growing in a rental home

[Testament]

Hey everyone.

Im currently shopping around for a house to live and grow in for about 6 months. Its going to be in a very small southern town, so police arent much of a concern, but I was wondering if anyone has experience in renting out a home to grow in.

I plan on changing the locks to the grow room obv, and taking extra smell precautions, but I was just wondering what everyone's .02 on this is, and if they had any advice / personal experience.

I was initially going to just grow in my apartment, but decided it was a bad idea on many levels. I cant afford a house, so I feel renting is the next best thing.

man i wish i could afford to live in humboldt.


advice?

[Dutch Pimp]

...growing in rental property?....bad ju-ju juana...IMO.

[SouthernGuerilla]

don't do it!

[the image reaper]

not cool, unless your landlord gave you permission ... also, the landlord has legal right to demand copies of your new door keys, and access to your home, in case of emergency (to see if water is leaking, gas on, etc.) ... :smokin:

[illnillinois]

If you live in a state its legal in, and you have a card, stay with-in states conditions, and keep your shit clean. Then i'd say its cool either way, with or without landlords permission.
Its Johnny Law you dont want to get tied up with. Whats a lease or a contract! fuck that noise. If you cant answer yes to other the above IMO's then NO dont grow in a rental.. FUCK that shit. Even with cool landlords, its a rental and you never know what the landlord would do if HE/SHE got in a serious pinch themselves for ANYTHING, DUI, HIT and RUN, shit anything can happen.

Warning!
IMO

[Mississippi Steve]

small southern town?? I live in a town of 2200ppl in rural south Mississippi. I would highly recommend against renting a house to grow in... you will have the same restrictions and problems that you do in an apartment, with the addition of nosey neighbors.

*IF* you really want to do this, then you need to be looking at maybe finding a trailer on some land out in the county to buy, then you can build a grow shed with no problem.

Just make sure that you don't have a lot of folks coming and going all the time... thats a big red flagfor the cops that there is something going on. The notes on a trailer that sits on a couple of acres should be the same or less than what your paying for rent, and there is something to be said for ownership. If you do opt for buying a place... make sure that you get it on a *FIXED RATE* mortgage.

My .02

[Testament]

well, my main concern was that the landlord may check up on the house every once in a while. but i am not sure how that works, since i've never rented a home.

I also know that a lot of homeowners rent out homes while they are out of state, just to have their mortgage paid for them, and they don't come unannounced to snoop in their tenant's home. anyways, thanks for the replies, keep em comin!!

:jointsmile:

[FlyGuyOU]

talk to the landlord before you sign anything. my landlord will not come into our house unless we call and explicatly ask him to stop over, even then he parks in the driveway and calls our cell phone before knocking on the door, REALLY awesome guy.

other landlords have stoppen in unannounced to spray for bugs and whatnot.

if you have a person like that, you might want to find a better place.

[Testament]

^ yeah....thats what I was thinking.....I'm just not sure how I am going to go about discussing privacy and everything in an innocent way.....i'm sure it will present itself one way or another. I was thinking of saying I was going to have a sick / elderly family member living with me and that she needs extra privacy or something like that. Or I just have to make it a point to find one with an out of town owner....I'm not worried about them coming to the house, I just don't want them going in that one room.

[SouthernGuerilla]

^ yeah....thats what I was thinking.....I'm just not sure how I am going to go about discussing privacy and everything in an innocent way.....i'm sure it will present itself one way or another. I was thinking of saying I was going to have a sick / elderly family member living with me and that she needs extra privacy or something like that. Or I just have to make it a point to find one with an out of town owner....I'm not worried about them coming to the house, I just don't want them going in that one room.

Tell them you like to walk around in the nude when at home, have lots of girlfriends or something of a sort.

But either way you can't have the landlord / homeowner come visiting with an illegal grow op in THEIR house that you're RENTING. It's easier for them to call the fuzz so that they don't have their house taken cause they knew of it or whatever.

You might want to repost this question in the Legal section if you're still pondering the idea.

