heres some pics from my 100% led experiment

[beef74]

3oz from 7 just rooted clones- I didnt pack the grow tent(2x2) or I surely would have ended up with at least double that.I used 220w total-illuminator ufo-660nm bulbs- and a couple 45w panels.I'll be starting a thread showing 2 led tents-2x2- with 700 watts led between them. The clones are vegging right now.

[oldmac]

3oz from 7 just rooted clones- I didnt pack the grow tent(2x2) or I surely would have ended up with at least double that.I used 220w total-illuminator ufo-660nm bulbs- and a couple 45w panels.I'll be starting a thread showing 2 led tents-2x2- with 700 watts led between them. The clones are vegging right now.

Hey Beef74,

You have a very interesting combination of LED's there. I'd loved to hear from you how you wound up choosing them.

Good luck and I look forward to your thread abt 700w of LED's.

Here's a pic of 660watts of LED (going head to head with 1000HPS)
covering about 4'x4'.

[Mr. Clandestine]

That looks awesome! (The plants and the setup.) :thumbsup:

It's pretty obvious to me that LED's are making big advancements for horticultural purposes, but I'm still probably more intrigued just by the way they look than the way they grow. Again, it's obvious that they work well, but they just look so damn cool! If my setup were like that I'd probably end up sitting around the growroom all day, stoned completely out of my mind, admiring all the pretty colors... :jointsmile:

...until totally losing touch with my environment (and reality), and thinking I've been abducted. :abduct:

[Cannaluv]

That looks awesome! (The plants and the setup.) :thumbsup:

It's pretty obvious to me that LED's are making big advancements for horticultural purposes, but I'm still probably more intrigued just by the way they look than the way they grow. Again, it's obvious that they work well, but they just look so damn cool! If my setup were like that I'd probably end up sitting around the growroom all day, stoned completely out of my mind, admiring all the pretty colors... :jointsmile:

...until totally losing touch with my environment (and reality), and thinking I've been abducted. :abduct:

hahaha...I was just thinking the same exact thing

[MerryPrankstr]

So far the TI Probloom seems the best bang for the buck in regards to results IMHO. The blend of wavelength has my two girls blooming as quickly and vigoursously as my HPS setup did.

Good luck with your grow!

Merry

[beef74]

Hey Beef74,

You have a very interesting combination of LED's there. I'd loved to hear from you how you wound up choosing them.

Good luck and I look forward to your thread abt 700w of LED's.

Here's a pic of 660watts of LED (going head to head with 1000HPS)
covering about 4'x4'. thank you, I pretty much waited until the 2nd gen/660 nm red boom hit.I keep it red in the flowering tent-660nm-the first go had alot more blue- all that gear has shifted to the veg tent.The ufo was the tri-band illuminator- the bulbs were set into the canopy to basically blast as much red in there as possible-the cree white fixtures were added at week 3 of flower-things took off then.I've expanded my white led arsenal since.I think that the mix of warm and cool white led complete the spectrum nicely. Now in my veg tent I have 2 UFO's 2 45w r/b glow panels 3-13w r/b fixtures 1-15w growspot- in the pics you'll notice that the veg tent is a purplish blue- the flower tent is now all led the 2 plants in the pics were under an hps/led array- the hps has now been taken out of the equation-I'm getting another illuminator-90w tomorrow-and I now believe I have enough power to attain my desired results.So as of tomorrow the flower tent will have-3 ufo's(2 illuminators-1-660nm all red ufo) 1 50w red flower panel- 2 10w red bulbs 4-cree white 12w fixtures- 3 5w red 660nm fixtures.

[beef74]

pics of the 2 tents

[beef74]

So far the TI Probloom seems the best bang for the buck in regards to results IMHO. The blend of wavelength has my two girls blooming as quickly and vigoursously as my HPS setup did.

Good luck with your grow!

Merrythanx man, I've been eyeing up different units and I've had my eye on the probloom.

[beef74]

pic of the veg tent from last nite.

[beef74]

this mornings hangover pics

[beef74]

and now the veg tent

[ForgetClassC]

Im pretty sure you got your lights from TheLAshop.com, but, just one question, how much did all that cost, cuz i know the panels are $40min and the ufo's are like $330min, and then i think the fog-lamp like ones are like $40 as well, Im thinking about LED grow room as well, Im just saving my money to get them, lol, buying stuff without a job is a bit of a task

[beef74]

