Problems with my baby hash plants

[essencevfx]

Hi Everyone, So happy that this forum is here to help out new growers like me :)

I have 10 Hash plant started from seed about 2 weeks ago. Im starting to get really concerned, finding a lot of yellowing in the leaf tips.

I started them in 1/3 vermecilite , 1/3 peat , 1/3 soil from my garden.


The more I read I feel like they are not getting any nutirients from that soil mixture.

So I started to intruduce some nurtrients last week.

Set 1 ; bone meal tea ; realized the is NOT good for vedging plants now

Step 2 ; vedg 'tea' from my compost ; grabed a few handfuls of material from the bottom of my compost mostly leaves, and boiled in to a tea, diluted this down quite a lot and watered the plants.

Step 3 ; just last 2 days started using 'real' nutirients Shultz All purpose plant food 10/15/10, delivered it @ 1/4 strength with watering.

Seems like none of this is helping my plants , they are growing, but shouldent they be bigger then this after 14 days ?


THANKS FOR ALL THE HELP :)


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This one has the worst yellowing of the 10.

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Heres a bit of a close up, should they have more growth at this point ? That poor little runt in the back :(

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Some are dark green, some are starting to yellow on the edges

[essencevfx]

Hey guys ...anyone have a thought...do I need more nutrients becuase my soil mix was pretty dead (Peat, vermicile, bit of garden soil)

Thanks !

Heres some pics from tonight.

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Thanks Guys ....PLEASE HELP....This is all new to me

[daihashi]

You're plants are getting burned. They're too young for nutrients at this stage.

Run a good flush through them and make sure you end up with your ph somewhere between 6.3 and 6.8.

[stinkyattic]

If you use peat in the soil mix, you MUST use lime too. Peat needs to be buffered against low pH. That soil looks too wet as well. The plants aren't bad yet, but you should plan to transplant into a light, airy, pH correct potting mix ASAP. You can find ProMix BX or HP at any garden center or nursery, or use a good humus compost with plenty of extra perlite for drainage.

[essencevfx]

THANKS :)

Will be transplanting tonight , How big should I pot in I wonder.

I don't have the space to let them get too large, So I assume a smaller container ( 1 gallon milk jug with the top cut off ?)

Im also goint to pick up a better PH monitor , I just have the cheap soil test kit rightnow.

They are looking better though. Do you think they are nute burned ? They seem to have perked up after I added the Shultz ..

Thanks for all the help, Ill keep you posted :)

[stinkyattic]

Even smaller- just enough so that there's about an inch of fresh, light soil all around the root ball. So from a 3" pot, you'd go up to a 5 or 6" pot, whcih is a quart, or equivalent to a 6" tall section from a HALF gallon milk jug with the top cut off and of course punched all full of holes and covered in duct tape. Or you could just look in the cellar for used perennials pots, but I'd rinse them and run through the dishwasher first in case of pests.

[essencevfx]

Hi Guys and gals, Please check out my Log

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-log/152975-my-first-hash-plant-mm-seeds-vancouver.html

For the latest on these girls.


Thanks :)

[essencevfx]

well everything was going good, then I just noticed a bit of yellowing again. And then this poor little plant has damage in a lot of areas ?

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Any ideas ? ...to much nute, not enough maybe ? I just LST 'd them a bit last night and noticed the damage.

Thing is , last 2 waterings have been straight water ...so i added a few nutes last night.


THANKS !

[Mr. Clandestine]

Are you keeping tabs on your soil pH? I notice that you've got them in milk jugs, are there any drainage holes at the bottom? If not, you may want to think about drilling some in the bottom to allow for better drainage in the event of overwatering. This will also allow you to test the pH of your runoff water, which will tell you roughly where your soil pH stands. Extremes in pH will lock out nutrients, sometimes making the plants look deficient of a certain element, or elements. Like Stinky mentioned, real peaty soils need to be buffered to keep the pH from dropping too low.

If everything pH-wise is in a good range, you might think about bumping the ppm of your fertilizer just a bit. I'd recommend getting your hands on a veg fert that's higher in Nitrogen than it is in Phosphorus and Potassium. Plants need more N in veg, and more P&K in flower.

[essencevfx]

Thank you for the reply. I have re planted since in ProMix Organic mix, So Im assuming that is a much better soil then what I had before.

The only PH kit I have is one of those cheap soil test kits from hardware store. But I'll check it tonight with that .


Thanks again !

[essencevfx]

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[essencevfx]

ok last night was a night of changes


FINALY got around to doing some ph testing. Even though I was stuck using one of those cheap testers with the little green pills . I did each test 3 times though and averaged the result, just because Ive heard these testers arent the greatest.

Anyways,
Water is @ about 6.8 - 7.0 But then when i tested the run off , it was around 6.0

It allso came out looking pretty brown ? the water runoff that is.

So anyways I flushed them all last night and managed to get a run off of about 6.2 .

I didnt add ANY nutes though yet , should I add nutrients direclt after the flush, or wait and let the plants relax a bit till next watering to add 1/2 strenght Nutes ?

As well , I finally put a thermometer / hydrometer with the plants, I know I know should have done that WAY sooner. So the temp was over 90. So obviously I had the plants way to close to the lights , and not enough moving air.

So I rose the light , lowered the plants and have the temp now about 80. So thats better, but im going to need a few more small fans I think to move the air better.

So thats where Im at. Could adding thenutes raise the soil PH even more to get it nearer 6.8 ish ?



THANKS !
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