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Braindrill
03-20-2009, 02:52 AM
so i made some firecrackers today and i was wondering if someone could please tell me where i went wrong...
i put enough peanut butter (jiff) just to cover the crackers (town house). put a very small amount of butter mixed in with the peanutbutter. sprinkled ground .5 on each cracker. sealed it in tin foil. baked for 25 min, 320F. i had two and i didn't feel a thing. any ideas?
denialisback
03-20-2009, 02:54 AM
so i made some firecrackers today and i was wondering if someone could please tell me where i went wrong...
i put enough peanut butter (jiff) just to cover the crackers (town house). put a very small amount of butter mixed in with the peanutbutter. sprinkled ground .5 on each cracker. sealed it in tin foil. baked for 25 min, 320F. i had two and i didn't feel a thing. any ideas?
how long did you wait? Activation in your body takes an hour or so..
Peace,
Denial
Braindrill
03-20-2009, 03:12 AM
well we did it about.. 10 hours ago. pretty sure it wouldn't take longer than that haha. i think i might actually give these another shot tonight. i'll let you know what round 2 ends up like.
fasts102376
03-20-2009, 03:22 AM
sounds like you did it right,was your weed any good?
Braindrill
03-20-2009, 03:36 AM
weed was good mids. i read something about nuking it for like 15 seconds before and after baking it. does that have anything to do with it?
denialisback
03-20-2009, 03:50 AM
weed was good mids. i read something about nuking it for like 15 seconds before and after baking it. does that have anything to do with it?
dont nuke it, its called nuking for a reason :P damages things with water in (i know some scientists that conducted a survey in the path of water in a microwave... they wouldnt eat food put in one afterwards lol.. kinda makes you wonder doesn't it.
Don't put the sacred weed in there, man lol :D
I did once and it caught fire, was my last bud too :(
haha yeah nothing after 10 hours you are definately out of luck.
Peace,
Denial
denialisback
03-20-2009, 03:51 AM
weed was good mids. i read something about nuking it for like 15 seconds before and after baking it. does that have anything to do with it?
i guess the best direct way to test an extraction is smoking it, but sometimes that aint feesable is it ;D not when its peanut butter haha
good luck in your ventures
Peace,
Denial
Coelho
03-20-2009, 06:25 AM
weed was good mids. i read something about nuking it for like 15 seconds before and after baking it. does that have anything to do with it?
Yes... usually weed is not completly cured, so it has some inactive cannabinoids (THCA) in it. Microwaving it (or heating it) transforms this inactive cannabinoids to THC (the active one), thus increasing the weeds potency. This effect is specially noticeable in freshly harvested bud, schwagg/mids, and any weed that wasnt completly and properly cured. Sometimes the increase in potency can be VERY great. There are a lot of threads about it... if you want more info, search "decarboxilation".
(BTW, doing this before smoking also gives good results... the high becomes more sativa-like [mind high].)
Anyway... it may not be the cause of failure. Did you eat them with an empty stomach? Cause eating weed with a full stomach usually doesnt work. Also, it isnt everybody who can get high from eating weed... i dont know why its so, maybe some people cant metabolyze the THC orally taken... also, the high is different from the smoked one, its onset is way slower, so many people actually gets high from eating weed, but doesnt notice it cause the effects are way subtler...
I think making weed edibles is a bit of an art, and its a bit tricky too, so dont be disappionted if your first try were a failure... sooner or later you will succeed... :stoned:
Braindrill
03-20-2009, 05:41 PM
ooh, so that was most likely the problem? it would make sense. i tried making them again last night but i fell asleep after an hour or so. round 2 = fail, haha. sometime i'll have to try microwaving them a bit before baking. thanks alot for the help!
MadSativa
03-21-2009, 05:48 AM
Fire crackers are a waste more tiems than most. I recomend just making butter, and tryig that in your recipies
Braindrill
03-21-2009, 06:27 AM
what else would be really easy to make? i figured firecrackers were about the easiest. maybe brownies would be fun.. haha
ky1956
03-21-2009, 07:17 PM
Falling asleep may have been an indication that they were working, they always give me a strong case of couchlock. Nodding to sleep would be the next phase.
