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StickyfingahZ
10-16-2008, 01:42 AM
Hey guys,
I am going through this problem,my caregiver recently stopped answrring his phone,and not returning calls or texts......or PM's.
I have the grow site,Would it be wrong for me to show up at the grow site?
I really dont want to,but I just need to know,whats up with this guy.....I know the crops are ready and everything,I have money to help him out with,and although I can move on,I kinda wanna hear it from him whether he is gonna be my caregiver or not.
He kept in touch with me before and we would meet up and he wuold let me knowthe progress and we'd shoot the breeze and all,he tells me when its gonna be ready and sends me pics and now,its like,I can see he has been online so I know he got my PM's......but,he dont respond.I dont understand,mostly cause I felt we were cool,we had a friendship,you know?
I am tempted to roll up there,the only address I have is the grow site. I just feel awkward showing up there,you know?But its been like almost 3 weeks since he has gotten back to me.
killerweed420
10-16-2008, 04:58 PM
If he's your legal caretaker just show up. Its your product not his. But I imagine what is going on is he's selling to other people so his supply maybe low. I'd just go check up on your plants.
You should probably start growing your own. Its the best way.
medigrower
10-16-2008, 05:58 PM
if its legal GO check. i have had people come to me that where FUCKED by old caregivers. safety while they grow and get rid of the shit for more and faster when harvest time comes and they do not answer calls. 3 months of good home grown weed smokin gone. start growin ur self.
stinkyattic
10-16-2008, 06:00 PM
What is the law in your state regarding the patient-caregiver relationship?
If your caregiver is profiting off your card and not even returning your calls, you have every right to revoke his right to use your card. Skeezy bastard. I wouldn't just show up because someone slimy enough to pull that shit might also be slimy enough to fuck with you. Tell him you need to have better communication if he is going to continue to use your card, and then give him a couple days to shape up.
Like a sleeping mastiff, a grower at his grow is a dangerous creature to surprise.
StickyfingahZ
10-16-2008, 06:38 PM
Thanks guys for the repiles,stinky...thats one of the reasons why I kinda didnt wanna go to the grow site,because I didnt want this to get out of hand or anything.Especially since I am not good at confronting people,lol
But yeah,I had to pay money to switch my info onto his card and stuff,so I did follow the rules and we agreed that I would help with the costs of setting up and things he needed,so I have kept what I need to give him on the side for when the time comes. the thought did cross my mind that he may be selling it,I hate having to buy from other people,its so expensive,its $75 for an 1/8 and I would much rather spend money to my caregiver than you know.
ButI think just like killer said,because I seen the plants,and he told me its just about to harvest and now he is just M.I.A. and Im SOL and JWF
Has anyone here ever had to revoke their card from a grower?How much does it cost?
Im leaving to Oregon in about 3 weeks,so I was thinking that if this doesnt work out to just leave it at that,but,I had my hopes up,all the time I been burning I never knew what strain or anything and when he was showing me pics and telling what kind of weed I was stoked.
Weezard
10-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Thanks guys for the repiles,stinky...thats one of the reasons why I kinda didnt wanna go to the grow site,because I didnt want this to get out of hand or anything.Especially since I am not good at confronting people,lol
But yeah,I had to pay money to switch my info onto his card and stuff,so I did follow the rules and we agreed that I would help with the costs of setting up and things he needed,so I have kept what I need to give him on the side for when the time comes. the thought did cross my mind that he may be selling it,I hate having to buy from other people,its so expensive,its $75 for an 1/8 and I would much rather spend money to my caregiver than you know.
ButI think just like killer said,because I seen the plants,and he told me its just about to harvest and now he is just M.I.A. and Im SOL and JWF
Has anyone here ever had to revoke their card from a grower?How much does it cost?
Im leaving to Oregon in about 3 weeks,so I was thinking that if this doesnt work out to just leave it at that,but,I had my hopes up,all the time I been burning I never knew what strain or anything and when he was showing me pics and telling what kind of weed I was stoked.
Not for nothin', but I'd call and leave a message sayin' I was worried and would come to the grow site IF I didn't hear back in a day.
This is harvest season.
Trimming is time and labor. (Also a lot of sticky fingered fun).:smokin:
Proper drying and curing takes time.
On the Kona side it's still a little early for full harvest, but there's always the obligitory "sacrificial limb".
