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stinkyattic
10-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Backing up your genetics is an important part of giving yourself an out in case you have to dismantle your grow. If you have ever had to bail, you will know that the hardest part of all is finding a safe spot to stash your genetics collection, and if you can't, having that debate with yourself that goes something like, " I feel the hairs on the back of my neck sticking up but I CAN'T lose my genetics so I'll sit here and cross my fingers and hope that I don't get raided." STUPID!!!! Stupid stupid. So don't put yourself in that position. Back up your stuff!

You need:
One rubbermaid tub that is at least 20" deep
One 4" inline duct booster fan
One power tool replacement cord
A 4" hole saw and a drill
A 1" hole saw or spade bit
A cheap timer
A pair of stockings
Sharp, heavy pruning shears or tin snips
A small packet of wire nuts (you will use 3 of them)
A corded socket and daylight CFL to go in it- smaller is fine; you want SURVIVAL not YIELD and a big CFL may get too hot.
Some small pots and clones off your parent plants.
Electricity

Cut the exhaust hole in the lid.
Twist white to white, black to black, green to ground.
Snugly cap the raw wires. DO NOT just tape them!
Snip a small notch to accept the light cord.
Fit the fan so that the flow direction is UP.

stinkyattic
10-16-2008, 05:16 PM
Cut your intake holes in the bottom corners of the box- all of them. Multiple intake points will help with internal circulation since you won't run an interior fan.
Assemble the whole thing so that the light is hanging free just beneath the fan, and clip it in place with a bulldog clip or something.
Put your stockings over the vent to minimize pollen.
Find a nice dark corner of the cellar to stick it- it is NOT lightproof!- plug it in, and fill it with plants!

In 2 months you will have seeds.

LuciferN
10-16-2008, 06:06 PM
Great post, as usual !
I really should do it, but I got a problem... I already killed my male plants, so I only have female plants and clones of these right now... I'll take this as a beginner mistake.

I don't want to hijack you're post but I'll like if you can check the little transplant guide I've made, it may help some new members: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/163566-transplant-clones-quick-guide.html

elskeetro
10-16-2008, 07:53 PM
Awesome! i've been thinking about makin some seeds for a while now.

just a few lame questions for ya...

I've got no males and my ladies are pretty stable. Common sense tells me just to toss a few clones in there on 12/12 and eventually they will herm and toss me a few beans...right?

are those seeds then more likely to herm?

How much attention/maintenance do you give them in this box?

thanks
Skeet.

elskeetro
10-17-2008, 06:03 AM
Bitchin'...

Went to Target this evening to get some household type shit and saw a perfect tub for this box. needless to say... $6.50 and an hour later i had my own breeding box.

Here's a few shots.

I'm using a 3 light fixture with just one bulb for now. I had an old iMac G3 sitting around that i was NEVER going to use so i pulled it apart and snagged the fan from inside. Hooked up a power supply and it's suckin' air like...well...like a fan...

I'm a hydro guy through and through...i have no clue about soil and i'm not about to start. So this will end up being a modified DWC. Probably a kitty litter pan in the bottom with 6" net pots sitting on airstones.

I really love how the box came out. And i love the fact that i can add 2 more bulbs and maybe when i'm done breeding i can have a small stealth tub grow with little modification.

alright...on to the photos.
thanks again stinky. this is so sweet.

Skeet.

1. Box
2. Top
3. Insides
4. all that for one measly fan...

stinkyattic
10-17-2008, 03:01 PM
Dude. Yours is, like, TOTALLY awesomer than mine!
You know that cheap timer you got? Stick several female clones in there. Set it to a fucked up off-on schedule, like 12/12 until inception of flower, then a multiple on-off per day schedule, and wait for nanners. They will come. You will get a generation that is called S1 (first selfed generation) but using multiple individuals, like clones from different from-seed mothers, will give you a bit of diversity.

elskeetro
10-17-2008, 04:08 PM
Haha. thanks for kind words.

I've got a tray full of clones that i was just gonna toss/donate but not anymore!!! can't wait to get home tonight and confuse the shit out of these girls. prepare to see some effed up Northern Lights x Skunk 1 x White Rhino...

If anyone is interested i've attached a pic from Lowes of the light fixture i'm using. You need to attach your own power cord but that's a piece of cake... Get a heavy duty, grounded extension cord (8 feet is more than enough) cut off the female side and strip it down to the 3 wires (Black, white, and Green) then just match them to the wires on the fixture with some wire nuts and electrical tape. EZ.

peace friends,
Skeet.

stinkyattic
10-17-2008, 04:13 PM
IMVHO you should run off backups of each strain individually, or ONE male crossed with females of many strains, so you know who'surdaddy. Big issue with seed backup. If you are forced to do it by herms, just do one strain at a time. If you want to make a known cross, put in the one you want to be pollen donor 2 weeks early and mess up its light schedule until you see nanners, THEN put in the female on a CORRECT light cycle so SHE doesn't flip on ya.

sirshamus
10-18-2008, 12:33 AM
This is dumb, but I take it this breeding box should be kept away from your other girls?

stinkyattic
10-18-2008, 12:41 AM
Definitely, unless you upgrade the filter. The stockings will HELP keep pollen down (I spray mine with SMC, which dries sticky and I assume will trap SOME pollen), but certainly can't be trusted to do a good job of it.

elskeetro
10-18-2008, 12:54 AM
Alrighty. Here we go.

Here's my finished box, up and running. Like i said earlier...it's a "DWC" system. all clones are White Rhino. I'm quite surprised how much air is actually moving in there. they are rustling like mad.

PICS:

1.) 6 net pots, each with a little air stone in the bottom. The Party cups are an attempt to block some light from the roots.

2.) in the system, nutes added, airstones bubblin' like mad.

3.) Box closed and running full blast.

4.) a shot through the fan.

5.) better than any glory hole.

thanks again stinky.
Skeet

stinkyattic
10-18-2008, 01:05 AM
Dag, yo. Cool! Any more light and they'll get too big to finish in the cups FYI!
You are keeping it in an area that is generally dark and unused right? Spare closet, basement, on top of the clothes dryer, ?

I have to say again for everyone just in case:
THIS IS NOT A MICRO GROW BOX! It depends on being kept in a pretty dark unused corner to work right, and isn't meant to give much product.

elskeetro
10-18-2008, 01:49 AM
yeah. All i plan on using is that single 13w CFL and it's about 12 inches away right now.

The pics were taken in my living room but yes, i do plan on moving it to the basement.

Well, i think i'm all set. i'll politely step out of the spot light now and let others take a stab at this technique.

Peace.
Skeet.