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Chronic Chrissy
10-02-2008, 02:48 PM
12 Reasons to Say "No" to Circumcision
By Tara Bzdok

Circumcision is a very controversial and emotionally charged topic. Even doctors have their personal feelings about the procedure â?? and unfortunately, they do not all agree. A doctor advising circumcision of a healthy infant for any reason is going against the recommendations of the American Medical Assocation (AMA), the American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP), the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), the Canadian Paediatric Society (CPS) and every other medical association in the world.

1. Circumcision removes vital skin structure and function. The foreskin is not just unnecessary skin. It is an important, complex structure that contains an elaborate network of nerve endings, making up about half of the erogenous tissue of the penis. The foreskin's purpose during infancy is to protect the glans (the part of the penis inside the foreskin) from infections from urine and feces. In adulthood, it enhances sexual pleasure due to the intact erogenous tissue and provides lubrication for the man's sexual partner.

2. Circumcision hurts. In a hospital circumcision, a doctor or intern straps the infant onto a board and (usually) injects or applies a topical anesthetic to the area. After forcing the foreskin to separate from the glans, the doctor clamps the foreskin in a plastic ring or clamp and then cuts it off.

When American doctors performing circumcision finally realized that infants had the ability to feel pain (not until 1989!), they began using local anesthesia, which poses toxicity threats if the dose is not right in a tiny infant. Since infants actually feel pain more acutely than adults and general anesthesia is too dangerous for use on infants, the pain is merely "reduced," not eliminated. Studies have shown that babies who do not cry during the procedure may be in a state of shock due to overwhelming pain. The healing process is also very painful, since the wound is constantly in contact with a diaper.

3. No medical organization in the world recommends circumcision. About 18 deaths occur per 100,000 circumcisions, with the rate of complications, including staph infections and even loss of the penis, running about 6 percent. Although the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) leaves the decision to circumcise up to a child's parents, they do state that the procedure is not medically indicated â?? in other words, the "potential benefits" do not outweigh the risks. In the AAP/American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) guidelines for perinatal care, doctors are instructed to provide new parents with "accurate and unbiased information on circumcision," including the fact that it is not recommended and usually including instructions on the care of the uncircumcised penis.

4. Circumcision violates infants' rights. Before deciding on circumcision you may want to consider your son's rights. An article published in Humane Health Care International explains that circumcision of infants is a violation of the seven principles of medical ethics. Following the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child in 1989, the AAP Committee on Bioethics stated that parents have the right to grant permission for diagnosis and treatment, but they do not have the right to decide on elective procedures for their children. These should be postponed until the child is able to choose them for himself. The committee also mentions that parents' rights to force religious practices that could be harmful to the child should be limited. In contrast, the AAP official policy statement allows the parents to make the decision.

In western countries, it goes without saying that female genital mutilation (FGM), a practice common in Islamic nations and Africa, is unethical, cruel and illegal. Any comparison to circumcision of males seems preposterous â?? or does it? Actually, the two procedures stem from similar cultural practices. In its "milder" forms, FGM is no more dangerous than the circumcision of males.

5. Circumcision is traumatic. Neonatal circumcision has been associated with disturbances in maternal bonding, breastfeeding and sleep of the infant. Numerous studies have shown that a person's birth experience can have psychological and emotional effects throughout his or her life. One study shows that circumcised men may have reduced thresholds for pain. In a Canadian study, circumcised boys showed greater pain responses while being vaccinated â?? symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

6. Circumcision rates are declining all over the world. Globally, about 20 percent of men are currently circumcised. America has the highest rate of neonatal circumcision (60 percent) of any Western country, down from 90 percent in the 1970s. Ninety-nine percent of these procedures are not done for religious or therapeutic reasons. The next highest rate of neonatal circumcision is found in Australia at 12 percent, down from 50% in the '70s.

According to the National Center for Health Statistics, circumcision in America has been on a steady decline for the past 25 years and will catch up to the rates of other English-speaking countries in about 12 years. The decline in the rates in English-speaking countries began after an essay published in The British Medical Journal in 1949 declared it medically unnecessary. It was never popular in continental Europe, Russia or South America. Areas with high rates of circumcision include the Middle East, Africa, Islamic regions of Asia, Polynesia, the Philippines and Fiji.

Many Jews in various nations are now performing a non-cutting alternative ceremony to the traditional Brit Malah (circumcision ceremony). They call it Brit Shalom, and even girl children are being honored in this way.

7. Circumcision is expensive. The International Coalition for Genital Integrity claims that each state could save around $1 million a year by not funding circumcision of infants. The 16 states no longer funding the essentially cosmetic procedure are Arizona, California, Florida, Idaho, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, Utah and Washington. Many private insurance companies have also ceased to fund the procedure.

8. Circumcision is not necessary to prevent urinary tract infections (UTIs), which can be treated with antibiotics or breastfeeding. Your doctor may have told you that circumcision is important for preventing urinary tract infections (UTIs). However, UTIs are not serious enough to warrant preventive surgery. UTIs are easily treatable with antibiotics, and studies have shown that breastfeeding is a great for prevention as well as for treatment.

UTIs are only slightly more common (about a 1 percent risk increase) among uncircumcised boys, about 1 in 100 will be affected. They can be prevented by proper hygiene and care of the foreskin and penis.

9. Circumcision's role in reducing cancer rates is negligible, at best. Many studies have linked circumcision to lower rates of penile as well as cervical cancer. The incidence of penile cancer in America is about 1 in 100,000, usually occurring in older men.

According to the AAFP, circumcision has only been shown to reduce the cancer risk by about .2%. Proper hygiene and safe sexual practices are believed to be the most important preventive tool for penile cancer. The American Cancer Society stated in 1996 that circumcision should not be performed to prevent cancer. The main causes of genital cancer are smoking, sex at an early age and unprotected sex with multiple partners.

10. Studies showing that circumcision reduces the risk of contracting AIDS have not been duplicated in the United States. Circumcision has been shown to work miracles by reducing a man's risk of contracting AIDS in studies performed in Africa. If these studies are valid, how is it that America has both the highest circumcision rate of any western country and also the highest AIDS rate? More studies will be concluded in 2007, perhaps shedding some light on this apparent paradox. Circumcision has also been linked to reduced rates of ulcerative sexually transmitted diseases such as syphilis and genital herpes, but the AAFP states that good hygiene and safe sex could be just as effective. If a sexually active, adult male feels that his lifestyle choices warrant the procedure, he may decide to have it done when he is of legal age to make that decision.

11. An uncircumcised penis is easily cared for. It seems that the problems that people blame on foreskins actually stem from improper care of the uncircumcised penis. To quote the AAP, "â?¦ good personal hygiene would offer all the advantages of routine circumcision without the attendant surgical risk." Since the AAP gives no instruction in the matter, many doctors advise parents to force back the foreskin and clean underneath. Actually, the best mode of action is to leave it alone. A soak in a warm bath is all it needs during infancy. As the boy grows, the foreskin will naturally separate from the glans (somewhere between the ages of 3 and 13), and he may then pull it back and clean underneath it with clear water. The full process of separation is usually finished by age 18. Forcing the foreskin back before it is time can cause tearing and scarring, which can lead to phimosis, or a tight foreskin that is difficult to retract and sometimes painful.

12. Sons don't mind if they don't look like their fathers. "Looking like Dad" seems to be the most important reason to circumcise in America â?? but how similar is a tiny, prepubescent penis to Dad's, anyway? Toddlers are smart. Try explaining that everyone is unique and body parts all look different. Tell him that Dad had to have an operation on his penis but now it is okay. After all, you already have to explain why Mom looks different, don't you?

texas grass
10-02-2008, 04:00 PM
nice little read

MPLSweedman
12-13-2008, 06:36 PM
im glad that i am, girls appreciate it too

bobthenuker
02-09-2009, 11:26 PM
Yes...I remember once I was with a girl (born and raised in the US), and she was a bit taken back, because I was uncircumcised, she had told me she had never seen it before...she got over it pretty fast though. On another note, a dear friend of mine, she's a chick, who's a native of my country of Georgia, and has traveled all throughout Europe, tells me that circumcision is considered strange, even an American perversion by many Europeans, and is definitely not the norm. Ahh cultural differences, in any case, all the girls I've ever been with never seemed to mind, given the initial shock of one once, I'm definitely not ashamed of it in any way though, if anything I've always thought of not being circumcised as being a grand European tradition...I could be wrong though, I'm not an expert on the subject. :D

GrinKyle
02-10-2009, 01:02 AM
I am circumcised, I wonder sometimes what it would be like, and how much more sensitive I would be if I wasnt... but what can you do? it really doesnt bug me.

however i remember my mother (hardcore christian nut) talk bad about un-circumcised penises when I was growing up... unhealthy, unclean, gross looking... I laugh now, cause well... shes a christian, and those people are just crazy.

420_24/7
02-10-2009, 01:34 AM
Im so glad I'm not circumcised.
I would hate my parents for making the decision to significantly lessen my own possible sexual pleasure without my consent.
I mean really, who would give consent to have their genitals mutilated and permenantly altered. It's unnatural.

DTRave420
02-10-2009, 02:44 AM
I just read Chronic Chrissy's thread with my hands clasped together in between my tightly closed thighs...I used to sit in the same position when they would do news casts of the Bobbit case...:eek:

apocolips31
02-10-2009, 03:12 AM
Still glad I am circumcised.

DTRave420
02-10-2009, 03:27 AM
I'm happy being circumcised as well...

RamblerGambler
02-10-2009, 04:12 AM
Let's hear it for keeping the covenant with Abraham

bobthenuker
02-10-2009, 07:00 PM
Im so glad I'm not circumcised.
I would hate my parents for making the decision to significantly lessen my own possible sexual pleasure without my consent.

Yea man, I notice that (without getting into too much detail) whenever the head of my penis is touched it feels way more sensuous and pleasing with the foreskin than if the skin is rolled back. When it's rolled back it just feels somehow less stimulating and sensual. I would definitely not be happy if I was to be deprived of that feeling since I could feel what the difference is. But hey, you could go either way when you're not circumcised :thumbsup:. This whole subject just makes me laugh :D

KindMidasSoundman
02-10-2009, 09:18 PM
I am happy to be circumcised and I am sure my Wife is too

the image reaper
02-10-2009, 09:39 PM
my neighbor's baby boy was facing blindness, because he was born without eyelids ... nurses had to place eye drops in for him, 'round the clock ... a genius plastic surgeon managed to fabricate new eyelids, with skin from the boy's circumcision ... the operation was a success !!!, the new eyelids saved his overall vision, (but, he'll always be a little 'cock-eyed') :S2:

RamblerGambler
02-10-2009, 10:46 PM
but, he'll always be a little 'cock-eyed':S2:

HAHAHAHAHAHA:S2:

mjmomma
02-11-2009, 03:39 AM
I am happy to be circumcised and I am sure my Wife is too

As the aforementioned wife: I must agree. I like my Hubby's clean cut cock, sorry. And as a woman approaching middle age, I've heard all of my girlfriends stories about their lovers and guess what?
I've NEVER heard of a man being self conscious or regretful about being circumcised. However: I have heard of more than one man wishing he was snipped, but too old to do anything about it.

For hygiene reasons (i.e. diaper rash, dirty diapers in general), our son is circumcised. Hell: cut the whole thing off for all I care. I wanted a girl anyway. :icon220:

420_24/7
02-11-2009, 04:22 AM
As the aforementioned wife: I must agree. I like my Hubby's clean cut cock, sorry. And as a woman approaching middle age, I've heard all of my girlfriends stories about their lovers and guess what?
I've NEVER heard of a man being self conscious or regretful about being circumcised. However: I have heard of more than one man wishing he was snipped, but too old to do anything about it.

For hygiene reasons (i.e. diaper rash, dirty diapers in general), our son is circumcised. Hell: cut the whole thing off for all I care. I wanted a girl anyway. :icon220:

I don't think you're ever too old to get circumcised. In fact it's something that should be done when the circumcisee is old enough to give informed consent on the matter.
The only reason a guy would be self conscious of being uncut is that they were raised in a society that glorifies to circumcised penis, and makes it appear as though it is the norm. The truth is, the large majority of men in the world are uncircumcised.
Anyway there's no reason any man should be ashamed of his penis, no matter how much extra skin it has.

All men should stand tall, proud, and erect.

bobthenuker
02-11-2009, 04:38 AM
I don't think you're ever too old to get circumcised. In fact it's something that should be done when the circumcisee is old enough to give informed consent on the matter.
The only reason a guy would be self conscious of being uncut is that they were raised in a society that glorifies to circumcised penis, and makes it appear as though it is the norm. The truth is, the large majority of men in the world are uncircumcised.
Anyway there's no reason any man should be ashamed of his penis, no matter how much extra skin it has.

All men should stand tall, proud, and erect.

