Jake's Bunches O' Beans Grow Log

[jakezking]

The water is really startin' to warm up, so I thought I'd finally jump in....

What we have here is my 3rd grow log which will hopefully lead me to a greater understanding of growing the green. I've learned a bit from my previous grows - mainly because I know how to fuck shit up and I learn the hard way. And, if it weren't for this great board and the kindness of its incredibly experienced members, I would never have gotten my hands dirty. Thanks to all of you!

The beans/seedlings/plants you will bear witness to herein are:

1st Batch
2 Bubblelicious
2 Old School - bagseed from bagweed that reminds me of my high school daze
1 PPP
1 Colombian Red Haze

2nd Batch
1 Lemon Skunk
1 Northern Lights
2 Sour Cream
3 Super Silver Haze

3rd Batch
2 Lemon Skunk
2 Northern Lights

Now, as you will notice, I screwed up my first batch pretty good when I sprayed them with an over-concentrated Neem Oil mix. The lower leaves look burned and disfigured. The spray turned many of the leaves white/transparent and stunted the crap out of 1 OS, the PPP, and the CRH. Like I said, I know how to tear shit up! But, the point is made, and I will read directions on how to properly mix any and all items that will contact my plants - Lesson Learned.

The plants began their lives soaked in water until they sank, thereafter finding themselves in an airy wet paper towel placed on a plate on top of my cable box. All popped tap roots in such manner, and the only casualties (1 LS and 1 NL only suffered because I can fuck shit up! - I pulled their caps off a bit early, resulting in the wilting of the cotyledons).

Once taproots showed, the beans were placed with taproots down in peat pellets with beans covered by a small amount of peat - about the depth of the width of the bean. Once roots began showing through the sides of the peat pellets, I placed/will place them in 20oz Silo cups. I poked 1 hole in the bottom of the cups with other drain holes poked around the bottom sides. All plants are in a soil mixture containing mainly Scott's Premium Soil, which is a very light and airy mulch-like mixture; I really like it so far. I've added about 1/4 more Perlite. The 1st Batch also enjoys a bit of added Vermiculite. And, when transplanting into the Silo cups I added/add a sprinkling of rooting hormone powder to aid in root development.

I have not broken down to purchase any really good nutrients - I need to, but will probably only do so when my conveniently purchased Lowe's/Home Depot available nutes are gone. I have for veg - Schultz Plant Food Plus with 10-15-10 percentages. My flower nutes are Green Light Super Bloom having percentages of 12-55-6.

I have followed the general rule of thumb of mixing nutes around 1/4 to 1/2 strength starting out, and work my way up to full strength - backing off and flushing if notice any ill effects. I really am looking forward to these nutes being gone, as I know my life will be much easier working with more cannabis-friendly nutes with real mixing/feeding schedules.

With all of that lengthy preamble out of the way, we join our log already in progress with pictures from yesterday - pictures to be posted below in add-on posts.

[jakezking]

1st Batch was around day 36 of veg - I track start of veg from poppin' of the cotyledons. I know some people track veg differently, providing for the time when the sprout is a mere seedling, which when leaving the seedling stage then enters the vegetative phase. I have a sincere problem with counting, so I'm keeping it as simple as possible.

These pictures show the 2 Bubblelicious. The first 2 pics show the confirmed male, which I am keeping to breed with select females so I don't have to keep buying beans. I topped the male below all of its pollen sacs in an effort to slow it down while the other plants show sex. The next 2 pics show the 2nd Bubblelicious, which hasn't showed sex. The final picture shows the 2nd Bubblelicious where I topped it.

More pics of the 1st Batch to follow below....

[jakezking]

The first pic here is of the healthy Old School - it still has some deformed leaves, and it's only healthy in comparison to the other OS, which is shown in the 2nd pic; notice how stunted and awkward the growth is? The 3rd pic shows an equally ugly PPP, and the final 2 pics show the burgeoning CRH.

The PPP and the CRH are really beginning to come on strong since I've begun their vegetative nutrient regime. I don't know if it shows in these pics but that over-concentrated Neem Oil incident fimmed the tops of the PPP and the CRH. Basically I think it burned off their tops.

[fluid69]

looks good jake! I'm tuned in for this one. I want to see that lemon skunk and northern lights. did you get fem seeds? (other than the bag seed)

[jakezking]

The first pic is a nice group shot which shows all of the 2nd Batch beauties early in their development. You should see the markings on the sides of the Silo cups showing which plant is which strain. The EG in the mix is an Early Girl tomato.

The 2nd pic is an apical shot of a Sour Cream (DNA).

The 3rd pic is a shot of the Northern Light (Homegrown Fantaseeds).

The 4th pic is of the Lemon Skunk (Feminized Greenhouse Seeds).

And, the 5th and final pic is of a Super Silver Haze (breeder unknown as the seeds came from a dang good bag from a friend - local growers who know what they're doing). I found 8 beans in the bag - lucky me!

[jakezking]

Last but not least is the 3rd Batch. Due to my previously-mentioned issues with a LS and a NL, I decided I needed a couple more of each in my mix.

The first pic shows the close group shot - the peat pellets were placed in an old muffin pan to keep them in order so I remember which is which, as well as to keep a small bit of water in each to keep them from drying out. Lemon Skunks are top with Northern Lights on bottom. The stray NL on the left is 1 that I yanked its cap off too early. It's first set of leaves is extremely small, spilling out of the stem; I'm not sure it will make it, but I don't want to throw it out just yet as it has stayed green and healthy so far.

The 2d pic is of a LS.

The 3rd pic is of a NL.

The 4th pic is of the other NL with its cap still on; I pulled its cap off earlier today, and it's cotyledons are spreading in the sunshine.

The 5th pic is of an African Violet - turned out to be a decent macro shot, so I thought I'd fill the last photo slot with somethin' perty for all you flower lovers. I mainly like flowers with incredible scent, such as Gardenias, but these African Violets are truly beautiful.

[jakezking]

looks good jake! I'm tuned in for this one. I want to see that lemon skunk and northern lights. did you get fem seeds? (other than the bag seed)

Sweet! fluid, it's good to see you on board, especially so early! I appreciate you following along - you can get to see me goof on these plants showing how hardy and how much torture they can really endure at the hands of a novice grower.

The LS is a fem variety from Greenhouse; they were relatively inexpensive as a fem, which is why I actually bought them. I'm pretty darn cheap. The rest of the beans I purchased (SC from DNA and NL from Homegrown Fantaseeds) are not fem. I'm not certain of the SSH heritage or the bagseed, as you stated. The bagseed is interesting though, as several have had the purple stems, which is genetic as compared to a nute deficiency since I noticed it on a previous grow last year. The Bubblelicious and PPP are both Nirvana, and the Colombian Red Haze is from Seedsman - you can check out a previous grow log of mine on the CRH (I think I called it Red Colombian Haze, since I'm 1/2-way dyslexic). The CRH is an incredible smoke - sweet sativa dominance!

Thanks again for stoppin' in, fluid!

And, I look forward to any and all other comments, suggestions, and salutations!

[lunarose]

Jake, I was just about to ask you if you had a grow going and look at what I found:rasta: And aren't you the ambitious Elvis 17 babies. I'm good at screwing things up too fortunately I am almost as equally good at mousing over my screw ups.
They are all looking good even your first batch. Are they outside? If they are then they'll have plenty of time to recover from their neem od. If they are inside I'd give them at least 6 weeks before flipping them. While neem oil is safe to use and all that I'd want to make sure that the "extra" dose of it is long gone before I'd smoke it but that's just me :)

[headshake]

looking good jake! nice selection and variety. i'll be following along.


-shake

[syde00]

haha, i love the muffin pan! that is brilliant!

[Dutch Pimp]

Looking good ...Jake

Is this happening on that lovely back porch of yours?...:thumbsup:

[jakezking]

Jake, I was just about to ask you if you had a grow going and look at what I found:rasta: And aren't you the ambitious Elvis 17 babies. I'm good at screwing things up too fortunately I am almost as equally good at mousing over my screw ups.
They are all looking good even your first batch. Are they outside? If they are then they'll have plenty of time to recover from their neem od. If they are inside I'd give them at least 6 weeks before flipping them. While neem oil is safe to use and all that I'd want to make sure that the "extra" dose of it is long gone before I'd smoke it but that's just me :)

luna, thanks for droppin' in to check on all my lil' ones. They are outside, so it's just going to take a bit more time for them to recover. Half of them are well on their way, with the other half still recuperating. I too have gotten good at correcting my mistakes - chiefly because I have had much practice! It is good catching up with you after our long Winter sabbatical.




looking good jake! nice selection and variety. i'll be following along.


-shake

Thanks for joining me on this fun adventure, shake. I couldn't control myself on wanting to have a couple of each bean strain; hopefully I'll be able to keep up with all of them!




haha, i love the muffin pan! that is brilliant!

