Sunshine mix - where on the East Coast can it be found?

[GreenLeaf420]

Take a small handfull of Pro Mix and put it in a beer cup and fill the cup allmost to the top with water. Stick a PPM pen in the cup and let it sit over night. The PPM will be somewhere around 1100 PPM. That is way to much for clones. I find that they will burn and be very slow to take off. Every time I have told someone this that use Pro Mix they have come back to me and told me that I have solved alot of problems for them.

Allmost every person I have talk to have had problems with the HP. I told them about the PPM and they too told me I have solved so many problems for them. For the PPM in the Sunshine Mix #4 im not sure but i think its about 300-400 PPM.

Stink have you heard of this issue and what is Sunshine #4 anyone know were I can P/U some of that?

[Chronic Chrissy]

Stink have you heard of this issue and what is Sunshine #4 anyone know were I can P/U some of that?

You should find Sunshine mix 4 at any nursery or green house, it's $20 a bale, and is a mixture of peat, perlite, and vermiculite. Watch your pH close to the end of your grow because as it degrades it gets a little acidic, water it with a little soap in the solution so you don't end up with dry pockets. Or check out Coco which has neither of these problems.

[stinkyattic]

Coco gets dry pockets too and should never be allowed to totally dry, because it becomes hydrophobic- an automatic drip system is safest.

I've never heard of that problem, but I've also never cloned into soilless (I tried coco once but wasn't happy with my results and discovered my Clonex was no good anyway, lol). I use rapidrooters for cloning, with dip-n-grow.

[GreenLeaf420]

Coco gets dry pockets too and should never be allowed to totally dry, because it becomes hydrophobic- an automatic drip system is safest.

I've never heard of that problem, but I've also never cloned into soilless (I tried coco once but wasn't happy with my results and discovered my Clonex was no good anyway, lol). I
use rapidrooters for cloning, with dip-n-grow.

I'm cloned out STINK this is not for cloning please change the name if you get a chance. It is for straight grow from clones I don't no were to find sunshine #4 mix on the East Coast. For that matter just a good soil with less problems or high levels like they claim the Pro Mix contains. I've try ed LOWE'S H/D Wall Mart By me has a SHIT any other suggestions. I can not call the local nursery and have them drop a few yards,,, LOL

Maybe Pro Mix Fixed there shit considering Tranobles thread is from 2005 I just donot want to chance it....

I need some advice Thanks to all GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

I do not want to regret killing the beauty's but for the record WH was so right Root Bound 100 percent the hydrotone was like soil holding onto the roots.....

[GreenLeaf420]

Sun Gro Horticulture | Retail Locator (http://www.sungro.com/retail_locator.php)

no one in a 100 lime radius of my house carries the #4 just went to their SITE....

They recommended Martha's Anyone here of that?

Dam STINK you are fast girl....:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[stinkyattic]

Never heard of it but on the East Coast you should be able to find an Agway (except that you are urban?). They have a generic peat-lime-vermi mix that I'm trying out for the first time now. I don't have an EC meter but it's worth looking into.

Thread title any better for ya?

[GreenLeaf420]

Sure it is. You are a little to fast for me I'm on my first cup of Coffee.. LOL

I called all the Distributers and none are carrying the #4 or any W/O Pathogens...

[GreenLeaf420]

http://www.sungro.com/2007_Catalog.pdf

Here is a link to all there Soils #4 seems to be the best for salt build up and plants that require leeching....

STINKY if you can please check out the diffrent # 1-8 and let me know if you feel one may better then #4 Pretty PLEASE :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thanks in advanced GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

My local Hydro store said they can Pick it up for me.....:smokin:

It definelty seems to be Top of line for our needs.....

Takes a While to boot up....

[Chronic Chrissy]

How much are you paying? I pay 3.99 for a brick of coco and it expands to more that 50L. Plus they are easy to move and store.