Yea man, I was watching some show quite a while ago, I think it was niptuck...is that the correct name? Anywho, some dude drank some wine and cut off his foreskin, because of social pressure from the ladies I guess? But I think you're right, it is, well I don't want to say glorified, but is the norm in America. One thing I never got was the religious aspect behind it, I mean I know all jews do it, and muslims, but I never thought it was a Christian thing really. My mom is as devout Christian as they come, named me after a saint, had me baptized and all that, but she never had me circumcised. Maybe because we're Orthodox, or maybe because for Christians it really doesn't matter like it does for Jews.

mjmomma
02-11-2009, 04:58 AM
I do view this topic as a hygiene issue, not a religious issue, we also chose to circumcise our son b/c my husband is as well. It's a cultural issue if anything. True: most men throughout the world are NOT snipped, therefore verifying my theory that this is simply a cultural issue. Our child is an "only", and when he was born we were advised to circumcise him for cleanliness. We didn't know any better, and we never had hygiene problems when he was in diapers. (in all fairness: this could be a coincidence, I have nothing to compare it to.)

What's the big deal, anyway? The spirituality of true love-making totally surpasses any physical sensation. It's just a dick.
It doesn't affect the quality of life, or does it?

I will end on this note: I've never seen an uncut dildo. :wtf:

Chronic Chrissy
02-28-2009, 01:04 AM
Pregnant with #2 6 months and it's a boy! No way in hell am I doing something that barbaric to my child. I didn't circumsise the girl so why would I the boy. What a horrible way to start life. Plus the horomones that are secreted in the brain due to the pain and stress actually change it's structure and does a lot of damage!

the image reaper
02-28-2009, 07:20 PM
ahhh, hell ... don't be shy, whack that sucker offa there ! (just a trim, around the edges) :chainsaw:

Breukelen advocaat
02-28-2009, 11:11 PM
What's the big deal, anyway? The spirituality of true love-making totally surpasses any physical sensation. It's just a dick.
Your experience is not universal, and sex is not "spiritual" for everyone.

It doesn't affect the quality of life, or does it?
Thousands of nerve endings are cut off. Men who were circumsized as infants don't know any different. Many men who have had foreskin restoration, by surgery or skin expansion, say that there is a noticable increase in sensation - but this is still not as good as the original equipment supplied by nature.

I will end on this note: I've never seen an uncut dildo. :wtf:
Maybe women whose men are uncut don't need dildos. :cool:


A child should be left intact. If he decides to have his genitals mutilated, that's his decision to make when he is older. It's not your body, it's his.

It is eventually going to go out of fasion when the insurance companies stop paying for routine infant circumcision. This is exactly what happened in England decades ago.

the image reaper
02-28-2009, 11:25 PM
you know, in all seriousness, it's always fascinated me, that God instructed the Jews to circumcise the male babies "on the 8th Day" .... then, Man, in all his supposed wisdom, discovered that the human body has it's highest levels of Vitamin K (the blood-clotting vitamin), on the 8th Day of human life ... only took us 2,000 years to discover what our Maker, knew all along :)

Breukelen advocaat
02-28-2009, 11:44 PM
Circumcision, Talmud Style

Mezizah (the practice of orally sucking the bleeding penis with the mouth) is not outmoded or discarded. The photos below were published by the Jerusalem Post Magazine. We have reason to believe the practice has become more frequent since then.
http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/mohel-1a.jpg http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br-smc/mohel-1b.jpgâ?? Jerusalem Post Magazine, November 5, 1976
Circumcision, Talmud Style (http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/br_4.html)

MPLSweedman
03-01-2009, 12:52 AM
im glad i am circumcized, id probably get it done if i wasnt, it looks awful and girls hate it

bobthenuker
03-01-2009, 03:08 AM
im glad i am circumcized, id probably get it done if i wasnt, it looks awful and girls hate it

Another profound comment as always, Captain America. :thumbsup:

I'm glad you're circumcised too, you're not cool enough for our club! :S2:

Breukelen advocaat
03-01-2009, 03:09 AM
im glad i am circumcized, id probably get it done if i wasnt, it looks awful and girls hate it
Those girls aren't worth it, lol, circumsized or not.

bobthenuker
03-01-2009, 03:14 AM
^^ Damn advocaat, I thought my comment was deleted right after I posted it. First I thought "damn those moderators work fast" and then "why the fuck did they delete my comment." But then I realized you posted like 10 seconds after me. Ah the mind of a stoner...just got back from a little :joint1:

Breukelen advocaat
03-01-2009, 03:36 AM
I wasn't stoned, and haven't been for a while, but didn't see your comment before I had already posted.:thumbsup:

