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Rock.Steady
04-01-2008, 02:58 AM
really tho...

how big does this strain get?

how big was that monster XC grew?

Weedhound
04-01-2008, 03:17 AM
How about square pots........do they come in four gallon?

Rock.Steady
04-01-2008, 04:09 AM
well, i cant see the reason to only go to 4 gal squares.

my main point was stress.
these are not small to begin with, 2-3 gal size,
the plants are BIG
this is easily a 2 person job if we are in synch
5 gal.s would be the next logical size.

i guess after stress, my biggest concern is how long this will add to the cycle.

and

how big will they get then with a 5 gal pot?????????

and what about that big rootmass?
ill have to cut it off, wont that shock the plant?

and, after i cut it off,
can i rinse it out and put it in a hydro setup??????


i think i need some more help from the dirty crew.
where's Stinky and X-C

stinkyattic
04-01-2008, 01:44 PM
I'd go for 5 gallon pails. Drill many large (1/2-3/4") holes in the bottom AND SIDES. Let the root ball dry out pretty well before the transplant. This will make it LIGHTER and less likely to break apart under its own weight, as well as just slipping neatly out of the pot.
Transplanting is not stressful if you follow those basic guidelines.
I wouldn't try to switch soil to hydro though- THAt is stressful!
For side lighting, I don't recommend CFLS under the canopy because they are hot and can dry or scorch leaves. But a 2 foot flourescent fixture with a daylight T12 tube in each corner of the box would be just peachy! T12s run very cool and can be in extended contact with leaves with no significant damage.

Weedhound
04-01-2008, 04:06 PM
HA!!! :D Thanks Stinkster! Hee hee.. :jointsmile:

Rock.Steady
04-01-2008, 10:22 PM
ok, thanks Stinky.
well, i guess its off to find some 5s.

hey, what i meant with the hydro wasnt a switch, just that root section i have to cut off the bottom of the pot.

what if i were to take only those roots and put em in some hydro?

Weedhound
04-02-2008, 01:27 AM
They won't grow.......

Rock.Steady
04-03-2008, 12:56 AM
holy shit this project has spawned a life of its own.
I'm really not positive I shoulda transplanted at this stage of flower, but, im gonna trust u girls.

i drilled like mad on bottom and also 2-3 inches up from bottom with a unibit.

here's a buttload of pics

Rock.Steady
04-03-2008, 12:57 AM
more,,,,

Rock.Steady
04-03-2008, 12:59 AM
last set

last pic is root section sacrificed that had grown into the drip tray on Maria.

Weedhound
04-03-2008, 01:18 AM
I'm really not positive I shoulda transplanted at this stage of flower, but, im gonna trust u girls.




This is the kind of statement I LOVE to hear after all this time......it REALLY kills you to take direction doesn't it?

Rock.Steady
04-03-2008, 01:29 AM
Hound,
Maria is forming colas. pretty ez to see in the pics.
Thats all i meant. the other 2 i did without hesitation.

it has nothing to do with direction or the director. its the fact that these are freakin gargantuan and i am worried they might be stressed.
considering they are doing so well, i want them to finish well too, thats all.
I mean, Maria is in week 6 somethin, isnt she supposed to be finished soon?

thats all, nothing else.

Weedhound
04-03-2008, 03:25 AM
When I think of the TORTURE that poor last plant of yours endured....as it STRUGGLED to get to the end........and it STILL had to come from Stinky before you did it anyway so don't try to butter me up......:wtf:

Weedhound
04-03-2008, 03:28 AM
Anyway...now they should kick into some good gear for the end. Don't be all touching them and shit now........go ignore them again.....but do water them....

rhizome
04-03-2008, 04:09 AM
God, Weedy- you've created a monster... :thumbsup:


Rock- them there are looking pretty nice... How's it feel?

Weedhound
04-03-2008, 01:15 PM
I swear Rhizome I'm going to beat that man with a REALLY big stick!! :wtf:

stinkyattic
04-03-2008, 01:42 PM
I swear Rhizome I'm going to beat that man with a REALLY big stick!! From YOUR redwood tree, or HIS?

Weedhound
04-03-2008, 01:52 PM
Lol, whichever one of ours is THICKER!!!! :D

Rock.Steady
04-04-2008, 10:53 PM
Stinky, i doubt ill be able to afford the T- lites u mentioned, for a few reasons. we'll just have to hope for the best from the 250HPS.
Rhiz, yeah, makes me happy.
WH, i will let them do their thing.



here are the new sizes,
2 days after the transplanting and a soaking-watering.

