AK47 x Lowrider (1st grow)

[ToPHeR31]

Ok guys so let me check you all up...I planted the germinated seeds about 3 weeks ago and was growing them outside, however since the days are becoming shorter the plants were only receiving about 8-10 hrs of sunlight which isnt enough in the veg stage...so...

I replanted them into smaller containters and put them in a new makeshift grow cabinet...the dimensions are about 2'x1'x3'...

Lighting: 4 - General Electric 26w CFL (6500k)

Soil - Mixture of Miracle Gro Organic potting soil and some Dark organic soil with manure, humus, nitrogen, etc...

Here's a few pics of the current setup...

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http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr47/gawenda31/th_003.jpg
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[ToPHeR31]

Any tips would be appreciated...

Like as far as what kind of veg nute and when should i start applying it? Fox Farm?:thumbsup:

[bririr]

I wouldnt start using nutes until its got its first few sets of true leaves, and then only give it 1/4 or at most a 1/3 of the recomended amount.
How long are you having the lights on?

[ToPHeR31]

Well I think theyre autoflowering so I can leave them on 24/7 right? and is fox farm nutes good?

[Revanche21]

Hold off on nutes till they look like they need some

soil has some nutes in them anyway :)

biggest mistake a 1st timer can make is adding too much nutes or too early for that matter

I am currently experimenting with 12/12 from seed which seems to get great results

If you are aiming for short grow with good yields and are cramped for space I would recommend this method

If you want to make gargantuan plants, not my specialty :)

I'll be watching this thread!

[hahaitsdoogle]

Hold off on nutes till they look like they need some

soil has some nutes in them anyway :)

biggest mistake a 1st timer can make is adding too much nutes or too early for that matter

I am currently experimenting with 12/12 from seed which seems to get great results

If you are aiming for short grow with good yields and are cramped for space I would recommend this method

If you want to make gargantuan plants, not my specialty :)

I'll be watching this thread!

Starting 12/12 how do you tell it when to flower? no lights for a day?

[ToPHeR31]

Im still deciding on what kind of cycles to run...if possible I was just going to do closest to 24/7 as possible...they are lowryder so they wont grow more than 1ft tall anyways...btw that's computer paper on the walls! It does a great job of reflection believe it or not...:thumbsup:

[Revanche21]

I think you can probably get your CFL's a little bit closer maybe 7 or 8 inches from the tops of the plants

well, actually do 10-11 for now and once they are a lil bigger do 7-8 inches

if you start with 12/12 the genotype will determine the flowering

My plants are starting to sex in my grow log in my sig and they are 12/12 from seed

[ToPHeR31]

I bought them all feminized!

[Giro2007]

Most things ive read say that 20/4 is recommended for autoflowers, my second batch of lowryder 2s were on 18/6 and i didnt find it worked as well as the 20/4. Good luck and hope allgoes well.

[ToPHeR31]

Most things ive read say that 20/4 is recommended for autoflowers, my second batch of lowryder 2s were on 18/6 and i didnt find it worked as well as the 20/4. Good luck and hope allgoes well.

Thanks bro im gonna try the 20/4 time then

[ToPHeR31]

Im thinking about adding some more CFLs...maybe like 2 more...should i stay with the 6500K or try the 2700K?

[bririr]

I would recommend getting some more lights.
Id personally use a mixture of 6500k and 2700k, especially if its a auto flower strain, but a lot of people don't agree with having a mixture so read up a little and see whats worked best with them.
Good luck:thumbsup:

[ToPHeR31]

I would recommend getting some more lights.
Id personally use a mixture of 6500k and 2700k, especially if its a auto flower strain, but a lot of people don't agree with having a mixture so read up a little and see whats worked best with them.
Good luck:thumbsup:

I was planning on either replacing all the 6500k with 2700k during flowering...otherwise i can put them outside since its soo humid down here but with winter we only get 8 hours of sunlight...

[ToPHeR31]

Ok did some research and I think Im gonna upgrade to a HPS MH combo light package....either a 250watt or 400watt system...

High Tech Garden Supply (http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=47981)

My setup is 33" x 18 " x 33"....

should i go with the 250 or the 400? They are the same price...

[InspectahEX]

400 would be better but be hotter and take more electricity. 250 should be fine too and less electricity, and not as hot.

[ToPHeR31]

Whats a good hanging device?

[InspectahEX]

hook screws, chains

[ToPHeR31]

Update:
HTGSupply Ultimate 400w HPS & MH Grow Light
4 Sided Horizontal Reflector
Standard 400w HPS Bulb
AgroMax 400 watt MH Conversion Bulb

^---Just bought this hopefully get it in this week!

[bririr]

cool that should do you fine
wish you luck:thumbsup:

[ToPHeR31]

Update...

Ok The new light is installed and everything is good...The temps are not high enough to where I have to worry about ventilation :thumbsup:

I have the MH bulb in and it's only been about 12 hours using it so far...Sorry the pics are poor..I was using my iphone...
http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr47/gawenda31/001-1.jpg
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The little one is looking great, but my other ones look a little yellowish?
Remember they are about 4 weeks old...but they have only been under light for about a week and a half because I was growign them outside previously...

[ToPHeR31]

bump any help?

[5016169]

Can you get some closer pictures? Does your camera have a macro mode for closeups? Can't really see much in those pics.

[ToPHeR31]

Any idea?

[GoldenGraham84]

nitrogen deficiency?

[ToPHeR31]

Im using miracle grow organic potting soil mixed with some local dark soil with hummus, manure, sand, etc... ??

[lunarose]

What size are your pots? they recommend a min of a 5 liter pot for the auto ak-47.

[ToPHeR31]

theyre about 3 gal pots...if anything i think they would be too big for a lowrider..

[lunarose]

The auto ak-47 is suppose to be a larger auto flowering strain. They are suppose to grow up to 2 feet in height with some bushiness. The breeder does recommend 5-7 liter pots to grow them in so 3g shouldn't be a problem. I'm growing my first grow of this strain and mine seem awfully small too mine are three weeks old and maybe 3 inches tall. Did you find that your new light set up made any difference? I am using CFLs on mine.

[metalholic]

Dude go with Fox Farm Nutes. stay away from the miracal grow not good

[the image reaper]

Dude go with Fox Farm Nutes. stay away from the miracal grow not good

check the dates on the threads, this is a pretty old one ... :smokin: