whats wrong w this bud

[paparose]

This WR grown in hydro, 2000ppm, 4th week of flowering
The only nutrients we have around contains following in 1000gr
Calcium Nitrate 18%Ca 14%N 45.6 gr
Potassium Nitrate 39%K 14%N 56gr
MonoPotassium Phospat (MKP) 28%K 22%P 23gr
Magnezium sulphate %10Mn %13S 29gr
manganese Sulphate %25Mn S%14 0.12gr
Boric Acid %17B 0.15gr
Zinc Sulphate %13Zn 0.06gr
Copper Sulphate %25 Cu 0.02gr
Sodium Molipdat %38Mo 0.0025gr
Iron EDTA
%12.5Fe 1.6 gr
Buds are not forming the way I like in hydro, The last set of leaves are quite big but budding is not as great. Leaves in hydro are much darker and look glazed comparing to the one in soil. We have another clone from the same mother in soil that we put under 12/12 at the same time as we did for hydros. So far the one in soil formed much bulkier bud wheras WR in hydro developped fluffy buds and even she produced buds on leaf stalks.
The temps is 70F humıdity 35% under 1X 400Mh and 2X 430hps. girls in soil are doing better so far. My only suspicion is the nutrients we give is not suitable for our hydro ladies.
Unfortunately this is the only hydro nutrient available around here.
experts tell me what to do?
How do these buds look to you? Any advice?

paparose Reviewed by paparose on 02-08-2008. whats wrong w this bud This WR grown in hydro, 2000ppm, 4th week of flowering The only nutrients we have around contains following in 1000gr Calcium Nitrate 18%Ca 14%N 45.6 gr Potassium Nitrate 39%K 14%N 56gr MonoPotassium Phospat (MKP) 28%K 22%P 23gr Magnezium sulphate %10Mn %13S 29gr manganese Sulphate %25Mn S%14 0.12gr Boric Acid %17B 0.15gr Zinc Sulphate %13Zn 0.06gr Copper Sulphate %25 Cu 0.02gr Rating: 5

[zebulon]

I think you have a light leak...or some irregularity in the light cycle...but of course i am not sure.....:thumbsup:

[beginerbuddah]

if it was a light leak then wouldnt the other plants in soil be afected too?

[Weedhound]

I think you need some true hydro nutes for one thing.....I can't even slightly tell from your list what's useful and what's not and I have a feeling your plants are saying the same thing.

Quite honestly I've never seen plants look like that.....i GUESS they are budding but I don't really know because they're just bizarre looking.

The only thing I can recommend is better nutes. Your ph is ok right? You didn't list it but I have a feeling that's not a ph issue......they look like like mutants so I have to figure its your nutes. What kind of water are you using?

[stinkyattic]

Calcium and Potassium both delivered as their Nitrate salts. Too much N. Too high ppms. Some deformation of sugar leaves can come from genetics but the deep green color and lack of mass points to N overdose.
Switch to a correct hydroponic BLOOM nute immediately. Drop your ppms until you know that the plants can handle it.

[paparose]

Ph is ok, water is tap water but we leave it for 48 hours to evaporate chlorine, Plants are not Lsted. They are not forming colas the way they should, here is the other WR in soil, taken from the same mother as hydro WRs, much lighter green and smaller leaves. but this one is performing better, much better look in colas.
center WR in soil, left and right WR in hydros

[paparose]

Stinky Attic, whats the correct level of ppm at this stage? Should we lower it to 1500ppm or less?

[basementbotany]

i'm pretty new at this hydro thing myself, but i would keep my ppm's at about 1400 right now, then about week 6 take them up to 1600, then depending on strain, i would flush about week 8 or 9 for a week. i do my work w/o checking ppm's so you might want to wait on stinky for a second opinion.

[basementbotany]

also, take weedhound's advice and switch up the nutes. get something more compatible for hydro, and use what you already have for your soil plant as it seems to be working fine in soil.

[paparose]

for soil I have biobizz organic 2-6-4 which work pefect. but for hydro thats the only nute I can get. İf there is DIY hydroponic nutrients I would like to give it a try. Is there anything (chemical or organic) I can add to water as nute for flowering?