Maria 30inch
Oksana 36inch
Petra 43inch

they seem to have kinda slowed on verticle growth.
seems more flower activity.
and they are gettin kinda aromatic;)

and a pic.

this will definately be a personal best.
and, within 1 year of starting this adventure.

Weedhound
04-04-2008, 11:17 PM
You're gonna like the finished product. ;)

Rock.Steady
04-11-2008, 12:31 AM
ok, vertical growth definately looks to be done.
here's the totals, at tip of flower to soil.

Maria 30 inches (day 40) stopped near a week ago.
Oksana 36 inches (day 32) stopped days ago.
Petra 45 inches (day 32) grew only 2 in since last record, should be done now.

I have checked my charts and am adjusting 'flower' days records to start the day preflowers were seen, not just when i pushed them into the cycle. seems more true records.

Maria's lowest leaves have been yellowin, wiltin, droopin, droppin, and also ez to remove w a lil tug, for the past 5-7 days or so. Oksana and Petra have started doing the same for the past few days.

I may have to move these around a lil to make room for a couple in veg that are gettin a lil too big. maybe this weekend, unless maybe i top the 3 larger veggers hoping to slow em a lil..

i feel like these prolly would benefit from another 4 weeks or so for a total of about 9 wks in flwr.
even tho the canopy doesnt let a lot of lite to the lower branches, they r still developin flowrs, but smaller. i hope that doesnt divert too much energy to affect the results. Maria is definately more dense for development.
its definately obvious which one has an extra week of flwr, Maria's colas r startin to look really cool, they r already fatter than the fattest her cousin Galina had, and she has weeks to go.

gave watering w BigBloom and KoolBloom yesterday, first watering since the flooding after transplant (pretty sure:stoned:). wanted to make sure they dry a lil.
flower power is full-on:hippy:

Maria, front left (on tall box)
Oksana, right (on short box)
Petra, back. (on floor)

3 more pix, nxt post ;)

Rock.Steady
04-11-2008, 12:32 AM
ok, last pix, :D

Rock.Steady
04-19-2008, 10:26 PM
10 days later,,,,
i have officially re-named this the JUNGLE room:wtf:

its actually kinda a problem in a way,,,,,

i need to move some veggers in here, but,,,there's no more room:wtf:

left, front.
Maria day 49

left, rear
Oksana day 41

right, rear
Petra day 41

Right front
M3 (Maria clone) day 7 after 5 wks veg and topped when moved to flwr.

Right middle (hard to see)
ASH2 (Adjan's Strawberry Haze) day 7 after 5 wks veg and topped when moved to flwr.

there is absolutely NO room left under the 250 HPS.
this is actually a problem right now:wtf:

I am hoping for Maria to finish in next 2 wks.
i did take a sample yesterday and its not bad, but needs more time.

Weedhound
04-19-2008, 11:13 PM
Wow too much nice ganja....you poor soul. Well feel free to send me some and I'll be happy to take it off your hands. :D

LiGhT420
04-20-2008, 02:14 AM
nice plants man i hope mine turn out somethign close to that lol goodluck

Rock.Steady
04-24-2008, 11:17 PM
sooooooooooooo,,,BIOASSY TIME:D

truth be told, theres been a fair share of samples in the past week, yeah, i know, will slightly decrease yield, but, um, ok, ill accept that side effect:stoned:

trichs been gradually gettin cloudy, still about 1-2 weeks by my estimate, based on the performance of the last Russian. end of month will be exactly day 60, im thinkin around day 65-70 she be goin down,,,in a big way:cool:

she had nutes for the last time last weekend. one more good soaking this weekend, then she'll be forced to do without to help the drying process.




btw- bioassy? oh yeah,,,very heady!!!:pimp:


one other SHOCKING note-
Oksana actually has roots coming out of bottom of 5 GALLLON BUCKET!!!:jawdropper:
um, yeah, i guess i figured out how to grow in soil without screwin up:wtf::cool:

Rock.Steady
04-24-2008, 11:20 PM
Wow too much nice ganja....you poor soul. Well feel free to send me some and I'll be happy to take it off your hands. :D

well, sure, stop by and help with the bioassy;)

GreenZero
04-29-2008, 04:09 AM
Long time reader , first time poster.

Loved following through the log. Buds look legit and frosty :D!

Rock it looks fantastic.

Mad props.