[GreenLeaf420]

Hey I see how strong you are on the COCO. I just experimented and it cost me over 20,000 probably. I don't want to play with any new shit. I'm going back to the basics cause it is summer,hot,humidity and a lot of variables + new things pop up when you try new products.

I just want to blow out a good good crop.

It's 40.00 a bail 3.8 cubic Compressed

My beds will be 4x12 I figure 3 bails tops I ordered 4 hoping I will only need 2 and I will get 2 grows out of it. Check it out read up on it. It is good for leaching and for plants that have salt build ups as well as drainage...

All the problems we have with our TREES....

Good Luck and I am Sorry if I came off nasty I just want to keep it simple.....

GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

Here is there Catalog Check It out http://www.sungro.com/2007_Catalog.pdf

[stinkyattic]

The #4 is what I see a lot of growers using. Hopefully, you won't have salting problems anyway, but soil lightness is a good quality. REad the why I shoudl re-pot thread in the FAQs too, whcih will help you avoid the most common pitfalls of soilless growing.

I can't stand when sites stick their catalogs in .pdf... my Adobe likes to crash my browser :( It's a lot better since switching to FireFox but still loads up slower than molasses in January.

[GreenLeaf420]

I can't stand when sites stick their catalogs in .pdf... my Adobe likes to crash my browser :( It's a lot better since switching to FireFox but still loads up slower than molasses in January.

Yes totally agree took me forever to open then crash double time to just open. That #1 may be good to mix with the #4 the hydro store I deal with in Brooklyn can get 1-3-5 Immediatly I really want the #4 will see what happens. They said I could speak with the East Coast Sales Rep of the product which they always let me do. You know Cathy from Hydro Farm. She is so so so much Knowledge. Well my fathers day gift arrived. One of those $1800 mounatin bikes. I can't beleive she went that crazy

Thanks for running through there catalog:thumbsup:

GL420:jointsmile::jointsmile::jointsmile:

[GreenLeaf420]

OK they said they could get it but WHEN? I dont think it will be in time being that PROMIX is light and airy. I feel that the medium is to light for all the roots in the BED. STINK WH SNS everyone do you think some type of top soil w/o pathogens should be added. The FF shit is enticing but the headaches are to follow. I went to all local nursery's I called SunGro the girl in the hydro shop gives me her cell#. I really want to just get something that i will be comfortable with. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.......

[slater]

califorina hydroponics, in syracuse , new york carries it...dunno if that will help

[Forwhat420]

y dont you order some to a friends?

[GreenLeaf420]

y dont you order some to a friends?

$250.00 SHIPPING COST THOUGHT THAT ONE OUT....469.00 FOR 4 BAILS SARACUSE HERE WE COME!!!!!

[GreenLeaf420]

califorina hydroponics, in syracuse , new york carries it...dunno if that will help

Four Hours Seventeen Minutes away from my house....:thumbsup:

[GreenLeaf420]

Tell your Hydro Shop to Order from Hydro Farm It is on the 2nd page of their wholesale catologue..... Good Shit #1 is the same just less perlite 5% to be exact.

[allrollsin21]

I have seen people have success with this mixture:
1/3 Sunshine #4
1/3 MJR potting soil
1/3 Perlite

Specifically in containers. The plants i saw were the picture of health. What da ya'll think of that mixture?

I am using Aurora Innovations Roots Organic 707 20L grow bags. I planted right into the bags with no added anything. The plants seem to be taking to it. It was 21.95 a bag at my local hydroshop.
Actually i topdressed them with .5 Cuft of ffof. Basically just to cover the feeder roots on top

[GreenLeaf420]

I think that the sunshine is great to blast them with NUTES and not have a Prob. (Knock on Wood) The FFOF adding is just a potential possible problem with lock out or burn. I feel the FF soil is very troublesome. That just IMO I've seen people work with it and have good results. The mix I'm using now is sunshine #1 It is the same soil compound just with 5% less perlite. I think they will like it better in the later stages time will tell....


Good Luck GL