Im pretty sure you got your lights from TheLAshop.com, but, just one question, how much did all that cost, cuz i know the panels are $40min and the ufo's are like $330min, and then i think the fog-lamp like ones are like $40 as well, Im thinking about LED grow room as well, Im just saving my money to get them, lol, buying stuff without a job is a bit of a task I hear ya man, I'm out on an acl tear right now and disability sux.But the new illuminator(I highly recommend, and can only verify the effectiveness of these units) 349US at prosource.com. IMHO these are the best for flowering.The orange seems to do the trick( flowers maturing in time) but I add white to the mix to that end.So that'll be 2 illuminators and an all red 660nm 90w ufo+ various fixtures.Alot of this is the fun factor for me.This is a very enjoyable way to grow.No more blaring hot yellow light, less worry about plants drying up on you.You just keep nutes at a baseline( a little more experimentation here) and so far no defs.I do add a 1/2 dose of Open Sesame 3 weeks into flowering.Other than that just sit back and watch.Pretty cool.And with 700w in a small room between 2 tents 75 degrees solid with no special ventilation.Thanx for stoppin by. peace

[beef74]

heres a cool pic

[VanGogh001]

Hey beef,

Just stopped by here today and just wanted to give you a thumbs up on the LED grow set up. Good growing man. Love the pics. Cheers!

[beef74]

Hey beef,

Just stopped by here today and just wanted to give you a thumbs up on the LED grow set up. Good growing man. Love the pics. Cheers! thanks man, there'll be more to come.

[ForgetClassC]

I hope you dont mind, but i got a couple questions, im trying to start a grow (i got a plant goin but only on a single tube) hes still veggin so im not worried right now, but my buds got some plants (not doin so hot) and im tryin to help him while i am growing. ok heres the planned set up:

-2 of the red/blue led panels
-2 14" t5-t8 UV florescents(have a t5 want a bigger one)

the box is 25"W x 21"H x 18"D covered with this stuff (http://208.62.119.11/reflectech/images/stories/radiant_barrier/astrofoil.jpg)

right now it is on its side and only had one plant in it, but im going to be bringing it to my buds house and once the plants start to get closer to flowering we are only going to keep like 3 or 4 and stand it up. how does this all sound to you?

[beef74]

I hope you dont mind, but i got a couple questions, im trying to start a grow (i got a plant goin but only on a single tube) hes still veggin so im not worried right now, but my buds got some plants (not doin so hot) and im tryin to help him while i am growing. ok heres the planned set up:

-2 of the red/blue led panels
-2 14" t5-t8 UV florescents(have a t5 want a bigger one)

the box is 25"W x 21"H x 18"D covered with this stuff (http://208.62.119.11/reflectech/images/stories/radiant_barrier/astrofoil.jpg)

right now it is on its side and only had one plant in it, but im going to be bringing it to my buds house and once the plants start to get closer to flowering we are only going to keep like 3 or 4 and stand it up. how does this all sound to you? are you taking the equiptment you mentioned with you? If so I'd scrap the panel idea-you'll be disappointed, 2 panels will cost the same as a 660nm red 437nm blue ufo on e-bay.You can get one for 200US or less.The t-5's will compliment this well- try to get a mult-spectrum color temp on the T 5's-5000k,.This should cover you spectrum wise.Do you have any plans to expand at your buddy's house?

[ForgetClassC]

if you go to TheLAShop.com - Tattoo Kit - Bicycle Motor - Massage Equipment - Gardening Equipment - Heat Press Machine - Photography Equipment - Aquarium Supplies - & Much More! (http://www.theLAshop.com) they have them for 40 bucks a panel, and at calnursey.com they got them for 30 bucks a pop. when we do get them im thinkin about putting the two of them on the top nest to eachother and just have the whole thing lit up, and then when we find our little girls, stand the box upright, place the panels diagonally in the top corners and maybe by that point i can get a ufo or a nice cfl fixture



**edit**

^^^^^ wow didnt know that link would add so much and also, i forgot one thing, we actually arent tryin to make it too much bigger than 3 or 4 plants, we have both grown acouple times, just cirmustances take them away, so we both set our goals to be able to have 1 bowl pack of our own shit at the end of the season, lol

[beef74]

if you go to TheLAShop.com - Tattoo Kit - Bicycle Motor - Massage Equipment - Gardening Equipment - Heat Press Machine - Photography Equipment - Aquarium Supplies - & Much More! (http://www.theLAshop.com) they have them for 40 bucks a panel, and at calnursey.com they got them for 30 bucks a pop. when we do get them im thinkin about putting the two of them on the top nest to eachother and just have the whole thing lit up, and then when we find our little girls, stand the box upright, place the panels diagonally in the top corners and maybe by that point i can get a ufo or a nice cfl fixture



**edit**

^^^^^ wow didnt know that link would add so much and also, i forgot one thing, we actually arent tryin to make it too much bigger than 3 or 4 plants, we have both grown acouple times, just cirmustances take them away, so we both set our goals to be able to have 1 bowl pack of our own shit at the end of the season, lol
sounds like a cool little covert op-yeah, that should work, but I'd still add a little fluoro-cfl-T-5, whichever you choose-not much, just enough to get some diffuse light in there- but you'll def need to upgrade once you get to your buddy's place.All in all sounds like fun.But you're gonna have to be willing to invest a little chunk of change in a top o the line ufo.I use, and the only one I can verify, the illuminator 349US.This is the closest to a stand alone ufo, in my opinion, that they have right now.And fcfl isnt a bad option-for like 100 bucks you can set up a kick ass cfl grow.I'd pick the illuminator-but thats just me.