MPLSweedman
03-02-2009, 05:03 AM
im sorry but mothers deciding for their sons what's best for their penises is just stupid

like someone said before, ive NEVER heard anyone say oh i wish i wasnt circumcised, its always the other way around

bobthenuker
03-02-2009, 05:47 AM
im sorry but mothers deciding for their sons what's best for their penises is just stupid

like someone said before, ive NEVER heard anyone say oh i wish i wasnt circumcised, its always the other way around

What's best? How so? The vast majority of humans have gone for hundreds of years without getting circumcised, and I'll bet you that the vast majority of men alive today are not circumcised, so how exactly is getting circumcised what's best? There is no hard medical proof to support that being circumcised is healthier than being not, or vice versa. So please enlighten us all, provide us with a profundity, though I doubt you could.

Tsk, tsk...empty words will not get you far in life buddy. :thumbsup:

And by the way, anyone who wishes they were circumcised could just go do it...no need for wishing :cool:

fasts102376
03-02-2009, 08:52 AM
my neighbor's baby boy was facing blindness, because he was born without eyelids ... nurses had to place eye drops in for him, 'round the clock ... a genius plastic surgeon managed to fabricate new eyelids, with skin from the boy's circumcision ... the operation was a success !!!, the new eyelids saved his overall vision, (but, he'll always be a little 'cock-eyed') :S2:

lmao!! you aint right:giggity::giggity:

Chronic Chrissy
03-02-2009, 07:33 PM
you know, in all seriousness, it's always fascinated me, that God instructed the Jews to circumcise the male babies "on the 8th Day" .... then, Man, in all his supposed wisdom, discovered that the human body has it's highest levels of Vitamin K (the blood-clotting vitamin), on the 8th Day of human life ... only took us 2,000 years to discover what our Maker, knew all along :)

Not that I'm much of a religeous person but didn't God make man in his own image? So if God were a male he would be intact. Also if God wanted men to not have a part of their body why would he include it in his design?

Chronic Chrissy
03-02-2009, 07:50 PM
IF Parents choose to slice the tip of their sons penis off they should be there in the room while it happens and should live with the nightmeres of their childs torture. So many argue "He won't remember it anyways" which is true, he will just be imprinted and always carry the pains of his torture, he just won't know where it stems from, but the secondary effects will still very much be carried with him his whole life.

As for all the men "who wish they had had it done" go do it! Aside from the fact that the only reason you want it done is for your own personal insecurities and societies ability to dictate the "norm" it is your choice and is really much safer when preformed as an adult or at least once the foreskin has separated from the glans naturally if it is going to. Not to mention you are better able to care for it and prevent seriouse infection that could cause you to lose your penis. At least you can excrete into the toilet and let healing oxygen get to it to prevent it from healing into a unine, and meconium soaked diaper, and never let to see the light of day or some good fresh air to let it heal well.

What really appals me is the fact that so many Doctors are spreading lies on outdated information regaurding penis care in general. For instance and doctor that tell you to "work on separating the foreskin from the glans" at any age is saying the same thing as a doctor who would tell a woman to rip her nails out of their beds to remove acrylic nails. Also the misconception that "the foreskin can sometimes never expand large enough to allow the glans to immerge even later in life and can cause problems" is so ill educated since some penises are never ment to be that exposed and still function just as well as any other uncirc'ed penis.

420_24/7
03-02-2009, 10:50 PM
im sorry but mothers deciding for their sons what's best for their penises is just stupid

like someone said before, ive NEVER heard anyone say oh i wish i wasnt circumcised, its always the other way around

It seems like you're contradicting yourself here.

If a mother shouldn't dictate what happens to her son's penis, she should not have him circumcised so that he can decide for himself later in life which way he would rather be.

So in your first statement you seem against circumcision (at least in newborns), but in your second statement you seem for it.

Also just because you have never heard anyone say that they'd rather be uncircumcised doesn't mean that no one feels this way. I have in fact read a post on this website by a male who had been circumcised that says he wishes his parents would not have had him circumcised because it is a violation of his rights as a person, and it is very much so.

funkprincess
09-04-2009, 02:33 AM
Amen. Loved this post. Very informative and so true.

the image reaper
09-04-2009, 05:04 PM
Not that I'm much of a religeous person but didn't God make man in his own image? So if God were a male he would be intact. Also if God wanted men to not have a part of their body why would he include it in his design?

because, HE said so :) ... it's in the Bible, it was a sign of God's commitment to Man ... we only gave up a tiny piece of skin, God gave up His only Son, not a bad trade :chainsaw: :)

Mississippi Steve
09-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Having been there, done that..... Its a whole lot easier and safer to have it done as an infant, than it is for an adult. the infant also doesn't have to worry about getting hard and ripping the stitches out then having to have it re-done.