Oh do you know the muffin man,
The muffin man, the muffin man?
Oh do you know the muffin man,
That lives in the Deep South?

Okay, I did take a bit of liberty in changing the old nursery rhyme, but I always wanted to be the muffin man - maybe the muffin top man since muffin tops are the best! Glad to have you along for the ride, syde!




Looking good ...Jake

Is this happening on that lovely back porch of yours?...:thumbsup:

DP, me ole matey! Glad to see you around these parts. Yeah, since I had a bit of success this past year with container growing, I thought I'd stick with it this season. It was nice having plenty of bud to tide me over these past Winter months; it was nice being able to give plenty to friends also - even though it's a bit frustrating not being able to tell them where it came from. Hopefully this year will work out well too! I'm happy to have your experienced eyes lookin' over my log. Welcome!

[Shovelhandle]

Hey, I've used the aluminum muffin tins with peat pucks. That works good. Looking fine, 'muffin top' (that's where your gut squishes out of your drawers all around the front, sides, back. Pretty, eh? lol

[dgsgandalf]

Nice selection of strains! I'm actually just starting some super silver haze seeds myself. I hear hazes are pretty difficult to grow. Any tips you can give me like more/less nutes, large/small pot, etc?

I'll be following along. Good luck!

[Italiano715]

Just catching up with your log and I must say they are starting to look wonderful....Can't wait to see how your SSH comes out....I grew SH in my last grow and I was happy with it. Was not as hard as I thought it would be, but I def. could have done things better!

Here were mine about 2 weeks before harvest! Hopes yours treats you well also!!!

[Divestoned]

I saw all the car's parked out front and figured since everyone else is here,ill stop in for a few.I never been one to miss a good party.First guy to pass out Get's his head shaved.:chainsaw:

Dive:stoned;

[Italiano715]

I saw all the car's parked out front and figured since everyone else is here,ill stop in for a few.I never been one to miss a good party.First guy to pass out Get's his head shaved.:chainsaw:

Dive:stoned;


:S2: LMAO! I will be the one to hold em down and then we'll give them a swift kick to the :asskick:

[Weezard]

"Once taproots showed, the beans were placed with taproots down in peat pellets with beans covered by a small amount of peat - "

Aloha JZK.

I have some information that may be useful to ya.
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Good to see ya back in the saddle.

Regards
Weezard

[Divestoned]

That's an interesting notion there weezard.I will do a few test's to see if I agree or not.Thank's for the info.

Dive:stoned:

[fluid69]

hey weezard, what book was that from? I gotta check it out.

[Weezard]

hey weezard, what book was that from? I gotta check it out.

Aloha fluid69

Very old one. Cpywrt '79 & '86
Marijuana
The Cultivator's Handbook
Bill Drake

Ronin Press
out of Berkely.

Lost my original copy and could not remember which side went up, so I just bought a new copy.

Had I thought it through,
the shape of the seeds gives a clue.

Falling to ground, I'd guess, from the aerodynamics, that most of them land pointy side up
Kind like a teardrop.
(No, wait, small drops of liquid are round when falling. Judging from all the high-speed photos I've seen.)
But the falling comment still stands.

I only had 5 seeds, so I looked it up before I planted them.

And, if you think about the need to shed the husk it makes even more sense.
The stem's curve gives it leverage and pulling the partially opened husk through the soil in that direction helps to open and remove it.
Since I started doing it this way, I have not had to "help" one seedling shed it's husk.
The husks stay in the soil.

Regards,
Wee Zard

[quarteroy]

yeah im interested you are growing 2 of the same strains as me now :wtf: Lemon skunk from green house cant wait to see how mine compare under the Led. Think they are just about as far along too. what day did you seed yours? How long are you planing on veggin them? Oh and we are using same Veg fert. I use FF stuff for flower though. Glad to see you are watching my log as well.

(crap thanks weez just realized ive put every seed ive ever done in wrong.)
Peace

[jakezking]

Hey, I've used the aluminum muffin tins with peat pucks. That works good. Looking fine, 'muffin top' (that's where your gut squishes out of your drawers all around the front, sides, back. Pretty, eh? lol

Muffin tops just means good livin', right? It's good to have you on-board here, Shov, especially since you're growin' out some SSH as I type. My lil' SSH seedlings seem to be doing pretty well right now, but I've got plenty o' time to mess things up, so pull up a chair and watch me smash some watermelons with my big sledgehammer!




Nice selection of strains! I'm actually just starting some super silver haze seeds myself. I hear hazes are pretty difficult to grow. Any tips you can give me like more/less nutes, large/small pot, etc?

I'll be following along. Good luck!

gandalf, it's a pleasure to have you along for the ride - I know I've seen some of your outdoor grows on this board, so it's nice having another outdoorsman looking over this grow. I've not messed with SSH before, but have grown some Colombian Red Haze last season. It was a really slow grower, and it took a long while to flower (90 days); but, it was pretty hardy from what I remember. If you're just starting your SSH, I'm lookin' forward to your log too. Shovelhandle has a SSH grow going on right now, and there may be another somewhere; it seems like I remember DTRave growin' some out not long ago too. It sure is some quality smoke, so I'm lookin' forward to seeing it firsthand from start to finish.

Good luck with your grow, my friend, and list your link in here so I can join in your show!



Just catching up with your log and I must say they are starting to look wonderful....Can't wait to see how your SSH comes out....I grew SH in my last grow and I was happy with it. Was not as hard as I thought it would be, but I def. could have done things better!

Here were mine about 2 weeks before harvest! Hopes yours treats you well also!!!

Italiano - I know I've lurked in your logs before, and I apologize if I have not left any comments. I get easily sidetracked, especially when I'm on this board! I'll definitely keep up with your logs from here on out, and I'll appreciate any and all advice you can give along the way, as your SH look incredible. Those pics really show how they get their Haze name - those buds look like they're cloaked in a fog! Sweet! Thanks for stopping by, my friend!




I saw all the car's parked out front and figured since everyone else is here,ill stop in for a few.I never been one to miss a good party.First guy to pass out Get's his head shaved.:chainsaw:

Dive:stoned;

If I knew it was gonna be that kind of party, I'd of stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes - sorry for the Beastie Boys' lyrics, but it's one of my favorite party comments. Glad to see you here, Dive - let's just all keep the mashed potatoes clean, eh?




"Once taproots showed, the beans were placed with taproots down in peat pellets with beans covered by a small amount of peat - "

Aloha JZK.

I have some information that may be useful to ya.
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[attachment=o217482]

Good to see ya back in the saddle.

Regards
Weezard

Weezard, I always appreciate your presence and all wisdom you bring along. You have a way with your words too. And, thanks for these photos and comments - I had always assumed the tap root would head straight South, but it appears I was incorrect.

I've attached a pic of the approximate condition of my beans upon planting in the peat pellets. I always place the longer taproot well down in the pellet, with the cap marginally under peat. I wonder if it still dances a lil' jig before poppin' its head above the peat to spread its cotyledons?

I'll be interested in Dive's experiments in this regard. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge, Weezard! You are always lookin' to help folks out, and I'm always needin' help, so we make a pretty good team, eh?

[jakezking]

Aloha fluid69

Very old one. Cpywrt '79 & '86
Marijuana
The Cultivator's Handbook
Bill Drake

Ronin Press
out of Berkely.

Lost my original copy and could not remember which side went up, so I just bought a new copy.

Had I thought it through,
the shape of the seeds gives a clue.

Falling to ground, I'd guess, from the aerodynamics, that most of them land pointy side up
Kind like a teardrop.
(No, wait, small drops of liquid are round when falling. Judging from all the high-speed photos I've seen.)
But the falling comment still stands.

I only had 5 seeds, so I looked it up before I planted them.

And, if you think about the need to shed the husk it makes even more sense.
The stem's curve gives it leverage and pulling the partially opened husk through the soil in that direction helps to open and remove it.
Since I started doing it this way, I have not had to "help" one seedling shed it's husk.
The husks stay in the soil.

Regards,
Wee Zard

Thanks again, Weezard! With your additional explanation, I understand even better; I've always let my taproots grow out a bit longer rather than plant them in the peat pellets once I see a smidge of root. I thought I was doing the beans a favor, but I've always had problems with them not shedding their caps - probably 1 of 4 beans I have to provide an assist; and, I've even screwed that up a time or 5! Serious and sincere thanks to you for the pics, but also for the follow up, my friend! Mahalo!

P.S. - final edit, I promise - I tried to rep you for your awesome gifts of knowledge, but the board won't let me since I must have repped you not long ago; looks like I need to share the wealth a bit more, but the good karma will definitely find you, my friend!




yeah im interested you are growing 2 of the same strains as me now :wtf: Lemon skunk from green house cant wait to see how mine compare under the Led. Think they are just about as far along too. what day did you seed yours? How long are you planing on veggin them? Oh and we are using same Veg fert. I use FF stuff for flower though. Glad to see you are watching my log as well.

(crap thanks weez just realized ive put every seed ive ever done in wrong.)
Peace

roy, it's good to see you - I just discovered your log not long ago, and you have me seriously interested in those Blue/Red/Orange UFO LEDs. I'll definitely stay tuned to your log to see how your UFOs work - seems like you have a Blue only spectrum for veg, as well as a double spectrum Red/Blue for general usage, but you recommended the trip spectrum?

As for the times on my LS - the 2d batch is at Day 12 Veg, and the 3rd Batch is at Day 3 Veg. My 2d batch has 1 LS, and the 3rd Batch has 2 more - I goofed on 1 LS in my 2d batch and assisted its cap off too early - wish I had seen Weezard's post earlier! I really need to break down and get some good ferts, man; I just hate to see all of the stuff I have go to waste. FF is at the top of the heap from everything I've read. I'm looking forward to following your log, my friend, and thanks for stopping in mine!

P.S. Almost forgot to answer the veg length question - they're outside, so they're on their own timers. I'm interested to see when they'll pop flowers, as I got 2 grows in last year due to an unexpected autoflower on my 1st grow - the Mighty Freeze.

[Weezard]

Aloha! Jake Alii

"I've attached a pic of the approximate condition of my beans upon planting in the peat pellets. I always place the longer taproot well down in the pellet, with the cap marginally under peat. I wonder if it still dances a lil' jig before poppin' its head above the peat to spread its cotyledons?"

Looks like the jig is danced by the time ya pot 'em.:D
"I'll be interested in Dive's experiments in this regard. "

With that sprout pic, I think you just saved DS the trouble.:)
They clearly hang a U-turn, it's in the genes.

"Thanks again for sharing your knowledge, Weezard! You are always lookin' to help folks out, and I'm always needin' help, so we make a pretty good team, eh? "

Pshaw! Anytime brah.

It's not like it makes me late to work.
Like to play, hate to "lurk":D

Beats molesting battered 'taters, yah?;)

Da Weeze, jus' aims to please.
Got dem sticky fingahs.
Got dem dirty knees. :D

W.

[Weezard]

... Glad to see you are watching my log as well.
(crap thanks weez just realized ive put every seed ive ever done in wrong.)
Peace

At least ya didn't shoot :gunfighter2:at da messenger.:cool:
And if all subsequent seeds jump up faster n healthier, from now on?
It's a beeg win, Yah?:D

piece
Weez

[lunarose]

Weezard, I'm with quarterroy I've been doing it wrong too and it certainly explains issues I have had at times. Thanks for postingt that.

[Divestoned]

Hey guy's i been thinkin about it...And what i decided is this-Germinated seed's are not gonna act the same as a seed that germed in the soil.If I have 1-2 inch tap root already..then I am beyond this curving theory,and therefor will do fine too plant root down.However ....If i germ the seed in soil, I may want to place it as seen in the pic's.That's what im thinkin,Deal w/it.

Dive:stoned:

[jakezking]

Aloha! Jake Alii

"I've attached a pic of the approximate condition of my beans upon planting in the peat pellets. I always place the longer taproot well down in the pellet, with the cap marginally under peat. I wonder if it still dances a lil' jig before poppin' its head above the peat to spread its cotyledons?"

Looks like the jig is danced by the time ya pot 'em.:D
"I'll be interested in Dive's experiments in this regard. "

With that sprout pic, I think you just saved DS the trouble.:)
They clearly hang a U-turn, it's in the genes.

"Thanks again for sharing your knowledge, Weezard! You are always lookin' to help folks out, and I'm always needin' help, so we make a pretty good team, eh? "

Pshaw! Anytime brah.

It's not like it makes me late to work.
Like to play, hate to "lurk":D

Beats molesting battered 'taters, yah?;)

Da Weeze, jus' aims to please.
Got dem sticky fingahs.
Got dem dirty knees. :D

W.

Weezard, as I've said before you have a way with words! Speaking of which, thanks for teaching me another Hawaiin word - I had to look up the Alii - what in the heck did we do before the internet? I'm surprised libraries are not out of business!

Lastly, thanks for confirming the jig has been jigged when the taproot has lengthened beyond the hook. If I were to ever get down to the islands, I would love to ease back with you - you know how much Elvis loved the islands of Hawaii! Have a great day, brah!




Hey guy's i been thinkin about it...And what i decided is this-Germinated seed's are not gonna act the same as a seed that germed in the soil.If I have 1-2 inch tap root already..then I am beyond this curving theory,and therefor will do fine too plant root down.However ....If i germ the seed in soil, I may want to place it as seen in the pic's.That's what im thinkin,Deal w/it.

Dive:stoned:

Dive, you reached the same exact conclusion as Weezard - see his post above following my germinated seeds pic analysis. It's really sweet having experienced growers around - maybe 1 day I will be among your ranks. I know I'll have a good time getting there in the meantime.

Be good out there, my friend!

[camoxnhx]

Jake I always look forward to your grows. All the insight you have as young grower! I can't wait to what the SSH comes out with in the end product. So I have a question.... Are you using cfls? The plants look healthy and that sour cream is going to blow your shoes and socks off on the frist hit. :) Lifes a garden.. Harvest the bitch! LOL. Sorry jack herrer always puts me in a funny mood in the morning:)

[McToker]

Very informative log, so far. Sign me up.:thumbsup:

[BeFree]

Dude! 3....Three?! Batches...

We're in for one hell of a rock 'n' roll show.


beSafe king.

[jakezking]

Jake I always look forward to your grows. All the insight you have as young grower! I can't wait to what the SSH comes out with in the end product. So I have a question.... Are you using cfls? The plants look healthy and that sour cream is going to blow your shoes and socks off on the frist hit. :) Lifes a garden.. Harvest the bitch! LOL. Sorry jack herrer always puts me in a funny mood in the morning:)

camo! Always a pleasure to see you especially in a funny mood - best kind of mood to be in as far as I'm concerned. Not a bad way to get in a funny mood either - Jack Herer in the morning? Sweet! As for your question about the CFL's - all 3 batches are outside in containers. I'm seriously considering planting a few in the ground to start a race and note differences between container growing and soil growing. I'm really looking forward to the SSH to see if I can grow them 1/2 as good as the dudes who grew out their moms. And, the Sour Cream is probably the most intriguing for me; Sour Diesel x G13 Haze? What? Insanity at its finest, hopefully even at the hands of this newbie grower.




Very informative log, so far. Sign me up.:thumbsup:

McT - always a pleasure to see your Lil' Rascal roll up. I'm glad there are some experienced growers adding some information, otherwise this log wouldn't be very informative at all! HA! Glad you're along for the ride!




Dude! 3....Three?! Batches...

We're in for one hell of a rock 'n' roll show.


beSafe king.

BeFree - a fine pleasure it is to find you here. Yeah, the 3 batches is a bit excessive (finally dawns on me now that I see them all in containers - with the exception of the 3rd batch which is still in Silo cups). I'm sure some of them will show male and meet their maker, and I have a few stragglers; also, some of them will find another home. I hope to keep around 7-10, some for seeds and some for sinsemilla.

Thanks for joining the show - Any and all the instrumental accompaniments are welcome!

[Dutch Pimp]

Thanks for joining the show - Any and all the instrumental accompaniments are welcome!

"the older the violin ...the sweeter the music"....:thumbsup:

[camoxnhx]

Jake hands down you are the man. I am in 100% in agreement with you on the G13 & Sour diesel both are hands down in my holy grail of best strains i have ever smoked. Now the concoction of the 2 is the only 3 some a man needs. lol

[filo6942]

Im in with you on this one too!:stoned::stoned:

[greenatik]

whats up jake! been a while eh? glad to see you still growing :jointsmile:

I've taken a seat, continue :rasta:

[killa12345]

looking busy Jake......nice log you got going....but I NEED MORE PORN.....lol Joking brotha keep up the awesome show....Killa sits quietly in the corner!

[Shovelhandle]

:smokin:

[headshake]

i guess the plants overgrew him and are now in the process of creating a super strain!

hope all is well jake?


-shake

[jakezking]

Well, the biggest change around these parts is that the 1st Batch, except for the Colombian Red Haze, is now in real dirt. I transplanted them today into the earth, and so far they seem to be loving it. I'm going to try to find locations for several other plants, so I don't have to keep up with so many containers.

As before, I have confirmed 1 Bubblelicious male, which I have planted near the other Bubblelicious and Old School, hoping the second BBL and OS are female so I can get some seeds.

Since the CRH is a slow grower, I left her in her bucket until she develops further.

Sorry for the delay in providing pictures. I took some over the past week, but they weren't the best as I didn't have much time. Hopefully, these pictures are a bit better to give y'all an idea on how the 1st Batch is coming along - updates on the 2nd and 3rd Batches will follow this post, as will replies to all comments.

1st pic = hopefully female BBL
2nd pic = male BBL
3rd pic = hopefully female OS
4th pic = CRH, still in her bucket

As always, thanks for stoppin' in!

[jakezking]

Alrighty then - here is the 2nd Batch in all of its glory. Actually, you'll notice some deterioration of the lower leaves. I'm sure some of it has to do with nute burn; I don't know if I'll ever learn my lesson. Perhaps 1 day I'll break down and buy some nutes that are better suited for MJ so I don't burn my plants all the time. I know all about flushing and 1/4 strength moving up, but I don't know much about patience - all in due time I suppose.

1st pic = Lemon Skunk
2nd pic = Super Silver Haze
3rd pic = Sour Cream
4th pic = Sour Cream
5th pic = Northern Light

More update on the 2nd Batch will follow in a subsequent post....

[jakezking]

Here are the last of the 2nd Batch.

1st pic = SSH
2nd and 3rd pics show SSH which was planted in the earth. It really began faltering while in its Silo cup; its leaves began tacoing and appeared to have been burned; however, I had not given any of the 2nd Batch any nutes. Since I don't really know what's up with it, I thought I'd plant it in the ground to see if it could fend for itself.

I probably should post within Plant Problems, but I like learning on my own - feel free to input some comments/advice/suggestions if you feel like it; but, I'm not too worried about plant problems. Most of the time they seem to resolve themselves; or, I'll know if I goofed something, and I'll flush. Since I'm not inside, I can eliminate a lot of issues pretty quickly. Also, since I'm not inside, most other issues are outside of my control - ergo, no sense in worrying.

Next up - the 3rd Batch, which luckily will be short and sweet, as I've yet to transplant them into buckets. Transplanting the 1st Batch into the earth will allow me the buckets I need to transplant the 3rd Batch - I just need to go buy more soil.

[jakezking]

Finally, we have the 3rd and final Batch. These critters are coming along fine. They actually are not far behind the 2nd Batch - only 9 days of veg, which you can't really tell.

1st pic = NL
2nd pic = NL
3rd pic = lateral view of LS
4th pic = apical view of LS
5th pic = same view of last LS

Oh - forgot to mention 1 last item; the PPP from the 1st Batch showed male, and it was not a very healthy specimen, so I yanked it and shredded it. The Bubblelicious male should do the trick for the beans I'm looking for.

Y'all be good now, ya hear!

[jakezking]

"the older the violin ...the sweeter the music"....:thumbsup:

Very true and spot on comment, my friend. Do you also go by the handle of Pinball Wizard? I swear I saw a dude that reminded me of you on another board. Speaking of pinball - back in the old days, I played a pinball game that was based on a carnival; it had a ferris wheel, roller coaster, etc. It was the wickedest pinball game I've ever seen. Maybe when I win the lottery, I'll track 1 down. Anywhichway, thanks for stoppin' by, my Southern compadre!




Jake hands down you are the man. I am in 100% in agreement with you on the G13 & Sour diesel both are hands down in my holy grail of best strains i have ever smoked. Now the concoction of the 2 is the only 3 some a man needs. lol

Noooooooo - I'm not The Man, and I try hard not to be The Man. But, you're spot on with the Sour Cream; it sounds amazing. I can't wait for it to grow up, out, and all around. It just sounds mind blowing. I haven't had G13 or SD, so I know it's going to blow my hair back. Sweet analogy about the menage-a-trois! LMAO!




Im in with you on this one too!:stoned::stoned:

filo, I can't quit starin' into your eyes! Alright (getting control of himself once again) - thanks for stoppin' in once again. Hopefully I can put on a decent show for all you good folks!




whats up jake! been a while eh? glad to see you still growing :jointsmile:

I've taken a seat, continue :rasta:

Hot Dang - it's greenatik himself! Good to see you after all this time. Now that the Winter doldrums are behind us, we meet again in the Grow Log arena, eh? I saw you at another board, but did not have membership privileges to reply to your post over there. Now I see you back here, which makes my life simpler - I can't get around like I once could. I know you'll have some serious green porn for us all to drool over here soon! Welcome Back!




looking busy Jake......nice log you got going....but I NEED MORE PORN.....lol Joking brotha keep up the awesome show....Killa sits quietly in the corner!

Killa, dude, you're always welcome in the center of the room! Sorry it took me so long to get some pictures up and runnin'. And, there really hasn't seemed to be too much development. I think all of my plants are suffering from the serious heat we've had - not much rain either! But, I hope the posted pictures satiate you somewhat. I need to check in on your green/purple beauties. My ladies are sort of the scraggly Hustler level of porn, while yours are the glamorous Playboy beauties! We'll see if I can't get my ladies some implants, porcelain veneers, tanning bed tans, brazilian waxes, and maybe I can elevate them to Penthouse?




:smokin:

What, I was even testing Shov's patience? Glad to see you're still interested in my green chaos. Feel free to look around and add some advice; I need all the help I can get from you experienced outdoor guys! I need to go back through your threads to look at your nute schedule. I've been looking at Advanced Nutrients or the like; I'm sure they would make my life easier!




i guess the plants overgrew him and are now in the process of creating a super strain!

hope all is well jake?


-shake

Shake! Rattle and Roll, brother! I'm still beboppin' along; just been difficult to get some good pictures. I finally got 1/2 way organized today and sat down to take some comprehensive pics. It's becoming a pretty good challenge keeping up with all of these lil' green buggers; but, it really is rewarding and relaxing. I don't think I could have settled upon a better hobby! Glad to see you here again, my friend!



Now, off to dinner before my wife beats me down! I've been derelict in my household duties putting these pics and update together. But, I will find some time here soon to check out all of y'all's logs. I think I get more joy looking at all of y'all's greenies than I do my own! Aloha, mis amigos!

[headshake]

no worries jake. i completely understand. and also understand what it's like to not take care of ones household duties. i have been building a new grow box over the past 2 1/2 days. (i might get a log up sometime.)

i'm glad the little ones aren't making you loose your mind. i think it's a pretty good hobby too!


-shake

[greenatik]

hey jake they look a little undernuted to me. what kind of soil is that? I had an organic soil that looked similar to what your using, nice aeration with the perlite, but i found out soon that it has no nutrition in it whatsoever. If you decide to get some mj-geared nutes I would get the pureblendpro soil or botanicare granules for a time-release - both will work wonders

glad to be back man! you might get to watch me dangle my feet in hydro next run :blueknife:


:joint1:

[greenatik]

under nuted and maybe overwatered

[jakezking]

no worries jake. i completely understand. and also understand what it's like to not take care of ones household duties. i have been building a new grow box over the past 2 1/2 days. (i might get a log up sometime.)

i'm glad the little ones aren't making you loose your mind. i think it's a pretty good hobby too!


-shake

Shhhhhhhhh.... My wife stepped out for a few minutes, so I had a brief opportunity to catch up on comments, and to get to a few logs. I look forward to your grow box construction log, shake. I'm still debating on whether to go indoor or not. I don't like having my ladies outside where a casual observer could put 2 + 2 together under the right circumstances. Good luck to you on keeping your hobby under control enough to satisfy your household duties. I think my hobby has turned into an obsession, but again, don't tell my wife!




hey jake they look a little undernuted to me. what kind of soil is that? I had an organic soil that looked similar to what your using, nice aeration with the perlite, but i found out soon that it has no nutrition in it whatsoever. If you decide to get some mj-geared nutes I would get the pureblendpro soil or botanicare granules for a time-release - both will work wonders

glad to be back man! you might get to watch me dangle my feet in hydro next run :blueknife:


:joint1:


under nuted and maybe overwatered

greenatik, I greatly appreciate the advice. I need to pay more attention to watering, especially where I try to overcompensate during dryer times. I need to check each bucket, as each of these lil' greenies drinks different amounts. I'm lazy and tend to just pour water for all of them, not wanting to leave any out. I agree with you that there are at least a few of them that are probably overwatered. Also, I agree with you they very well may be undernourished as I am used to feeding in MG soil. I did go for some soil with no nutes, and even have some soil with no nutes and with supreme drainage, so water runs right through, as I imagine it does in coco coir. I'll pay more attention to both issues. Thanks again, my friend!

[Shovelhandle]

A white or clear plastic bottle or jug with the bottom cut from it can be used to buffer and improve the outdoor environment for little tiny seedlings. Put the jug over the wee plant. I use this for garden plants in the early Spring.

Use mulch also. Fine pine bark, peat moss, grass clippings/straw, wood shavings/sawdust, works to buffer the topsoil's moisture and can help with insect pests too.

[lunarose]

Shove, I like to use 3 liter shasta bottles that I cut off their tops and use on my seedlings.

Jake, LOL! I know what you mean by an obsession smoking pot may not be addicting but growing it sure is. I have a tendency to over water too so I got a gizmo at Home De pot that gauges the water content and I am surprised by its results in both directions more times then not. So how about some new pics!

