First Ever Grow, Obviously

[cmasfca]

Hello All!

This will be my third attempt at creating a grow log. The first one was posted in the wrong section and the second log was lost when I hit submit and the server was down. Doh!

Anyways, do not be deceived by my grow log composition. I am in fact a newbie and if it were not for Weedhound, Pharmacan, and MVP I would be even more clueless than I am now. So, here's to you guys and gal! :jointsmile:

Basics:
Aeroponic (sprinklers x3)
400w HPS
2 Atomic Haze (F1 Atomic NL x Haze)
6 Arctic Sun (F1 Whitewidow x Skunk #1)
Botanicare ProGrow
Botanicare ProBloom
Botanicare CalMag

For the first 18 hours of their lives, my babies were sitting in my tap water that came out at 8.6 ph and 400 ppm. Eew!

I am now running RO water with the calmag and either ProGrow or ProBloom at a 1:1 ratio. Thanks for the tip Weedhound!

I vegged the babies for one week before flipping the light schedule to 12/12. Need to flower early as I am attempting a SCRoG grow.

29 November 2007 - "Planted"
6 December 2007 - Started flowering

Tomorrow I am completely flushing my system (15 gal) and switching nutes over to ProBloom. The ppms will be 500 calmag and 500 probloom with a total of 1000.

I will also try and edit this post tomorrow to add pictures to this log from my posts in the "Plant Problems" section. Unfortunately I have spent much more time in that section than any other haha.

I wish I had my gf's camera to upload some pictures; these girls are to the point where I want some confirmation that they look and are developing alright.

My sativas seem to develop buds and grow slower than my hybrids. Is this normal?

[MVP]

cmasfca, good to see you getting your Grow Log on... I finally did the same but have yet to bring in the plants! I'll stay tuned and chime in when something catches my eye.

MVP :jointsmile:

[Shovelhandle]

Are these clones, cmasfca?


Shov

[cmasfca]

Shovehandle,

Yes, they are clones bought from a club in San Francisco, CA.

Today I did a full res flush and added 500 ppm calmag and 500 ppm probloom to ro water. Waiting to see the results :)

[cmasfca]

So I am going to try and get a camera from my roommate today so that I can post new pictures for you guys :D

Today I have removed much of the lower foliage that wasn't getting much light and removed a couple fan leaves that were covering bud sites.

PH is 5.8 and ppms is 1010. 77 F and 60% RH

[cmasfca]

Pictures! I borrowed my roommate's camera. Sorry for the quality, I haven't gotten used to all the buttons on it yet :jointsmile:

How do they look?

[cmasfca]

One more, this one is a little better.

[Weedhound]

Wow! Those are really starting to go....yes yes switch them over and up their numbers!! They look GREAT!! Good work. :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

One tip.....go easy on the pruning...too much of it WILL slow down the plants growth and if you do WAY too much (as I did once.....WAY WAY too much) it compromised the yeild of my plants quite a bit.

[cmasfca]

Weedhound,

Thanks for the advice. I have kept it in mind while pruning and I am done with pruning under the screen for the most part. The only other pruning that will need to be done is when bud sites are being covered by leaves coming out of the bud; or so I read.

One thing to note for beginners or at least beginners in terms of aeroponics...

Check the reservoir level! When I flushed mine last time I was ready with three 5 gallon bottles and I only filled 1.5 up with water! The scariest part is that right before I flushed I added at least 2.5 gallons, so that means there were only around 5 gallons in my 15 gallon reservoir! Luckily there was enough so my pump didn't burn itself out, but I need to be better at checking res levels...I am pretty sure that was starting to cause volatile ppm and ph levels because it is super stable now with 15 gallons...

What do you think? Thanks for all your help!

[cmasfca]

Here are my babies when I first put them in the system, this was on 28 November 2007. The new pictures above are from today, 19 December 2007.

So for three weeks of growth, how do they look? I have no comparison, because this is my first time!

[Weedhound]

Yes its easy to forget that they drink alot of water....and yes.....it certainly WILL mess up your numbers. ;)

[cmasfca]

I finished my semester! No school for a month! This means my ladies get my full attention for 4 weeks; that should take me right up to curing stage! Besides working and sleeping, I will be staring at my ladies! No more herb though until harvest :( Well at least right now; that means that I have been smoking roaches and taking resin hits. Maybe that is why my throat is a little sore :(

[MVP]

Sorry to hear that they are drinking too much. If you wanna solve that problem you can just bring them over to my place sometime and I'll take care of them for you... really no problem, I'm generous that way!

MVP :jointsmile:

[cmasfca]

Haha thanks for the offer MVP I'll keep that in mind :D :jointsmile:

Would it be stupid to mail weed in a bag that is inside of a coffee jar that has coffee in it?

[Weedhound]

yes

[MVP]

That is an individual decision. I don't recommend it but if you must, use Fedex than using the USPS for ALL sorts of stuff (including meds) since they are the most reliable outfit when it comes to shipping IMO. Also drop it off within 10 minutes or so of their cutoff time so that it gets into transit immediately. Personally I like gifts of coffee, cologne, and sweatshirts with the smell of freshly dried laundry with lots of dryers sheets. How is that for an xmas gift list....

[cmasfca]

I have a friend growing medicine up in norther cali and I guess it will be better to just drive up there than to risk mailing it :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

yes....drive.....you'll be happy you did....not worth getting caught over and get attention focused on you or your friend....that's one of those things that once you appear on the radar you'll never get off.......

Someone awhile back had a great saying......it's the paranoid ones that will be visiting us in jail.....i try to live by that since once the mistake is made you can't take it back. ;)

[Weedhound]

which gets me to wondering ......my hydro guy sells something called "bear proof camping gear" guaranteed to hide any smell completely....odor proof plastic bags...has to be vaccum sealed to work etc.....that's the ONLY thing I would consider getting by a drug dog with ANY sort of confidence......and I'd STILL worry......

[cmasfca]

When I am thinking about doing something illegal, I plan for the worst case scenario. So, when they bring the dogs in to sniff, I will assume they will smell it through the trunk. Hence, I don't carry any more than I am legally allowed to which is 1 oz.

I'm ok with swapping ounces with my buddy :)

[Shovelhandle]

Pictures! I borrowed my roommate's camera. Sorry for the quality, I haven't gotten used to all the buttons on it yet

How do they look?

Pretty good! just "fiddle" with the buttons some more. LOL

Shovelhandle

[Opie Yutts]

One piece of advice, if you care for that sort of thing. Don't take off so many leaves. The only time you should remove a fan leaf is if it is blocking the light from a bud, or it is in the way of you being able to get your hand to the back of your grow underneath the screen. Plant's grow much better/faster if they have leaves, the more the better.

[LaZ]

Pictures! I borrowed my roommate's camera. Sorry for the quality, I haven't gotten used to all the buttons on it yet :jointsmile:

How do they look?

Was your avatar pic taken with the same camera? Both the pics seem to have that dark yellowish color.

[Opie Yutts]

which gets me to wondering ......my hydro guy sells something called "bear proof camping gear" guaranteed to hide any smell completely....odor proof plastic bags...has to be vaccum sealed to work etc.....that's the ONLY thing I would consider getting by a drug dog with ANY sort of confidence......and I'd STILL worry......

That won't do it. Those dogs have something incredible like 700,000 times more nerve endings in their nose than humans, and each nerve ending is 7 times more powerful than humans' are. Just the fact that you touched a piece of weed, then later in the day touch the plastic bag, is enough to send the dogs into a frenzy.

A friend tried to mail me a coffee can package like you described from Jamaica, and I never got it. Nothing happened to my friend.

[Weedhound]

Opie you know damn well those dogs bagged it, tossed the dope and kept the coffee (and a drip press) for themselves....:D

[cmasfca]

OK so I don't have a camera available but,

The girls are doing awesome! Ph is 6.1, up from 5.9 about 24 hours ago. The ppms have gone from 1010 down to 970 in the same time period. I am thinking of adding 5 gallons of RO water and then upping the ppms to 1200, but I won't do anything until I hear from you guys :)

Thanks for the advice opie. The only reason I cut those leaves was because I read somewhere that in a scrog grow they will wilt and die and could potentially harbor mold because they are under the screen and not too much light penetrates the canopy.

There are trichomes starting to form and it smells so good! I am bummed I have to go home tonight for Christmas lol but next time I check on them they should be even bigger. I will try to get a camera so I can show you guys :D

Merry Christmas!

[MVP]

OK so I don't have a camera available but.....

Dude, I sure hope you get a digicam for Christmas! We want pics!!

MVP :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Cm.....I'm glad you asked me that question. I WOULD take them up to 1200 if I were you but then what I'd like to have you start doing .......starting around week 3 of flower is to start backing off VERY SLOWLY on your Cal Mag. You want to keep them on a 50/50 mix through the second week of flower while they do there big burst thing.....probably what you are seeing right now. Then they start slowing down on the height and making buds. This is when we will want to ease back on the CalMag and introduce more of the Pro Bloom. By week five we'd like a 65/35 ratio of probloom/CalMag. .....topping out at 1200 (perhaps more if they continue to eat like such pigs but we'll wait and see) until the eighth week or so and then flush. If they need to go longer they can just go off ph'd r/o water until they are finished.

Capice? :D

[cmasfca]

Weedhound,

Sounds good! I am going to add 5 gal of RO water today after work then up the ppms to around 1200 with a ratio of 60/40 probloom to calmag. Then next week I will do a full flush and have ppms of 1200 with the ratio of 65/35 probloom to calmag.

These babies are sticky! When I am moving fan leaves out of the way of other buds my hands get so sticky! The aroma is very strong as well and I love coming home from work and smelling them haha :)

Thanks for all your help Weedhound, you definitely have contributed more towards these girls' health than I have, and that is for sure :D

I am going to get my girlfriend's camera on sunday night, so hopefully on sunday or monday I'll post pictures of these beauty queens :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Ha ha thanks for saying so but in all honesty the only work I have done here is type....oh my exhausted fingers.....:D I was NOT the one carrying 30 gals of water around and running out to buy them new nutes.....;)

PS....not at ALL hard to get addicted to growing these plants is it. :thumbsup:

[luvfriday]

Sorry to hear that they are drinking too much. If you wanna solve that problem you can just bring them over to my place sometime and I'll take care of them for you... really no problem, I'm generous that way!