Rock.Steady
04-30-2008, 01:59 AM
Welcome GZ, thanks.
each of those nugs dried into nice bowls each.
btw-i can stick my thumb in that bowl :wtf:

i def took a bunch off this plant, its how i been gettin by:stoned:
im hopin it can finish up this weekend, the other 2 will be done around a week or so later:thumbsup:

there are killer colas on Petra and Oksana.:yippee:

GreenZero
04-30-2008, 02:46 AM
That is going to be so sick. Those plants are going to be so nugglishish.

Well that is why I really liked this grow log. It showed all the little steps into making a killer grow (Granted some advice was given). You did all the work tho'. IMO that is what makes this all the better!

<---Starting a grow soon. Have a great outdoor location.

:)

zebulon
05-06-2008, 10:36 PM
Hey Rock....any updates ?? How are the Russians??? and the ASH?? some budshots would be nice.....:jointsmile:

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 01:59 AM
the flower room is now over populated.
M3 and ASH2 are flowering. (week4)
i pushed ASH1 and G2 (Galina's old clone) in there last weekend. I had to due to size issues with all in the grow closet.
also, all 4 in grow had a bad reaction with the Liquid light, for reasons i am not 100% sure of yet, there are other possible factors.

Maria had been "sampled" into near-coma, my bad, I know, but it was nesesary(bad week 4 me and no meds:().
During my week-long sampling raids. Petra and Oksana caught up with Maria's maturity level.
All 3 had cloudy trichs as of sunday.
the plan is to fire up the chainsaws this coming Sunday.:chainsaw:
the colas are incredible!

these are the absolute biggest colas i have ever personally seen in my life!

this grow (Maria, Oksana, Petra) is a personal best yet.:D
I cannot wait to see this hanging:pimp:

will try for pix tomorow.

here's a sneak peek, ASH2 (wk4), 3 days ago.

zebulon
05-07-2008, 11:32 AM
:woohoo: harvest time....can't wait to see those cloas....:dance:

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 10:51 PM
in various order.
Petra, Oksana (wk9)
Maria (sampled too much:wtf:, wk10)
the largest are Petra, Oksana, Maria in that order and magnitude.
Petra's largest cola is 3 inch fat and 12 inch long,,,
its almost obscene:wtf:
i cant even guess what that one alone must weigh:jawdropper:

I'm 95% sure they come down this weekend.:cool:

ASH1 and M3 are in wk4 and flowering like crazy:D



get some popcorn, i blazed b4 gettin the pix, so , i have a couple dozen.:pimp:

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 10:54 PM
pix-2

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 10:56 PM
and more

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 10:58 PM
still more

Rock.Steady
05-07-2008, 11:00 PM
last set.
enjoy:jointsmile:

bombdiggity
05-08-2008, 02:00 AM
im speachless


+rep

GreenZero
05-08-2008, 02:43 AM
That just made my smoke so much more enjoyable.

:thumbsup:

Technique2
05-08-2008, 09:01 AM
VERY impressive Rock!

What I enjoyed about this thread was that fact that men could disagree, debate, and reason with complete contraint. BIG thumbs up to you all for the insights and advice provided.

This grow will definitely help me in my infantile stage of growing. I am similar to WH in that I like to let nature be the first to adjust; then I will add/subtract to offset anything issue that arises.

Seems to keep me intrigued this way.

Anyway GREAT grow Rock! Nice to see TOTALLY positive results.

And I didn't really see an IN-DEPTH write up on the Blaze Session involving Miss Maria (whom you sampled to near death LOL!

Shovelhandle
05-08-2008, 10:13 AM
Those are excellent.

zebulon
05-08-2008, 11:59 AM
Beautiful, those top colas are huge, you could knock somebody down whit those....:D

Nice work Rock....:thumbsup:

Weedhound
05-08-2008, 06:13 PM
klunk!

That's me fainting from the sight of those GORGEOUS colas!!!

VERY impressive Rock.....really.

Excellent work! :thumbsup:

Rock.Steady
05-08-2008, 10:12 PM
,,,,,

And I didn't really see an IN-DEPTH write up on the Blaze Session involving Miss Maria (whom you sampled to near death LOL!

well, simply put, not really ready, but did provide what i needed for about 7-10 days.:pimp:

i will provide a better report once dried.;)

i think its time to visit mom's and raid the mason jar collection:wtf:

and thanks for all the kind words gang. I couldnt have done it without WeedHound:thumbsup:

Rock.Steady
05-13-2008, 11:09 PM
upon careful study today,,,

what the hell is that???

pink fuzzy stuff???

mold?
rot?

she came down immediately:chainsaw:

Weedhound
05-14-2008, 12:23 AM
SHIT! I've never seen that before....chop those fuckers.

Dude you're trying to do so much and your work schedule is messing you up here.....sorry about your troubles.

Damn work.....I hate it too.

Can you grab some serenade or something and spray if you can?

Sorry about your hydro kids also.....;(

That looked very suspiciously like overnute on your other thread.

Fucking NICE cola in your avatar.

Again...sorry about the mold there.

Rock.Steady
05-14-2008, 05:05 AM
hey, since i caught it early, if i let it dry really good, it 'should' be ok, right?
i mean,. ive gotten bagged bud with lil dry fuzzy spots before.

totally,.totally goofs me out that it turned pink,
freakin pink of all colors, eh, its a girls color, so, i guess it makes some kinda cosmic sense.

i did give a strong exam to the other badassed colas (nearly 2x as fat) and they seem fine so far.
with this new issue, they all come down this weekend.
I was trying to wait for some ambers, but we've got wall to wall cloudies and the samples have been handing me my skull:thumbsup:

i was dam impressed, look at the totally tubular stalk:jawdropper:

definately at least a z left from what was probably double that if i hadnt sampled like a luny tune


gonna get a humidity meter, need to see if thats an issue or this is just an isolated incident.

Weedhound
05-14-2008, 11:00 AM
If this is on the plant that you "nearly sampled to death" most likely the stress caused the issue....messing the with plant's immunity system. I'm pretty sure that's what happened to my white rhinos.......they had k def issues etc and they are the only ones I've had (so far......) that got any mold (DESPITE humidity in the 30's) so I vote for stress.

I'd be scared to smoke that......honestly. W/my rhino I cut away the dead spots (there weren't very many) but I don't know how much you have on that plant.

Rock.Steady
05-14-2008, 11:41 PM
ok, ill buy the stress factor. the other plants look great, totally High Times cover shots:D
i'm not too worried about smokin it. ive smoked moldy bud, it just tastes crappy:stoned:
also, it was only 2 isolated spots and i de-fuzzed it (brushed it out) ill break up that cola really good after the initial drying to be sure it gets dry.
ill also isolate that in its own jar eventually as a precaution, if it goes bad, itll only affect a small portion..

i will likely take down Petra and Oksana this weekend anyways, they are huge n killer.
i was trying to wait for some ambers, but the couple samples have been awesome.:cool:

Weedhound
05-14-2008, 11:44 PM
Did I mention (ask the kids would say.....)

Dude that is a SICK looking bud in your avatar. :D :thumbsup:

Rock.Steady
05-15-2008, 12:05 AM
Did I mention (ask the kids would say.....)

Dude that is a SICK looking bud in your avatar. :D :thumbsup:

Thanks so much WH!:D
Yeah,. thats my crown jewel, Petra:pimp:
she's the tallest at 45 in, ridiculous colas, but, kinda thin down low.
on the other hand, Oksana at 36 inches has very nice colas and lil lollipop buds everywhere.:cool:


I promise a full, detailed pictorial on both, at the end.;)

Shovelhandle
05-15-2008, 12:34 AM
:D nice

Rock.Steady
05-19-2008, 02:03 AM
name-Oksana
strain-Blue Russian
Day 70
36 inches tall

Weedhound
05-19-2008, 02:10 AM
So Rock your opinion on the high from these Blue russians?

Rock.Steady
05-19-2008, 02:23 AM
name-Petra
strain-Blue Russian
Day 70
45 inches tall

colas 12inch and 15 inch.

Rock.Steady
05-19-2008, 02:27 AM
i couldnt decide wich pic i liked.
Oksana on left
Petra on right

Oksana smells extra sweet like berries!

Rock.Steady
05-19-2008, 02:33 AM
So Rock your opinion on the high from these Blue russians?

i dig the buzz.
sometimes knocks me on my ass, but usually i get some stuff done, which is better for me.
keep in mind, i still havent had properly cured, but will soon.
currently enjoying Maria's slightly moldy cola.

the top cola was 4g

all of what i had was about 25g's
I would say she woudla yeilded close to 40-50 g's had i left her alone and not sampled.

I cant imagine what these 2 monsters are gonna bring in dried:jawdropper:

I almost felt bad for a minute today. and almost let them go another week, ..
then i said, todays the day and just plucked and snipped like crazy:pimp:

Weedhound
05-19-2008, 03:00 AM
Oh they look ready.


PARTY AT ROCKS!!! :D

SKYTZO
07-12-2009, 09:54 AM
but rick? is that you man? delete it if you dont want
want ur name on here but message me or something
if it is you