[lunarose]

Jake, Oh tell your wife that caring for your little grows will make you a more sensitive and nurturing man.....if that doesn't work then tell in that in 15-20 years when she becomes a quivering mass of hormones she'll be grateful for all your growing experience(BG)

[jakezking]

A white or clear plastic bottle or jug with the bottom cut from it can be used to buffer and improve the outdoor environment for little tiny seedlings. Put the jug over the wee plant. I use this for garden plants in the early Spring.

Use mulch also. Fine pine bark, peat moss, grass clippings/straw, wood shavings/sawdust, works to buffer the topsoil's moisture and can help with insect pests too.

Shov, muchas gracias for the fine advice here! It's really why I am a member here - the helpfulness of the experienced growers. These lil' nuggets will not only help me on future grows but should also help other readers! Thanks - as always - for stopping in, my green-thumbed friend!




Shove, I like to use 3 liter shasta bottles that I cut off their tops and use on my seedlings.

Jake, LOL! I know what you mean by an obsession smoking pot may not be addicting but growing it sure is. I have a tendency to over water too so I got a gizmo at Home De pot that gauges the water content and I am surprised by its results in both directions more times then not. So how about some new pics!

I know what you mean by growing being addictive; sort of like the Pringles commercials - once you pop, you can't stop! New pics are about to be posted; although this batch of photos isn't that good. I will take some time to take some better photos - hopefully later this week.




Jake, Oh tell your wife that caring for your little grows will make you a more sensitive and nurturing man.....if that doesn't work then tell in that in 15-20 years when she becomes a quivering mass of hormones she'll be grateful for all your growing experience(BG)

My wife is really laid back most of the time. And, in this case, as in most others she is right in that when I do get home from work, I need to spend my time with her and my kids rather than updating my log and/or viewing/posting in other logs, so my time on here will probably suffer a bit; but, I'll try to make the most of it. Life is all about priorities and learning to prioritize.

Updated pics to follow shortly.

[jakezking]

I've had a few changes in my garden. First, most of my plants are now in ground rather than in buckets. Having them sitting out in the open was not really working for me, as I've had too much company of late. Prying eyes lead to questions, leading to lies - and, I don't like lying.

All of the remaining plants in the first batch are now in the ground near each other.

Pic 1 = Old School - really a beautiful plant;
Pic 2 = Colombian Red Haze - she's a very slow grower; and,
Pic 3 = Bubblelicious - appears male, but not fully developed yet.

All of the in-ground plants have gotten a full dose of Shultz 10-15-10 and Superthrive. They really seem to be enjoying the soil and nutes, as they have really taken off lately. Even the CRH seems to be growing much faster than she had in the bucket.

I hope you like the pics; they aren't the best. I hope to have better pics toward the end of the week.

[jakezking]

Alright, so I basically combined my 2nd and 3rd Batches, as they were only 9 days apart. Also, I think I only have 2 plants left from my 3rd batch, having given away 1 NL, 1 LS; I also gave away 2 SSH. I needed to thin the herd!

All plants, with the exception of the Sour Creams, have made it into the ground.

Pic 1 = Lemon Skunk;
Pic 2 = NL - lost a leaf somehow; now is a bit lopsided (3rd Batch plant);
Pic 3 = NL - has really shot up;
Pic 4 = Sour Cream; and,
Pic 5 = 2nd Sour Cream.

I also still have a SSH that is a major runt, but I couldn't bring myself to pull it. And, I have 1 additional LS, but I forgot to take a picture of it - it's pretty well hidden.

Like I said above, these pictures are not the greatest, so I hope to have better pictures later. I was surprised I haven't updated the pictures in 9 days. I'm really getting behind.

Y'all be good out there!

[headshake]

everything is coming along jakez. you still have quite a flock. hope the slow pokes come around!


-shake

[lunarose]

Jake, In my day it was Lay's "Bet you can't eat just one"(G) I'm lucky in that while my husband plays on his boat and tinkers in the garage I can fuss over my 'hobby'. I agree the Bubblelicious does look to be male. They are all looking good.

[McToker]

Hey Jake, what kind of climate are you growing in?

I've been reading up on outdoor grows, particularly as it relates to the hot & arid climate I live in.

[jakezking]

everything is coming along jakez. you still have quite a flock. hope the slow pokes come around!


-shake

It will really be interesting to see how all of these turn out, as well as keeping up with those that found new homes. I've really tried to just check on them every few days, so I really notice the growth changes. They really have taken off since they made it into the ground; in fact, they're basically worry free now, with the exception of heavy rains knocking on them a bit more. Thanks for stopping in, Shake!




Jake, In my day it was Lay's "Bet you can't eat just one"(G) I'm lucky in that while my husband plays on his boat and tinkers in the garage I can fuss over my 'hobby'. I agree the Bubblelicious does look to be male. They are all looking good.

It's really nice having such a fun hobby. I'm glad to hear your husband has his own hobbies to give him something cool to do while you are occupied. What does he think about your hobby? Or, is he tinkering around so much because he's enjoying the results of your hobby? Thanks for the input and kind words, luna!




Hey Jake, what kind of climate are you growing in?

I've been reading up on outdoor grows, particularly as it relates to the hot & arid climate I live in.

McT, I was just in your log, and almost mentioned my climate in response to one of your last posts. It's exceptionally hot and humid where I am. I'm not sure of how arid your location is, but I would guess as long as your plants are started/become adapted to the outdoors, they should become acclimated enough to survive. I agree with your comments, you should find a strain that grows well in your region. As hot and humid as it is here, the 3 - now 7 - strains that I have grown/am growing seem to be doing just fine, and I didn't bother to check into each strain's genetics.

Good luck to you should you venture outside, my friend!

[McToker]

Thanks for the response Jake. By arid, I mean 25 to 40% humidity until the monsoon season in August and September when the humidity will climb significantly higher with temps still hovering around 105 to 110 degrees.

[jakezking]

Dang - now that's hot, McT! When I said it's hot here, the highs are normally in the upper 90's to low 100's with humidity variable around 60%. With your humidity being a bit lower with a bit higher temperatures, it's probably about the same effect? You can always try a test plant outdoors to see how it works for you. If your soil isn't great, you can certainly grow in a container as I've done - I'd imagine it should work out fine for you.

[McToker]

Actually, we're planning to put the plants that won't fit in the tent during flowering outdoors and leave them in their hempy buckets. Hopefully we'll hve at least one female and a male to put outdoors and get some seed stock.

[lunarose]

Jake, DH is happy that I have something now that works and has gotten me back to my old self. He doesn't partake, never has and has no interest but he helps with the heavy lifting on my grows.

McToker, Where I am during the summer our humidity is below 20% and our high temps typically hit up to 114. As long as I water daily, provide some shade, and make sure the plants are at least 2 months old before the heat hits they do fine.

[McToker]

Sounds like we are definitely in similar environment lunarose. Any plants we move outdoors will be at least 2 months old. We're going to build a shade cloth area for them that will cut down the sunlight/heat during the later afternoon. Thanks for the advice.

[killa12345]

what up jake.....the plants are looking great...i love watching outdoor cannabis soooo much....mother nature is the bomb....one suggestion brotha....drop the lowes nutes and pick up a nute line or make some tea...it think you plants will highly benefit from it.....also....you might wanna look into a product called Zeba for outdoor plants....trust me...i use this sh*t a lot at work and its amazing....cuts down on water by 40%....i also use a product called hydretain and ecocentric....these products werent made for cannabis.....but i know zeba, and hydretain makes a product for agriculture approved by the usda....i dont know about the other one....do some research or ill ask....keep it up brotha...loving the show!

[bluntpasser]

This is the first outdoor grow i have seen and i am very impressed. Those fan leaves look mighty healthy and large. Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

[BeFree]

Always something great to look at and also something interesting to read every time I stop by.:jointsmile:

Keep it up jake. Elvis is sending the good vibes towards the bunches o' beans, pretty sure. :jointsmile:

Keep that :greenthumb: green.


be

[jakezking]

what up jake.....the plants are looking great...i love watching outdoor cannabis soooo much....mother nature is the bomb....one suggestion brotha....drop the lowes nutes and pick up a nute line or make some tea...it think you plants will highly benefit from it.....also....you might wanna look into a product called Zeba for outdoor plants....trust me...i use this sh*t a lot at work and its amazing....cuts down on water by 40%....i also use a product called hydretain and ecocentric....these products werent made for cannabis.....but i know zeba, and hydretain makes a product for agriculture approved by the usda....i dont know about the other one....do some research or ill ask....keep it up brotha...loving the show!

killa, maybe one day when I get a new job I'll be able to afford the nutes and water retention. I have been taking my vitamins and drinking a lot of water though. I hope all's been well with you, my friend. I need to stop by your log to see all of that incredible purple - that shit is insane!




This is the first outdoor grow i have seen and i am very impressed. Those fan leaves look mighty healthy and large. Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

bp, I appreciate you stopping by to check on this small outdoor grow. It's promising, and I hope it turns out okay.





Always something great to look at and also something interesting to read every time I stop by.:jointsmile:

Keep it up jake. Elvis is sending the good vibes towards the bunches o' beans, pretty sure. :jointsmile:

Keep that :greenthumb: green.


be

Be, it's good to see you, and I appreciate the words. I think the good vibes did some good on the plants - I didn't realize how much they had grown until I just checked in on this log. I'll try to help the pictures jive. Be good out there!

[jakezking]

You may remember the First Batch - the remaining plants are Old School, Colombian Red Haze, and Bubblelicious. I may have jumped the gun when I thought the Bubblelicious was male. Not one has shown any conclusive male parts. They did begin to show some serious pest damage, which had to have been a wayward caterpillar - Who Are You?

We'll catch up on some others in the next reply.

First 2 Pics = Old School
3rd Pic = Colombian Red Haze
4th & 5th Pics = Bubblelicious

[jakezking]

We have a couple of really sweet lookin' plants here - the Sour Cream are some real stars. I'm sure a few of the others would have turned out really well too - namely the NL and Lemon Skunk - if they had been able to remain in containers. But, I only had a limited space on deck. I do have a NL recouperating, and the Lemons are only about 1/2 way behind, so they should still lend some help this Fall.

Pics 1 through 4 = Sour Creams 1 & 2
Pic 5 = The representative Lemon Skunk (the other looks similar even though it is actually a 3rd Rounder)

Not making the show are the stragglers - Super Silver Haze and NL (3rd Rounder). The SSH is really lagging behind (due to a rough start and a less than perfect grow space), and the NL is rehabilitating (I just forgot to take a picture of her).

I hope all has been well with each of you.

[headshake]

things are really coming along nicely jake!

as far as the nutes, you should be able to pick up some cheap worm castings or bat guano, probably even at lowes or the depot that will make some good tea for your ladies. just a thought.

do you get all of your strains confused? i mean, i have 2 dogs, 3 cats and many other animals. so i'll call em the wrong name etc! lol.


-shake

[lunarose]

Jake, They are looking pretty good, better then mine which are stretching like crazy as if I can get them closer to the sun. It will be interesting to see the differences in size between your container plants and in ground. What's your soil like? Ours suck.

[McDanger]

Hey Jake, lookin good man. I don't know why I haven't seen your log till now, but I'm on board. Been mostly lurkin. I'm in the same boat as you, I now have my 3rd batch germin starting today. I need a new camera to start a log on em, mine took a shit on me again.

[McToker]

Looking good Jake.

We just moved a male Blue Apollo outdoors. He'll stay in his hempy bucket though. Temps here will get back up to normal (107 F) in a few days. Don't know how he'll handle the heat.

[killa12345]

Looking good Jake.

We just moved a male Blue Apollo outdoors. He'll stay in his hempy bucket though. Temps here will get back up to normal (107 F) in a few days. Don't know how he'll handle the heat.


Nice plants jake.....but i cant wait to see a hempy outside mctoker.....i personally think the unpredictable outdoor conditions are gonna mess things up but wow id be really surprised if it worked! Good luck!

Back to Jake....both batches look great....hope you find a new job soon bro....the economy is tough out there....hopefully some good karma will come your way.....see ya soon bro....one more thing....i think a few companies will send you a sample pack of nutes if ya call them....im almost sure AN, GH, and roots organics will send ya sample.....bro you gotta get resourcful in these bad times! Holla at ya boy sometime! EDIT: ADD HUMBOLT NUTES to that list!

Killa

[jakezking]

things are really coming along nicely jake!

as far as the nutes, you should be able to pick up some cheap worm castings or bat guano, probably even at lowes or the depot that will make some good tea for your ladies. just a thought.

do you get all of your strains confused? i mean, i have 2 dogs, 3 cats and many other animals. so i'll call em the wrong name etc! lol.


-shake

Hot Dang! It's always a pleasure to read your smiling words, my friend! It's funny you mention being able to keep everything separate. It's easy for me to keep my strains separate, but I don't know how in the heck some folks are able to do so - some have WAY more than I do. I'm envious I can't grow as many plants as some folks, but we all have our constraints. I am happy I'm able to grow some to keep myself in plenty o' bud. And, of course friends never leave mi casa without some free bud - unfortunately I can't tell anyone from where it came.

Sorry to ramble, but it's getting late; and, I've had a few.... I hope all's well with you and yours! You've always got some seriously good vibes - I hope they find their way back to you 2 fold.




Jake, They are looking pretty good, better then mine which are stretching like crazy as if I can get them closer to the sun. It will be interesting to see the differences in size between your container plants and in ground. What's your soil like? Ours suck.

luna, it's always a pleasure to read your words. I've seen some of your pics - there's no way my plants look better than yours. The grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence. That SourBubble of yours that did not auto = incredible! Soil here is not the best, but with a little help it gets by. The big difference in my plants is sunshine. Some of the in-grounders have much better sun, and they're getting to be pretty dang bushy - you'll see some pics in a bit. And, I'm rehabilitating a few of the stragglers; notice the NL which recovered nicely in container until recently making it back to a better in-ground spot. Dang, I can ramble like a sumgun after a few.... I can't wait to catch up with your ladies. My best to you and yours!




Hey Jake, lookin good man. I don't know why I haven't seen your log till now, but I'm on board. Been mostly lurkin. I'm in the same boat as you, I now have my 3rd batch germin starting today. I need a new camera to start a log on em, mine took a shit on me again.

McDanger! It's been awhile, and I hope everything's been good out your way. I'm gonna have to catch up with what you've got goin' on. I completely understand the comings and goings - sometimes it's tough to find time for perusing this incredible board. Be good out there, my friend!




Looking good Jake.

We just moved a male Blue Apollo outdoors. He'll stay in his hempy bucket though. Temps here will get back up to normal (107 F) in a few days. Don't know how he'll handle the heat.

McT, I'll definitely have to check in to see how that BA is handling the outdoor hempy with some insane heat! That sounds like it should be an episode on the weed channel. Tune in next week when you'll find out if Mc'T's Blue Apollo male beat down the 107 degree heat. There's no doubt your indoor ladies are doing awesome. I know all of you have been doing good since you got your home to yourselves.




Nice plants jake.....but i cant wait to see a hempy outside mctoker.....i personally think the unpredictable outdoor conditions are gonna mess things up but wow id be really surprised if it worked! Good luck!

Back to Jake....both batches look great....hope you find a new job soon bro....the economy is tough out there....hopefully some good karma will come your way.....see ya soon bro....one more thing....i think a few companies will send you a sample pack of nutes if ya call them....im almost sure AN, GH, and roots organics will send ya sample.....bro you gotta get resourcful in these bad times! Holla at ya boy sometime! EDIT: ADD HUMBOLT NUTES to that list!

Killa

killa12345! It'll be like I had McT's BA outdoor adventure on Tivo what with my extended absence. I'm goin' there from here before I update so I can see what I hope to be a happy beginning for the BA outdoors! Thanks to you I'm trying some of those free samples (only pay shipping). Flippin' awesome tip from you, my friend! ROCK! I'm looking forward to seeing what they'll do.

Thanks for the well wishes too - we all have some ups and downs, which is fine as long as we only remember the ups. Sometimes when money gets tighter, families become closer which is a sweet silver lining. Killa, you're a good dude - it's always good to catch up with you. I hope all's well with y'all.

[Dutch Pimp]

And, of course friends never leave mi casa without some free bud - unfortunately I can't tell anyone from where it came.



..'a friend with weed...is a friend, indeed'....:rastabanna:

[jakezking]

Alrighty then... this is going to take some serious concentration. The Old School, Colombian Red Haze, and Bubblelicious are the remaining 1st Batchers. They're on Day 87 of Veg; they're big but not that big since they don't get that much direct sunlight.

They've been getting some Schultz 10-15-10 with Superthrive and recently some 5-1-1 fish emulsion, so they're getting some pretty good Nitrogen. I'm going to lay off the Schultz and feed the lower N as the CRH and the BBL have not really shown sex - they're still just popping new leaf sets rather than any sex parts. The OS showed female within the past week or so.

Enough with the rambling on on to the pictures:

Pic 1 shows the OS
Pic 2 is an apical of the OS on the right with rehabilitated 2nd Batch NL left
Pic 3 shows side by side of the OS and NL
Pics 4 & 5 show the CRH really stretching for the Sun

Next up will be the Sour Cream and Lemon Skunk - I ran out of disc space before I could get to the SSH which is finally starting to grow - another bad location.

[jakezking]

Yeah, I almost forgot about the Bubblelicious. It would be a beast if it had not been ravaged by a/some caterpillars. The back branches are pretty dang bare - nodes are tightening.

Pics 1-4 show the BBL is various sweltering poses
Pic 5 shows 1 of the possible culprits of BBL's involuntary thinness - that dang caterpillar was locked on to that tomato plant even after having munched about 1/2 of it down.

[jakezking]

The Sour Cream is thriving under they're veritable babying. They've been my primary focus since I'm salivating for the Sour Diesel x G13 Haze buds - neither have showed but are starting to throw some seriously tight nodes readying themselves for some serious action 1 way or the other.

Pics 1-5 are focused on the left and right SC; level shots, apical shots, macro shots, and side by side view. They needed some extra photos.

Last but not least will be the NL and LS.

[jakezking]

The NL which showed male a short time ago has been replanted beside the OS, CRH, and BBL. Any of those crosses would be nice, especially since all 4 plants are really good-lookin' (and, hopin' the CRH and BBL are female!). At the very least, I'll be happy to carry on the OS (1 bean left) in an NL cross. Back to the NL already in progress - he really came back from having some attention in a container; it looks like he's been on steroids, but he just enjoyed some Schultz 10-15-10 and Superthrive - both according to the outdoor container directions.

1 Lemon Skunk is still in the ground, and I just replanted the 2nd and smaller of the 2 in a container to give her some special attention. She's gotten some soil additive with mycorrhizae which should be interesting; she'll need stronger root development since she hadn't stretched her legs much while she was in ground. She's also getting some fish emulsion 5-1-1. I'm banking on her being a she since she is feminized (some serious female references hoping that if you believe in it it will be).

The other LS is still dwarfed due to bad spot around the SSH which is suffering about the same fate. We can't all have a day in the Sun. I'll try hard to circulate them back to container and a better location.

Pics 1-2 show the NL; he's a stocky lil' dude
Pics 3 and 4 show the newly re-potted LS
Pic 5 shows the LS still in ground

I'll try to make sure the SSH makes it into the next round of pics. I think it will have to make it back to a container for better care. I still have a few SSH beans though, so unfortunately it may not get as much care this season.

That should wrap 'er up. I hope all of y'all are doing and being good out there!

[jakezking]

..'a friend with weed...is a friend, indeed'....:rastabanna:

DP, I couldn't have come up with a better quote. I'm glad to be a pothead, because we are a generous and loving people. I need to catch up with you, my friend to see how it is with you. I hope you're doing and feeling good!

[Dutch Pimp]

doing real good at the moment...'twilight zone'....:lol5:

[jakezking]

doing real good at the moment...'twilight zone'....:lol5:

30 Rock is a pretty dang good show, and there's 1 comment that Tina Fey often makes (as uttered by her young daughter) that for some reason makes me laugh - "I want to go to there!" But, dang if it isn't the perfect comment to make to your reply. What you been smokin', amigo?

I'm lookin' forward to some nice variety for a change - the Summer has brought me close to the end of last season's yield.

[Dutch Pimp]

What you been smokin', amigo?



some white widow from a friend...:thumbsup:...harvested a little early?...but, the price was right...free....except for side bets...whenever, I get something for free?...I usually pay for it in advance

[jakezking]

I had no doubt that you pay it forward, my friend! WW is a wicked woman whose presence I have not yet shared. But, oh yes - 1 day she will be mine, if only for a brief time. I'm leavin' it with you, DP - I hope you have a great night and days to come.

[bickeybammer]

jake im really pulling for your super silver haze its one of my favorites!!! hope everything comes through:hippy:

[lunarose]

Jake, Oh those tomato caterpillar are major PITAS! At least they are easy to kill. A trick I do to prep soil where I might plant in the ground is after I chop I take the soil from the pots and dump them in the area and then let nature do its thing over the winter and come spring any nutes left over in the soil has washed into the ground. I just harvested some of my AF's and have another load on the clothes line.

[jakezking]

jake im really pulling for your super silver haze its one of my favorites!!! hope everything comes through:hippy:

bickey, thanks for stopping by - the SSH is a sweet smoke; unfortunately, mine got the shaft when it came to "product placement." It doesn't get much sunshine, but my locations are pretty limited. My Bubblelicious is definitely male, so I'll probably cut it, and will most likely throw the SSH in its spot, so your rooting for the underdog may help her out! I'll throw up some pics of the SSH in a second. Be good out there!




Jake, Oh those tomato caterpillar are major PITAS! At least they are easy to kill. A trick I do to prep soil where I might plant in the ground is after I chop I take the soil from the pots and dump them in the area and then let nature do its thing over the winter and come spring any nutes left over in the soil has washed into the ground. I just harvested some of my AF's and have another load on the clothes line.

luna, you are right from top to bottom - that nasty lil' caterpillar tried to get at me with his/her choppers and stinger (probably all for show, but I wasn't in the mood to get stung/bitten by yet another insect; if there is a stinging insect anywhere around, most likely it's going to nail me!), but it was such an interesting lil' dude that I put it on a sapling tree that's sprung up. I've started doing pretty much the same thing with used soil - I have a nice dumpin' ground where I put it along with any veggies that don't make it. I'll start using it to mix into the native soil to help out some; I have just been using my potting mix straight in the hole; my bad locations are primarily lacking in sunlight. I was happy to see your recent harvests! Take good care out there, and stay high!

[jakezking]

SSH is really making a pretty strong comeback from the Neem Oil fiasco that dang near killed it early in its vegetative stage. Despite the lack of sufficient sunlight, it's really beginning to reach for the sky. It will probably be getting a better location in the next week or so, when I finally chop my Bubblelicious male who recently confirmed early suspicions.

Good news - both Sour Cream are ladies!

So, we now have:

NL - male
Old School - BBW (big beautiful woman)
Colombian Red Haze (looks to be female)
Sour Cream (2) (both female)
Lemon Skunk (2) (feminized, so should be fems)
SSH (undetermined)

The NL is in-ground close to the OS and CRH (and, probably where I will put the SSH), so I'm looking forward to some nice beans. My sinsemilla will come from the SCs!

Y'all be good out there!

[greenatik]

awesome jake! the NL backcrossed with the SSH is going to be insane. guaranteed huge yields. Congrats on the females!! :thumbsup:

[killa12345]

smoking on some SSH right now....yeahy yeah....doesnt get much better than this.....my friend loves the purple so much....he give me 2 for 1 on the SSH for purple......trust me i cant believe him either...but SSH and Black haze are usually around $225 a zip round here! gotta love the south!

[greenatik]

killa! same thing happened here. traded 6 grams of urkle for an eigth of SSH. SSH is the bomb. although, i must admit, trainwreck has sure given it a run for its money :D

[McToker]

That's shaping up to be quite the herb garden there Jake.

Buena suerte mi amigo.:thumbsup:

[bluntpasser]

great work jake...everything is looking supreme..i really like the selection of seeds as well.

[Shovelhandle]

very good garden, Elvis. 'heck of a job'

I just pulled SSH and got some SSH x Blueberry beans (had 21, found 14 more). Like you, I have a bubblegum male but I'll be pollinating a blueberry and two Z10 females with it.

Good Luck, Big Buck!

[jakezking]

awesome jake! the NL backcrossed with the SSH is going to be insane. guaranteed huge yields. Congrats on the females!! :thumbsup:

The SSH was snapped at its base by some roving paws, so unfortunately there will be no NL x SSH beans for me. SSH was a definite fem too - what a shame. But, I do love my pups and they did not mean any harm. Such is life - we win some and we lose some so that our victories are all the more enjoyable. Thanks for stopping in, greenatik - it's always a pleasure to see you. I apologize for my long absence, and I hope all's been and will continue to be well with you and yours, my friend!




smoking on some SSH right now....yeahy yeah....doesnt get much better than this.....my friend loves the purple so much....he give me 2 for 1 on the SSH for purple......trust me i cant believe him either...but SSH and Black haze are usually around $225 a zip round here! gotta love the south!

Yeah, killa - don't rub it in so much; as you read above my SSH is gone but not forgotten. I've still got a few SSH beans, so if and when I develop an indoor system, they will get a new whorl. If no indoor, then they'll spring to life in Spring, 2010. Your zip prices are mo betta than here; I'd be lookin' at $480 per zip - INSANE! See why I grow now, eh? I've got to get back up to speed with you, my friend - I miss all of incredible plant pictures and your generosity. Be good over there!




That's shaping up to be quite the herb garden there Jake.

Buena suerte mi amigo.:thumbsup:

McT! Man, as with greenatik and killa, I've gotta catch up with you, my friend! It's been way too long since last I really browsed this great board; I didn't realize how much I missed it until searching Google led me back here. This board is truly filled with incredible knowledge and experiences! I hope you have been having a great experience in your latest grow!




great work jake...everything is looking supreme..i really like the selection of seeds as well.

Thanks for the compliments, blunt - I started out with a bunch o' beans for sure, but they've been whittled down. I've recently added a few interesting hybrids - HTC Sunshine #2 (due to its Deep Chunk genes), SSH x WW, and KaliMist x Romulan. They're only in their first week of veg, so will only enjoy about 1 month before hitting flower. I'm interested to see how well they perform. I started a grow late last year, but this year I've started these beans even later. I think they'll make it; last year my Colombian Red Haze didn't finish until around Christmas, but she made it just fine!




very good garden, Elvis. 'heck of a job'

I just pulled SSH and got some SSH x Blueberry beans (had 21, found 14 more). Like you, I have a bubblegum male but I'll be pollinating a blueberry and two Z10 females with it.

