Maximum Yields

[Iscandar]

Hello all,
I am new here but I have been reading on and off for a couple years. I have not been able to find much info on growing plants that can yield 8oz+. Most growers in stealth cabs have limited space. I have heard talk and LEO reports of plants 6ft tall yielding 1lbs or more. But I have never seen or heard any reliable info backing up those claims.

When looking at the ads for seeds from different companies, they often have a yield they give for each strain. For example, this white widow seed says 350grams per plant.

Sativa/ Indica: 40%/ 60%
Flowering Period: 8 weeks
Height: 0,8m
Yields: 350gr

They are not saying how long they have been vegging the plants for. That is what I want to know.

BTW, 350 grams = 12 oz. That is a great yield. But is it all talk??

I would like to know if anyone has experienced anything like this in real life. Is it possible to get 8oz+ from a single plant. If so how long must the vegg stage be? And are they using any of these advanced techniques like " LST Low Stress Training" or topping?


LST Low stress training of cannabis seeds plants (http://www.indoormarijuanaseeds.com/advanced-indoor-cannabis-growing-techniqes/low-stress-training-lst-growing-marijuana.html)

[foxysox]

That's per square metre.
12 oz in a square metre is very nice, high five.
It all depends on your technique, and how much light you are throwing at it.
I aim in a SOG to get about 1/2-3/4 ounce per plant flowered at ~5" as a rooted clone.
If all you care about is weight, run a commercial strain like Big Bud, M39, Mighty Mite, Northern Lights, or Papaya.
Xcrispi gets over a pound a plant indoors. But he is vegging a very very long time, which takes a high level of skills to not kill the plant.

Do not count the chickens before the eggs are even laid.

[Iscandar]

GreenLeaf420 Registered+

I have 1 Question...

Do you have the equipment Ready to GO?

Iscandar You need to start a THREAD but since we are jacking SnS's Thread already... You will not find info on people getting 1lb off a single plant under a LED because it did not happen yet to my knowledge... Anyway I never heard of people getting 1Lb off a single plant unless it is Outdoors... Indoors in W/F's mostly home made jobs I've heard of people getting 14-15 Oz Max... What you are asking for is basically impossible IMO w/ LED or HPS... You need to really rethink what goals you have... What are you looking for 1.)energy savings 2.) Yield 3.) limited Amounts of Plants ect...


If you do not have the equipment we are discussing Tall Tale Gardening...

Figure out what your Goals are and put it all in a THREAD and we will try to help you acheive what is possible and in reason...

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Thank you for the reply. I have a budget of $10k for this project. I don't care about electric usuage because I can buy a generator. I do care about heat signatures though. When I saw SnSStealth have a great result with his LEDs I thought about using them. That would save me from buying a generator and building a room within a room to lower the heat sign. His yields seemed to be quite good. I would like to have results of 8oz per plant. That is my goal. In your opinion how would you recommend getting there? I think hydro is best but I can use anything really. I am results oriented.

[foxysox]

Oh great. Just f'in great.
Another aspiring cashcropper...

Learn to grow first. The fact that you are still on about predicting per-plant yield seals it...

[Iscandar]

How long does he veg do you know? I wouldn't want to veg more then 2.5 months.

Which would be more productive, many smaller plants with a faster process or fewer larger plants that take longer to veg?

[SunnyD]

Try it and find out

Trial and Error?

[Iscandar]

I just wanted to know from real growers the real situation. Books and DVD's don't give enough info regarding yields. I think cash croppers can contribute just as well as those that grow as a hobby. If I am willing to buy and experiment with new technology then that benefits every grower don't you think? I really would like to use the Procyon 100's. I am wondering how many I would need for this kind of project.

[Forwhat420]

I wish I could jump on a site with 10K to dump into something I never tried before!! Do some growin,' learn about the plant, do some reading, and in a few years you may decide to cashcrop... I doubt it though...LOL

[Iscandar]

Trial and Error are fine but it is smarter to listen and learn from those who have already been there and done it. To benefit from their knowledge. To go out and waste money and time is foolish and expensive. No, I would rather learn from those who came before me.

[Iscandar]

If you want to use Procyon's that 10k gets eaten up pretty fast at $460 a unit.

[SunnyD]

Everyone's grow is different my friend.

You can take ideas from others but you can't take "experience" from others, you don't get it...

