Government arseholes haven't got a clue what they're doing...

[GTC21]

I was watching the news this morning and they're thinking about reclassifying cannabis from class C back up to class B. There's no way cannabis qualifies for class B, it will be up there with amphetamines for christ sake WTF?!
Some stupid bitch was being interviewed and she was saying that she agrees with the reclassification because somebody she knows who smoked cannabis has been diagnosed with a schizophrenic-like illness. She immediately blamed cannabis. And also said stuff like "cannabis leads to heroin" and the usual bullshit. I felt like putting my foot through the TV.
They were also reading out letters/e-mails sent in by the public and they surprisingly read out the ones which were pro cannabis like - "alcohol is the drug that should be reclassified, it's far more dangerous" and "I know people who've smoked cannabis for over 30 years and there's nothing wrong with their minds". The thing that pisses me off is the fact that the people who are trying to keep cananbis ilegal don't know fuck all about the drug, they probably don't even know what it looks like.
The cannabis "scene" in my eyes is a group of friendly people all having a smoke together, no fighting or wrecking the place etc., the alcohol scene is a bunch of degenerate morons getting blind drunk and slamming glasses into each others faces, pushing the emergency services to their limits and often beyond it; I ask you this- which is the most harmful? which is the most damaging to people's health and society? How can the government not see it?
Lets say that alcohol was suddenly replaced with cannabis, everyone who drinks smoked cannabis instead, all the pubs turned into cannabis cafe-like places. There would be almost no violence whatsoever, the hospitals wouldn't be filled beyond capacity by people getting their faces stitched back together every weekend. Who the hell wants to fight when they're stoned?
I know everyone's heard all this shit before but I just thought I'd post it anyway.

P.S- Don't get me wrong about my views on alcohol, I like a drink myself but I can handle it unlike some people. I'm not a trouble-maker, I don't go around starting fights.

[juggalo420]

still better than the shit we have to deal with here in america, most times if a cop finds weed on you he acts like you just murdered a 5 year old down syndrom baby then ate it.

[tagnamestek]

i see it like this:
the government, at least the US government newayz, will never legalize weed. this is bekause stereotypikally it is a "blakk" thang to do. the government throughout its history has been prowhite anti everything else. they show it again throughout history. so look at it this way, if weeds legalized, blakks, mexikans, all of us, would be making money. wed be generating inkome in our kommunities. but if its illegal we kant do that. so if they kontinue to give us kheap alkohal we will kontinue to kill ourselves. or at least thats how i see it. its all a prowhite konspirasy, if the white government kan get us, the "minorities", to go out, and kill eakhother over drug territory, then they have just that mukh power. if weed was legal, there wouldnt be these gangs fighting over drug turf kause you kould just go to the store and buy some. yeah im ramblin so imma stop talkin. damn after rereadin that it sounds like im anti white, i would like to state i am not advokating violense or nething anti white

[juggalo420]

^naw that aint anti-white, its anti-goverment, it just happens most in goverment are white. they wanna get re-elected, so rather than having fair drug laws they'd rather throw a disproportionate number of minorities in jail for drug offences to make the middle class (again mostly white) feel safer, most of the white middle class dont want minorities moving into the suburbs, going to their kids school, generally making them feel 'uncomfortable'. of course theres not much open racism, theres the sutble kind, lock 1 in 10 black men in prison and a similar number of hispanics, most for non-violent drug crimes.

that in combonation with goverment protecting pharmacutical companies AND THE TOBBACCO AND ALCOHOL INDUSTRIES makes me think it will never be legal in america.

[robert42]

they wont do it. if they do that theyll prove they failed.

there only doin it as its time for the local elections agen.

[juggalo420]

they wont do it. if they do that theyll prove they failed.

there only doin it as its time for the local elections agen.
same shit happens here in the u.s, right before an election politicians get 'tough on crime' or to translate to my friends across the atlantic, 'how can they get more minorities off the street'.

[Rarrr]

same shit happens here in the u.s, right before an election politicians get 'tough on crime' or to translate to my friends across the atlantic, 'how can they get more minorities off the street'.
And why does the government protect the pharmaceuticals, tobacco and alcohol industry bcos it taxes a large proportion in these industries, greedy bastards always taking advantage of our ignorant society!

[Rarrr]

oops copied the wrong one!?!? damn im ripped

[thcbongman]

I don't see America legalizing even 20 years down the road.

Some private companies are moving to test their employees for tobacco. Some make not smoking a condition of your employment. Police now authorized to use a drug dog without probable cause in traffic stops.

This is a couple of many examples of decreasing privacy of your life. Now people want to know more about what occurs in your private life. Disturbing yes. At least the laws in UK are reasonable and are still moving in a progressive direction. Meanwhile, the US is going backwards, heading to the days before the 1970 CSA. America has a neo-conservative movement: right wing moral ideology with left wing authotarian controls. The way I see legalization happening is through major funding and tax issues years down the road, which may happen starting under Bush.

