depending on weather. It's almost October friends! Are yall as excited as I am?! Prying eyes and curious minds make me weary. Karma teaches all.

[Joefarmer]

Pics 1-2 Purps
3-5 BCD Momma. I'm gonna marry her.

The beginning of September has brought the nicest weather of the summer. 7+ days of pure sunshine, 70-80 degrees, and cool evenings. Could not ask for better mid-bloom cycle weather. The ladies are soaking it up. Enjoy the pics.

[Joefarmer]

So the BCD has a funky, sweet, dieselly smell with a possible hint of blueberry.
And the Purps is just super sweet and fruity! Like candy and frosting up very nice. I pollenated a couple buds on my best purps with the BCD pollen. Also hit one of the BCD with a bit too.

This sunny, dry weather that I've been loving can also be a breeding ground for powdery mildew. I've seen a few leaves here and there with some spots, so I removed those leaves. One BCD in particular got a nice foliar wash of compost tea cuz she had several leaves with powdrymildew. Everything else looking great! Some pistils are turning red. It's beginning. Or ending?

[Joefarmer]

They're looking good!

Pics: 1-4: Purps
5: BCD She got mauled by a rabbit in June or July. Maybe I'll get a couple joints out of her.

[Joefarmer]

1-3 BCD momma
4-5 smaller BCD

[Joefarmer]

1-3 Purps. This one's got a ways to go.
4-5 Bagseed

ILUVGANJA

[bluntpasser]

my experience with diesel has been mindblowing...it made me cough harder than any other bud..crossed with blueberry, wow that is just gonna be priceless..:thumbsup:

[bickeybammer]

keep up the good growing joe!!! :jointsmile:

[Joefarmer]

38 Degrees last night. Frost warning too. I'm sure they're fine. The early fall/late spring frosts collect in the valleys and the babes are at almost 1000ft. Yes I'm in great shape. lol

I'm bored so lets talk phenotypes. Purps seems to have several from the 10 seeds I got.
Pic1: 5-6ft tall, purple main stem, no nodes till the very top 1-2ft. Then several nodes and some very nice buds. Pollenated this one with BCD. Had another one just like this, but with a green stem. Ripped it thinking it was male but I may have been wrong.

Pic2: LST, many nodes, nice and bushy, purple stems, very slow in the flowering process. Not sure if it will yield much. 4-5ft tall

Another type(no pic): small and bushy, 3-4ft tall, fastest so far, 50% red pistils. Quality, but small buds. Maybe a 1/2 oz dried?

Another type(no pic):4-5ft tall, Long purple stem, nodes beginning at top 1-2 ft of plant, no branches though, just buds right along the main stem. Very low yield.

[Joefarmer]

Pics 1-3 BCD 4-5 Purps

I snipped a tester bud from the farthest along purps yesterday to check potency... and because I'm dry. Toasted her in the oven at about 180deg. for just under 10 minutes. The bowl produced an instant, deep, body stone. I got all giddy and was tingly all over. Watched this crazy movie and melted into the lazyboy. This is gonna be some good herb when dried and cured. She could use a few more days but there's rain coming. Could take her tomorrow? The rest still need a good week+ though.

Hit 3 of the slackers with some different nutes for one last feeding. I'm outta bat shit so I used fish emulsion cuz it's all I had. Hopefully this will bring them up to par with the rest. I will flush these before harvest. There's just something about fish fertilizer that tells me I should. I will not flush the "bat guano only" plants cuz they just don't need it.

[Joefarmer]

Harvested one purps yesterday. It poured rain all day today and is expected to shower for the next few days. The plants could use another week to finish though. I'll just keep an eye on them for mold etc, and play it by ear. I've harvested in the rain more times than not, so why should this year be any different?

[Joefarmer]

Removed a few bud rotten branches today. Wasn't too bad.
Also, it seems as though the BCD I pollinated is growing seeds everywhere except the few bud sites I actually pollinated. Maybe the neighboring male opened a flower before I removed it? So it looks like I'll have many more BCD seeds than expected. If it's too much of an issue I will sacrifice the plant to the hash screen. I'm not worried. This strain is looking excellent and I'm happy to have these seeds.

Whiffed a purps bud I removed and boy did it smell like grapes! Yummy! No seeds in this one!

[Joefarmer]

If I fertilize my seeded plants now with a lil' N to help seed production, will it negatively affect the flowers' end product? ie potency, finish time?

[Joefarmer]

HAd to take a couple down earlier than I wanted. Tooooo much rain was givin em some bud rot. I picked it off where I could for a few days but it was still spreading so I took one each purps/BCD down. Purps looks f'n amazing! BCD as well except for all the seeds. GOnna have hundreds of BCD seeds! Sow it baby! BCD is sooo stinky. One fresh bud stinks up the whole house. Stay tuned for some sweet bud porn. Just gotta scan the negatives.

[bluntpasser]

wow man. sounds tasty..cant wait for those pics.:)

[Joefarmer]

All dried and cured. Yummy! Much lower yields than expected/hoped for, but whacha gonna do? Free ganj is free ganj. pics soon pc on the fritz

[Joefarmer]

Sorry for the delay. The Purps is delish. With the exception of one plant(pictured) they were low yielders. This one gave close to an oz. The rest, 1/4oz ish per plant. Not very good. I'll mention again how wet this summer was. None of the plants ever had a chance to dry out and were super saturated for many weeks. I believe this, coupled with stress caused by slugs, stunted the plant's growth. :( But the finished buds are beautiful. Indica heavy, super stoney, no burnout. Nice, earthy, fruity taste. Easy on the throat/lungs. An extreme pleasure to smoke or vaporize!

[Joefarmer]

BlueCityDiesel. Super stinky. Better yielder than the purps. The one big one (pictured), had a brief spurt of heavy feeding at the onset of flowering and dried out the soil once. The rest is soggy, but it didn't seem to get as stunted as the purps. I was also a few days late in removing the males (outoftown) so all BCD were full of seeds. On top of that, I couldn't leave them out long enough to let the seeds fully mature. So I spent hours de-seeding to salvage the bud, only to get a dozen or so viable seeds out of the few hundred. The bud's good though. Can't explain the taste...skunky?funky?fruity?Tasty! Great, long lasting, sativa high. Been flooring my friends with this one smoked from a gravity bong.

[Joefarmer]

That closet smelled really nice! Each hanger held one plant. The 2 big buds are BCD.

Almost forgot the bagseed plants! Again, small, but decent yield for the size (2ft). Indica dominant, pretty, round buds (3rd pic, Hanger on the far left).

That's all for a bit peeps. I think I have a few more pics lying around. But for now I'll focus on indoor till spring. Gonna pop some BCD seeds and see how they do under the LED. Thanks for following along. This was one of those seasons that reminds you who's in charge...Momma Nature. She is boss. Don't fuck with her. Maybe next year will be a little drier. :thumbsup: