unhappy grow

[Dirtyotter]

Am in to 21 Days of my Lowryder grow , and my little baby is looking very unhappy , first i thought it was over watering so this morning it was the third day without water and no sign of any improvement. a little panic settled in so just gave it a light watering.

The grow is running off 1*125W red light and two little 30w blue lights running 18hours on and 6 off.

Any ideas as what the problem is here?

For 20 of the days the plant was just growing off the one red light and was happy until about 5 days ago.

[LOC NAR on probation]

It doesn't look that bad. Just a little droop. soil is not my thing. Please fill out the plant problem form the best you can . It will get you alot more help. Peeps don't like asking or dragging answer out of you. At least you put up pic's, most won't do that.

[lee221186]

i grow in soil and i use miracle grow soil keep the roots warm lights on 24 7 room temp 28`c at this temp you can over water them as long as there is good dranage because it will dry out water them once a day and only use white or blue lights red or amber lights are for buding i just had cuttings 2 weeks a go and no probs so far :D

[headshake]

fill out the troubleshooting for as loc nar recommended. you can find the link in my sig.

what size pot is that in?

don't listen to lee's advice. one of my boxes runs hotter than 28c (82f) and i don't have to water everyday.

so we can sit here and shotgun troubleshoot (you know, like when you have a shotgun filled with bird shot and fire from the hip and pick one of the random places a bb hit the target?) all day long. but it's nothing but a waste of time and bandwith.

also, a mix of 75% 6500K (blue spectrum) and 25% 2700K (red spectrum) is recommended for vegatative growth.

lee221186 (is that your name and birthday in your username?) please don't give bad advice. and yes the advice is bad because we don't know what's going on with HIS grow. every environmental factor plays a part in the correct diagnosis. so just because it works with you doesn't mean it's good for him. and if you have to water everyday you might want to look into transplanting.

dirty, i recommend learning the dry weight and the wet weight of your pot and grow medium. use your index and thumb on each hand, pick up the pot and bounce it up and down. this way you will know if they need to be watered or not. guessing is not good. just becuase the soil is dry up top doesn't necessarily mean that is is down below. you might want to stick a pencil or something in your drain hole(s) to make sure that it's not clogged.



-shake

[Lit Up]

Shake, I really like your post. "Layeth the smacketh downeth." as fakeboobs would put it.

[warfrat73]

I'm a bit confused about the 125w Red light and two 30w blue light thing. I see 2 CFLs which are presumably 23w, is that what you are referring to as the "blue lights"? It seems quite unlikely that a plant that small with that much soil relative to its size needs to be watered more than a couple of times a week.

[syde00]

I'm a bit confused about the 125w Red light and two 30w blue light thing. I see 2 CFLs which are presumably 23w, is that what you are referring to as the "blue lights"? It seems quite unlikely that a plant that small with that much soil relative to its size needs to be watered more than a couple of times a week.

thats kinda what i figured myself too... they *could* be 30W CFLs i suppose... i've never seen a 30w cfl but i;m sure they exist.

that being said... i kinda wish when people talked about CFLs they would always reference their lumen count & colour temp. there is such inequality amoung CFLs that even just saying its a 23w CFL doesn;t really maen a whole lot.

I think the real problem stems from incadescent lights where everybody got the notion in their head that watts = light output and they don;t understand that watts is actually a measurement of used energy and actually has nothing to do with light output. Its kind of another one of those things where manufacturing companies have used poor marketting to enforce incorrect information.

[oldmac]

Headshake has got it right, and makes excellent points.


BTW: on another board there is a mod (10K) who has in his signature this:

"How to know when to water container grown plants; lift the pot"
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[headshake]

Shake, I really like your post. "Layeth the smacketh downeth." as fakeboobs would put it.

thanks! "layeth the smacketh downeth." now that's funny. lmao.


thats kinda what i figured myself too... they *could* be 30W CFLs i suppose... i've never seen a 30w cfl but i;m sure they exist.

that being said... i kinda wish when people talked about CFLs they would always reference their lumen count & colour temp. there is such inequality amoung CFLs that even just saying its a 23w CFL doesn;t really maen a whole lot.

I think the real problem stems from incadescent lights where everybody got the notion in their head that watts = light output and they don;t understand that watts is actually a measurement of used energy and actually has nothing to do with light output. Its kind of another one of those things where manufacturing companies have used poor marketting to enforce incorrect information.

not to mention only about 10% of the electricity is actually turned into light, while the rest is just heat.


Headshake has got it right, and makes excellent points.


BTW: on another board there is a mod (10K) who has in his signature this:

"How to know when to water container grown plants; lift the pot"
.

thanks oldmac. you never would have known that i started all this mess last october. these boards are so beneficial. i wish people would learn how to use them as the tool they are and not as some kind of oracle.


-shake