[420ultimatesmokage]

I don't see America legalizing even 20 years down the road.

Some private companies are moving to test their employees for tobacco. Some make not smoking a condition of your employment. Police now authorized to use a drug dog without probable cause in traffic stops.

This is a couple of many examples of decreasing privacy of your life. Now people want to know more about what occurs in your private life. Disturbing yes. At least the laws in UK are reasonable and are still moving in a progressive direction. Meanwhile, the US is going backwards, heading to the days before the 1970 CSA. America has a neo-conservative movement: right wing moral ideology with left wing authotarian controls. The way I see legalization happening is through major funding and tax issues years down the road, which may happen starting under Bush.

that is so true, i feel like we been going backwards nothing good is happening just more bullshit

[ermitonto]

Right, I don't see it getting legalized in the United States any time in the next few decades. The only reason it's illegal worldwide is because Harry Anslinger used America's influence in the United Nations to coerce over a hundred countries to consolidate their drug policies into one pretty much dictated by America. America has been at the front of the war on drugs, going so far as to violate other nations' sovereignties (meanwhile the CIA continues to play an active role in the international drug trade...). The govenment has more than enough information at its disposal to determine that cannabis is far less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco, and politicians either ignore it for the sake of not tearing apart their pre-existing beliefs or because most people wouldn't stand for it and they'd lose votes.

The system doesn't allow serious challenges to long-standing policies like cannabis prohibition. The goverment isn't going to do anything because the people don't seem to want it; the propaganda campaigns have been overall quite successful in swaying the gullible masses. And the people aren't going to do anything because the government has imposed such strict policies and stigmas on the activity that practically no one is courageous enough to publicly admit to having tried pot, much less advocate its legalization.

[OrangeHairs INC]

Ha I only have on thing to say to you.

Welcome my son....... Welcome, to the Machine!

[Nullific]

Resuscitate the Psychedelic Revolution.
We need chemists, then we pick up where Albert Hoffman, Alexander (and Ann) Shulgin, Abbie Hofmann and Timothy Leary left off and show the government whose boss.

[weirdo79]

The Irony is a good but an "old" cultivation guide for "indian hemp" was written by none other than George Washington..Wonder why he wrote that the females are the ones to keep....(for all those who think it was "just hemp" he was talking about)

[ermitonto]

Well, back then they didn't have "industrial hemp" that was bred not to have THC in it.

[Gothen]

I will second these remarks! Our government is the most hypocritcal in the world.

"Don't lie to us. Tell us you have weed."

While we're over here going,

"....you lie about us on a daily basis, and make illegal to possess what we think came from God, and should be allowed to use recreationally."

I don't know if I got my point across or not. I'm apologize. This is my first time smoking in 8 days, and during those 8 days I worked out every day. So, I'm so completely ripped right now, it's not even funny. (actually, everything is right now). I'm listening to L Arena from Kill Bill Vol. 2's soundtrack, and it's the greatest thing ever. Sorta Mexican like. ...oh god....I'm rambling....
Anyway....suffcie it to say, I'm so screwed up right now, the screen and my fingers are the only things I can really make out right now. It's all such a blur. I'm glad I have the typing record....

I HATE THE UNITED STATES OF HYPOCRISY! (in that aspect....)

[Stedric]

^Haha, yeah man! Let's hear it for posting on this board while baked!

Anyways, I'm not quite sure whether or not America will legalize it. I know Canada won't because our government is hungry for American support. I agree that their were many racial issues surrounding its criminilization (particularly hispanics and blacks). But, I also have to say that their are other factors surrounding the fact that its STILL illegal.

1. The Christian Right hate anything fun.

2. Its a useful tool in suppressing minorities and the youth.

3. It would mean admitting they lost the drug war.

4. Hemp clothing could displace the big powerful textile corporations.

5. Its a great thing to scare the American public with in order for them to coerce them into giving the Government money.

Yay for being messed up!
:D :D :D

[weirdo79]

You said it Sted , and thats probably why the Du Pont company lobbied so incessantly for its illegality as well....and that damn Emily Murphy....may they both rot....