[JersHaze]

There is certainly ways to do that. PM me, not sure how to on this site. Can tell you a lot about that situation.

Jer

[Forwhat420]

#1 Always good to find an "out of towner" landlord...I have seen mine 3 times in 5 years. Always has called 24 hours prior if not a week to two weeks in advance before coming. To do this simply ask the prospective landlord "so where are you living now." If they say around the corner then probably not a good idea!!

#2 Usually landlords respect their tenants privacy, if you keep that type of relationship. Make sure that the landlord does not use the property as his personal storage space, or store anything there for that matter!!

#3 Keep your property clean as a whistle,, inside and out..And dont go making holes all over when hanging up your lights!!!

#4 Find a property prefereably out in the country on some acres and invest in great carbon scrubbers.


People always freak out over growing on a rental property but can't they take your house if you are caught growing in it??? I would rather burn a bridge with a landlord than get my hard earned home taken!!!

You should be fine if you follow these rules. It has worked for me..

[stinkyattic]

Good advice in this thread.
Rent your home and live there for a while to get a sense for things BEFORE you set up your grow. How are your relationships with neighbors and landlord? Does anyone seem overly interested in you? Does the landlord visit often? Does your Mom want to stop over for tea and to see her baby's new house?
Once it quiets down into a routine, THEN think about how to arrange things.

Find a place with a cellar.... REALLY. Visitors are unlikely to want to go see your furnace, but might be suspicious if you refuse to show them your 'home office' that stays locked at all times.

[Testament]

thanks for all the help guys!


it really makes a frustrating overall process a lot easier when people constantly post up suggestions and help.

knowing that everyone else was in my shoes at one point is a great motivator ;-)

[caligrown82807]

just grow in ur apartment if ur legal,no problem make it small then bubble up like 7-up....

[flyingimam]

if u live in a state where there is no programs for MMJ, and if i was u, i would never ever ever risk growing in any kind of rental unit, no matter what!

remember that rental unit is NOT YOUR property, so certain things change in relation with privacy.

however as for properly papered MMJ patients and states, i think others above gave u enough info or can give u more if needed, i live in a stone-age state in regards to anything concerning marijuana!!

[Testament]

I dont have the resources to move to humboldt ;-o


My "dream" is to move there after I finish my 2nd grow, and do it legally.

[stinkyattic]

I feel the need to mention that in a small town, police are MORE of an issue than they are when you have the anonymity of a larger city, or a town where the local cops are happily busy chasing 'those dang kids smokin those funny cigarettes behind the gas station'. Having lived in small towns, and grown to LOATHE it, people are NOSY with a capital everything. Give me a big town with an active community of cool people any day... be known when you want, and vanish when you don't.

[polaskyparty]

hey I know the feeling of living in a rental and wanting to grow. It is hard but not impossible. You might want just to grow a small amount in a lockable portable grow cabinet

[Testament]

I feel the need to mention that in a small town, police are MORE of an issue than they are when you have the anonymity of a larger city, or a town where the local cops are happily busy chasing 'those dang kids smokin those funny cigarettes behind the gas station'. Having lived in small towns, and grown to LOATHE it, people are NOSY with a capital everything. Give me a big town with an active community of cool people any day... be known when you want, and vanish when you don't.

good ass point stinky ;-P


all of me neighbors in my apartment complex in alabama sat on their porches all day and stared at us whenever we left the house like we were axe murderers or something, lol. in a bigger town, like where I am in south fla right now, no one even acknowledges you when you walk by them, much less pay attention to anything about you. everyone is all wrapped up in their own bs out here..


but the rent in those rural areas is like, $500 a month for a fenced in home. 500 a month out here is a one way ticket to a 1 way efficiency in the projects or ghetto.

[Testament]

hey I know the feeling of living in a rental and wanting to grow. It is hard but not impossible. You might want just to grow a small amount in a lockable portable grow cabinet

ahhhhhhh i know I know ....... but I have this go big or go home thing about my personality and it's not helping me keep the grow small ;-o

I just feel that if I plan it properly, and carry it out with the high level of discipline required to succeed, it will pay off that way I want it to.

[FlyGuyOU]

ahhhhhhh i know I know ....... but I have this go big or go home thing about my personality and it's not helping me keep the grow small ;-o



yeah but won't you already be home?>?

[Testament]

lol yah good point

[flyingimam]

not to discourage u or anything

just remember the law is far more willing to bust u, than u r smart to avoid them

im just sayin it, that the slightest mistake can be disastrous, so make sure whatever detailed plan u have, u have tested it from pov of law to be a smart one, treat your own plan as u were cop trying to bust u and see if your plan wins

[d4twamp]

stinky took the words outta my mouth..if your in a small town, more nosy people. ABSENTEE LANDLORD is what your lookin for. but I'd still be careful growing in someone else's house.
Is the cost of the house itself part of your budget. I'd go w/ a hydro grow, you can build it yourself for so much less $.
did I hear you say you have $3.5k to invest in your operation but you wouldn't be able to afford nutes for a hydro grow . that's absurd, specially if you plan on making money off of your grow to make the move to Humbolt.
Don't get caught up thinking soil is that much cheaper in the end. soil or coco isn't cheap when your talking as large of a scale grow as your talkin. the initial investment for hydro is more than buying the pots for soil, but you won't have to buy soil after every grow. you'd get your money back for the cost of nutes in one grow in hydro.. but that's just my $.02
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[flyingimam]

shit can happen and can be disastrous when u r not on your own property

example:
Heavy cannabis user jailed (From Ealing Times) (http://www.ealingtimes.co.uk/news/3688341.Heavy_cannabis_user_jailed/)

[Testament]

stinky took the words outta my mouth..if your in a small town, more nosy people. ABSENTEE LANDLORD is what your lookin for. but I'd still be careful growing in someone else's house.
Is the cost of the house itself part of your budget. I'd go w/ a hydro grow, you can build it yourself for so much less $.
did I hear you say you have $3.5k to invest in your operation but you wouldn't be able to afford nutes for a hydro grow . that's absurd, specially if you plan on making money off of your grow to make the move to Humbolt.
Don't get caught up thinking soil is that much cheaper in the end. soil or coco isn't cheap when your talking as large of a scale grow as your talkin. the initial investment for hydro is more than buying the pots for soil, but you won't have to buy soil after every grow. you'd get your money back for the cost of nutes in one grow in hydro.. but that's just my $.02
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Great post 1st off.

Initially, I was working with a 2k budget, But I decided to sit back and continue to save $ and plan more before rushing into it. But thats why I was hesitant to start with hydro, and I wasn't too crazy about making my own system. However, a local commercial grower that I happened to meet recently is willing to teach me how to construct my own decent sized op, so I am now considering it strongly. I am also leaning towards the "stadium" soil format as well.

I've spent a HUGE amount of time, way more than I care to say, putting time and effort into planning and learning the process. Honestly, given my circumstances, NO, I do NOT think it is something that I want to look for longevity in, on a LARGE scale. more like, 1-2 large grows, cash out, and moe to humboldt and do it legally....lol. but maybe I am just dreaming a little now.

But this little hobby has def. become an obsession. ;-P

:rasta:

[Testament]

not to discourage u or anything

just remember the law is far more willing to bust u, than u r smart to avoid them

im just sayin it, that the slightest mistake can be disastrous, so make sure whatever detailed plan u have, u have tested it from pov of law to be a smart one, treat your own plan as u were cop trying to bust u and see if your plan wins

I agree. I think short term, I am at a huge advantage, and that as time goes on, the margin becomes much more thin. As a result, I am budgeting and planning accordingly.

I want to do 2 grows, and then leave.

I feel like the window is small enough that I can achieve what I want to, without drawing much heat, and not giving murphy's law as much time to catch up to me, since there will only be 2 harvests.

I feel it is a calculated risk that I am willing to take.
:rastasmoke::rastasmoke:

[stinkyattic]

All right, enough with the commercial grow talk.
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