[ForgetClassC]

haha yeah, ive been scroungin up money seein as im in college and dont got a job, but i think we are actually going to buy a cheap bathroom vanity light, with 3 sockets, buy 3 y dual adapters and through 6 daylight CFL in that bad boy, hopefully that should help them

[beef74]

haha yeah, ive been scroungin up money seein as im in college and dont got a job, but i think we are actually going to buy a cheap bathroom vanity light, with 3 sockets, buy 3 y dual adapters and through 6 daylight CFL in that bad boy, hopefully that should help them That should work fine.Cfls are a sure thing, my man.I've pulled quite a few nice harvests with some pure indicas and cfls. And thats the route I would go if cost were an issue.I mean, being in school with no job sucks.Been there.And this led thing gets pricy.Keep your eye on the tek, you'll see prices on the current tek drop as soon as 5-10-15w diode systems become more commercially available.Then you'll be able to pick up a top of the line ufo for like 50 bucks.Even the crap led products, and there are too many, are ridiculously expensive.But there is nothing wrong with cfl's, they do a great job.

[ForgetClassC]

awesome, well, we are going to homedepot today so ill post some pics in the forum so you can take a peak, thanks for the help again, lata

[beef74]

cool, I love homedepot always plotting my next project when I'm supposed to be looking at a grill with the missus, or picking out bathroom fixtures.And thats whats so awsome about cfl- versatility. I would def go 5000k or 6500k-mess around thats the fun part.We're not cash croppin here, just some good old boys trying to grow some dank in small spaces.I cant freakin wait til its legal.

[fluid69]

cool, I love homedepot always plotting my next project when I'm supposed to be looking at a grill with the missus, or picking out bathroom fixtures.And thats whats so awsome about cfl- versatility. I would def go 5000k or 6500k-mess around thats the fun part.We're not cash croppin here, just some good old boys trying to grow some dank in small spaces.I cant freakin wait til its legal.
amen to that beef74

[grey1223]

Very interesting and looks like fun. We'll know when the LED development has reached the level of hps when the commercial growers start using them. I think they have a ways to go though. But yours is the best example I've seen yet.

[beef74]

Very interesting and looks like fun. We'll know when the LED development has reached the level of hps when the commercial growers start using them. I think they have a ways to go though. But yours is the best example I've seen yet. thanx grey, but it will be a while before people start cash croppin- right now with your standard 1w diode units it's just not happening.Just for the little guy right now.But if your willing to put out the cash, you'll be rewarded with a cool,continuous yielding- clean- system. Heat was my biggest obstacle- now thats gone.No more 400 every 2 weeks for top grade herb.I'm happy with it.And I'm glad you caught on to the fun factor of it.Thats what it's all about.

[ForgetClassC]

that should be one of the ten commandments, thou shall growith pot if he so wants to smoke-ith it.


BTW this is what we got when we went there last time hopefully this tag works:

awesome, it did

[beef74]

good set=up with the bulbs. I would pack some more medium around the stems and gently tie down the stretchier plants-train em while they're young.And get those cfls to within a couple inches of the tops of the plants.This should thicken those stems up.Keep up the good work- your plants have a home now, make them happy in it.Good to see persistance, and motivation on your part- the keys to success. peace

[sneakyt33]

Hi Beef74,
So you recommend the U.F.O.s over the panels? Any particular reason?
I used to partake in the hobby with a 1000W HPS light. Heat and my electric bill were always concerns. I'm interested in getting started again, and I think LEDs would be the way to go. What do you think I would need to see similar results to a 1000W HPS?
Thanks!

[beef74]

Hi Beef74,
So you recommend the U.F.O.s over the panels? Any particular reason?
I used to partake in the hobby with a 1000W HPS light. Heat and my electric bill were always concerns. I'm interested in getting started again, and I think LEDs would be the way to go. What do you think I would need to see similar results to a 1000W HPS?
Thanks!right now the ufo's have the bridge lux 4th qtr cree diodes-an absolute must IMHO- and 1000 w of hps is a special thing, and at this point nothing could feasibly top it.You would have to drop a couple grand to even come close, not equal, to a 1000w of hps.Right now I'm starting a cfl/led thread-maybe, just maybe the combo will get us closer to those sweet hid results.

[ForgetClassC]

check out the progress beef, the link is in my sig.