[NowhereMan]

I was watching the news this morning and they're thinking about reclassifying cannabis from class C back up to class B. There's no way cannabis qualifies for class B, it will be up there with amphetamines for christ sake WTF?!
Some stupid bitch was being interviewed and she was saying that she agrees with the reclassification because somebody she knows who smoked cannabis has been diagnosed with a schizophrenic-like illness. She immediately blamed cannabis. And also said stuff like "cannabis leads to heroin" and the usual bullshit. I felt like putting my foot through the TV.
They were also reading out letters/e-mails sent in by the public and they surprisingly read out the ones which were pro cannabis like - "alcohol is the drug that should be reclassified, it's far more dangerous" and "I know people who've smoked cannabis for over 30 years and there's nothing wrong with their minds". The thing that pisses me off is the fact that the people who are trying to keep cananbis ilegal don't know fuck all about the drug, they probably don't even know what it looks like.
The cannabis "scene" in my eyes is a group of friendly people all having a smoke together, no fighting or wrecking the place etc., the alcohol scene is a bunch of degenerate morons getting blind drunk and slamming glasses into each others faces, pushing the emergency services to their limits and often beyond it; I ask you this- which is the most harmful? which is the most damaging to people's health and society? How can the government not see it?
Lets say that alcohol was suddenly replaced with cannabis, everyone who drinks smoked cannabis instead, all the pubs turned into cannabis cafe-like places. There would be almost no violence whatsoever, the hospitals wouldn't be filled beyond capacity by people getting their faces stitched back together every weekend. Who the hell wants to fight when they're stoned?
I know everyone's heard all this shit before but I just thought I'd post it anyway.

P.S- Don't get me wrong about my views on alcohol, I like a drink myself but I can handle it unlike some people. I'm not a trouble-maker, I don't go around starting fights.


and where is Here?
thats some crazy shit i agree,anyone who says that booze and cigs are ok and weed is so bad is a fucked up moron that needs Reclassified themself,

dam i feel bad for ya where ever that is UK? im guessing since ya used the term arsehole
peace

[hoodedclum]

Yeh it really pisses me off, ignorant bastards. Shows you how much they know, thinking of reclassifying cannabis twice within the space of a couple of years.. what kind of message is that giving out ?

[ermitonto]

dam i feel bad for ya where ever that is UK? im guessing since ya used the term arsehole
peace

The flying UK flag avatar is another hint.

But yeah, the government has already lost the War on Drugs. They lost it when they declared it, because it was futile and doomed to begin with. Here in America the statistics clearly show this but no doubt the government is going to get even more fascistic about it in the coming years. At least in Europe there's hope for eventual legalization. The Netherlands have had incredible success with their drug policy, and Belgium is starting to follow suit. Even in Germany legislators are starting to call for experiments based on the Dutch model. In my opinion it's just a matter of time before it's legalized or at least decriminalized throughout the EU. But on this side of the Atlantic it's going to take a lot longer for the government to give in to the inevitable. But maybe that can be sped up if increased tolerance in Europe continues to show the kinds of results the Dutch have seen.

[BUZz UK]

i smoke joints in the street, not in an "in ya face, i'm taking drugs!" childish way, but a slightly more respectful inconspicous way. it's my human right, and no one is gonna take that away from me, especially those toss-pot politicians, who are living in fuckin La La land.

[slipnslide087]

QUOTE: tagnamestek says: i see it like this:
the government, at least the US government newayz, will never legalize weed. this is bekause stereotypikally it is a "blakk" thang to do. the government throughout its history has been prowhite anti everything else. they show it again throughout history. so look at it this way, if weeds legalized, blakks, mexikans, all of us, would be making money. wed be generating inkome in our kommunities. but if its illegal we kant do that. so if they kontinue to give us kheap alkohal we will kontinue to kill ourselves. or at least thats how i see it. its all a prowhite konspirasy, if the white government kan get us, the "minorities", to go out, and kill eakhother over drug territory, then they have just that mukh power. if weed was legal, there wouldnt be these gangs fighting over drug turf kause you kould just go to the store and buy some. yeah im ramblin so imma stop talkin. damn after rereadin that it sounds like im anti white, i would like to state i am not advokating violense or nething anti white"

-im still trying to figure out if that made any sense......wait....NOPE

[Reefer Rogue]

i see it like this:
the government, at least the US government newayz, will never legalize weed. this is bekause stereotypikally it is a "blakk" thang to do. the government throughout its history has been prowhite anti everything else. they show it again throughout history. so look at it this way, if weeds legalized, blakks, mexikans, all of us, would be making money. wed be generating inkome in our kommunities. but if its illegal we kant do that. so if they kontinue to give us kheap alkohal we will kontinue to kill ourselves. or at least thats how i see it. its all a prowhite konspirasy, if the white government kan get us, the "minorities", to go out, and kill eakhother over drug territory, then they have just that mukh power. if weed was legal, there wouldnt be these gangs fighting over drug turf kause you kould just go to the store and buy some. yeah im ramblin so imma stop talkin. damn after rereadin that it sounds like im anti white, i would like to state i am not advokating violense or nething anti white

No offence, but would you consider using "C's" and not only "K's"?

[slipnslide087]

he cant, because hes in a gang HAHAHAHAHAHAHA