The lame, the halt and the bugbitten to process.
So, your caregiver may be swamped.
Offer to help with the manicuring and you might get an invitation.
In short, your grower is busier than a dog with three balls to lick. Give 'em the benefit of the doubt rather than just "showing up"
Jus' two big shiny pennies.
Weezard
StickyfingahZ
10-17-2008, 02:08 AM
Thanks for the reply weezard,I would love to help out,but,he doesnt answer his phone or return messages or texts or even PM's. At first I was worried that he might have gotten into trouble and cant getto a phone,but,I know he has been online.
Im on Oahu and the weed here is getting too expensive.It would be cool if he called me back or textd me saying he is super busy,or the crop died,but.....he doesnt respond.
It did cross my mind to call and leave a message saying I was gonna go to the grow site,I dont really want to,butI am getting to the point where,I think I would drive down there,Im not looking for a free handout of herb or make trouble or anything.I just would like to know if he is gonna be able to provide me with my meds,if not,I would take the money I had kept to give him and by it off the street.But I dont wanna go and blow a couple hundred dollars only to have him call me and say "it's ready" and I have no money.
stinkyattic
10-17-2008, 02:11 PM
If you suspect abuse of your card, you should go to the issuing agency for information. I can't help any more than that- It's probably an issue that med states are just starting to learn how to deal with; as more people are getting cards, statistically, more people have the chance to abuse them.
StickyfingahZ
10-17-2008, 06:11 PM
If you suspect abuse of your card, you should go to the issuing agency for information. I can't help any more than that- It's probably an issue that med states are just starting to learn how to deal with; as more people are getting cards, statistically, more people have the chance to abuse them.
sounds good,thanks stinky.I'll give him a few more days,I just PM'd him saying I was gonna stop by some time this weekend or next week.I also am gonna text him the same thing.If all fails,I'll just do what stinky said and leave him alone and just hit the street.
StickyfingahZ
10-20-2008, 07:28 PM
just an update of what has happened.
I PM'd him and told him that this was the last message I was gonna sendhim and that I had contacted our doctor(we have the same doctor) and asked to revoke his membership.I got a call from him the next day telling me he had some meds for me.So I went over and met up with him and he told me the crop got mold and spider mites and had to be cut early and there wasnt much.So I ended up getting what looks like(no scale) but it looks like maybe just over 1/8.I felt bad for him,you know.So I gave him some money,not alot since I am gonna need more money to buy some more because this wontlast me till I Move.
I am heading up tor Oregon in about a few weeks.But I am glad and grateful I was able to get some medicine.I was having the worst stomach pains from the prescription pills I was taking while waiting for this.
Thanks everyone for your advice and replies.:thumbsup:
stinkyattic
10-20-2008, 08:04 PM
I think you should have demanded to SEE the evidence that the crop got cut with pests and mold. That is a total BS excuse, and one I actually have used before on people who I didn't want to deal with- I have told one former 'friend' who used to come with the hand out all the time that I had too many mold problems and quit growing. It's a classic.
How does what you got look? Do you see any evidence of mite damage?
StickyfingahZ
10-20-2008, 09:46 PM
It looks cool to me,it didnt look bad or diffrent from weed I have grabbed before,but it smells just AWESOME! A few things didnt really match up with his story,he was telling me, he only had a small amount because the crop got mold and spider mites and then he showed me this small jar that was supposed to be split with me,him and another patient....but I guess I had a really dissappointed look on my face,because he tells me "its super potent"
and I said " really?" and he goes on to tell me about how he smoked with some "O.G Stoners" and they ALL said this stuff,was "Super potent" stuff...Im standing there thinking ...O.G stoners?...dont those guys usually have a high tolerance levels?...and just how much did you smoke out with these O.G Stoners? especially if this was all that he could salvage from the damaged crop? I dunno......maybe he should have at least practised his story before meeting up with me.