[RackitMan]

Hi Beef74,
So you recommend the U.F.O.s over the panels? Any particular reason?


I have a 120 watt no-name light with the 1 watt Bridgelux LEDs and it appears very solid. (Too soon to give growing feedback.)

I picked up some of the 50 watt China panels with 0.5 watt 10mm LEDs. They are very bright and grow well. I picked them up for under $60 apiece on E-Bay. However, they are very flimsy and the power supplies are highly suspect. I would only buy them again (or any LED light) with a decent warrantee.

[beef74]

hell yeah man, I've got a 50 watt red budding panel from htg supply with a power converter that you can fry an egg on by the end of the day.I only have them on when I'm home, so I know what you mean brother-be careful.But they are damn bright and grow plants well-just the designs a little scary.

[beef74]

I have a 120 watt no-name light with the 1 watt Bridgelux LEDs and it appears very solid. (Too soon to give growing feedback.)

I picked up some of the 50 watt China panels with 0.5 watt 10mm LEDs. They are very bright and grow well. I picked them up for under $60 apiece on E-Bay. However, they are very flimsy and the power supplies are highly suspect. I would only buy them again (or any LED light) with a decent warrantee.and you got a good unit-bridge lux leds are all you need-not a logo-so ya done good-please keep me posted-I've seen some really nice results from the 120w units especially Dokkies led grows on Dampkring Coffee shops website.check him out -peace

[RackitMan]

hell yeah man, I've got a 50 watt red budding panel from htg supply with a power converter that you can fry an egg on by the end of the day.I only have them on when I'm home, so I know what you mean brother-be careful.But they are damn bright and grow plants well-just the designs a little scary.

Exactly. As a former engineer, what pisses me off is it would only cost a few more bucks to do the design right. They cut corners on the regulator and heatsink. Thay aren't going to be losing any sales by charging $5 more for a safe unit.

My blue one burned up while I was at home, thank FSM.

[beef74]

Exactly. As a former engineer, what pisses me off is it would only cost a few more bucks to do the design right. They cut corners on the regulator and heatsink. Thay aren't going to be losing any sales by charging $5 more for a safe unit.

My blue one burned up while I was at home, thank FSM. It just shows how fly by night some of these places are-if they'd have done any kind of real testing, they would have seen the problem.But no, slave labor profits arent enough, they have to cut corners on QC- as an engineer you know how important testing is.No one ever says oh that cross-bracing "should" be good enough- or I "think" that structural steel is ok, why isnt it the same when it comes to burning down peoples homes? No wonder this technology has taken so many lumps.

[RackitMan]

My 120 watter is built like a tank, is heavy and has three cooling fans (like the UFOs) and runs very cool to the touch. Yay!

[RackitMan]

I just noticed that my E-Bay vendor added this subtitle on their 50 watter:
NEW POWER CIRCUIT DESIGN, MORE EFFIENT(sic) & PROBLEM FREE!!

Translation: We did piss-poor engineering and all our customers complained about units overheating/frying so we decided to do it right to stay in business.

[beef74]

Hey, at leasthat shows that they want to stay in business-a good sign

[RackitMan]

Seems they do have a newer supply. I will keep you informed if they try to charge me or send two gratis. They did send a replacement for free already, but it was the poor design and so was useless.

The vendor (not the manufacturer) said I could open air mount the supplies and add a cooler. Yeah, I want to jury rig a new unit to work the way it should. :mad:

If I do receive the new supplies, I will buy a cooking thermometer and record the before and after temperatures.

I told them flat out if they fix the problem I will give them props here and elsewhere, if not I would spread the word to stay away.

Disregarding the heat issue, they are great for side-lighting (and the blue is awesome for seedlings) as they are so flat and are light-years ahead of the nearly useless 15 watt panels in terms of light output.

[RackitMan]

The vendor has agreed to send two new supplies. :)

In a week or so, I will give y'all an update.

Pardon me for not being familar with the rules on spamming. I would like to print the vendor and distributor name either way so others know to avoid or consider if that is allowed.

[beef74]

been a while, but heres my current 350 watt led grow

[potofgold]

i have the same ufo as you, this things kicks ass. ProSource Worldwide - LED Grow Lights w/ 5-Band Tri-Spectrum design. Newest technology available. (http://www.prosourceworldwide.com) is the best led grow lights you can buy. they just came out with the new 5 ban light with info red. the 180watt one rocks but they also offer a 90w 5 ban. my 90w will grow over a ounce on one of my clone every time. cost an extra $6.00 of energy every month. ill post some pics once i get a camera. this company dose lots of testing thats why they are the best around. here is what they offer i copyed it from their web site. call 1-866-921-5553. thell them you talked to me POT OF GOLD, and they will hook you up

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tell them you talked to me: pot of gold and they will hook you up.