MVP :jointsmile:

Wow, I sort of wish I was a plant right now. :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

luv, I've heard he takes his plants for long walks along the beach......:D

[cmasfca]

luv, I've heard he takes his plants for long walks along the beach......:D

He lives in alaska! Beaches are cold in alaska! Beware!

[MVP]

That is just the flag that I fly... try SoCal by the beach

[cmasfca]

When can I come visit? :)

[Shovelhandle]

At least twice I remember having walked past airport drug dogs (german shepard) without setting 'em off. This was before 9-11, so they were not bomb dogs. I had small amounts in my jean pockets. Once I was working on a manlift while the dog and handler were snooping through the cargo in the airport customs warehouse.

Lucky!

Shovelhandle

[Weedhound]

Shov I think thats about asking the dog where to search. They don't hit on just anything......the handler directs them where to look. If you were standing close enough to a drug dog searching (I'd imagine within a few feet) you could be considered part of the search. Otherwise you have a much better chance of not being noticed by the dog who is concentrating on the area directed by the handler. ;)

[Opie Yutts]

Your supposed to throw decoy drugs in the opposite direction you're going.

[Rock.Steady]

wow, nice grow for a 1st log!

stick with WH, she's great. and has lotsa friends with answers, like MVP and Opie!:thumbsup:

keep it goin and get that digicam goin!


as far as dogs, you guys gotta get a copy of "never get busted again" (nevergetbusted.com)
its awesome.
lotsa stuff you already knew, and some stuff u need to know.

[MVP]

Your supposed to throw decoy drugs in the opposite direction you're going.

Ah..... so that is how it is done. :S2:

[cmasfca]

Pictures!

My girlfriend starts school again today so I have access to the camera again!

I am going to do a complete flush of my system tomorrow and switch the ratio of 50/50 calmag/probloom ratio to 35/65 at a ppm of 1200.

How do they look?

[Weedhound]

Those look GREAT!! Turned into a forest there.....already got some nice frosting. When you post flowering pics you are supposed to say what day of blooming they are at. SHEESH!!! :D

PS...Great work.....they really look good. :thumbsup:

[cmasfca]

Well, I flipped the switch on the 6th of December so I would guesstimate that those pictures were taken on the 27th day of flowering :)

I cleaned my bong and it is ripping me up today :stoned:

Thanks for all of your compliments Weedhound, I have been hitting the refresh button for 7 minutes waiting for your approval :D

[Rock.Steady]

Well, I flipped the switch on the 6th of December so I would guesstimate that those pictures were taken on the 27th day of flowering :)


ok, we'll guestimate approx week 4- week 5.
(stay on top of that, she'll ride ya for forgettin;))


, I have been hitting the refresh button for 7 minutes waiting for your approval :D

another Weedhound Minion is born:D

nice grow, keep up the good work, and rip one for me:thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

I've never done SCROG cm so that one is all on you....very nice work. It's great helping those who really take the info and run with it as you have because then I really feel that I have passed something worthwhile on. Folks like you and your grows are the reason I like this website. :)

[cmasfca]

I followed your thai clones in bondage grow and am hoping to be able to replicate the quality some day.

Yes, I just took a fat rip and now I need a lemon drop :thumbsup:

EDIT: Ah, thanks Weedhound :) The SCRoG was much less planned than MVP's screen or Opies, but it has filled in rather nice. I know that my next grow will be much more organized in terms of the screen, because this time I am just focusing on plant health and getting the cycle down. Crop improvements will naturally follow :)

[Weedhound]

Hey Rock....speaking of scrog.....maybe something for you to think about with your super hps now.....could be good.

[Opie Yutts]

Nice plants cm, but I can't believe you had to wait a whole 7 minutes. Was it something you said?

[Weedhound]

Opie....what thread is your scrog setup under? I want to check it out.

Seven minutes....did you have a reservation sir? God the service here sucks....:D

[cmasfca]

Haha thanks for the compliments Opie, but waiting 7 minutes wasn't too bad. You see I just turned on automatic refresh every 30 seconds ;)

[cmasfca]

I have a quick question. Can any of you tell by the pictures posted what stage the trichs are? I am thinking I need to get a pocket microscope from Radio Shack to see the best but is there any indication in the pictures? Does the entire trichome turn milky, or just the head?

Thanks!

[Opie Yutts]

Opie....what thread is your scrog setup under? I want to check it out.


http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-growing/140716-lsttt-low-stress-twisty-tie-training.html
Just foliar fed them some iron last night.

[Opie Yutts]

Looking at the pictures, I can't really tell. However I think I see some cloudy and some just turning cloudy. Perhaps there is even a couple turning amber or perhaps it is the amber light. If you could get as close as possible and turn off the HPS maybe we could tell better. Try to get a profile of some triches with a dark background.

The entire trichome turns colors, but if you go too long the stem part turns extremely amber and withers to nothingness.

[cmasfca]

Here is a picture of a leaf I removed and put on a dark background. Is this better? It is under sunlight is all.

[MVP]

If I were you I would hike over to the Shack and pick up a 30x lighted scope for 10 bucks or so. It looks like some clear, some cloudy, maybe a couple going amber but need magnification to tell for sure...

BTW, check out this link to see what a good balance of triches is... IMHO >>

Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News (http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/169348d1197000190-my-assorted-high-resolution-marijuana-pictures-dsci0028.jpg)

Look near the bottom center on max resolution... this is a pic from Markass that he posted a month or two ago.

[Weedhound]

He's only at day 27!!! I've found that there seems to be two sets of trichs.....an early set that pops out and ripens kind of early and the "main crowd" that really START coming out at about week four and five and hit their stride around week 8-ish. I have to agree with everyone cm, a cheapie radioshack microscope will work fine for you and you'll have fun snipping off a bit here and there and watching the changes occur.

[Opie Yutts]

That's a much better picture for seeing trichomes. It's still not great, but I think I'm pretty sure I see a couple amber ones in there. A whole bunch of cloudy and hardly any clear. In my experience it's nearly time to harvest, but it can't be if you are only on day 27. Are you using some crazy-ass hormone to speed up flowering time?

Checked out that photo MVP. Now there's some brown looking amber.

[Weedhound]

I'm still sure those are the early birds.....the pistils are white as snow. He's got a ways to go.

I've learned NOT to start looking at the trichs until week 5 or so.....you'll see a whole different ballgame with baby/clear trichs starting.

[cmasfca]

Opie: I am using an Aeroponic setup, but nothing special. 35/65 ratio of calmag to probloom with some hydrogen peroxide every so often along with RO water is all I am giving these girls. I am going to pick up that microscope tomorrow morning and I'll post back with the results.

Weedhound: If tomorrow after I get the microscope and all the trichs are either milky or amber would I start to think about harvest time and preparation? Or should I wait a week or two and see if the trichs continue to develop?

This seems to be an issue of me not being able to give a clear picture to compare trichome color, so I am going to buy the microscope tomorrow and that should help things out.

Thanks a ton guys/gals!

P.S. Some discoloration / yellowing in spots on some leaves is natural in the flowering stage? I have some and it is either that, or I am not changing the res often enough.

[Weedhound]

What medium are you in? I'd take a VERY small snip daily from the exact same area of the plant and look at the trichs. I'd be willing to bet a LOT that you are going to see a whole bunch of new ones start to pop up. Unlike the early bird ones these will COVER your leaves like mad and trip over each other to compete for space The ABSOLUTE earliest I'd think I'd see cloudy trichs is about Day 45.....and I'm being lenient unless its a strain KNOWN to finish quick like lowryder. ;)

Funny story....ha ha

When I first started growing I asked my hydro guy how long they had to flower before they were ready. His EXACT words to me were...."you can pick them at six weeks but its better to wait until 8." Now.....here is what I heard "They'll be finished at six weeks"

I harvested my first two grows at five to six weeks. I had looked at trichs....they were cloudy and amber so it sure looked done to me. X-Crispi was the one that finally reined me in and made me wait a full eight weeks because mine were ALWAYS finished so early.....ahead of schedule no less.....quicker than even the breeder was saying. And I just couldn't seem to get over approx 2 oz's a plant and couldn't figure out why.

Well....here's why. You are looking at the early trichs.....sort of like the preflowers. I can promise you that by weeks six you will be seeing an entire NEW field of clear baby trichs starting and you will be floored by how many there are.. Once I waited like I was told I actually DID find out what a finished plant looks like......and it includes some red pistils and some bulk to the bud as well.

Trust me......your plants are just getting started. ;)

Who else amongst you checks trichs at three weeks....raise hands please. :D

[Opie Yutts]

P.S. Some discoloration / yellowing in spots on some leaves is natural in the flowering stage?

Spots aren't really supposed to happen at any stage, at least as far as I'm aware. The fan leaves yellowing all over the plant is common as the plant is trying to eat it's last bit of nitrogen and other foods. Basically killing itself to give the young every last bit of hope. But no spots on leaves. Got a picture? Perhaps for the problem section and here?

Thanks for the heads up WH. I never saw them develop in stages like that, except for on different parts of the plant. You talked about cutting part off and triches taking over that spot. Have you ever heard of anyone perpetually harvesting that way? I mean always in flower? I read about that a few places a long time ago, but it seems like nobody's heard of it.

[Weedhound]

I've made every mistake in the......:wtf:

I haven't heard anything such as what you mean.....the closest I can think of is something like a SOG setup. Are you talking about the same plant growing over and over? Cut a piece off and it grows back? Not sure I understand......:confused:

[Rock.Steady]

my Thais have eaten yellows for weeks.
its gotten so severe that there and basically ZERO leafs left at all.
just about a dozen sticks with nugs on em.

but the trics are still mostly clear.