Good Luck, Big Buck!

Shov, you've always got an incredible garden, so I appreciate your stoppin' by to check on my lil' spot. I need to check out your SSH - sadly mine didn't make it, and she was making such a sweet recovery. SSH x Blueberry? Dude, that should be a very sweet mix! I've heard about your Z10 before, but you'll have to fill me in on its genetics - adding some Bubblegum to the mix sounds pretty darn interesting! May the sun continue to shine on you and your garden, my friend!


I'll add a few new pics in the next post to bring everyone up to speed a bit on the remaining plants in my garden. Lemon Skunks, Sour Cream, Old School, and Colombian Red Haze. My new starters (Sunshine #2, WW x SSH, and KaliMist x Romulan) are all too small at this point to really show, but I'll probably throw a pic or 2 in just for giggles.

I hope all's well with everyone!

[jakezking]

It's been awhile since I updated - no real excuse there. I did have to break down and buy a new camera, so you'll have to bear with me while I learn to use this darn thing; too many features - I may have to get my son to show me how to use it! Am I that old now? Some days I sure feel like it.

Here's a bit of eye candy for everyone. The ladies began flowering a lil' over 1 week ago, so there should be some fun stuff to see in another week or so. For now, you'll have to use a lil' imagination.

1st Pic = Lemon Skunk rescued first - has made a SWEET recovery - sunshine will truly work wonders, won't it?

2d Pic = Sour Cream with Sunshine #2 in Silo cup beside for comparison reference; I fugged up a bit and tried to bend LST her when she was a lil' too dry, so her stems split a bit; we'll see if a lil' smoker engineering will get the job done to keep those branches alive and kickin'.

3rd Pic = Lemon Skunk rescued from bad spot about 2 weeks ago; she's really come a long way, and should look like LS1 in another week.

4th Pic = Old School; I grew this strain out last year from some bagseed that was spot on resembling some of the best stuff I used to smoke in high school (thus it's name). I'll post a pic or 2 of her swollen calyxes, pregnant with some sweet NL pollen.

5th Pic = Colombian Red Haze, butchered in 1/2 to keep her from growing taller than fence; she's still around 3 1/2 feet, but now her branches will be sturdy enough to support her buds - hopefully. She's got a ton of new growth already since this pic was taken.

[jakezking]

Pic 1 shows OS' swollen calyxes. I can't wait to try the OS x NL.
Pic 2 shows beginning buds on LS1.
Pic 3 shows the newbies - Sunshine #2 is in the Silo cup; from left to right are KaliMist x Romulan and WW x SSH.

As for the fates of the beans not listed above - The Bubblelicious I grew out were male, and I threw them out in favor of the NL male. The PPP went to a friend along with the SSH. I kept 1 SSH, but as you read above, my pups got the better of her.

Never to fear though, I have more beans on the way - I really do need to go indoor, so I can grow year 'round. I think the last batch o' beans that are shown in Pic 3 will be my last batch this year.

Good luck to everyone out there, and continued joy and success in your own grows!

[Shovelhandle]

Man, you have more going on that ten growers, Elvis. I know I have a difficult time doing taste tests and strain reviews of my herb. You must be overwhelmed. I for go serious smoke reports until the herb is properly cured, which seems to continue for a couple of months. By that time I'm looking forward to a new harvest and new strain tastes. Have you considered doing a thread of just your strain reviews sometime?

Anyhow, keep up the fine gardening. :jointsmile:

[lunarose]

Jake, So how many plants did you end up with this grow? I always have trouble calculating how many plants I need to grow each grow to maintain a steady supply. I'm glad to see you have some seedlings starting so late in the year when I harvested the sour bubble which I did a seed run with dropped a few beans that germ'd themselves so I have 8 new surprise seedlings. When does your lat drop to the 12/12? I've got to the last of Sept so hopefully they have enough veg time to produce something. I love growing year around myself I can't wait to start my inside autos next month.

[jakezking]

Man, you have more going on that ten growers, Elvis. I know I have a difficult time doing taste tests and strain reviews of my herb. You must be overwhelmed. I for go serious smoke reports until the herb is properly cured, which seems to continue for a couple of months. By that time I'm looking forward to a new harvest and new strain tastes. Have you considered doing a thread of just your strain reviews sometime?

Anyhow, keep up the fine gardening. :jointsmile:

Shov, I have the same feeling when I jump into someone else's thread - how in the heck do they keep up with all of these strains? Mine really aren't too bad to keep up with. I start them out in labeled Silo cups, and when I first transplant them I keep the strains together until I can distinguish them. Right now I really only have Lemon Skunk and Sour Cream going. Back in a nature area I have Colombian Red Haze and Old School. All of these are visually distinctive, and I could tell the Lemon Skunk apart from the others just by their excessive odor - really skunky even now when they've only been flowering for about 2 weeks.

As for strain reviews - that's a really good idea! I don't know that I have a very detailed sense of smell and/or taste, but I could give some general impressions and overall grow report. But, at this point I only have experience with about 5 strains - some of the others either didn't make it or were gifted. I do need to branch out a bit from just a grow log.

My friend, it's always a pleasure to see you around. I hope all is well and easy with you and yours!




Jake, So how many plants did you end up with this grow? I always have trouble calculating how many plants I need to grow each grow to maintain a steady supply. I'm glad to see you have some seedlings starting so late in the year when I harvested the sour bubble which I did a seed run with dropped a few beans that germ'd themselves so I have 8 new surprise seedlings. When does your lat drop to the 12/12? I've got to the last of Sept so hopefully they have enough veg time to produce something. I love growing year around myself I can't wait to start my inside autos next month.

Luna, it's been too long. I see you online at ic from time to time - I should drop you a pm. It looks like I'll wind up with 1 Colombian Red Haze, 1 Old School (seeded by NL), 2 Lemon Skunk, 1 Sour Cream and my newbies (3 SSH x WW, 1 Sunshine #2, and 2 Kali Mist x Romulan). We'll see how the newbies do. The Sunshine #2 and 1 each of SSH x WW and KM x Romulan are really growing well, so I hope to have even a 1/4 oz from each. 12/12 I think is the same all over - around September 23rd - from what I remember. And, we keep decent light here dropping to around 9 hours of daylight in late December - temperature is pretty moderate until January/February.

I hope to have enough to make it through the year. I've really been contemplating an indoor grow cab - seems like I wanted one really badly last year about this time, considering outdoor is coming to an end. Indoor sure would be interesting.

Take good care out there, my friend! I hope all is well with you and your family!

[Dutch Pimp]

I've really been contemplating an indoor grow cab - seems like I wanted one really badly last year about this time, considering outdoor is coming to an end. Indoor sure would be interesting.


have you petitioned for permission, yet ?...jake....:D

[jakezking]

have you petitioned for permission, yet ?...jake....:D

LMMFAO! My petition has been submitted, and I've been granted leave to solicit bids - I think. I was not shot down completely, except on the location of the indoor. It will have to be located in the attic, which in all actuality would be easier with the exception of me climbing up there every dang day!

My bro and I, more so my bro than I, should be able to knock it out, but he will have the cost knowledge. Depending on our finances and my bro's availability, I could have something in place in a couple of months, which depending on when my outdoor strains finish up could be perfect timing.

DP, you really had me laughing on this one!

[greenatik]

jake if you automate your waterings for the indoors you won't have to climb up there every day ! I just hooked mine all up and WOW was it easy. but you'd have to haul up a lot of water once a week as well..

nice outdoors buddy, they are sure soakin up those sun lumens. the crosses sure sound interesting as well! cant wait to go see my outdoor babies its been almost 2 months. I hope somethin is still there :D

[lunarose]

Jake, Yeah summers are always so busy things are finally slowing down again. I have been stressing on the indoor growroom too but the place inside that I could build one would be in a closet and I never liked that idea. So I built a kind of grow room/greenhouse on our deck. Since our winters are really pretty mild I think we may get 10 day's worth of below freezing and they are well spaced out the cfls should keep it warm enough and if not I can use a small ceramic heater so I am all set to grow year round! I am going to grow a/fs only during the winter. The automatic watering system sounds cool but if it ever leaks there will be hell to pay.

[bombdiggity]

JAKE!

I was reading through my first grow log (on my 4th now) and saw a really funny post that you authored.


"I envy you the time you will spend using your mason jars full of incredibud as goggles while you hopelessly try to focus on your TV after becoming interested in the monkey sounds from the Discovery Channel."

I think now the same applies to you. I envy you sir, and Lemon Skunk is great I had that last grow. Does it smell like pinesol for you?