You can do what you want... but if I could father anymore children, any male children of mine would be done as soon as possible after birth.

I don't recommend getting it done as an adult. BTW.... for those of you who got snipped as an infant, consider yourself very fortunate.

420_24/7
09-04-2009, 07:05 PM
Having been there, done that..... Its a whole lot easier and safer to have it done as an infant, than it is for an adult. the infant also doesn't have to worry about getting hard and ripping the stitches out then having to have it re-done.

You can do what you want... but if I could father anymore children, any male children of mine would be done as soon as possible after birth.

I don't recommend getting it done as an adult. BTW.... for those of you who got snipped as an infant, consider yourself very fortunate.

If you don't mind me asking. Why would you ever want to have such a procedure done? Was there some medical issue or did you just not like being uncircumcised. Also being one of few who can really compare between uncut and cut from personal experience, what benefits are there for either side. Sorry if it's kind of personal, it's just a debate that I feel strongly about.

the image reaper
09-04-2009, 08:07 PM
my brother-in-law had his snipped, when he was in his late 30's ... that guy SUFFERED, too :wtf: ... don't know why he did it, my sis said it was all his idea, wasn't hers ...

dirtnap411
09-04-2009, 10:25 PM
My wife and I chose to keep our son intact, not because of religious ot hygenic reasons, but the fact that we couldn't afford it, but we also didn't see it as necissary.

the image reaper
09-04-2009, 11:42 PM
My wife and I chose to keep our son intact, not because of religious ot hygenic reasons, but the fact that we couldn't afford it, but we also didn't see it as necissary.

not always expensive ... a friend asked his doctor, why the circumcision bill was so cheap ... the doctor explained "my wife takes the leftover foreskins, and makes crafts projects with them , she makes a wallet from a few foreskins, and sells them for thousands of dollars, we pass the profit, on to the patients !" ... my friend asked, if thousands of dollars wasn't too much to charge for a wallet, the doctor replied "these aren't ordinary wallets, remember ... if you rub it a few times, it turns into a suitcase !" ... :S2:

GaGrown
09-15-2009, 10:49 AM
because, HE said so :) ... it's in the Bible, it was a sign of God's commitment to Man ... we only gave up a tiny piece of skin, God gave up His only Son, not a bad trade :chainsaw: :)


Being from the Bible Belt.. I have to say well said!:thumbsup:

Ga Grown!

sarah louise
09-15-2009, 12:58 PM
my neighbor's baby boy was facing blindness, because he was born without eyelids ... nurses had to place eye drops in for him, 'round the clock ... a genius plastic surgeon managed to fabricate new eyelids, with skin from the boy's circumcision ... the operation was a success !!!, the new eyelids saved his overall vision, (but, he'll always be a little 'cock-eyed') :S2:

But just think of the foresight he will have....

PooKazoo
11-17-2009, 03:34 AM
The surgeon messed up mine, I am pretty much half circumcised, and half not.
lol :wtf:

RedLocks
11-19-2009, 01:01 AM
Oprah must have had an episode on this last year or something, it was all the rage for a minute, remembered hearing about it a couple times back when this was posted. Anyways, I'll add my two cents on the topic, I got 3 lil guys, and they all got clipped, and while I feel bad for them since they are upset about the whole situation that day after the procedure on top of male genitalia injuries make and dude cringe at the thought... I would have my next son clipped too

Islandborn
11-19-2009, 01:38 AM
Next time your sitting at the bar with some women....ask them which they prefer....

In the words of Elaine from Seinfeld....OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!

wingedson
11-19-2009, 02:32 AM
Next time your sitting at the bar with some women....ask them which they prefer....

In the words of Elaine from Seinfeld....OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!

LOL, I just watched "The Bris" last night. I am stoked my Mom decided not to give me the 'ol chop-chop. Pop's wanted it, for the sake of following the norm, and my Mom viewed it as butchery. They remove the Frenulem for Gawd's sake!!!! That's the F-Spot!

Alantae
10-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Wow, now that you speak of it that way, there seems to be quite a bit of logic behind circumcision.

And uncircumcised penises look a little nasty (no homo), plus your chances of getting HIV is reduced by up to 60% if you are "snipped" glad I got "cut"