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Smudgeyboy
09-19-2008, 10:18 AM
Hope nobody minds, but that Chemtrail thread isnt much help to anyone! A lot of uninformed opinions.

Im sad to say, from what I can tell, there are two types of lines in our skies. There are contrails from normal plane exhaust and what have been called 'chemtrails'.

The Facts on regular Contrails.
Contrails are mostly water vapour
Contrails are usually thin lines that disperse and become invisible within minutes
Contrails are usually single lines in the sky, though this depends on plane
Contrails leave no mark on the sky
Contrails are safe for our atmosphere
Contrails never cross paths, this is due to how planes are directed and how quickly a contrail dissapears.

The Facts on man-made Chemtrails
Chemtrails spread into cloud cover and sometimes has fallout (cob-web like filaments, red/yellow powders, milky-white fluid).
Chemtrails are usually spread in grid-like structures, these spread out across the sky, depending on wind, and usually cover a sky within 3-4 hours.
Chemtrail effected areas show high levels of barium, boron, aluminium and silica among other substances that are harmful to breathe in.
Chemtrails do not dissapear, this is because, unlike contrails, they are not mostly water vapour.
Chemtrails, more often than not, cross paths

Video footage of regular, safe Contrail
1. YouTube - Normal Contrail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBO2BmbZhHg)

This should be a normal sight for ye, no need to show more.

Video footage of accused Chemtrails
1. YouTube - Chemtrail Assault on Las Vegas - Feb. 27, 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWoFJ3yVEME&feature=related)

2. YouTube - Chemtrails Over Athlone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupSTJ7CSm4)
3. YouTube - CHEMTRAILS (compelling footage) PART 2/4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tri3y0lPJs4)
4. YouTube - Chemtrails over Dublin, Ireland, 2007. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7be0eE__yxs) - Photographic evidence over Dublin, Ireland for a year.

5. YouTube - Grid Lines In The Sky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA6-nB2N2Ng)


Video comparisons between the two

YouTube - Chemtrails vs Contrails (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEFITGpXwZk)
YouTube - A Comparison: Chemtrail versus Contrail (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrN3QPnQUqo&feature=related)


So now we can see, if chemtrails were in anyway similar to contrails, they would act similarly and have similar results.

I have never seen for myself who is doing this, I just know itâ??s being done. Ive seen it many times with my own eyes.

Realising this is true it the first step to making it stop. It is dangerous.

But keep your head up :rastasmoke:

Sega420
09-27-2008, 11:16 PM
Thank fuck we have informed minds such as yourself kickin' about.
More people need to be told.

The economies wordlwide, collapsing.
All this Gardasil shit.
Chemtrails.
FEMA camps, etc...
Socialistic Laws coming in.



Shit is connected, people!
OPEN YOUR EYES.....



Peace,
The one and only Sega420

:rastasmoke:

Highimpact1
09-29-2008, 05:57 AM
Guys these aren't chemtrails. They are formed through the injection of water vapor into the atmosphere by exhaust fumes from a jet engine. If there is sufficient mixing between the cold upper tropospheric air and the hot exhaust gases to produce a state of saturation, ice crystals will develop. Like clouds. there is absolutely nothing harmful about these clouds.

Stoner Shadow Wolf
09-29-2008, 12:05 PM
Thank fuck we have informed minds such as yourself kickin' about.
More people need to be told.

The economies wordlwide, collapsing.
All this Gardasil shit.
Chemtrails.
FEMA camps, etc...
Socialistic Laws coming in.



Shit is connected, people!
OPEN YOUR EYES.....



Peace,
The one and only Sega420

:rastasmoke:

We ARE the people! WE, the people of cannabis.com are the PEOPLE of the world! LET US BAND TOGETHER FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!!


omit fuck and insert something that might inspire you to stop waiting for someone else to fix the problem.


WE US, ALL OF US, MUST work together. STOP relying on the super market, START growing your own food, START helpping each other out, and
STOP RELYING ON CURRENCY!!!!11!11!!!11!shift+1!!!!




Misery Loves company, so let's all be miserable and Love each other.



Just stop it, please. we need to become tribal again. let us bring back the community life, and put an end to this elitist "get ahead of everyone else" BULLCRAP.

Smudgeyboy
10-01-2008, 10:16 AM
Haha, that's the spirit Shadow Stoner,

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!! VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!!

We are one, so put down the gun and have some fun, smudge is freestyling with more holy influence than a fucking nun. Haha, hiiiiiiigh :)


If you would like to learn more on these check out carnicon.com (http://www.Carnicon.com) and watch the documentary Aerosol Crimes, it's online for free on Youtube/Google Videos.

partcleguy
10-05-2008, 04:28 PM
Alright, which is simpler? The government is exposing its own citizens to various chemicals by spraying them out of jet engines in an incredibly inefficient manner, leaving the chemicals to travel randomly by wind without any control whatsoever as to who or what the chemicals affect, or "chemtrails" are simply a thermodynamic result of (as highimpact said) spraying hot exhaust in a cold environment. Hey what happened the last time you had a shower? Did your mirror fog up? Hey, that's condensation from the hot water vapor on your cold mirror! Oh wait, those form clouds in the sky! That's probably the reason why "chemtrails" do not disappear.

As a scientist, I know you never perform an experiment without having a hypothesis and control. What is their control here? I mean, its possible they spray chemtrails in some select cities but not in others, but there are many, many people claiming to have seen them in many cities. If the conspiracy is big enough that you have to say the program is just too big to comprehend, its probably just a pattern in the mist- the brain is excellent at picking out patterns, and we often pick out these patterns in random nonsense.

But hey, this is America, go toke up and believe what you will, as long as you don't impose those beliefs on others (too bad it never works that way)

Peruvian Devil
10-07-2008, 04:35 AM
http://boards.cannabis.com/conspiracy/157307-explain-one.html been there done that

Gandalf_The_Grey
10-07-2008, 04:18 PM
There's a kookie old lady in my old (small) hometown who has been writing about chemtrails in the local paper for years. The problem with most of these theories; moonlandings, chemtrails, crop-circles etc, is that folk hear one long and compelling argument followed by a "My God, that proves it!", when it should be followed by a "damn, that seems to prove it, can I find arguments to the contrary?"

Look at the Fox special on the moonlanding being faked. It's really well presented, it's VERY convincing, and tons of people have watched it gone "OMG! That's indisputable!" But there are those of us who actually researched further, checked the counter arguments and, sure enough, they can blow Fox and their bullshit away.

DontPush
10-12-2008, 06:15 AM
There's a kookie old lady in my old (small) hometown who has been writing about chemtrails in the local paper for years. The problem with most of these theories; moonlandings, chemtrails, crop-circles etc, is that folk hear one long and compelling argument followed by a "My God, that proves it!", when it should be followed by a "damn, that seems to prove it, can I find arguments to the contrary?"

Look at the Fox special on the moonlanding being faked. It's really well presented, it's VERY convincing, and tons of people have watched it gone "OMG! That's indisputable!" But there are those of us who actually researched further, checked the counter arguments and, sure enough, they can blow Fox and their bullshit away.

You should stay on the topic, what's being discussed is chemtrails not the moon landing. Your broad, all or nothing thinking about conspiracies is faulty. There are conspiracies that are admitted & historical fact such as Gulf of Tonkin incident, Iran Contra and Operation Gladio to name a few.

In response to the topic here's some pretty definitive proof for chemtrails:

Newscast's Chemtrail Investigation Reveals Dangerous Aerosolized Compounds (http://www.jonesreport.com/article/01_08/080108_chemtrails.html)

Also the government is now starting to admit it:

U.S. Government Scientists Geo-Engineer Atmosphere (http://www.infowars.com/?p=4345)

Those are from Alex Jones affiliated websites, so some misguided people (who are sometimes referred to as 'sheeple') may say "that automatically means that it's fake", even though Alex Jones' sites have a far better track record of accuracy than the evening news. But in the articles there are hyperlinks to a mainstream news report in the first one & government sources in the second.

Delta9 UK
10-20-2008, 08:56 PM
What Gandalf said

I'm with Gandalf on this one, I would be more worried about antibiotics in food and what the USDA is up to than stress about this stuff.

Spraying anything up there, with gulfstream winds topping 400kmh is not gong to land on anyone observing them. It is such an unpredictable way of applying an agent of this type as to be not worth considering. It would bt MUCH easier to affect the water supply or food supply with your agent of choice. Spraying up there could cause fallout thousands of miles away, with unpredictable results.

I studied biological weapons deployment at uni as part of my degree (my final year dissertation as it happens) focusing primarily on bacteriological agents, so this isn't just something I'm pulling out of my ass, I do find it very hard to believe this is some sort of mass spraying attempt to infect everyone with some sort of agent.

Just my 2 cents as you chaps like to say ;)