(edit) btw- they are in week 13 of flower.
prolly another 3 or 4 weeks.:wtf:

*thinks to self: Thai, yeah, sativa, long flowering cycle. ok got it.
*note to self: do not try to grow Thai anymore, freakin idiot:wtf:

CM, its definately too early.
get the scope. its fun,,,,and addictive, youll be bleary-eyed by the time you take a break from looking.:D
advice- use a lil flashlite to increase the light when scoping;)

[Shovelhandle]

You're not an idiot at all. You're learning from your own experience, the best way.

Just hope that it finishes so outrageous that it's all worth your while. Keep up ;your good work.

Shov

[Rock.Steady]

thanks Shov, i kinda set myself up for this by trying to clone my first grow,,,,and got "lucky" enuf that it worked. so i kinda forced myself to grow this twice before i knew it would take this long.
i started Betty end of last april, chopped in oct-nov, and the trichs werent ready. now the clones have been around roughly since july i guess? we're talkin 9-10 months lookin at the same 2 grows, thats just insane.:wtf:

i am really lookin forward to the Russians and beyond. at one point i wanted to save the old thai strain, but,,,i highly doubt ill intentionally invest this much time in another grow.

i'll pop up a pic later of the leafless sticks on the clone thread;)

ok, rant/whine button "OFF":D

CM, sorry for the mini-hyjack, keep up the good work.:D

[cmasfca]

No worries man, I now know to not grow crazy thai sativas unless I have extra space where I could grow something else at the same time :D

[Weedhound]

Definitely the big flaw in sativas.....alllllll that waiting and they aren't known for terrific yields.

cm...on my Master Kush thread I asked a good friend to post a pic of trichomes for you to check out....so do if you have the chance. ;)

[cmasfca]

I just saved the picture to my computer :)

Thank you :)

[cmasfca]

So I got my microscope today!

Now I need a better flashlight haha

I flushed my res and put 15 gallons of RO water at 1200 ppm with a probloom/calmag ratio of 65/35 so that would be 780/420

How do they look? I know I need more light, sorry lol

[Opie Yutts]

Overall it looks like they are just starting to get cloudy, which makes much more sense for the time frame.

[Opie Yutts]

I haven't heard anything such as what you mean.....the closest I can think of is something like a SOG setup. Are you talking about the same plant growing over and over? Cut a piece off and it grows back? Not sure I understand......:confused:

I mean leave a plant in flower for a year or two, and constantly be harvesting. I know people have done this, I read about it years ago, but I can't find anyone lately who's ever heard of it. I don't want to hijack the thread, so perhaps I can find out something more about it and start a different thread.

[cmasfca]

I am going to take a couple more leaves off tomorrow and inspect them for the beginnings of clouding. Gnight!

[Weedhound]

It is SO funny to watch the progression. Rock went NUTS with his little microscope and so did I when I first got it.

At 8 weeks you will see at LEAST double the trichs on those babies. I know you said so before but what strain are those again cm?

[cmasfca]

I have two Atomic Haze which is a F1 cross of Atomic NL and Haze.

The other six are Arctic sun which is a F1 cross of Whitewidow and Skunk #1.

Do you have tips for getting better lighting? I'm thinking of using my high output t9 flouro or whatever haha

[Weedhound]

Lighting....what have you got going now and what is the size of your space? For some reason I had the idea you had the max lighting going for your grow space already.

[cmasfca]

I meant for taking pictures with my microscope silly! 400w HPS is plenty for my 4ft x 2ft grow atm haha :D

[Weedhound]

LOL! That one never occured to me. Rock probably would know that....i'm no techno brain. :D

[Rock.Steady]

*chiming in*
i use a lil mini maglite;)

i find it works even better if u unscrew the lens and use it with just the bare bulb up close to the scope and 'subject':thumbsup:

i steady the light on an old zippo lighter to get above the subject.

and put something to keep the lite from rolling away.

but goof around, u'll find what works best for u:thumbsup:

prepare to be bleary eyed.:D

and im impressed!
i got NO CLUE how u were able to take a pic with the scope!:jawdropper:

[cmasfca]

lol a pair of steady hands holding the camera lens to the microscope lens; it's kinda hard lol but I'm going to try again today.

Just need to find enough for one last bowl so my hands will be steady :P

Any tips for quick drying weed? In the microwave? Do you think I could try some of the popcorn buds i purposely left below the canopy? or will these not very many clear trichs not get me high yet?

Thanks!

[Rock.Steady]

dude, take it from 1 who knows.
dont waste ur time or the sore throat u will receive.

once u harvest, after the trichs are ready, u could take a lil popcorn and put it on a hot desklamp Not directly on the bulb! or the toasteroven on super low for 30mins-1hr.
I have used both of these meathods with happy results.
but there are many folks who will poo-poo that idea.
its always best to let it dry in its time.
but, these ideas work;)

[Weedhound]

Hey one of the cool parts about growing is that you can smoke the buds whenever you want! Especially your first time around you should take a few snippets during different stages and try them. I usually will pick a bud and leave it on top of the fridge or radio or something over nite.....low heat....and that works very well. Another way I've tried (when REALLY desperate) is to crumble a bud up into a small piece of foil and hold it over but very close to a light bulb. Stir often.....it'll dry it up in a few min but you lose alot in that particular transaction.

This will give you an idea of how you personally like "your trichs served." Practice makes perfect. :D

Ps...Don't oversnip....will slow growth and reduce yield. :)

[Rock.Steady]

actually, i stand corrected by the WH.
i said after harvext, WH is correct in sampling at different stages of the trichs, but i dont think u r cloudy yet.

i would definately wait for cloudy.
clear trichs are a waste of time.:wtf:

[Weedhound]

And yes, Rock is right, sore throat, crappy high. But its YOUR weed giving you that sore throat and crappy high! I know for myself I didn't REALLY believe anything I grew would actually "do the job" until I tried it myself. It's something that has to be done...and someone etc...:D

[MVP]

CM, what scope did you end up with and where did you get it? If my eyes are not deceiving me it looks like there are a couple of 'headless' triches.... Thats a sign that harvest is some time away, or the girls have been treated roughly IMO.

[cmasfca]

So I have a small bud on the top of my lamp wrapped in a paper towel haha.

I am getting better pictures now! The t9 flouro really helped with my lighting issues. I set it down net to the bud of inspection and there ya go! Almost too much light haha

EDIT: MVP: I got the 'scope at radio shack for $10.99. It can scroll between 60-100x magnification, although I have kept it on 60 so far.

My guess is that those trichs are just starting to grow, because they haven't been there for more than a week and a half.

I don't think it's physical abuse causing those headless trichs because they haven't really been touched at all lol. Maybe nute abuse or w/e because when they were younger they went through some tough 8.6 ph water at 400ppm straight from tap for 8-12 hours before I got my meter, but that was back in november!

What do you guys think?

[Weedhound]

He's on day 27! Maybe day 28 now. Harvest IS sometime away.

Interesting point about the headless trichs....mine always look like that after I've ripped a precious bud off with my rough hands...:D Didn't know it meant harvest being far offf.

[Rock.Steady]

i had the headless syndrome for a long time.

definately very premature.

CM, u wont get any buzz til u at least get some cloudies with heads.

i would wait at least 10 days,,,minimum

[cmasfca]

Hmm, maybe I should pick a popcorn bud that has more amber pistils? It's funny, but my pure sativa plant has more amber hairs than my 60% sativa 40% indica plants :P

[Rock.Steady]

impetuous youth.:wtf:

u will now learn the impossible lesson of patience my friend.;)

red hairs mean nothin, other than red hairs.

my thais have had red hairs for a couple months.

its all about the trichs.
the trichs contain the psycho-actives, not the hairs.

u r rushing.
Mother Nature will not be rushed.:hippy:

wait 2 weeks, trust me.:pimp:

[cmasfca]

Haha no worries man! I can wait two weeks. I can wait six weeks, although I'm dry until harvest so I might get a bit cranky haha.

Thanks for the tip about the hair color, I'll definitely remember that :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

OMG!! Rock talking about patience!! :S2: Look I know he's learned (the hard way) to practice it but.....!

[Opie Yutts]

t5. And those are much more efficient than the t12 (most common) and t8. And real expensive.

[Rock.Steady]

OMG!! Rock talking about patience!! :S2: Look I know he's learned (the hard way) to practice it but.....!

yeah, talk about hysterical:wtf:

i have the least amount of patience of anyone i kno,,,,but i learned these lessons the hard way.
nothing like investing 5.5 months on a thai only to get a 20 minute buzz.

pateince grasshopper, patience:D

[cmasfca]

T5, that's the one. Well, it does the job for lighting microscope objects, but I wouldn't recommend buying one for that sole purpose lol

[cmasfca]

So this is an update dedicadedicated to those small roaches when you save them for a time when you are dryl This is one of those times and I have a gram sized baggies with about 12 roaches anywhere from .25-1 inches long. I just unroll those babies into my bong on the screen and toke away! It tastes what it is, but :jointsmile:it does the job very nicely.

So because iof this I am listening to KoRN and taking pictures of trichomes wiyth my microscpe.

I think that I need to be high more often because I just figured out that it's a pocket microscope that means that you can set it down and then focus instead of holding it like binoculars that was what I was doing even for my pictures! Setting it down is much more stable and allows for more even lighting and focus fields.

These are three pictures at slightly different focus ranges to account for the trichomes being different distances away.

I've heard that roaches can hold as muich as 7%5 of the thc in a joint because the smoke goes through the last part of the joing / blunt the whole smoke. any facts tath someone can contribute would be appreciated :)

Mmm, looks like I'm going to crack another roach and waste some time on video games :)

[Weedhound]

If you can deal with the taste I'd leave the paper on the roaches......thar's resin in them thar papers.. :D

[cmasfca]

I did not know that! The papers are staying on from now on :thumbsup:

[deaner]

Sweet pics dude, I now really know what the trichs look like. Thank you so much for those great pics, I hope I have patience when mine get there. I need a microscope. I am out til harvest too, unless someone nice comes along and throws some my way.

[cmasfca]

Ya, it's a real bummer. I wish my insurance company would get it's act together and start paying for my medication or at least the expenses used to make my own :thumbsup:

Law isn't going to change until big industries decide it is beneficial to invest in it, in my opinion of course ;)

I have seven more roaches, that should last me until I have to go to work :jointsmile:

[Opie Yutts]

Well I see some amber in those, but they're mostly still just getting cloudy I think.

And you can quick dry by tearing off tiny chunks of weed, like less than the size of a dime. Set them on top of your computer monitor or HID hood, or any place warm and with some air movement. They should dry in 12 to 24 hours.

[cmasfca]

So I carefully this time cut a leaf from one of my Atomic Haze sativa plants and threw it under the 'scope. I saw a lot more cloudy than I thought, but have yet to see an amber so I do have at least a couple more weeks going on my judgement.

What do you guys think?

[Rock.Steady]

i concur doctor, at least a couple weeks.:thumbsup:

[cmasfca]

So my birthday is in just over three weeks...If I end up harvesting in two weeks and cure for a little over a week I can give myself a great birthday present :D

[Rock.Steady]

first, its hang dry for a week to 10 days, then cure.
but, u can blaze soon as is dry, but will taste much better after curing.

[cmasfca]

Ah, see harvest is still a big mystery to me. I have Jorge Cervantes' DVD so I will watch it again and I will start reading up on what to do when harvest comes.

I am going to go search for it...I'll post if I have any questions :thumbsup:

P.S. I still have three roaches :D

:S5:

[Rock.Steady]

theres a grow guide around here somewhere with detailed harvest instructions.
ill look for it.:thumbsup:

wish i had some dam roaches:wtf:

[Weedhound]

:wtf: This is the last time I will say this.....you are at about day 32 or something. People consider 50 days a FAST finisher. :wtf: Stop looking at them and playing with them because you are starting to get out of control here cm. :wtf: I've been waiting for this.....usually it's nutes people get crazy over or the ph (with Rock it was the cfls :wtf:) but in your case it's thinking your plants are anywhere NEAR done. They ARENT! :wtf:

I want you to STOP THIS right now young man! :wtf:

[Rock.Steady]

i think someone was just mildly slapped upside the head:S2:

but, 2b honest, she is right. just chill dude. what u think is cloudy is the white refection of the light in a CLEAR trich.

buy a rubicks cube or somethin:wtf:

[Opie Yutts]

Sorry you lost all your pictures during the upgrade. I feel lucky to have been able to keep mine, but I did loose my entire last page.

[cmasfca]

:wtf: This is the last time I will say this.....you are at about day 32 or something. People consider 50 days a FAST finisher. :wtf: Stop looking at them and playing with them because you are starting to get out of control here cm. :wtf: I've been waiting for this.....usually it's nutes people get crazy over or the ph (with Rock it was the cfls :wtf:) but in your case it's thinking your plants are anywhere NEAR done. They ARENT! :wtf:

I want you to STOP THIS right now young man! :wtf:

Sorry :( I will stop talking about harvesting until you start talking about it again :D

Thank you for straightening me out Weedhound, appreciate it :)

I don't have anymore medicine; time to look up my local hook again.

[Weedhound]

It's ok.....we all do it.....we need a smiley of a slapping hand. You reigned in easier than Rock at least. :D

Do you go to co ops cm? I've been dying to go in and look around. Does any of the weed anyone buys at a co op have seeds or is it all sinsemilla?

[Weedhound]

Dude.....VERY sorry about your pics...:(

[yiGity]

cant see any of those attachments

[MVP]

Rule of Thumb: Sixty days or longer in 12/12 before you mention the "H" word. If they girls are 50 percent amber before then, maybe.... *slap* :S2:, but check with the Hound first....

[Rock.Steady]

It's ok.....we all do it.....we need a smiley of a slapping hand. You reigned in easier than Rock at least. :D

Do you go to co ops cm? I've been dying to go in and look around. Does any of the weed anyone buys at a co op have seeds or is it all sinsemilla?

HEY!:D

[Rock.Steady]

Rule of Thumb: Sixty days or longer in 12/12 before you mention the "H" word. If they girls are 50 percent amber before then, maybe.... *slap* :S2:, but check with the Hound first....

ok, im in week 14:wtf:

14x7= im around 100 days, seriously:wtf:

fawkin Thai,,,,,never again:weedpoke:

[cmasfca]

It's ok.....we all do it.....we need a smiley of a slapping hand. You reigned in easier than Rock at least. :D

Do you go to co ops cm? I've been dying to go in and look around. Does any of the weed anyone buys at a co op have seeds or is it all sinsemilla?

Haha well I guess you could say I'm a fast learner in knowing when to listen and when to shut up :thumbsup:

I go to co ops probably once a month. There is one in Santa Cruz that is good and there are lots in San Fran that I hit up. In all the medicine I've bought from co ops I've never encountered a seed, so yes I would imagine it's all sinsemilla.

It's no big deal about losing the pictures, I have them all saved on my computer. I feel bad for you guys if anything lol. If there's any pictures you'd like me to repost I will, and sometime in the future I'll repost most of them for others who happen across this log.

Humidity: Mine is around 60-70% because it's the rainy season! The temps stay between 70-80 but that damn humidity is never below 50%. Do I need a dehumidifier? Would this humidity cause a canoeing effect that I am seeing on some of the leaves, mostly the ones higher? Or is that a heat issue? If they get worse I will make a post in the problem section.

There is also yellowing going on and now that I know that I'm not close to finish flowering is this happening because of some environmental issue? If it is not normal for yellowing to appear in only the fourth-fifth week of flowering I will make another problem post.

Thanks friends!

[MVP]

Haha well I guess you could say I'm a fast learner in knowing when to listen and when to shut up :thumbsup:

I go to co ops probably once a month. There is one in Santa Cruz that is good and there are lots in San Fran that I hit up. In all the medicine I've bought from co ops I've never encountered a seed, so yes I would imagine it's all sinsemilla.

It's no big deal about losing the pictures, I have them all saved on my computer. I feel bad for you guys if anything lol. If there's any pictures you'd like me to repost I will, and sometime in the future I'll repost most of them for others who happen across this log.

Humidity: Mine is around 60-70% because it's the rainy season! The temps stay between 70-80 but that damn humidity is never below 50%. Do I need a dehumidifier? Would this humidity cause a canoeing effect that I am seeing on some of the leaves, mostly the ones higher? Or is that a heat issue? If they get worse I will make a post in the problem section.

There is also yellowing going on and now that I know that I'm not close to finish flowering is this happening because of some environmental issue? If it is not normal for yellowing to appear in only the fourth-fifth week of flowering I will make another problem post.

Thanks friends!

Hey bro, post pics if you can...even shitty cam-phone pics you text/email to yourself. The yellowing is kinda normal if they are lower growth and don't get light intensity. Focus on upper canopy growth and don't sweat the stuff below too much.

I used to live in Carmel and Pacific Grove a while back. I'm gonna roadtrip up there soon to see some friends. God's country if you ask me... love the Central Coast. Used to live in the City too - Seacliff and the Marina District in case you are wondering.

Remember the 60-day rule amigo, it will pay you back in Fat Nuggs! And you won't get slapped either.

MVP :jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

CM....I have to say yes on the dehumidifier. Despite what some of the books say 60% is WAY too high. You honestly want to aim for the 30's but anything over 45% can create good conditions for molds/funguses. Mold can ruin your entire crop easily so the investment is worth it in my opinion.

Do you have an oscillating fan on them? Keep the air around them moving to help prevent mold issues as well but the REAL key is your humidity and your plants' general health.

I have one running in my growroom at night.....that's when you'll REALLY see the humidity rise in the grow room.

[Weedhound]

canoeing sounds like ph or overfert or perhaps heat stress to be honest but I've never done 80% humidity so can't be sure. If you can post a pic that would be great.....also where are your numbers at and how often are you changing out your res?

Ps...if you can't post a pic than e-mail me with one if possible.

[cmasfca]

I have attached a couple different pictures, two of the canoeing and one of the yellowing.

The yellowing is happening at the canopy level. It is happening to all of my Arctic Sun plants, but neither of my Atomic Haze show any yellowing, save for a couple leaves.

In the past couple days, the ph has fluctuated between 5.7 and 5.9, which is what it is now.

The ppms have grown from 1220 to 1240 since my last res change, which was last Wednesday I want to believe.

The RH is at 65%, temps at 75F.

[Weedhound]

I'm not sure how close your light is but the first two photos look like heat stress. The third looks like a k def but is there any chance I could see a photo of the yellowing in relation to the rest of the plants? Is it only on the older and/or lower leaves? What medium are you using again? A certain amount of yellowing/browning of the lower leaves IS normal but I've had k defs etc seem low....then begin crawling up the plants madly (my white rhinos did that and ended up w/small amount of mold due to the plant's general health even with good rh) so watch it carefully and see if it "climbs" up the plants

[cmasfca]

I will move the light further away, the leaves showing the canoeing are the closest to the light.

The yellowing is happing on the top of the canopy. Both new and older growth are showing yellowing.

The girls were planted in RW and I surrounded the cubes in hydroton. It's an aeroponic sprinkler setup so the roots are hanging down into my reservoir while the roots in the air get sprayed.

[Rock.Steady]

i was also thinkin heat (i learned lots about heat, the hard way of course) but was waiting for the WH to chime in 1st.:D

[Weedhound]

Might be time for a system flush.....I'm not a huge fan of the hydroton or the rockwool but there are flaws to every single medium so it's six of one and 1/2 dozen of the other.

I'd flush the system if I were you but I'm just not quite sure how to do that with rockwool. Do you have (or can you get) Florakleen and do a system flush? You have some decent defs showing and I think the problem is probably salt build up related.

Your buds are starting to look very good cm....they are close enough together however that I would definitely worry about mold and fungus. If you aren't spraying them with something (I use Serenade) I would consider it if I were you and DEFINITELY a dehumidifier.