I put PB on the cracker, make a small bowl in the PB with the tip of a knife, place the pot in the bowl then put a few drops of cooking oil on the pot. now stir the oil and pot together, then mix that into the PB. This method has never failed me if I eat them on an empty stomach.
Good luck and let us know how your experiments go.
Remember it's is all in the name of scientific discovery.
AbrandnewL
03-21-2009, 07:36 PM
Well first off you said you used Jiff PB...That's not recommended because it doesnt have enough sat. fat content compared to nutella or organic pb..if there isnt enough saturated fat, not enough THC will be asborbed...Also, if you made a lot of crackers, you should turn the oven settings up...
Hope i helped:thumbsup:
lunarose
03-21-2009, 08:57 PM
Hi, I've never had much luck with firecrackers. For a quick edible I like to buy a roll of cookie dough cut off about 3-4 inches off the roll and mix in finely ground bud about a gram. Spoon out the cookies on a cookie sheet. Bake it a little cooler then they recommend (275) for about 30 minutes and enjoy.
VapedG13
03-21-2009, 09:19 PM
try the original......A Leary biscuit:thumbsup:
A Leary biscuit is a snack consisting of a cracker, cheese, and ground up marijuana bud. It is heated in a microwave oven and causes a cannabis "high" in the eater. The heating is said to activate the tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient in cannabis. In actuality, the heating simply increases the solubility of the THC in the fats and oils in the cheese. The plant material of cannabis is not easily digested, and so the THC is not readily absorbed into the bloodstream unless it is first dissolved in some kind of fat, oil, or alcohol. This is why cheese is used for the Leary biscuit - cheese has a high fat content, suitable for dissolving THC and making it more readily available for digestion.
It is also a widespread myth that THC must be heated to "activate" it. However, heating a cannabis food/drink preparation actually makes it more potent. What actually happens is that additional THC is formed from the chemical breakdown of inactive carboxylic acid THC derivatives present in the cannabis. The carboxylic acid derivatives are inactive themselves, but when heated they readily lose their carboxylate group as carbon dioxide, and active THC is formed. In some instances, heating can actually double the active THC content of the original starting plant material .
THC and other cannabinoids are hydrophobic oils. They are insoluble in water but soluble in alcohols, fats, and other oils. As cannabinoids are insoluble in water alone, they suffer from low bioavailability when eaten. By dissolving the cannabinoids in alcohol, fats, or oils (such as the fat in butter and cheese), their ability to be absorbed by the body is increased. Heating the THC in the presence of fats or oils simply accelerates the process of dissolution in the fats, from some hours at room temperature to minutes in the microwave.
Timothy Leary was reportedly fond of these concoctions, especially in the later years of his life (allegedly because his physician asked him to quit smoking ) and thus they are named for him
Braindrill
03-22-2009, 05:18 PM
thanks for all who responded. i'll definitely be trying the method with cooking oil. also the cookie dough idea just sparked my interest as well haha. And the leary biscuit? priceless! haha. hell, i should have a bake sale this weekend
HappyKamper
03-27-2009, 01:44 PM
firecrackers are awesome! the problem is that people make them on a whim, and don't have the right ingredients, at least thats what i did the first time. organic PB is a must, Jiff just does not work at all, i have had varying results with nutella, and gram cracker helps with the taste. also using a coffee grinder to turn the weed into a powder helps, and i like to blend that powder with the PB making a dark green paste, this aids absorption and taste. i do nuke it first for 15 seconds, and i bake at 318 degrees, for 22-30 minutes. i think some of my early failures were due to not cooking long enough. i make these from mids and enjoy them almost every weekend. they are quick, easy, and a no mess way to get blown out.
Braindrill
03-30-2009, 04:18 AM
i finally got these working pretty well. jif, a spritz of vegetable oil, .5-.7g on saltines in the oven at 320 for 25 minutes works flawless. i'm sure it'd work a whole lot better if i mixed up the weed and pb, also using organic pb. maybe i'll try that out this week
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