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paparose
02-08-2008, 01:17 PM
This WR grown in hydro, 2000ppm, 4th week of flowering
The only nutrients we have around contains following in 1000gr
Calcium Nitrate 18%Ca 14%N 45.6 gr
Potassium Nitrate 39%K 14%N 56gr
MonoPotassium Phospat (MKP) 28%K 22%P 23gr
Magnezium sulphate %10Mn %13S 29gr
manganese Sulphate %25Mn S%14 0.12gr
Boric Acid %17B 0.15gr
Zinc Sulphate %13Zn 0.06gr
Copper Sulphate %25 Cu 0.02gr
Sodium Molipdat %38Mo 0.0025gr
Iron EDTA
%12.5Fe 1.6 gr
Buds are not forming the way I like in hydro, The last set of leaves are quite big but budding is not as great. Leaves in hydro are much darker and look glazed comparing to the one in soil. We have another clone from the same mother in soil that we put under 12/12 at the same time as we did for hydros. So far the one in soil formed much bulkier bud wheras WR in hydro developped fluffy buds and even she produced buds on leaf stalks.
The temps is 70F humıdity 35% under 1X 400Mh and 2X 430hps. girls in soil are doing better so far. My only suspicion is the nutrients we give is not suitable for our hydro ladies.
Unfortunately this is the only hydro nutrient available around here.
experts tell me what to do?
How do these buds look to you? Any advice?

zebulon
02-08-2008, 01:36 PM
I think you have a light leak...or some irregularity in the light cycle...but of course i am not sure.....:thumbsup:

beginerbuddah
02-08-2008, 01:39 PM
if it was a light leak then wouldnt the other plants in soil be afected too?

Weedhound
02-08-2008, 01:55 PM
I think you need some true hydro nutes for one thing.....I can't even slightly tell from your list what's useful and what's not and I have a feeling your plants are saying the same thing.

Quite honestly I've never seen plants look like that.....i GUESS they are budding but I don't really know because they're just bizarre looking.

The only thing I can recommend is better nutes. Your ph is ok right? You didn't list it but I have a feeling that's not a ph issue......they look like like mutants so I have to figure its your nutes. What kind of water are you using?

stinkyattic
02-08-2008, 02:36 PM
Calcium and Potassium both delivered as their Nitrate salts. Too much N. Too high ppms. Some deformation of sugar leaves can come from genetics but the deep green color and lack of mass points to N overdose.
Switch to a correct hydroponic BLOOM nute immediately. Drop your ppms until you know that the plants can handle it.

paparose
02-08-2008, 03:27 PM
Ph is ok, water is tap water but we leave it for 48 hours to evaporate chlorine, Plants are not Lsted. They are not forming colas the way they should, here is the other WR in soil, taken from the same mother as hydro WRs, much lighter green and smaller leaves. but this one is performing better, much better look in colas.
center WR in soil, left and right WR in hydros

paparose
02-08-2008, 03:30 PM
Stinky Attic, whats the correct level of ppm at this stage? Should we lower it to 1500ppm or less?

basementbotany
02-08-2008, 03:44 PM
i'm pretty new at this hydro thing myself, but i would keep my ppm's at about 1400 right now, then about week 6 take them up to 1600, then depending on strain, i would flush about week 8 or 9 for a week. i do my work w/o checking ppm's so you might want to wait on stinky for a second opinion.

basementbotany
02-08-2008, 03:45 PM
also, take weedhound's advice and switch up the nutes. get something more compatible for hydro, and use what you already have for your soil plant as it seems to be working fine in soil.

paparose
02-08-2008, 04:01 PM
for soil I have biobizz organic 2-6-4 which work pefect. but for hydro thats the only nute I can get. İf there is DIY hydroponic nutrients I would like to give it a try. Is there anything (chemical or organic) I can add to water as nute for flowering?

basementbotany
02-08-2008, 05:53 PM
ROAD TRIP!!!! or just grow in soil for now on.

basementbotany
02-08-2008, 05:55 PM
you can buy all nutes online btw.

stinkyattic
02-08-2008, 05:56 PM
I'm not really a hydro person but yeah, 1400 is as high as you'd really want to go, and you REALLY need a correct nute, or just stick with soil if all you can get is soil nutes. You consider mail-ordering something?

paparose
02-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Unfortunately they would not ship fertilizers overseas, I already checked amazon

Weedhound
02-09-2008, 01:18 PM
I grew the WR in hydro and had no problems so I honestly believe the issues is your nutes. Unfortunately I can only see one way to fix it.....get better nutes.