[MVP]

To me it looks like the leaves are cupping due to heat. Mine looked like that when temps got over 100 F in September. Flushing them with FloraKleen is also a really good idea prior to heading into the last half of flowering.

[Weedhound]

I stole these from Dutch Pimp. :D

[cmasfca]

Thanks for the replies!

So, I'm going to get Florakleen, Serenade, and a dehumidifier this week!

I agree about the salt buildup in the rockwool... I can see white crusty things on the rockwool and so maybe if I pour RO water through the RW enough until it goes away? I will also do a system flush. Does that mean that when doing a system flush with florakleen the girls don't get any nutes? Wouldn't that increase the def and thus the yellowing? I have the thread about flushing w/ florakleen before harvest bookmarked, should I follow it?

I will also raise the lights and LST the high leaves so they're farther away.

Thanks for the replies!

I got 12 grams for $40 tonight, so I'm happy :)

Sensi Star it was called

[Weedhound]

Well if the problem is fert buildup in the medium then you don't have a true deficiency....it's actually a def due to a lockout....too much crud and salinity in your medium can affect the roots ability to uptake nutes thus LOCKING things out. Abnormal ph will do the same thing. ;)

You are much better off using the Florakleen for 24 hours than just pouring water through at this stage. I would use 10ml (2tsp) a gallon for 24 hours (watching ph constantly...it WILL shift alot) then replace the system with fresh nutes. Sorry....more water to carry.....:wtf:

[Rock.Steady]

I got 12 grams for $40 tonight, so I'm happy :)

Sensi Star it was called

S-O-B!!!
IM LIVIN IN THE DAM SAHARA DESERT THIS WEEK.
I NOW HATE U:mad:

[cmasfca]

If you, or anyone else for that matter, ever go through the San Jose area, I would be happy to meet you somewhere :thumbsup:

:bigsmoke:

[Rock.Steady]

no worries dude, next time im in frisco:thumbsup:

i just hate the fact that i had to go against my better advice and pull a pantie-raid on Ping n Pong tonite, just so i can mellow enuf to get to bed before 4 or 5 :icon506:(i actually need one of these smilies smashing its own head! admin? lil help?):wtf:

[cmasfca]

The ppms are now 1310...I added in 5ml / gal of h2o2 and I am going to get the florakleen and the dehumidifier tomorrow and flush the girls.

Would this increasing ppm be indicative of a def? Or could it be indicative of them drinking water? The level of the res is definitely dropping.

[Weedhound]

If you started at a lower number then yes...they are drinking more water than nutes.....BUT...STOP....don't lower your ppms.....thank you. DO keep your number under 1350 however. You can add more RO water to drop them back but realize that your ratios are changing as well so it's not an excuse to do less res changes. ;)

[cmasfca]

Thanks for the reply :)

I will keep them under 1350 and will still do the flush tomorrow. Any recommendations for a dehumidifier?

[Weedhound]

i bought mine off of amazon.com but can't remember what kind it is. I live WAY out i the boonies so I get everything off of amazon. If you can....get one that you don't have to empty daily.....that was someone's else idea which I've stolen along with those photos. Not essestial.....but kind of nice not to have to do every day. :)

[MVP]

Hey CM, can you start putting "Day XX of Flower" in your title to your posts so I can remember how far along you are? I don't wanna get slapped for mentioning the "H" word before 60 days.... MVP :jointsmile:

[cmasfca]

Day 35 of flowering is today. :jointsmile:

[cmasfca]

So the ppms are now hitting 1350.

Could my light be too close to my plants? The bulb is about 20 inches from the canopy, it's a 600w HPS. Is that too close? Can heat stress cause the lockout and resulting def that I am now seeing? The amb. temp doesn't get above 80 in the daytime, does that not matter?

Thanks!

EDIT: I haven't mentioned it yet, but WH mentioned ph problem. The ph hasn't been out of the range of 5.6-6.0 since the last time i did a res change and the ph dropped to 4.0 for about 30 minutes while I was adding nutes to the reservoir. Could the ph at that acidity for the relatively short time cause a lockout? I am adding my RO water into the res, then adding the nutes, then adjusting ph. Should I measure out nutes in 5gallon jugs instead of pouring tablespoons of concentrated nutes into my res?

[cmasfca]

Oh God, I'm answering these questions to myself.

Of course it would be bad, because now my roots are in the reservoir, so when I am pouring the nutes into the res they are hitting the roots! Concentrated ProBloom can't be good for roots!

Dammit, I'm an idiot. Why haven't I thought about this? I am going to flush my system and measure out the nutes I need in the 5 gallons so no nasty concentrates are hitting my roots.

[Weedhound]

I don't really know if 30 min at 4.0 would do anything or not I do agree that you should mix your nutes up seperately always and adjust ph before you add it to the plants. Another thing would be big and sudden changes in water temp (more than 15 degrees difference or so) would be pretty stressful for your plants and may cause damage to the roots but I''m having trouble with heat causing lockout. I still think the problem goes back to fert buildup, just based on the issues I've had with it myself.

Hey cm, can you post some new pics? And if you can get a pic of the entire setup at once in some way, that would be great as well.......hps lighting off!!!! ;)

[cmasfca]

Ok, just as long as it won't hermie all my girls in one fatal flash of the camera :jointsmile:

lemme go take a picture.

My girlfriend made me cannacookies yesterday and i had 2 about an hour ago and have been vaping for about an hour.

let's see if i can find my way to my bedroom

been trying to be nice on my lungs for a week or so

[cmasfca]

How could it hurt the girls?

They will just think it's lightning from some autumn storm :P

[Weedhound]

STOP AGGGG

[Weedhound]

don't take a photo during their dark period!!!! If it's not their dark period......then great.
Otherwise wait till tomorrow....


Even with Reverse you never know when the plant feels so personally offended it decides to hermie.....if i have one golden rule it's that I don't disturb the plants during their dark time unless there is an earthquake or something.

Autumn storm, lol.....mine never bought that..... :D

[cmasfca]

lol well might as well post them if I took 'em :P

tomorrow at the hydro shop i'll grab some reverse too haha

[Weedhound]

Hey cm.....those look really good all in all.....we just need to tweak your nutes a bit to see how can we can keep things ok uhtil the end. I would think about dropping your H202 at this point and thinking about something like hydrogard or hydrozyme (I use cannazym) for the roots. Not necessary but one of the 'zyme" products will help alot with enabling the older and dying (normal process) to uptake nutes until harvest.

What's your ratios at this point? I'd probably think about increasing your CalMag and dropping the bloom nutes a bit.....say in a 60/40 ratio and see.

[MVP]

Oh God, I'm answering these questions to myself.

Of course it would be bad, because now my roots are in the reservoir, so when I am pouring the nutes into the res they are hitting the roots! Concentrated ProBloom can't be good for roots!

Dammit, I'm an idiot. Why haven't I thought about this? I am going to flush my system and measure out the nutes I need in the 5 gallons so no nasty concentrates are hitting my roots.

Stoner!!! :D Don't freak out..... they are a WEED...... BTW I use a separate Rubbermaid tub to mix up the nutes, balance the PPM and PH before pumping them into the res with a little submersible pump I got from Harbor Freight Tools for about 10 bucks, connected to 2 bucks worth of vinyl hose from OSH. Works like a charm.

[Weedhound]

Thats POST flush of course.....

[cmasfca]

The ratios were right around 65/35 ProBloom to CalMag last res change.

One thing to note:

I drain my res by connecting a hose to the sprinklers and it pumps out the water like 2 gallons a minute or something. The thing is, it doesn't completely drain the water.

In fact, the last time I changed nutes there was 350 PPM of "waste ppms" that could have been any ratio. So, there is around 950 ppms of 65/35 Probloom / Calmag in there now.

I will have the ratio at 60/40 bloom / calmag tomorrow when I flush it. This time, I will drain the water as much as the pump does. Then I will add in 15 gallons of water. Then I will drain that fresh RO water all out and the resulting ppms should be much less after I fill it up again.

I now know the answer to every question I've had so far!

I just need to add more of that precious RO water!

I think for my Birthday I will ask my parents for an under the sink RO unit :(

[Weedhound]

Yeah, that could tip them a alittle as well. I try to keep the ration of CalMag/bloom nutes over 1000 since about 2 1/2 weeks into flower and anything on top of that is supplement so I'd try and go with that if I were you. Example...350 "extra nutes" floating around.....I'd go with 400/CalMag and 600Pro Bloom and watch the numbers.....are they going up or down?

It doesn't make much difference for this grow but having "extra" ppms floating around once you add Liquid Karma, Sweet, Hydroplex yadda yadda yadda will definitely make things harder for you later.

[cmasfca]

Well, I know right now that the ppms are raising. From 1220 on the day of the res flush until today they have raised to 1350. I will tell you if the same thing happens tomorrow when I add in 400 ppms of CalMag and 600 ppms of Probloom.

I am going to add a heater into my room to try and lower the humidity!

[cmasfca]

So I remembered I have a heater in my room! One that heats up an element and smells funny kindof like a toaster. So I turned that one and and also put a portable heater in there.

Hopefully this will cut the moisture down at night and during the day if the temps aren't affected too much.

[Weedhound]

Yes, the last frontier.....humidity......

How many days are we talking.......last wednesday was res change? And have you been adding water during that time to "top off"? As those beasts get bigger and bigger they are only going to get bigger appetites. If the numbers are staying about the same (raising or lowering about 50ppm a day) you can just add nutes at the same strength when you top off......or slightly less strong if the numbers have risen. They will drink quite a bit of water from here on in as well. Don't let your res get too low as that will REALLY screw with your ratios.

If you add a heater you will see the ppms rise more than if you didn't have extra heat in with them. This is normal but you should keep a good eye on your daily trends.

[cmasfca]

I haven't yet added any water since last wednesday's res change. I am just doing this heater experiment tonight so that I can see any affect. I am doing it at night because that is what it is right now, plus 70 degrees has more room to get warmer than 80 F :)

[Weedhound]

Ok.....I think i might smell lockout ....while the numbers may not seem to change much to you the ratios could have really changed. You need to keep x-amount of nute solution in your res at all times....as the rez level goes down replace it with more to keep things in balance. Does that make sense?

[cmasfca]

Ah, I see. Will remember this info :thumbsup:

[Weedhound]

So what's going on over there? How about an update??? :wtf:

[cmasfca]

You don't have to ask me twice :)

I talked to my local hydro guy for about an hour the other day and he said that the discoloration might have been caused by a lockout from too much calmag. So, per his instructions I flushed my system and put in probloom at 20ml/gallon and calmag at 5ml/gallon.

The ppms are at 1250 right now and the ph is at 5.7. When the solution was first put in the reservoir it was 1260 at 5.9 ph.

I got a rubbermaid 18gal tub and a cheap pump. I now mix my nutes in that and then pump them into my res after the ph and ppms have been established. No more nasty concentrates hurting my roots :)

The res change was on saturday. How do they look?

[Weedhound]

This is what I've been wrestling withas well. But I've found my problems don't get better with less CalMAg.....5ml/gallon IS 300 ppms....I haven't found it improve my problems at all. That's why I'm swinging back the other way.......more CalMAg and less bloom nutes (as per my hydro guy) and so far it seems to be helping. The church and cc plant I have right now are really....cough, cough, quite flawless on the the 60/40 ratio. I'll try and post a pic later today.

[Weedhound]

PS...my hydro guy insists he likes the CalMAg at a 50/50 ratio with the base nutes all the way through the entire grow.......

[Weedhound]

god those buds are nice.....remember you thinking there were done awhile back? Look at them puppies now....:thumbsup:

I'll be very interested to see if this ratio of CalMag/bloom nutes helps your grow. Keep me updated.....;)

[Opie Yutts]

How do they look?

Oh, absolutely wonderful I'd say. Very frosty. Very smokable. I'm not saying they're ready, just very yummy-looking.

[MVP]

I got a rubbermaid 18gal tub and a cheap pump. I now mix my nutes in that and then pump them into my res after the ph and ppms have been established.
Alright, NOW you are getting the right tools for the job. :dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:



How do they look?

They look good. And soon they will look even better. The REAL question is how do they smell? :bonghit:

[cman2011]

hey man i just have to say i have enjoyed reading your grow log so far and good luck

[Rock.Steady]

Fawkin 'A' Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!:thumbsup:

sugar coated goodies fo' sho'

[cmasfca]

Thank you everyone for you comments, they really made my day today :thumbsup:

The smell is something else. Kindof scary actually lol. With my bedroom (read: growroom) door closed I can smell the girls when I open my apartment door :D

My roommate doesn't mind as long as the house doesn't reek of weed; oops! Lol.

Fortunately they have been smelling for about a month now so neither of us really smell it anymore until I open my bedroom door.

It is GREAT waking up in the mornings and taking a big whiff of maryjane :D Hopefully sometime I will be able to wake up and instead of taking a whiff I will take a big rip :thumbsup:

EDIT: Today is day 39 of flowering

[Rock.Steady]

,,,EDIT: Today is day 39 of flowering

good call dude, she'll smack ya again:wtf:;):D

keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

you may wanna think about the odor if you have neighbors in the same building.
uncontrolled odors are 1 of the leading causes of nosey visitors
a DIY carbon scrubber for under $100 worth of parts.
Stealth is your friend.:cool:

[MVP]

uncontrolled odors are 1 of the leading causes of nosey visitors
a DIY carbon scrubber for under $100 worth of parts.
Stealth is your friend.:cool:

Dude, make one of these. Check rep and email me if you need directions/parts list. Cost was less than 80 bucks. And worth every penny.

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[Rock.Steady]

Dude, make one of these. Check rep and email me if you need directions/parts list. Cost was less than 80 bucks. And worth every penny.

i spent an xtra 30 for the induct fan (6 in/250cfm):cool:

also, i got instructions, partslist right on the ole canncom.
D-I-Y CARBON SCRUBBER, CLICK HERE:D (http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/99371-diy-how-carbon-filter.html#post1201963)
wally world was cheapest (even cheaper than the big pet outlets) for the carbon @ 5.70/ 9oz jar
i needed 5.5 jars,,,,,mine is 2 ft long, figured why bother trimming the fence, just make it bigger. longer filter equates to more available surface area for the carbon to do its job:smokin:

bigger IS better:wtf:

btw- i put my nose right up to this thing and CANNOT smell any MJ!:D

[Opie Yutts]

MVP and Rock, cool scrubbers. Now I wish I wouldn't have paid so much for my big professional one. Does anyone know if it's better to push or pull the air through the scrubber?

Rock, a little insulation between those rafters would save a bunch on electricity.

[Weedhound]

Opie I was taught that you always want to pull first, then push....you only get to push if you already have one pulling....:D

[Rock.Steady]

Rock, a little insulation between those rafters would save a bunch on electricity.

yeah, tell me about it.
freezer in winter, oven in summer,,,,,

but,,,,,



i rent.:wtf:

[Opie Yutts]

Opie I was taught that you always want to pull first, then push....you only get to push if you already have one pulling....:D

Thanks, sounds about right. Who told you that? Was that the HVAC guy, darn it what was his name?

[Opie Yutts]

yeah, tell me about it.
freezer in winter, oven in summer,,,,,

but,,,,,



i rent.:wtf:

Oh, yeah then good luck getting that changed. The landlord doesn't care if your electric bill is way higher than it should be. Or is electric included? If so you better get a bunch of 1000W bulbs. Man that would be nice.

[SnSstealth]

congrats on the grow! been growing for 7 years, but newbie to loging it here. at least you didnt do what i did...lol.. i posted 4 posts on accident, then my photobucket pics were set to private. im still trying to get the forum thing down


whiskeytango
SnSstealth

[Rock.Steady]

congrats on the grow! been growing for 7 years, but newbie to loging it here. at least you didnt do what i did...lol.. i posted 4 posts on accident, then my photobucket pics were set to private. im still trying to get the forum thing down


whiskeytango
SnSstealth

im pretty sure u need 50 posts b4 u can post pix;)

[SnSstealth]

thanks for lookin out rocksteady, but i linked them to photobucket
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[cmasfca]

Today is day 41 of flowering. How many days should they flower again?

I took some more pictures of pretty trichomes and I saw some of them turning cloudy!

I really think that the yellowing of my 6 arctic sun girls is due to the flowering process. It is a very uniform yellow and my Arctic Haze has no yellowing at all. Their only complain is some heat stress from what I think is because of how close my light is.

Nevertheless, the girls are looking very yummy. I removed a small fan leaf from one of my sativa plants and this is what I saw :jointsmile:

What do you all think?

[Rock.Steady]

ur gettin there!:thumbsup:

be patient and wait for the trichs to show u its time;)

and just so u dont feel so bad, its week 15 (FIFTEEN) after about 8 or so weeks veg on the dam Thai clones.
yeah, thats about 23 weeks total, 1/2 a flippin year soon:wtf::wtf::wtf:
i almost think Galina will finish before them!:wtf:

[Weedhound]

Is there a lot of sativa in the artic sun? I've found sativas to be MUCH more picky about...well.....EVERYTHING really now that I think about it. Ive also just now gotten on a jab about roots after helping someone with a FREAKY problem we are just now getting to the bottom of. How about a pic of your roots cm? Root porn!!!

[Opie Yutts]

How do you get such nice close ups of those triches. Are you holding a camera up to a pocket microscope? If so how does that work when the lens of the camera is about 20 times bigger than the lens of the microscope? I thought I read how to do this years ago but I've never tried it.

That second picture sure makes it clear that there is some amber going on. Seems like I see a mixture of everything in there, so I'm guessing a week or two more for my tastes, which is about 10% amber. My AK-47 is ready in about 48 days. And it's normal for some plants to yellow more than others in flowering.

[cmasfca]

Weedhound,

Arctic Sun is a 60% sativa, 40% indica hybrid. The funny part is the 100% sativa, Atomic Haze, has no signs of yellowing; however they are more sensitive to warmer climates than the 60/40 it seems. I will take a picture of the roots tomorrow. They seem to have one or two main roots (tap?) that go into the reservoir and they are all together in almost a root mat at the bottom.

Opie,
The camera I use is a cheap 7megapixel digicam that my girlfriend got for christmas a couple years back. The lens on the camera is just big enough to get an almost perfect fit (or close to it). The hard part is balancing th two and letting the camera focus. I seem to have gotten good success using it :)

I am going to try and take a leaf from each plant in about a week and a half and really examine and count out how many ambers and such and get a %. I am wanting to harvest anytime from 10%-20%. I am picking up a clone tomorrow from the club and it is going to be a new mother (or least a good learning experience on caring for them).

I got this bag of coconut fiber and a bunch of other goodies that I picked up from one of my local hydro shops as I have decided to go with soil for my mother plant so that I can root prune and be able to get a good bonsai going on with LST. Hopefully she will be able to pump out 8 clones every 8 weeks, she shouldn't have a problem me thinks. Along with the coco fiber medium I picked up a 6400K full spectrum daylight 125 watts bulb which I hope will be enough for one or two mothers each in a 1 gallon bucket.

I'm high :jointsmile:

[cmasfca]

Root porn!

Day 42 of flowering.

They have a brown hue to them but I think that might be from the ProBloom.

Whaddya's think?

I'm heading into San Francisco today to pick out a nice looking mother :)

We're bringing the bong on the little road trip :jointsmile:

...My girlfriend is driving, don't worry :thumbsup:

I'll drive home:stoned:

[Weedhound]

If you're going to the dirty side of things.....I'm SO gone....:D

Those roots look great! A little brownish but mine always get like that too. I'm going to borrow your thread for a min to show someone what good roots look like. :)

You should try the capsule thing.....works GREAT imo. ;)

[cmasfca]

If they have them at the club I'm going to today I will definetely pick some up. I am heading to Grass Roots and CannaMed Care today; both in San Francisco.

I am looking to pick up some top shelf medicine today as my manager is coming over to my house tomorrow and we are going to have a little session :thumbsup:

It's an awesome feeling to be used as an example about doing something right for once; I hope to make that a habit in the future :jointsmile:

The girls are at 1310 ppms and have drunk about 3-5 gallons, so that means they're thirsty I guess ;) The ph is at 5.7, I raised it there from 5.5 this morning. Actually, I first lowered it to 5.3 accidently because I used down instead of up. Yes, it is hard to do that. No, at least I wasn't sober:joint1:

[Weedhound]

And you're replacing the water as they drink down right? Topping off is your key to keeping things balanced. ;) Do that up until flush time and I think you'll be golden. :thumbsup:

We're a couple hours away from SF ourselves.....if it's really that much of a "cannabis mecca" we may have to drive down and spend the night and check things out at some point. Have fun. :) May have to get some tips from you later on where the interesting things to see can be found.

[Opie Yutts]

Dang it you guys. All this talk of just driving somewhere and picking out what clones you want is pissing me off. The clinics around here used to do that, then as soon as I got my card and got 2 clones the asshole government has to be like a damn pussy-ass weenie cry-baby shit-head mother-fucker, and tell me I am not allowed access to plants anymore, even though it's perfectly fine with them for me to smoke those plants. The same plants that God told me I can use. Where the fuck does someone get off telling me I can't do something that God told me I can?

[Opie Yutts]

I'm sorry, could you pick me up a couple while you're there? I'll be happy to drive the 2200 miles to get them.

[Rock.Steady]

Opie, i'm with you.
I miss Cali.




i especially miss smokin outrageous nug every single day for 3 yrs.:(

[SnSstealth]

GO DIRTY!!!!!! GO DIRTY!!!!!!!!! lol.....just messin weedhound...ive always been dirt, too old school i guess, heh

[SnSstealth]

alright guys....these pics are one week old sprouts. lookin good so far, had a few stretching a little bit, but just moved some pots around and they are fine.....

whiskeytango
SnSstealth

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[cmasfca]

Stretching or growing? You should post those pictures in your grow log ;)

[SnSstealth]

my bad cmasfca, weedhound let me know bout the pics thing:thumbsup: still figuring out this forum thing....lol

[Weedhound]

speaking of photos cm......hint hint......:)

[cmasfca]

You never have to ask twice! ;)

I just took these. They are in day 46 of flowering and I am counting down 10 more days until I even think of harvesting ;)

The sativas are feeling a bit warm now, nothing more I can do before harvest.

The hybrids have been yellow for a month, but have been showing bud growth during the yellowing. This makes me think they aren't deficient of anything enough to have caused a negative effect.

Other than those two issues the temperature is between 70F-80-F RH between 55%-65% ppms at 1460 ph 5.6 res temp 18C-25C.

EDIT: Look at the bud growth on the stem of that girl! That's my sativa haha.

[cmasfca]

Here are a couple more pictures. The first one is of a popcorn bud growing underneath the canopy by about 4 inches.

The second and third pictures are of my new mother to be; A F1 cross of NL5 x Haze.

How do they look? Is there anything painfully obvious I am doing wrong?

EDIT: The mother is planted with this coco fiber mix that has "tons of goodies in it" according to my local hydro guy.

From what I can tell it has some peat moss and white foamy rocks. I put about 2 inches of hydroton on the bottom of the pot, then filled up the pot, then put about 1-2 inches of hydroton on the top of the soil.

For watering, I watered about 2 gallons through it when the soil was first put into the pot. Then about 2 days later I watered it until there was some runoff from all the holes.

That brings us to today; am I doing it right? Lol I am completely lost with soil growing.

Thanks for the tips!

[hydrocannabis]

This grow looks great as hell.

and what kind of light UR useing for flowering?

[SnSstealth]

mmm i love dirt!... the foamy rocks your talking about are perlite. its used to aerate the soil. what kind of soil are you using? sounds like your doing everything right. just make sure you have big enough holes on the bottom of your pots. dont want mildew or damp off. mommy looks good man! keep it up!

whiskeytango:jointsmile:

[Weedhound]

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Soil, coco, any of those......so out of my teeny little sphere......

Great job cm....those buds look heavenly and you can tell in the photos that they are just COVERED with trichs.

The yellowing and browning of your leaves......has it improved or changed since you started using less CalMag?

[Rock.Steady]

lookin good CM, as to ur soil uncertainty, dont sweat it.
soil is a LOT less maintenance than hydro.

its been around a looooooooooooooooooong time:D

and it sounds like ur doin just fine with it.
keep in mind, if things get screwy, it takes longer to fix, but will fix. dont panic:thumbsup:

[Opie Yutts]

as to ur soil uncertainty, dont sweat it.
soil is a LOT less maintenance than hydro.

Well I'm not so sure I agree with that. In fact, sorry Rock, but no, I don't. As for the more complex hydro systems, yes sure, absolutely. With my Emily's Garden DWC I put nutrients in when it runs low. Depends on how hungry they are, but usually that's every 3 or 4 days. That's it. Nothing else to do unless you want to supplement, but you could do that in dirt too. How often do you water your plants in soil? Maybe half as of often? I'd say that's worth it to get bigger, healthier, pest free, mold free, root bound free, disease free harvests. If you have a problem in dirt, good luck and have fun. If you have a problem in hydro, drain the res, let em suck water for a day or two, then feed again only properly this time. That almost always fixes the problem. Try doing that in dirt.

After everything is tallied, I'd say the simple hydro grows are about the same amount of work as soil grows. Much less if we're talking about problem plants.

[Rock.Steady]

well, i wont try to get into a debate, cause i'm no expert, just goin on my experience and what i've seen/heard on hydro. but i know i went on a biz trip for 10days, had my roommate water once while i was gone and came home to a monsterous amount of growth.

all that measuring and testing, seems like alotta hubbub to me.

don't get me wrong, i enjoyed chemistry when i was in school, but, dirt just seems a lil simpler to me.

and maybe its just the fact that its a more 'natural' way of growin this nobel plant.
i got some personal peeves about 'chemicals' these days.

i do use organics,,,,with the exception of my foliar sprays.

[Weedhound]

I have to agree with Opie on this.....Scarlet Sky said it best when she went hydro.....it just doesn't make financial sense not to. Twice the harvest from the same lighting, time etc.....dirt just don't cut it no mo'. :wtf:

[stinkyattic]

Scarlet Sky said it best when she went hydro.....it just doesn't make financial sense not to. It's moot in her case though... don't even get me started.
Your deeds do indeed show your character...

[Rock.Steady]

It's moot in her case though... don't even get me started.
Your deeds do indeed show your character...

that so completely made my head pivot like a dog that heard a weird sound, wrinkled my nose too:wtf:

[SnSstealth]

no offense to any of ya hydro guys, but ive never had finished product dro taste, smell, or sometimes the finished high like soil. its really a matter of taste, pardon the pun, but if your into guys like jason king, author of the cannabible, and jack herer, most of those guys will take organic any day. now dont get it twisted, hydro is usually more practical for indoor. a good dro grower flushes right and everything, but im just a soil guy....lol

[stinkyattic]

Well-grown hydro can be up there with the best soil stuff. There are certified-organic nutrients meant for hydroponics, if you like the idea of no chemicals.

[cmasfca]

What exactly do you guys mean when you mention organic, or chemical free growing? Everything is a chemical at the atomic level, right?

[cmasfca]

This grow looks great as hell.

and what kind of light UR useing for flowering?

I have a 400w HPS that I have used for both the one week of veg and the flowering phase.

Weedhound,

The yellowing hasn't improved or gotten worse. I really think it's normally occurring in that strain. I will find out next time I grow some Arctic Sun.

[SnSstealth]

oraganic has no synthetic or chemical components. i use fox farm, they use bat guano, and earthworm castings for N. not synthetic chemicals

cma, how far into flowering did the yellowing start?

[cmasfca]

Ah, so no man-made chemicals? Is there a reason to use organic chemicals over synthetic?

The yellowing started about 3-4 weeks into flowering. The bud leaves are green and the fan leaves are yellow.

[KL4D4]

Thats normal, its just using the energy from those leaves, and soon you'll have new ones in their place.

[SnSstealth]

yeah man, the fan leaves are the first to start yellowing later in flowering, thats a good sign. tug it lightly, if its ready to come off it will, if its still in their good, leave it a lil longer. alot more will start lellowing closer to harvest. and i personally like organic better for taste and overall appearance. better cure, flavor, and high i think, but like rock said, i got a belly button too!...lol

[Weedhound]

So cm....what made you decide on the strain of your mom.....NL5 x Haze.....I ask because I've been toking on this variation of it that I grew. How do you like it and how long does it take to flower?

[cmasfca]

Well, I like it so far because it hasn't given me any troubles!

I hate to not be much help, but I chose it because at the club they only had NL5 x Haze, G13 x Sour Diesel x Purkle Urkle, Atomic Haze, Arctic Sun, and Delta 9. We didn't want to do an indica grow, so we didn't want Delta 9. We didn't want the indica feel that g13 pushes through that triple cross. We are growing Atomic Haze and Arctic Sun right now and we want variety so that left the NL5 x Haze.

The NL5 x Haze is a 8-10 week flowering cycle or so my club says. I'll tell you how I like it in a month or so :thumbsup:

What variation do you have exactly?

[SnSstealth]

id love to try that arctic sun...herad alot about it. love me some Jack herer though...lol

[cmasfca]

I picked up an eighth of Super Jack for $50 as a little treat to myself when I picked up the mommy. The guys there rock! (yes, girls too WH :P) I asked how much a peanut butter cup was after we paid him and he gave us a couple! They were usually $6 so that was super nice of them. The last time I picked up clones from that club I got two free cookies as well :)

Super Jack is Sour Diesel and Jack Herer. Mmmmm....

