My Hashberry/Mango grow

[slayer34ny]

Time for a new adventure. Here is some basic information about what I am using/plan.

1) 400w switchable (MH/HPS) lamp.
2) Strains are Hashberry and Mango.
3) Soil grow (pro-mix/ocean forrest).
4) Planned SOG (sea of green - ie: many small clones).
5) Space is a 4' x 4' x 6' closet.
6) Walls are covered in myler (for reflectivness)
7) Floor is plywood painted white (also reflectivness)
8) One tower fan and one small table fan for air circulation and temperature control.
9) One small fan blowing on ballast for lamp (help w/ longevity).
10) All food used will be Fox Farm (see the website) except for some blackstrap mollasses.
11) Water source is tap water (modified CAREFULLY w/ test kit and pH lowered w/ pH down).
12) Containers are Solo plastic cups/2 gal plastic pots (good drainage is important so only type with many holes).
13) Light cycle will be 20/4 veg and 12/12 flower.

I think that is enough for now ;)

A few pics of how I germinated and planted my seeds. It is important not to drench the paper towels. Damp is good enough. Keep them in dark, but not so covered they get no air. Anyplace room temp will do, heat is not neccesary, although warmth is said to help them a little. When i plant them they got taproot down. Then just brush a little soil back over them. Make sure soil is pretty wet. The less you have to water them the untill they sprout the better.

I intend on using the MH for veg, but at the moment the HPS is finishing my last blueberry mom this week. Then I will switch to the MH bulb.

[jakezking]

slayer34ny, looks like you're off and running! Just be sure to be careful with those babies when you're all Gumby'd up on your Belladonna! I'm sure you will have a great run with them, same as you did your BB and BD.

As an aside, how do you like your 400w MH/HPS conversion setup? I was looking at an all inclusive grow tent from HTGSupply (mainly because I'm lazy and like things extremely simple), and it had such a lamp. I'm looking into an indoor setup, and want to make sure I do it 1/2 way right the first go 'round.

Be good out there, and I wish you much success on this grow! Those sound like some sweet strains - I had ordered Papaya awhile back, but alas it was nabbed by Customs; so, I'm especially interested in following your Mango.

[slayer34ny]

Yep. I have had real good luck with this lamp and ballast. One thing I would reccomend is to pay for the bulb upgrade. The cheap bulbs that came w/ the kit blew 3-4 times. Both the MH and the HPS. thankfully HTGsupply sent me the upgrade bulbs(agromax) at no extra charge. They did replace the bad bulbs each time though. So if you are looking at buying from them I say go for it. I am very happy overall.

[slayer34ny]

Ive got sprouters. All 6 seeds planted have sprouted up. Only 1 mango is lagging behind a little.

Kinda worthless pics, but here are a few snaps anyway. See you soon.

[jakezking]

slayer, I'm looking forward to an update, my friend, and I hope all of your lil' sprouts have become some nice strong lil' ladies. Hashberry and Mango sounds like some sort of fruit salad, or maybe that's just what they'll do to your mind, eh - make it a bowl of fruit salad.

[slayer34ny]

Sorry its been awhile w/ no updates. A long story short, my fn computer blew up. After about $400 on a new dual core (w/ 8800gt PCIe Vid) I am now up and running again. Really put a cramp on my online poker winnings for the week. Yes, I am a poker GOD.

Here are a few updated pics of my babies. All working on stage 3 of growth. Looking mighty healthy. I got to say this should be a grerat yielding grow. I think I am now comfortable w/ my skills. BTW the blueberry and belladonna from my last grow is about half gone (9 oz), The buds are SOOOOOOOOO good. I have been real high for about 2 weeks straight, non-stop. LOL

[anbesol]

are those from KC Brains?

[illnillinois]

is it just me or does this sprout have a REALLY thick trunk or is that the picture playing tricks on my eyes..

[slayer34ny]

As for the mango's....As far as I know I think they did come from KC Brains. I ordered the first set in January from Weed-seeds.net. I was dissappointed in the fact that not ONE of the mango's sprouted. I was told at the time that KC supplied the mango's. As I am a good customer they sent NEW mango seeds w/ my last order. If they came from KC I am not sure. I am assuming that they did. The good news is ALL the mango's I started sprouted and are doing quite well. I am pretty surprised.

All the plants are doing very well, and yes the sprouts did have healthy looking parts. They are fatter than most of the others I have started.

I am transplanting tonight into 1 gallon bucket w/ pro-mix. Pictures to come soon ;)

[slayer34ny]

OK...so I transplanted my babies into 1 gallon pots to give em' more room to grow. Also to start a feeding schedule. (Fox Farms nutes (http://http://www.foxfarmfertilizer.com/feedingfox.html))

I use the plastic cups for ease of removal. Being careful, I knock off all old soil (this is easier when its dry) after cutting the cups open w/ scissors. I fill the new pots about half way and make a lil room in the middle for the plants and her roots. I leave room from the top of the pot (about 3") so i can fill it as the plant grows. This helps to stablize your main stalk, hence no worries of helping the plant stay upright. Also I feel it makes LSTing (tying) easier as well

I am planning on sexing these in another 10 days or so. After that it will be off to a 3-4 gallon pot for the females. FYI...the best pots are the cheapest ones. Go to a garden dept or store and get cheap, thin platic ones. They will have nice drain holes in the bottom and will be very cheap. .30 to 1.00 each, depending on size. ANYTHING with a resevoir or any kind of cup at bottom will rot your roots. Drainage is VERY important. If you have to, stones can be used at bottom. But I like tap root room, so I do not use them.

Some snaps for ya below. More to come soon.

[XmaxxX]

plants look pretty and very healthy!
keep up the good work dude! and keep us updated

[slayer34ny]

Everything going great. Waiting another week or so to sex them. More pics coming soon.

[anbesol]

They Look Super Healthy! Fingers crossed for Pistals!!!

[Shovelhandle]

Nice plants. How many of each are you starting?

[slayer34ny]

Thanks, I am thinking they look damn good so far too. I got 3 started of each strain....6 total. Going SOG and only need 1 lady of each strain. I am thinking...or let me re-state HOPING this will do it ;)

[trancefusion5]

13) Light cycle will be 20/4 veg and 12/12 flower.


Finally i find someone else using 20/4! Im sure other people do, i just never hear about it. Its always 18/6 or 24/0. Ive also been trying 12.5/11.5 for flower. Ive heard it can improve harvest by 20% so i figured why not (Damn i hope the source was right!) Have you or anyone else ever heard of this?

Looking great by the way!! :thumbsup:

[BeFree]

Finally i find someone else using 20/4! Im sure other people do, i just never hear about it. Its always 18/6 or 24/0. Ive also been trying 12.5/11.5 for flower. Ive heard it can improve harvest by 20% so i figured why not (Damn i hope the source was right!) Have you or anyone else ever heard of this?

Looking great by the way!! :thumbsup:


If I'm correct, Opie uses a 13/12 theory with his flowering light schedule, might wanna check it out.:jointsmile:

[BeFree]

Plants look great, by the way. :thumbsup:

good luck on getting your two selected ladies. :pimp:


Be Safe:jointsmile:

[Puffzter]

I vegged my widows in 20/4 as well. Started with 24/0 but I got the feeling they did'nt like it very much, can't say why but they just felt like they wanted a break a few hours a day so I shifted and indeed they seemed to get more energy in them. I know this is very subjective and I can't realy point at anthing in particular I just felt they liked it more.

Puffzter

[slayer34ny]

Thanks for all the intrest people. I have had great luck with 20/4. I have a few quick reasons for this.

A) Giving a plant 24 hours of light is rediculous. How you can expect anything but stress effects I dont know. It grows naturally in 14-18 hours of light, also using moonlight as i am told. 20 hours is even pushing it, but I have found it to be the cycle with the most veg growth with ANY strain.

B) I am sure your ballast would not appreciate it either. I have heard to set timer to 23.75 hrs, giving your ballast cooling time. Again rediculous. If you think as hot as it gets a 15 min cooldown is helpfull, think again. If anything it is very hurtfull.

C) Energy. If you pay for it, you are wasting it.

D) This I have no proof of but i am told Co2 processing slows greatly in a hot, uncirculated area. And any indoor space no matter what type of fans/vents does not compare to natural outdoor air movement. Thus 18 is prob best for overall plant health.

E) Four less hours of worrying about any infered heat detection from the men in blue.

As for the flowering cycle, I will tell you what I believe. This is just an opinion based on some facts and lots of trial and error. Plants do their flowering in the dark, not the light. They break down sugars and other nutes as they intake the light, converting them at night. A 12/12 cycle is always a safe bet. I have tried 10 on/14 off, and got slightly less yield but seemed to have better potency and smell. On 12/12 I get a good balance. On 13 on/ 11 off I get less callax to leaf ratio (bigger/leafier buds) but a noticable dip in smell and quality.

I will take a family photo later today, so see ya soon.

[trancefusion5]

Thanks for the insight slayer! Keep up the great work! :thumbsup:

[slayer34ny]

Here is a shot of all my babies before a feeding. I will be hoping to switch my light back soon for sexing purposes. The front row are the Hashberry's. The back row are the Mango's.

See you next update ;)

[slayer34ny]

So I went into the growroom to check on my babies. On a close inspection of one of the hashberries I noticed something odd. These things look like pollen sacs....OMG. This plant has never left 20hrs of light and none of the others are showing this odd growth. How could my plant show sex 3.5 weeks into life on a 20/4 light cycle. Maybe i am wrong and they are not developing pollen sac's.......but wtf else could they be. Any theories or suggestions would be helpfull. Pics attatched. These lil pods show up at all nodes from the bottom up. If it matters this plant is the tallest of the bunch, and the strange looking one of the litter.

[LuciferN]

Sorry but this really look like some male pre-flower.

[bickeybammer]

thats a male fo sho dont ruin your grow ... get that shit oout of there put it out side or something.... make some hashberry mango seeds lol

[tokr2153]

thats a male fo sho dont ruin your grow ... get that shit oout of there put it out side or something.... make some hashberry mango seeds lol

Yeah man get that male out of there as soon as you can and I would make some hashberry mango seeds I would love to see how they come out. Other then that your grow is looking great just hang in there.

[BigWeed]

Hey grow looks great and Id move those guys out of that space. I had a problem with my KC brains mango seeds also I had to get a new batch and those didnt germ either so Im staying away from KC right now untill I can find someone with a fresh stock. Other than that your grow looks real good keep up the good work.:rasta::rastasmoke::pimp:

[trancefusion5]

Yeah thats definatly pollen sacs. I had the same thing happen on this grow. All but one of my males showed right at 3 1/2 weeks almost 2 weeks before i put them under 12.5/11.5. Then I thought i had got them all out way before flower but then another little bastard started to show!!

[slayer34ny]

Thanks for the ID peeps, but I know its a male;) What i was asking is how a 3 1/2 week old plant under 20 hrs veg light show so early. Not only that but the male flowers grew REAL fast. One day they aint there, next day they are ready to open? I have just never encountered this before is all. Hope he was the only one of the bunch. Looks like it so far.

[slayer34ny]

OK. So here is the scoop. I couldent be more dissapointed in the quality of these strains. I would reccomend that NOBODY try growing these strains (Mango and Hashberry) All the Mamgo seeds either didnt germinate, and if they did they were hermies and males. 20 seeds , all were NO GOOD. I have 2 Hashberry plants left that never showed any signs of sex, even after 4 weeks at 12/12. So i gave up and put em back into veg. i was so mad that i started 3 more Blueberry plants. Now all the plants are on 20/4 cycle and the BB are about 3 weeks old, the HB are 9 WEEKS OLD and look terrable. No shoot growth and very poor development. I will upload some pics later and post some more info. PLEASE AVOID ALL KC BRAINS SEEDS. They are junk.

[slayer34ny]

Well, all the plants are on 12/12 cycle now. 2 hashberries and 3 blueberries. Both HBs are confirmed females. Only 1 BB is a confirmed female, 1 is questionable and the last is a male for sure. I am taking some cuttings off of the HB and sending them into a clone room. For now here are a few updated pics. I had to tie down the HBs to get any kind of shoot growth. They are almost tied at a 45 deg angle...lol. 1 HB has been tied twice and i see it growing like a corkscrew;) The good news is it worked and I have lots of new shoot growth.

I will be posting a few clone pics tomarrow.

Sorry Ive been away, just been kinda sick, but doing better now.

[Shovelhandle]

glad you are better.

I'll be watching if you post. I'll be going to 12/12 tomorrow myself.

Best o luck with the blossoms!

[slayer34ny]

First off....sup Shov, glad to see your still on track...and thanks for the concern. Maybe Santa will bring us both great yield for the holidays...lol. I am posting a few pics of some cuttings I took. A friend of mine is acting as my clone room and they are off to his basement.

In case anyone is interested, it is time for the outdoor harvest of my Blueberry clones. They did quite well, some had mold issues, so I dont expect to ever grow BB outdoors, but indoors i couldent be happier. They need to be shaken off outdoors alot, morning dew and rainfall excellerates the mold problems (one friend lost ALL his plants to mold) Out of the 30 some I kept for myself (both belladonna and BB) all are quite healthy, and very little mold (I got a good grow plot) I figure about a LB from each, and I am splitting it w/ the landowner. So by my calculations I should have 15LB of BB to smoke thru till Xmas ;), and yes I can smoke it all easily). I will be posting pics of the yield soon.

O....and the first pic is of the blueberry plants, the rest are of the clones.

[gotmudatv]

Man I wish your Mango could of worked out for you, I orderd kush seeds and got 10 mango for free. The mango is easy to grow and has a nice thick main cola. But out of 10 seeds I had one female, one hermi and to many males. The kush ALL turned out to be male. I got those from bcseedking. Now I have moved on to seed bank (some of the best prices)and I have orderd all female seeds so i dont have to go through the male part of the grow.