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Markass
08-01-2008, 12:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azBvWWYTBa8


This isn't extreme brutality, but it is going over the line. Even if I had seen this, I would've likely intervened. But every day is a further step into a police state, things are going to shit in this time and day. I wouldn't let a police officer use a badge to scare me away from doing what is right for a victim of their brutality, what about you??

texas grass
08-01-2008, 01:05 PM
im sorry but that is extreme brutality,
and im sorry i might bet banned for this but
them cops should be put to death for abuse of power and any other official should too

40oz
08-01-2008, 01:26 PM
As much as I would love to step in and be a hero, all standing up to those cops would get you is a billy club to the temple. Better to just let the cops do what they think they need to do then make them pay for it later when uncle sam hears about what they did.

stinkyattic
08-01-2008, 01:36 PM
Call 911 RIGHT AWAY and INSIST that the shift supervisor be sent down IMMEDIATELY.

Priincesss
08-01-2008, 01:42 PM
I think I would interveen verbally aposed to physically. Making comments about brutality(not smart-ass and snide ones eather but like concerns for the person) and hopefully Id have a device so I could take a video, like 40oz said, youd probibly get beaten too... I also like Stinkyattics suggestion, calling 911 doesnt seem like such a bad idea.. I know I'd call if there was any other kind of street fight like that, cops abusing power is no exception.

thousandwattwizard
08-01-2008, 01:49 PM
If you intervened, you would very likely be charged with something and probably beaten as well. A friend of mine was playing with an airsoft gun when undercovers came out of nowhere (literally) and tackled him to the ground after slamming him into his car. My other friend told the officers politely that it was not a real gun and to please stop and he was punched in the face and charged with interfering in a police investigation.

Its cool to want to play gallant hero, but not prudent.

killerweed420
08-01-2008, 05:45 PM
Looks like too many cops there to intervene physically. Just keep rolling tape and call all the news channells when you get done. I've intervened twice during my lifetime and been damn lucky I didn't get killed. The first time I was overpowered and thrown in the holding cell where they proceeded to kick the shit out of me.lol
The second time I was a little smarter and won.
It does no good to call 911 for the authorities because they are the authorities and they are all either dirty or not man enough to stand up when they see someones civil rights being violated.

Nightcrewman
08-02-2008, 09:33 AM
It's a bit worrying just how many people walked on by this incident pretending not to see it.

NCM

Nightcrewman
08-02-2008, 09:38 AM
The victim will hopefully prosecute the officers involved and sue the police department foe millions.

NCM

IrieIrie
08-05-2008, 08:08 AM
It's a bit worrying just how many people walked on by this incident pretending not to see it.

NCM

The thing is is that those people may see things occurring like this on a regular basis. They don't want to get the same so they choose to not intervene which is sad but in some communities, the residents have to look out for the men and women that are meant to serve and protect them.

As for the video and many others that I have seen that are similar to this, it disgusts me. I can't stand watching it knowing that these cops may not get what they deserve, while that man will probably get slammed with charges such as assault to a police officer and resisting arrest.

Now if I saw something like this happening, I'll have no problem letting the men in blue know what's on my mind. I'll probably end up getting in trouble somehow which was usually the case when i was in school. Some teachers have a tough time hearing whats actually on students minds.

Stoner Shadow Wolf
08-05-2008, 02:51 PM
i watched half the video... i cant watch any more, i dont want to attack my computer in place of them... that was despicable.

GrinKyle
08-05-2008, 03:03 PM
Was he also getting tazed? or did the video just make werid tazer like sounds?

psychocat
08-05-2008, 06:30 PM
I am amazed how often American cops get away with this kind of shit.
I would've thought that after Rodney King the old bill might have cleaned up thier act a bit.

Mcnizzlebery
08-05-2008, 06:41 PM
To be completely fair the guy didnt look like he was makeing it easy, but that was still un called for. In a situation where you are going to be arrested you should really just close your mouth and put your hands behind your back. If you dont i woud be expecting a taser or beat stick. But hey, i thought that was common knowledge.

psychocat
08-05-2008, 06:58 PM
To be completely fair the guy didnt look like he was makeing it easy, but that was still un called for. In a situation where you are going to be arrested you should really just close your mouth and put your hands behind your back. If you dont i woud be expecting a taser or beat stick. But hey, i thought that was common knowledge.

There's a world of difference between restraining someone and beating the living shit out of them.

MadSativa
08-05-2008, 07:48 PM
cant fight the law for to long unless your rich.

Nightcrewman
08-06-2008, 10:05 AM
Here's another similar example, British cops get away with breaking the law as well. The cop was off duty but still got away with it.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | CCTV of policeman's headbutt (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7543691.stm)

As the doorman pointed out if he had head butted the cop he would have lost his job and probably had a short holiday at her majesty's pleasure.

NCM

tomm01
08-07-2008, 12:59 AM
Fuck the cop can't even hold his beating stick, should he really get the job?
Dropped the thing about three times!
And yeh I'd just tape it and send it to the news stations.

veggii
08-09-2008, 01:35 AM
I remember one day me and my buddies were coming home from the bar about 2 am. well there were a few people outside our house on the grass and we started talking and they were on there way home too and their buddy had passed out on the grass. so we all were standing there chit-chatting and a police car pulls up,cop gets out and asks for everyone ID, so we give too him except the guy who is passed out. cop starts screaming at him get up!! again and again !! but dudes out so cop starts kicking and beating and screaming at the dude !! me of course I turn around head inside house call 911 and say I need police here know!!! their is a out of control cop !! next thing we had every cop da hood there !! next the abusive cop arrests me !!!
and throws me in his car and proceeds to take me to station halfway there he makes a turn onto a side road were noone can see and starts to get ready too beat shit outta me !!! I managed to talk him outta beating me and to take me to station !! whew!! that was too f*cking close. get to station was immediately released and went directly home and called internal affairs and filed a complaint! had the police following me around town for months !!

if asked if I would do this again i would say no.. but in reality i prolly would as it was a reaction,.. a reflex too save that guy from getting hurt
never thought about it just did it >he could've killed that guy !!! kicking him in the head with those steel toe boots!! the US police force is outta control !
I'm gonna end this rant on a good note and thank all the noncorrupt police officers for their hard work and dedication,few and far between.

:hippy: :hippy: :hippy: :hippy:

psychocat
08-09-2008, 02:05 AM
At least with modern technology allowing for even smaller and better ways to record audio and video there is the possibility to gather evidence to prove who the bad cops are.
Although having said that I can't help thinking that some of them will still get away with it ALA Rodney King.

NSTassel
08-13-2008, 01:24 AM
yeah that was over the top. but if you want to help the dude in the long run, just document the brutality. if you get involved you will get some too, and be worthless to the guy's civil rights suit.

SouthernGuerilla
08-13-2008, 02:46 AM
Call 911 RIGHT AWAY and INSIST that the shift supervisor be sent down IMMEDIATELY.

911, State police, and then FBI.

If you're involved get an attorney and file a civil suit and talk with your attorney about getting criminal charges pressed against the cop.

But thats when all the dirty politics comes out of the wood work. :(

rebgirl420
08-14-2008, 06:20 AM
That was cruel and over the line but the guy wouldn't comply with the officers.

When a police officer tells you to stop resisting you stop resisting. That is no time to make a fucking stand.

However, it's obviously pretty fucking extreme to lay the night stick on you that many times. But thats the risk you take when you don't comply.

psychocat
08-14-2008, 12:48 PM
That was cruel and over the line but the guy wouldn't comply with the officers.

When a police officer tells you to stop resisting you stop resisting. That is no time to make a fucking stand.

However, it's obviously pretty fucking extreme to lay the night stick on you that many times. But thats the risk you take when you don't comply.

I would have to say I don't agree with this as there are many proven ways to restrain someone without resorting to extreme violence.

SouthernGuerilla
08-14-2008, 02:16 PM
I would have to say I don't agree with this as there are many proven ways to restrain someone without resorting to extreme violence.

Tasers?

psychocat
08-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Tasers?

I was thinking more along the lines of holds and locks that are taught in Hapkido.

But your comment was funny. :D

jakezking
08-21-2008, 06:36 PM
The day we all walk by without comment or other intercession is the day we give in to the police state; then, who will we have to blame but ourselves?

psychocat
08-21-2008, 06:57 PM
Martin Niemoller
Communists, Socialists & Jews

First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me--
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

We would all do well to remember these words. :thumbsup:

jakezking
08-21-2008, 07:40 PM
Dang fine quote and very fitting - especially moving because of Niemoller's firsthand experiences.

flyingimam
08-22-2008, 03:48 AM
we all know that this is if not totally a violation, at least stepping above the line

and we all know cops just like many other groups have bads and goods. ok given in certain areas maybe many of them are just plain badass cops who want their will enforced. but still using "cops" is like using "blacks" or "muslims" and its an over generalization, it only gives them more to do against us as they say, they hate us so we can use deadly force if we only "think" they were up to something against us!


this cop certainly deserves to get punished by virtue of seeing this video not taking into account the background, in my judgment.

there are daily incidents like this, but what can a citizen do against the system that treats citizens like sheep? and cops are the shepherds of the system or better said the the dogs of the herd

so most of us can only watch and think and learn and try to avoid this. however after things are done, there is always a way for those of us who can afford to get the justice, we all know money buys it! bad/cheap lawyers usually wont!

painretreat
08-22-2008, 08:42 AM
Call 911 RIGHT AWAY and INSIST that the shift supervisor be sent down IMMEDIATELY.
After calling, I'd use cell phone video. Stay way back out of the way and call the DA's office the next day to let them know, I was a witness and willing to testify.

Sometimes, I wonder, if fools like that deserve my help though! It isn't like the cop look at a group and said, hey, lets' beat up that one! Often, we have to bite our tongue and mind our own business for our own safety.

First, I would consider my safety and what they could do to me! No sense sticking your neck out too far, for people that absolutely would not do the same! We see too much of this anymore!

Veg, was it your first ride. That is scarie stuff! Can't imagine you were able to talk him out of it! pr :hippy:

flyingimam
08-22-2008, 08:58 AM
After calling, I'd use cell phone video. Stay way back out of the way and call the DA's office the next day to let them know, I was a witness and willing to testify.

those people u mention have their hands in the same bowl most of the time! :P

its like tryin to turn a president against his/her vice! u must have irrefutable proof of the whole thing or the cop can come up with anything and make u look like not knowing the whole story [perhaps a threat u did not hear/capture]

problem here is how much 150% trust the system has in itself and in its agents, NY shooting of Sean Bell, rings a bell?

Quote from BBC news
"New York's mayor said he is "deeply disturbed" by the shooting of an unarmed black man by police but said he would support the city's police chief."

and they were just acquitted of all charges, when an innocent/unarmed man was killed in his wedding night by paranoid police!

evidence was compelling enough for me to say F them popos, but what did the system do? well u see what they did!