:S5:

[Weedhound]

The Sour Northern Lights x Neville's Haze.....turned out to have a pretty good punch.....especially the capsules. I've noticed it can give me a case of the "noids" here and there so wondered how it affected others.

[cmasfca]

I will definitely let you know how it turns out :) With your help we will grow some quality herb in various strains over the next couple years or so :thumbsup:

[SnSstealth]

mmmm diesel and jack... im anxious to see how this jack and bubbleberry will turn out.....

[cmasfca]

Here is some pictures of the babies today on the 54th day of flowering. Are those nanners growing on the fourth pic? It got me worried :(

Other than that, are those cloudy trichs? Do I need to whip out my microscope to be 100% sure?

Thanks!

[Weedhound]

Wait a minute! Yesterday's posts said day 46 or something......where did you get to day 54 already or did I miss something somewhere??

And I'm afraid those DO look like nanners to me.....kind of a funny shape but yes....did you use Reverse by any chance?

[SnSstealth]

looks like some scrote...lol....thats how i got my cross....could be good luck:smokin:...other than that, they look quite tasty...good work

[ilovetv247]

You don't have to ask me twice :)

I talked to my local hydro guy for about an hour the other day and he said that the discoloration might have been caused by a lockout from too much calmag. So, per his instructions I flushed my system and put in probloom at 20ml/gallon and calmag at 5ml/gallon.

The ppms are at 1250 right now and the ph is at 5.7. When the solution was first put in the reservoir it was 1260 at 5.9 ph.

I got a rubbermaid 18gal tub and a cheap pump. I now mix my nutes in that and then pump them into my res after the ph and ppms have been established. No more nasty concentrates hurting my roots :)

The res change was on saturday. How do they look?

My god, those look delicious! Especially that middle picture! The mods could use that as one of their example pictures or something :) very nicely done! If my grow can get 1/100th of what yours is, I'll be very lucky! Congratulations!

[SnSstealth]

very lovely pics man...what kinda cam you use again?

[cmasfca]

Well, I started flowering on the 6th of December. Counting on google's calander, aren't I 54 days into flowering?

I haven't used any Reverse. I thought those were new bud leaves but they haven't developed over a week or so. Should I pull them off?

Thanks!

[smokedoja]

no offense to any of ya hydro guys, but ive never had finished product dro taste, smell, or sometimes the finished high like soil.

and ive never yielded 10 oz's from a soil grow either...

dont get me wrong...yea i like the taste of organically grown bud...

but c'mon.... im not tryin to run out of buddah halfway into flowering!!!

I SMOKE ALOT!!!!

and i need a yield to match it!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: had to represent

HYDRO!!!

REPRESENT!!!

[smokedoja]

cmasfca--

sorry dude,, i originally meant to post a big

GREAT JOB

its just that Stealth's post dissin hydro riled me up!

i need to :stoned: LOL!

but again......

GREAT JOB

[cmasfca]

The camera is a FinePix F20, some little digicam.

Thanks for the represent smokedoja :bigsmoke:

[ilovetv247]

I wanted to start a grow log of my own. Do I need to have a certain number or posts or reputation before I can attach pictures? If not, how do I attach them?...I can't find where to when starting a new thread.

[smokedoja]

I wanted to start a grow log of my own. Do I need to have a certain number or posts or reputation before I can attach pictures? If not, how do I attach them?...I can't find where to when starting a new thread.

when posting.... click the "Go Advanced" button

right below the "submit reply" button.... there's another button called "Manage Attachments" ...click it

here you can either upload pics directly from your PC, or if you have a photobucket account or something...you can upload them from a URL!


Hope that helps!

[cmasfca]

You also need 50 posts; so stick around :)

[smokedoja]

oops i didnt know that.... they must've changed the rules since the last time i was here

[cmasfca]

So I was looking at some bud leaves with my microscope and it appears that most if not all the trichomes are cloudy and I am seeing a couple amber ones. I am getting nervous about those nanners and I pulled off a couple of the drier looking ones and there is a light green powder inside.

The trichome clear/cloudy/amber percent is about 5/90/5. Now that I have determined that I am on my 54th day of flowering due to a calandar error made earlier...what would you guys suggest? I don't want any seeds yet but if it happens it happens. What would be the best course of action favoring potency / bud weight without seeds?

[ilovetv247]

when posting.... click the "Go Advanced" button

right below the "submit reply" button.... there's another button called "Manage Attachments" ...click it

here you can either upload pics directly from your PC, or if you have a photobucket account or something...you can upload them from a URL!


Hope that helps!

Thanks a bunch. There's another website that must use the exact same forum program, so I thought I knew how to do all the features of posting, but I second-guessed myself when I didn't see the "Advanced" button.

I just checked and saw that cmasfca is right: need 50 posts before being able to upload pictures. I guess I'll just have to keep posting! It's a bummer though, because I am having a problem with one of my plants...I think it's a nitrogen overload problem, but I'm not sure...I was hoping to get some opinions.

Hopefully I can get in 44 more posts in within the next few days so I can get some help. :)

[Rock.Steady]

CM,
sorry to take so long, i wish i saw this earlier.

yes, as u confirmed from green powder, they are nads.

now, i reeeeeeeeeeally hope, u didnt open them in ur grow area, also, u must de-funk urself before u re-enter the ladies area!

u are a walking pollen bomb.

now, i am concerned about age of ur bud and wetness, but, u should maybe use an eyedropper, or a very fine tuned (narrow spray pattern) sprayer and wet those nads so as to not spread the dust.
them REMOVE, carefully and completely.
i used a tweezer, once i clamped down hard, gave a good solid twist.
then take the offending balls out of the area and rinse down the sink.
and de-funk urself again.

the up side is, it sounds like u are nearly done, so u may be cutting before there is substantial damage.

i went thru this previously, and WH walked me thru it:D

[cmasfca]

Rock,
This one plant has more than I would feel comfortable taking off. Like, they are all over the plant! I thought they were new bud leaves at first. No other plants have them. Should I spray the pricks once a day or so to keep it wet and just leave it there until harvest? If I really need to remove all of those nanners I will, but there is definitely a LOT more than what was in that picture.

Before I removed a couple of the nanners I moistened my fingers and then pulled them off. Then I dipped them into a glass of water then opened them. So, I think I am ok as far as that goes. When I get the go ahead I will wet them and if need be pull them off.

Thanks for the help guys(gals)!

[Rock.Steady]

i went back and looked at pics again.
holy hell dude, pic 5 looks like a dam outbreak!
maybe clip the whole bud?

how far is this spread?

get another wide angle shot, lets see the whole plant.

im worried that spraying Reverse now will be a high chance for mold/or bud rot.

lets see what ur working with.

[Rock.Steady]

can u quarrantine?

[Weedhound]

If he's at day 54 with mostly cloudy trichs he's VERY close to done.....at this point cm I'd get my Florakleen out and start flushing. I can link you to zandor's post about flushing.....you'll want to follow it if you're not sure how to do it.

At this point....what's done is done.....Seeds need several weeks to properly develop so any NEW nanners won't make any difference in the short time until harvest. I doubt I would bother misting or anything like that so far along and i think it would encourage mold etc....

You may very well find some seeds in your grow after harvest....they will be female but may be crosses of different strains so I'm not sure how that would affect whether or no you would want to grow them but I would certainly save them even if you don't and then you could hand them out to deserving friends and neighbors. ;)

[cmasfca]

Please do link me that post to flushing, that would be great!

I want to thank Rock.Steady personally on the forums, I've been talking to him about my nanner situation and he has really helped me through it.

Because I am close to harvest, I will just start flushing; I'll pick up a flushing agent tomorrow. I'm getting excited!

...so high. This other day my friends came and spent the night. They are growing themselves up in Norcal and visited my plants. They were having trouble keeping a crop over 2 weeks. I asked their info and their ph for the HYDRO setup was 6.5-6.8! LOL They bought an all in one grow cab and it was keeping temps around 80-90 lol so much for a turn key system. This was from sunlightsheds.com or something.

Anyways, I digress from my point. After they left the next day I found a debit card in the living room and it wasn't either of their names. How did this poor person's debit card get into my apt? It wasn't my roommate either :confused:

[Weedhound]

http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-faqs/103225-here-simple-proper-way-flush-your-plants-hydroponics-system.html

You pretty much can't go wrong at this point cm....if there was an earthquake at this moment and you had to yank everything right now you'd still be good with a fine end product.

So....CONGRATULATIONS :yippee::yippee::yippee:
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

:wave1:

[Weedhound]

More.....:D

:jumphappy:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[SnSstealth]

i agree with weedhound, i actually let a few herms pop when i see them, 20-30 seeds wont really effect potency of the plant noticebly(spelling?0...lol my grow now is a herm set of seeds from jack herer nadding my bubbleberry, and i wasnt dissin dro, just my opinion, i even said no offense, so settle down smokedoja:thumbsup:...lol. and i go for 60%cloudy and 30% amber for my preffered buzz cm. maybe just personal taste though:smokin:
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whiskeytango

[Rock.Steady]

CM
no worries dude, glad to 'talk ya down', LOL!!!

i knew we had to wait for input from WH b4 u made any final decisions.
glad u will go full on harvest.:thumbsup:

and Congrats!,
nice job,,,,damm site better than my 1st grow, yikes.:wtf:

[cmasfca]

Thank you for the kind words!

I couldn't have done it without you guys and girls :D

I am going to buy the flush tomorrow and start it. Do it for 5 days or so and then harvest! Because it is a SCRoG I think that I am just going to cut the fan leaves off and then cut at the base of the plant, then flip the screen upside down and hang to dry for a week. Then I am going to put into masonry jars for curing and I will be smoking through that process.

How does that sound?

[hydrocannabis]

new pix?

[cmasfca]

Lol, unfortunately before today I was telling you guys a wrong amount of flowering days! I am on the 54th day of flowering now, and the last time I posted pictures was a couple days ago. I may have said the 46th, but I meant the 52nd :P Sorry. So, the pictures are up to date but I have another one just because you asked, and I never deny :D