I had $300 bucks in my pocket(I was prepared to give it all) but when I saw how much he was giving me,I stuck my hand in my pocket and started dividing my cash,I figured if this guy was gonna dissappoint me,I am just gonna give him what I figured was good,I gave $60 and shook his hand and told him this was the last he would see of me,since Im moving.I figure I dont wanna force someone to do business with me.With my back being as bad as it is,I didnt wanna get into any drama with anyone.I felt bad for the guy,he was just giving me all these excuses for the crop and for not contacting me and they wernt even adding up right.he most likely got the better of it and all,but I believe in karma and what goes around comes around.Im just glad that its done and I have some meds.lol
But hopefully when I get up to the mainland I can find some good caregivers and be on the right track.:jointsmile:
JaySin
10-21-2008, 12:17 AM
Yup, pretty shady. At least it wasn't a total loss. Sucks that you got such a small amount out of it though. Hope you have better luck next time depending on which road you choose to take to provide yourself with meds.
stinkyattic
10-21-2008, 02:44 PM
he goes on to tell me about how he smoked with some "O.G Stoners" and they ALL said this stuff,was "Super potent" stuff...Im standing there thinking ...O.G stoners?...dont those guys usually have a high tolerance levels?...and just how much did you smoke out with these O.G Stoners? The same OG Stoners who are now smoking the rest of YOUR medicine that your SUPPOSED 'caregiver' just sold them? You know the smokeout was a try before you buy deal...
And every time I hear someone talking about OGs I go, "WTF, what do old gangsters have to do with MMJ?!" This dude sounds like a total wannabe G. Get your card back and give it to someone who gives a shit.
StickyfingahZ
10-21-2008, 05:39 PM
The same OG Stoners who are now smoking the rest of YOUR medicine that your SUPPOSED 'caregiver' just sold them? You know the smokeout was a try before you buy deal...
And every time I hear someone talking about OGs I go, "WTF, what do old gangsters have to do with MMJ?!" This dude sounds like a total wannabe G. Get your card back and give it to someone who gives a shit.
EXACTLY,lol........well,all the times I met up with this guy,it seemed super cool,I forgot to mention that after he told me it was Super potent....and I was just staring at the small bag he gave me,he tells me "Sorry its a small amount,but if you need some more weed,I know some guys who can sell you some weed."
and Im thinking WTH?
I do believe that he was holding out on me.I dont know how often this happens to people who have caregivers....but this is a first for me.I would like to learn to grow my own,I just dont have any place to grow...maybe I should spend more time in the growers section.When I get up to Oregon,were looking at a town home and maybe a closet grow is possible....I really need to learn more,I would hate to have this happen twice.
stinkyattic
10-21-2008, 05:48 PM
Save a sample of it and see if his guys have the exact same shit, lol. I think he just ripped you off. I'm sitting here STEAMING that shit makes me so mad!
Yeah come see us in grow. Apartment growing takes a bit of finesse, but it is possible. A medical contact of mine runs a 600 hps grow in the walk-in closet of an EFFICIENCY APARTMENT- you can do it if you plan ahead for your odor control and how you will grow, from clones or seeds, and where you will keep your mothers. If you have a basement in your unit, that is a good place; just design it so that if your heater or HW or washer/dryer need service, the repairman won't be walking through a jungle! Check out some stealth clothes-cabinet grows- a large armoire fitted with good lights and exhaust will provide quite a bit of medicine, for example.
lbballa420
11-12-2008, 11:35 PM
hey i read ur blog and it sounds to me that he ripped you off.. came up with them old and spider bite excuse... bein a grower myself you treat them like babies.... he ripped you im 100 percent
sorry it happened
GoldenGoblin
11-13-2008, 12:29 AM
Yeah after reading this I think he ripped you off and took advantage of your medical status as well. Mold? You almost have to be a noob to figure out how to get that. Mites I can see, but he should have been more on his game... or maybe he was.
Thats pretty sad either way, and you gave him money too. I think the time is probably past to demand to see or compare things, but that really does suck.
StickyfingahZ
11-13-2008, 02:41 AM
yeah,I feel like I got ripped,but no worries,Im Oregon Bound Tomorrow and Hopefully I can hook up over there with some cool folks!
Weezard
11-13-2008, 04:59 AM
yeah,I feel like I got ripped,but no worries,Im Oregon Bound Tomorrow and Hopefully I can hook up over there with some cool folks!
Oregon is chock full of good folks, and great bud.:cool:
No fo'get da Islands tho, Brah.
You gonna miss 'em.
Havna Gutyme Vishnu Voorheer, an' all dat!:jointsmile:
But betta buy a sweata an' some long pants too.
Oregon can get a tad cold:)
A hui hou, Weeze
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