Been in the Hospital for the past 2 weeks

[SFGurrilla]

Hey Cannabis.com, I was with a buddy bombing hills on our long boards and I got in a bad wreck and ended up having my leg snap in half and a bunch of ligaments and tendons to be damaged along with tissue in my left leg. I had Tibia/Fibula Rodding Surgery and then I contracted Staphorious Infection the day I was allowed to leave and go home. The pressure from the infection in my leg has been driving me up the wall. I have been in this bed for two weeks. I have been moving around but the pains intolerable without all these pain killers, I cant stand taking them I cant wait to have my butter and buds when I am out of here.

My question is about smoking, I was told it will drasticly decrease my bone growth and healing time. Along with making rehabilitation longer. Should I vaporize it instead of will glass or bong be sufficient? I dont understand why smoking slows bone growth down. I am just looking to get off all this Dillated and Vikaden and the others.

I was planning on just doing edibles but I enjoy the smoke.

Let me know cannabis.com! I know what works for me and god has created my body to work with cannabis I feel like.

No negative feedback please. Only Positive comments.


Peace, Love, Light

[epilepticme]

Dude eat and vape all you want! Smoking anything is not generally healthy and if your Doc said don't smoke I would listen :) Sounds like a serious injury! Glad your ok now!

[matthiasj]

what were you doing? Thats crazy, i hope you get better quick, if anything weed would help you during rehabilitation

[NextLineIsMine]

Im fairly solid that they just mean cigarettes. Cig smokers heal slower because that tiny amount of carbon dioxide bonds to your red blood cells and takes up some spaces that were meant to transport oxygen. Less oxygen means poorer circulation, and less nutrient rich blood avalible for your crippled body.

Albeit I dont know how much carbon monoxide is in a joint, if you want to be super careful just eat it.

[illnillinois]

i saw this group of ZOObies in provo UTAH, and 5-6 jumped out of truck at a red light on top of a big hill.. One of the dumbass's wiped out like 6 ft after he got going. think he ended up twisting his ankle..

fucking funny

glad your back

[birdgirl73]

Sorry you got so banged and broken up and had to spend all that time in the hospital. Sorry about the staph infection, too.

When they say "Don't smoke," they're mostly referring to cigarettes, but smoking anything isn't ideal, it's true. When you're healing, you need all the oxygen you can get and tiny blood vessels need to knit themselves back together. Smoking of any kind, but especially tobacco-smoking, impedes that process. So your healing is indeed slowed down.

Bones are fully of blood vessels and tissue that manufactures blood cells, so by not smoking, you're letting them do the best job they can for you and help supply your body with the oxygen-carrying cells that'll help mend that leg bone and those ligaments back together. Cannabis smoke competes with your body for oxygen just like tobacco smoke, and you're still getting carbon monoxide and benzopyrenes in weed smoke which are chemicals that aren't ideal under any circumstances, especially when you're trying to heal and fight infection.

I know it's hard not to, but if you can resist the impulse to smoke and can eat or vape your cannabis instead, that'd be ideal. If you cannot, I'm convinced it's not going to be that sinister a threat to smoke a few hits here or there because weed smokers never smoke as much cannabis as tobacco smokers smoke cigarettes. They only dream of being able to do that!

Hope you feel better soon, SF. Take good care of yourself.

[veggii]

I was planning on just doing edibles but I enjoy the smoke.

Let me know cannabis.com! I know what works for me and god has created my body to work with cannabis I feel like.

No negative feedback please. Only Positive comments.


Peace, Love, Light
sounds like you already answered your question !!
who told you that ?? do they have any proof ??

I say, if you feel better smoking it then smoke it !! peace ...veggii

[painretreat]

:thumbsup:Print and keep re-reading Next Line is Mine's and Birdie's post's! You NEED the oxygen! :D All the studies in the world have been done. For Ortho and infection (among other things) it is not a choice but absolute necessity! :stoned:. What you choose to do now, could effect your future.

I hope your doc has explained that it can get into the bone and make it spongy. Sometimes, that is fixable! If it were me, I'd go edibles, as already suggested!

I can tell you, I do know, it makes all those tiny little muscles, tendons, nerve's and ligaments relax and make you feel so much better! You need some relief and you are on as powerful a med as you could be! Ortho Docs are not usually so generous with the meds, as yours is. The majority are very stingy with pain meds.

You should have resource's for the "Pain Clinic" Ask for a consultation!

It is nice to see your mind is working well enough to seek some educated advice. Hope you take it! After injury and hospitalization it is difficult to realize, this is a situation you have little control over. Except for what the Dr. tells you.