There are SOOO SOOOO SOOOOO many different variables that effect yield you obviously don't understand the magnitude.

[SunnyD]

Things that effect the yield of the crop

Light
Air Movement
CO2
Nutrients
Genetics
Veg & Flower Time
Space Allowed for Root Production
Grow Room Size

[Forwhat420]

Everything you are asking has already been asked a million times around here. Just search it...as for your question...

Sites usually list their yields by per meter squared, usually under a 600-1000 HPS SOG type set up..Which was already mentioned somewhere in this thread.. SOG= many small female clones grown side by side to produce a sea of main colas instead of a few bushy plants...

Yield depends on experience and greenthumb ability...

Words from a rookie that has been in the game a few years already;;; START SMALL AND WORK YOUR WAY UP SLOWWWWLY. Dont worry about yields because it is too many variables.

[Dutch Pimp]

Trial and Error are fine but it is smarter to listen and learn from those who have already been there and done it. To benefit from their knowledge. To go out and waste money and time is foolish and expensive. No, I would rather learn from those who came before me.

Money is not a problem....it's how much time you got. Cash cropping is full time, 24/7.

Welcome to the world of agriculture....:thumbsup:

[SunnyD]

Everything you are asking has already been asked a million times around here. Just search it...as for your question...

Sites usually list their yields by per meter squared, usually under a 600-1000 HPS SOG type set up..Which was already mentioned somewhere in this thread.. SOG= many small female clones grown side by side to produce a sea of main colas instead of a few bushy plants...

Yield depends on experience and greenthumb ability...

Words from a rookie that has been in the game a few years already;;; START SMALL AND WORK YOUR WAY UP SLOWWWWLY. Dont worry about yields because it is too many variables.

And so say we all

[elskeetro]

The ONLY way to learn is to just do it. It doesn't matter who tells you what.

You could know everything there is to know, but if you've never even popped a seed then you have NO EXPERIENCE and that's what counts.

Before i started i researched like a motherfucker. i had such a clear vision of how it was going to go and it was all gonna be smooth and soon i'd have piles of smoke. WRONG! I've already revamped my entire system twice because what i thought was gonna be amazingly simple (drip systems and ebb and flow) turned out to be frustrating and a mess (i've come to love my third and final system...DWC).

I'm on my 4th grow. My grow op is small (4 plants flowering, 4 vegging, 12 clones) and it's been a learning experience beyond what any forum could offer. Sure, it's wonderful having this at my fingertips when need be, but unless you are a natural you've got some work ahead of you.

You are asking experienced growers (myself excluded) what to do. They are telling you to take it slow, and you don't seem to like that advice. Spend 1k of your 10k on a small scale setup...get comfy with it...make your money back...then when you have a handle on it blow your whole wad.

that's the deal.

Skeet.

PS - Damn...lots of responses posted between the time i started and posted these thoughts...

[SunnyD]

The ONLY way to learn is to just do it. It doesn't matter who tells you what.

You could know everything there is to know, but if you've never even popped a seed then you have NO EXPERIENCE and that's what counts.

Before i started i researched like a motherfucker. i had such a clear vision of how it was going to go and it was all gonna be smooth and soon i'd have piles of smoke. WRONG! I've already revamped my entire system twice because what i thought was gonna be amazingly simple (drip systems and ebb and flow) turned out to be frustrating and a mess (i've come to love my third and final system...DWC).

I'm on my 4th grow. My grow op is small (4 plants flowering, 4 vegging, 12 clones) and it's been a learning experience beyond what any forum could offer. Sure, it's wonderful having this at my fingertips when need be, but unless you are a natural you've got some work ahead of you.

You are asking experienced growers (myself excluded) what to do. They are telling you to take it slow, and you don't seem to like that advice. Spend 1k of your 10k on a small scale setup...get comfy with it...make your money back...then when you have a handle on it blow your whole wad.

that's the deal.

Skeet.

:clap::clap::clap:

Here's what you do,
1.):smokebong:
2.)Do some :detective1: work
3.)Then do a little :weedpoke:
4.)When that's done, get your :baggy:
5.)Then :joint1: for feedback
6.)Then do some MORE :weedpoke:
7.)Repeat steps 1-6 until you get a :greenthumb:

[stinkyattic]

And with that good advice, this thread is CLOSED.
Please refer to site rules prohibiting talk of cashcropping/selling on open forum. Thank you.