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calichin9
10-26-2008, 12:41 AM
Okay this is my first time trying to grow, i know things are gonna mess up and I am gonna learn but any advice and comments would be greatly appreciated! Okay I got 12 White Dwarf seeds that my cousin brought from Spain. Sent up the grow box to be 2 1/2ft x 2 1/2ft.
The light is a 125watt HPS light
1 6" fan
Mini air duct built into the wall
Organic Soil (cannot find Guanno ANYWHERE here in CR)
Lights are 16/8 and here are a few pics of the grow so far

Ill keep uploading pics throught the week!!! ENJOY!

Day 1
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/1.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/2.jpg


Day 8
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/3.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/4.jpg

Giro2007
10-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Hey there bud good luck on your grow, word of advice the white dwarf doesnt like the heat its been murder trying to get a temp this plant likes and ive never seen roots grow so quick! All the best!

calichin9
10-30-2008, 04:38 AM
thanks man! ill have new pics up tommorow to show hows the progress :D::rastasmoke:

calichin9
10-31-2008, 09:50 PM
Day 13
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4074.jpg

growth has slowed down TREMENDOUSLY. went out today and bought 2 100watt CFL lights, 6400K. going to go and replace the HPS light with these and use that one for flower. ANY INPUT would be great!

or could i just add the 2 lights with the hps?

Firemansam606
11-02-2008, 08:14 PM
So long as you can keep the temp in check I'd go for using the 2x100w CFLs and the 150w HPS at the same time.

Oscar Mike

calichin9
11-03-2008, 04:47 AM
So long as you can keep the temp in check I'd go for using the 2x100w CFLs and the 150w HPS at the same time.

Oscar Mike

thanks for the advice! i didnt know whether to use only one at one time but ill give it a shot! tommorow gonna go install them so ill have updated pics aswell:rasta:

dooobster
11-03-2008, 05:00 AM
I agree with Fireman. Get those CFL's in there & your plants should respond favorably, as long as you've got your temps in check.

Your grow cabinet is nice... Looks to be nearly the same size as mine, about 2ft X 2ft by 4ft tall. I have a 400w HPS in a cool tube lighting mine up. The temps stay at about 80 degrees F with the light on.

If you get your plants growing well, you'd better get them into flower pretty soon, because that many plants are going to have that cab packed so tight, light's not gonna reach the bottom... lol :rastasmoke:

I'm only growing 2 plants in mine and believe me, they fill up the cabinet nicely. :D:thumbsup:

One other thing I noticed - you need to work some perlite down into that soil so the water will drain better and your plants' roots can breathe.
I'd try to do it now, before the root systems get too big.

At any rate, I wish you good luck with your grow, and I hope you're blessed with lots of girls!! :hippy:

Peace :)

calichin9
11-04-2008, 12:31 AM
Day 17
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day172.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day17.jpg

Okay the plants are looking kinda sick. Droopy leaves and 2 or 3 have yellow lil spots but not very big. We went ahead and installed the 2 cfl's but the pic is showing only them on, but really we have both that and the HPS on aswell.

Found out that my cousin isnt watering them suffeciently and leaving pretty dry so had to bitch him out and showed him how much.

Thanks for the comments guys :) yea the box was pretty cheap setting up since we had dry wall left over from the house :rasta: Tommorow ill load up a good pic with Digital Macro on! haha

Oh and tommorow to the nursery here and seeing if they got any perlite!

calichin9
11-05-2008, 05:13 AM
Okay i got sum updated and clearer pics of today, any input on why they are very shriveld up and loosing their green, would be great :) thanks yall

Day18
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day182.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day183.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day184.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/Day185.jpg

calichin9
11-06-2008, 03:26 PM
wow 113 views and only 8 post....and 4 of them are mine.........



any help will be greatly appreciated! :)

calichin9
11-11-2008, 06:16 PM
okay its DAY21 and these plants are getting more leaves but still look very sick. I went ahead and posted the pics and issue in the Plant Sickness forum cuz noone here even looks at them or replys, but this sat. is payday and gonna go get sum new dirt, perlite, and hopefully Chicken poop cuz its high in nitrogen and guano is not avaliable here in costa rica haha. cant find it anywhere. well enjoy yall!
DAY 21

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4145.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4141.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4139.jpg

LuciferN
11-11-2008, 07:28 PM
If I where you I would fill this form: http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/127058-troubleshooting-form-yay-you-know-you-wanted-one.html
They look like really sick, just fill the thing, I'll try to figure out what is the problem...

calichin9
11-12-2008, 01:32 AM
If I where you I would fill this form: http://boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/127058-troubleshooting-form-yay-you-know-you-wanted-one.html
They look like really sick, just fill the thing, I'll try to figure out what is the problem...


thanks man, went ahead and filled one out and posted it:thumbsup:

calichin9
11-29-2008, 04:44 PM
alright since yesterday was able to get money, went out and bought a bag of Perlite and potting soil. so we made a mix of potting soil, worm castings, and perlite so hopefully this will wake up our plants alittle.

some questions for you experts out there
1. these plants are still like 3 inches tall...and its been over a month now.....is it possible that they can still grow to their potential or better with some new seeds and start over??

2. any experience anyone with this dirt? this is the BEST DIRT YOU CAN FIND HERE IN COSTA RICA, I SWEEEAARR!!! everything else looks like crap, and the bag even says it contains Guano :D any input on this maker?

thanks yall, been a great help!!!!

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/th_1-2.jpg (http://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/?action=view&current=1-2.jpg)
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/th_2-2.jpg (http://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/?action=view&current=2-2.jpg)
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/th_3-3.jpg (http://s362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/?action=view&current=3-3.jpg)

lunarose
11-30-2008, 01:45 AM
Hi,
I am planning on trying some white dwarf soon so I will be watching you grow closely. From what I understand is that they are suppose veg for two months and then auto flower they are suppose to be a smaller plant. What light schedule do you have them on? I have two AF strains growing right now Auto Ak-47 and diselryder. The AK-47 wasn't much bigger then yours at 3 weeks they are 7 weeks now flowering and maybe 12" tall they also did not start flowering until they were 5-6 weeks old rather then the two weeks the breeder said.

Joyrider
12-02-2008, 02:31 AM
Ok, They look overwatered first of all.

I think that you ought to invest in some CFL's. The hps is the wrong color of light for vegging. It can be done, but it's not going to be very quick that for sure.

The CFL's will put out similar Lumens per watt as the HPS but the correct color. Plus they are cheap as hell. Not sure if they are available in costa rica though. they are on right next to regular light bulbs here in the states everywhere. So look into it for better growth.

I'll keep following along.

calichin9
12-02-2008, 02:35 AM
Ok, They look overwatered first of all.

I think that you ought to invest in some CFL's. The hps is the wrong color of light for vegging. It can be done, but it's not going to be very quick that for sure.

The CFL's will put out similar Lumens per watt as the HPS but the correct color. Plus they are cheap as hell. Not sure if they are available in costa rica though. they are on right next to regular light bulbs here in the states everywhere. So look into it for better growth.

I'll keep following along.

thanks man for the input and yea we have 2 100watt CFL lights running right now, but 2 more seem more ideal for a faster bigger crop. those we can find, its just organic plant food and such is impossible aswell...
THANKS MAN!!:thumbsup:
also gonna cut down on the amount of water added.

calichin9
12-02-2008, 02:42 AM
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4259.jpg
heres the updated pic of 1 of the plants! already looks healther with more leaves in 2 days!

Sandm4n
12-02-2008, 02:51 AM
Hmm what are your temps in their? they look a little burnt and in the earlier pics over watered. but other then that they look ok. I hope you have enough room in your cabinet for all the wonderful flowers :jointsmile:

calichin9
12-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Hmm what are your temps in their? they look a little burnt and in the earlier pics over watered. but other then that they look ok. I hope you have enough room in your cabinet for all the wonderful flowers :jointsmile:

well the temps im not sure yet :( we dont have a thermo. in there but thats on our to get list with ph tester/controler too so we can have best for the plants
But this weekend we cut a hole in the wall, little less than the outter rim of the fan so its pulling air from INSIDE the attic, and blowing it in, to where it blows inbetween the canopy and the lights

Before it was inside there just blowing hot air around, ill post up pics today when the lights come on :thumbsup::jointsmile:

calichin9
12-03-2008, 12:26 AM
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4275.jpg

if we make a whole in the wall infront of this one, and a little higher with another fan blowing from INSIDE the box to OUTSIDE, what size should it be??

since the fan sucking in is 6", should the exhaust be like 8"?
thanks guys!

calichin9
12-04-2008, 01:38 PM
okay i got sum updated pics from today from all the changes and the plants are looking ALOT BETTER :jointsmile: atleast they have almost doubled in size over the past 4 days and not as yellow as before, getting some green back!!! :D
this week we are getting
PH test KIT
Another fan for exhaust
Thermometer
and probably 2 more CFL lights, 100watt 6500K

but heres the updated pics of the gurls :D
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/4-2.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/1-3.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/3-4.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/2-3.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/5-1.jpg

calichin9
12-08-2008, 01:44 AM
well its been one week and one day with this new dirt and we got some new plant food ill post up later and a FINALLY a contact to get liquids and such(plant food and everything) :thumbsup:
heres the pics!
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4293.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4294.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4299.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4301.jpg

calichin9
12-08-2008, 08:32 PM
ps. got a thermo and says its about 79-80 degrees with the lights on and fan :thumbsup:
plants looking alot better now!!! yellow has gone and green has come :D

lunarose
12-10-2008, 03:03 AM
Hi, They are looking good now. I've got 5 fem white dwarf's that I just germ'd and are now in peat cups. From what I have read they are suppose to grow for two months and then flower....is that what you heard?

calichin9
12-10-2008, 04:27 AM
actually i heard this breed you can have a decent harvest with only one month veg and one month flower, that is with proper equipment and feeding, which i didnt have when i started. but thats what my cuz told me that grew it that way and came out excellent

lunarose
12-10-2008, 06:54 AM
Hi, Now I am confused I thought they were autoflowering and that the photoperiod had nothing to do with flowering. I was hoping that they would veg for the two months and get a better yeild then I have been getting with other AF's.

lunarose
12-13-2008, 06:48 AM
So???? How are they doing? I have five that have just popped so any updates or tips would help

calichin9
12-13-2008, 05:01 PM
So???? How are they doing? I have five that have just popped so any updates or tips would help
man theyre doing great!! they responded favorably to the new dirt mix, and we also added another CFL light so that each plant has its own :D
idk, they seem to grow pretty fast, id just recommend really good dirt and feed but im not too expert on this, first time growing :thumbsup:

http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/1-5.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/2-5.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/3-5.jpg

lunarose
12-14-2008, 03:02 AM
They are looking great now! They also look like they have doubled in size since you last picture. What did you get your temps down to? I mixed up my soil mixture hopefully they will like it.

calichin9
12-14-2008, 04:53 PM
They are looking great now! They also look like they have doubled in size since you last picture. What did you get your temps down to? I mixed up my soil mixture hopefully they will like it.

thanks man:jointsmile: well the temps are at 79-80degress with the HPS light on, with it off it goes down to like 69 or something, pretty low.
hey man you should start a grow log so i can follow up on yours too since we got the same strain :D

lunarose
12-15-2008, 12:52 AM
Hi, I'll probably start a log after Christmas when I have more time. I've got my temps at around 80 now.

calichin9
12-16-2008, 12:16 AM
well heres sum updated pics of the plants :D looking healthy and strong :thumbsup:
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4358.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4359.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4350.jpg
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/oo62/javi420_photo/IMG_4348.jpg

fUNKYcDOG
12-16-2008, 12:45 AM
ur plants are lookin good man


:bong::rastabanna::greenthumb:

calichin9
12-16-2008, 03:31 AM
ur plants are lookin good man


:bong::rastabanna::greenthumb:

thanks man:rastasmoke:

calichin9
12-18-2008, 03:55 AM
posting up pics tommorow of how they are :D
bump

lunarose
12-19-2008, 05:06 AM
I am looking forward to seeing your updated pictures. So far so good on my girls. Unfortunately my BIL is going to be here until the 27th so I'll have to wait til then to start their log but I plan on checking up on yours.

lunarose
02-04-2009, 12:34 AM
So how did your grow go? I assumed you already harvested your WD mine are 7 weeks old now I doubt they'll be ready on week 8 probably 10 or 11.