I think, if it were me and I could not get some cheap oxygen at home. I'd buy those new "instant oxygen' cans (the latest fad for a legal hi). Use the oxygen from it prior to and after any type of inhalation of mmj. But, that would be me. Knowing the value of oxygen, if I was not able to stop smoking while recovering.

You are right, I am not a fan of Vit V for ortho pain either, I think it is better for a toothache! Long term tylenol ingestion isn't good for you, but situational, take it! My experience the Vik made me hi, did not help the pain but it made me hi enough I did not care I still had it! I hope this doesn't break the rules, if so, hope someone edit's it!

I am not sure as to your explanation of what you were doing. I have not heard of that. The most I ever did was a 'Chinese Fire Drill' (as a teen-ager) stone sober! Until the cops stopped us!

Your pain will be with you awhile, coping can be an issue if you get down and depressed with it. Seek temporary psychological help. 2 weeks in a hospital without being paid, that could screw up your mind a bit!

Good luck to you, my heart goes out, with empathy! Please drop back by and let us know what you are doing and how well and fast your recovery is! pr Pleaz know prayers and thots of a fast and spedy recovery are going your way! pr:hippy:

[GreenDestiny]

from Jack Herer's The Emperor Wears No Clothes:

Marijuana smoke effectively dilates the airways of the lungs, the bronchi, opening them to allow more oxygen into the lungs. It is also the best natural dilator of the tiny airways of the lungs, the bronchial tubes - making cannabis the best overall bronchial dilator for 80% of the population (the remaining 20% sometimes show minor negative reactions).

Cannabis lowers blood pressure, dilates the arteries and reduces body temperature an average of one-half degree, thereby relieving stress.

Instead of smoking, vape it! Chances are good that it will increase your ability to breathe in more oxygen, plus allowing more of it to flow through your body via the dilated arteries. And since there have also been studies about cannabinoids boosting the immune system, that's even better.

[painretreat]

When you are on antibiotic's, your immune system is questionable or you would not have an infection! I doubt the Cannibis can help your immune system when it is under attack from antibiotics and infection. I believe you have to be in a healthier state to boost your immune system.

My experience with vape: I think it makes the bud taste better, that is, if you like the taste of it! Plus, it is so much smoother! Try vape! If you like the smoke I really think you'll love the vape! pr

And get well with a speedy recovery!:jointsmile:

[theforthdrive]

drasticly decrease my bone growth and healing time. Along with making rehabilitation longer.

Honestly I would rather it take longer and not have to use the pharm. pain killer. I would eat your ass off... there is no way you'll be worse than you already are!

I hope this cheers ya up...cause it could always be worse!

Olympic Weightlifting Accident Video (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/858455/)

[Storm Crow]

Hebrew U. Researchers Find Cannabis Can Strengthen Bones
Hebrew U. Researchers Find Cannabis Can Strengthen Bones - Good News - Israel News - Arutz Sheva (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/96146)

Peripheral cannabinoid receptor, CB2, regulates bone mass
Peripheral cannabinoid receptor, CB2, regulates bone mass � PNAS (http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/103/3/696)

New Weapon In Battle Against Osteoporosis
New Weapon In Battle Against Osteoporosis (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/35621.php)

Activation of CB2 receptor attenuates bone loss in osteoporosis
IACM-Bulletin (http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=210#2)

Cannabis-like compound prevents bone loss
Cannabis-like compound prevents bone loss: The Hempire - [cannabis, uk] (http://www.thehempire.com/index.php/cannabis/news/cannabis_like_compound_prevents_bone_loss)

The cannabinoid CB1 receptor regulates bone formation by modulating adrenergic signaling
Cannabinoids Research Articles and recent Cannabinoid Abstracts (http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php?customernumber=781160420367400&pr=MJJA07_Immunology#_Toc177909117)

Take care of yourself! - Granny :hippy:

[SFGurrilla]

Thank you EVERYONE, for being here with me with all of this positive reinforcement. I agree about pharm. pain killers, they get you so high you just don't care, then you crave them even more, its sad. Well heres some pictures. My leg snapped and my shoe hit my knee the swung back the other way.

I just discharged sometime today, be home soon, my pops made a bunch of cookies for me and has been saving them for the past two weeks. It'll be a great hour and a half ride home.

Peace and Love Cannabis.com

Me
http://i38.tinypic.com/j6tvf4.jpg
Leg
http://i33.tinypic.com/296grgh.jpg
Some Staples
http://i36.tinypic.com/152fjmq.jpg
More staples, foot swelling
http://i36.tinypic.com/dpzklj.jpg
My leg ultrasound for clotting
http://i37.tinypic.com/35jgtq9.jpg

[daihashi]

damn dude.. looks pretty serious. I'm glad you made it out ok. Hopefully you'll feel better soon so you can get off the pills and back on the bud.

Best wishes to you :hippy:

[the image reaper]

I suggest you consider Birdgirl's advice, she has a nursing background, as I understand it ... I have always heard that smoking anything, can hinder your immune defense (I am NOT a doctor, but frequently impersonate one when stoned :D), if I had a staph infection, I wouldn't take any chances ... our local hospital frequently discharges corpses, that came in for a minor surgery, and wound up with staph ... bad stuff ... :wtf: ... one thing I do know, (from breaking multiple bones), do NOT eat spinach, or other greens, they have some substance in them that hinders bone growth ... :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

Spinach is also a common place to find E. coli bacteria, and you don't want to risk food poisoning while you heal!

One last thing I will add here, is that while you are healing (and it is a good idea all the time) to avoid anything with an artificial sweetener in it. I have no sources for this, but a friend with a broken collarbone that refused to set was read the riot act by his doctor when Doc found out how much Diet Coke he drank, and told him that was severely impacting his ability to mend bones. Yes it's anecdotal. But Every little bit helps.

Your leg looks bad ass. And they did a tidy job of getting it fixed without long scars! A decade ago, you'd have quite a collection of battle scars there. Get better soon so you can show them off on the slopes... ;)

[SFGurrilla]

I got home and all my in home care dropped and didn't come when I woke up for my antibioatics. I ended up having very bad opiate withdrawls and dillated withdraws all morning. Became overly dehyderated and ended up in the ER all day. Which is where i got my antibiotics also, they discharged me after a few hours. Came home and vaped while a couple friends smoked ad told hospital stories. I now feel great and my leg just feels fuzzy. Thank god for the erb.

We also now have home care.

Peace

[epilepticme]

Hey I found this article and was thinking of your injuries.

Cannabis Effective at Relieving Chronic Post-Operative Pain

Long before the great Sativex debate started a cannabis plant extract was providing pain relief for patients after major surgery such as knee replacements, according to a study carried out by Imperial College London and the Medical Research Council.

Details of a trial published 1996 in "Anesthesiology" shows how effective Cannador, a cannabis plant extract, was at managing post-operative pain.

Dr Anita Holdcroft, from Imperial College London, and lead researcher said: "Pain after surgery continues to be a problem because many of the commonly used drugs are either ineffective or have too many side effects.

These results show that cannabinoids are effective, and may lead to the development of a wider range of drugs to manage postoperative pain."
The researchers tested Cannador on 65 patients who had previously undergone surgery.

11 patients received a 5mg dose, 30 received a 10mg dose, and 24 received a 15mg dose. While all patients who received a 5mg dose requested additional pain relief, only 15 of those who received the 10mg dose and 6 of those on the 15mg dose did so.

As the dose increased, patients reported decreasing pain intensity and increasing side effects. Side effects included increasing nausea and increased heart rate in some patients.

Professor Mervyn Maze from Imperial College London, and one of the researchers, added: "We thought cannabis might be beneficial in helping manage pain following surgery, as previous research indicated cannabinoids help 'top up' the body's natural system for reducing pain sensation.

This research proves it can be effective, with minimal side effects at low doses."

The study was conducted using patients from Chelsea and Westminster Hospital, Charing Cross Hospital, Northwick Park Hospital, Kings College Hospital, The Manor Walsall, The Whittington, St Bartholomew's, University College London Hospital, West Middlesex and Ravenscourt Park Hospital.

The study was funded by the Medical Research Council and the Westminster Medical School Research Trust, which is administered by the Chelsea and Westminster NHS Trust.

The Cannador was donated by the Institute for Clinical Research, Berlin.
All in all it was a resounding success and yet today in 2008, we are still no nearer to a widely available oral cannabis extract.
Ask your representative why.
http://www.imperial.ac.uk (http://www.imperial.ac.uk/)

[zzdank]

I got home and all my in home care dropped and didn't come when I woke up for my antibioatics. I ended up having very bad opiate withdrawls and dillated withdraws all morning. Became overly dehyderated and ended up in the ER all day. Which is where i got my antibiotics also, they discharged me after a few hours. Came home and vaped while a couple friends smoked ad told hospital stories. I now feel great and my leg just feels fuzzy. Thank god for the erb.

We also now have home care.

Peace

Wow that must suck. Am surprised you went through w/d because you have to take them quite a while. Try not taking so many pills if you can of course i know your in pain :( also try staying in bed all the time and if you really feel like shit try out some kratom tea. My best wishes.

[rebgirl420]

Ouchies!

Hope you feel better hun!

[dodohead]

i know how it is with bad leg(s), it sucks.

get better buddy:thumbsup: