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keywestcathy
02-09-2005, 10:53 PM
Since when is it appropriate for self proclaimed 14 year old children to be in the Chat room? I'm not that old but I question the wisdom of having school children participate in this venue of communication.
I sell books on growing hydroponic marijuana on the web but I have disclaimers on the site and really try and "weed" thru the orders so my ideas are not impacting and influencing someone else's children. Am I out of line here?
bekind/Coloradojane
www.growweed.com

keywestcathy
02-09-2005, 11:02 PM
sorry...14 year olds....!!

chrace
02-09-2005, 11:11 PM
Since when is it appropriate for self proclaimed 14 year old children to be in the Chat room? I'm not that old but I question the wisdom of having school children participate in this venue of communication.
I sell books on growing hydroponic marijuana on the web but I have disclaimers on the site and really try and "weed" thru the orders so my ideas are not impacting and influencing someone else's children. Am I out of line here?
bekind/Coloradojane
www.growweed.com

pretty much

conqueror worm
02-09-2005, 11:22 PM
hey cathy- 14 year olds are pretty much who i would expect in a chat room, whether its about weed, sex, or anything else. it seems that most chat rooms are either under 21 or over 40. go figure...

do i want to chat with them about smoking? no, which is why i don't go in there. if you're looking to chat with other adults, there are plenty of places that cater to us. or maybe you can start a "chat" thread and try to set up a time when more adults will want to hang out - that might lure some older people in.

and yeah its illegal for kids to smoke pot (for us too!), but they're going to do it anyway, so they might as well chat about it and have some fun. ;)

Encatuse
02-09-2005, 11:38 PM
Yeah. I'm totally with you on this one. In fact.. all cannabis sites should sponsor censorship... ((I bullshit you completely))

- Encatuse

kyle
02-09-2005, 11:41 PM
im 14, i think i got as much right as any of you do to smoke pot and chat about it if i wish

kuulbns
02-09-2005, 11:42 PM
This is an 18 or over site, some of us get tired of babysitting.

Encatuse
02-09-2005, 11:44 PM
Since when has this been a fucking 18+ site? And who hired you to babysit Kuulbns? There are tons of valued members here who are under 18. You want 18+? Go inside a smoke shop where they regulate that and have a nice chat with some of the 60 year old men there to get their cigars.

EDIT:

Anyone see an age requirement in this and I'm just missing it?

"The Message Boards is where over 5,000 people gather daily and is a great place to get your cannabis questions answered. For live chat use our Chat Server. Give the Personals a try - meet others near you!"

Cannabis.com
02-09-2005, 11:47 PM
There are no age restrictions.

With that said, conqueror worm, has a good suggestion about setting up a time for an "adults only" chat ... not sure how one enforces access to that though.

A better approach would be to use the Cafe Members chat, which is coming soon - Cafe Members tend to be age 18+ and those who aren't (currently not aware of any) will more likely respect the rules about not entering a designated "adult only" area.

Ron

Encatuse
02-09-2005, 11:54 PM
I think rather then blatantly show prejudice against minors ((minors may be more likely to be immature.. but I assure you, there are PLENTY of immature 18+ people out there)) make a designated time for 'mature chatters', ensure that a moderator there can kick and ban who he wants for whatever he deems to be immature. I think a policy similar to the army's "Don't ask, don't tell" applied to age would work just fine here. But, I suppose if there comes a point where you have to be 18+ to enter these boards or a chat on here... well.. my new birth date will be April 21st 1986 rather then 1988.. -laughs-

kuulbns
02-09-2005, 11:54 PM
My Mistake. Thought there was an age disclaimer for this site. Must have been another place.

LilRedDevil
02-10-2005, 12:00 AM
I will not say I'm okay with it! As a matter of fact I have felt a little split when comming here, in one hand I was 13 when I started to smoke pot :( In the other hand, Now I am 30 and have a 13 yr old. I think the fact that I am an addict at 30 is kinda sad, and I admit I feel strange at times chatting or posting to kids my son might be in school with.

JMHO :)

Smoke on!

Nullific
02-10-2005, 12:12 AM
Overgrow had an 18+ policy, they delete your account if you post enough information to indicate you're a minor. Censorship started to get a bit out of hand, so now im here.

NowhereMan
02-10-2005, 12:13 AM
it aint your age or even the IQ but the persona that is excepted or rejected
to me anyway thats how its seems just a observation
be honest now

its for entertainment only
some these mofo;s are just flat out funny
harmless
silly assed lunatics on the fringe of a good buzz
some aint though

so enjoy your entertainment i say and
be who your are

peace

whaddaphuck
02-10-2005, 12:36 AM
someone once said, "age is nothing but a number"..dunno who it was, but i think its very truthfull, and fitting for this thread!
peace

keywestcathy
02-10-2005, 12:49 AM
Very interesting feedback. Makes me rethink my original posting. However, I learned how to cultivate and do what I do from my parents which I understand is unusual.
Guess it's not the 14 somethings but the guidance they are not getting.
Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. I'm still weeding out the under 18's who want to order my book!
Cathy

RESiNATE
02-10-2005, 01:04 AM
it aint your age or even the IQ but the persona that is excepted or rejected

*applauds*...nicely put NWM, I agree.

Dick Justice
02-10-2005, 01:33 AM
I'm sixteen. In my short lifetime I've smoked marijuana, eaten mushrooms, dropped acid, smoked salvia, eaten woodrose seeds, taken 2C-I, snorted cocaine (once), and snorted Vicodin and Xanax.

Not to blow my own horn, but if you rake through my posts, you're not going to find any "yo dis weed b tha bomm i fekkin luv ridin wit mi homees" type of bullshit. I try to conduct myself in a way that's gonna lead people to take me seriously. I don't think my age has anything to do with it.

Two cents: inserted.

The C
02-10-2005, 01:51 AM
I understand you concerns about an age cap, a bit?

Whats your books about cathy? :) .

GHoSToKeR
02-10-2005, 01:53 AM
The day this site or this site's chatroom becomes age restricted is the day I leave it. A Cannabis website should be the last place you would expect any kind of prejudism.

Kuulbns, since when have you been babysitting? Since i'm under 18, I would like to know when exactly it was that you felt you were babysitting me. I look forward to your response, because I can't for the life of me remember when it was. Thanks in advance.

AloeVera
02-10-2005, 02:03 AM
I'm sixteen. In my short lifetime I've smoked marijuana, eaten mushrooms, dropped acid, smoked salvia, eaten woodrose seeds, taken 2C-I, snorted cocaine (once), and snorted Vicodin and Xanax.

Not to blow my own horn, but if you rake through my posts, you're not going to find any "yo dis weed b tha bomm i fekkin luv ridin wit mi homees" type of bullshit. I try to conduct myself in a way that's gonna lead people to take me seriously. I don't think my age has anything to do with it.

Two cents: inserted.


:) nicely done :)

keywestcathy
02-10-2005, 02:04 AM
Hi C.......www.growweed.com

kuulbns
02-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Ghost, neither are you 14. If you read, I appoligized for my mistake. You and I have had many conversations, never had a problem. Because I happen to take the view that there are to many youngsters in chat at times now you have a problem? There are times I'm sure you have come accross yourself that there are CHILDREN, some younger than 14 in chat. It does make me feel like a babysitter, if ya haven't noticed, 99% of the time I say nothing and just leave. Not because of their chronological age but because of the maturity level. At my OLD age, (kick me out I'm too old and have no right to say what I happen to think) seeing kids 14 doing DXM and CCC for fun scares the shit out of me. Having some 12 year old in chat (not positive on age can't remember exact conversation) bragging about taking this stuff was not good. When she was told the stuff was dangerous (by 3 people, one of whom is 17) she didn't want to hear it. To me 14 is to young, sorry I'm a granny, How old do you think is appropriate? If next a 10 year old wants to talk pills he found in his rents room would that still be cool? Sorry, this is too long, but it remains that I never singled out anyone, as a generalization, the kids 14 and under are neither physically or mentally mature, they are just not finished growing. Whatever works for you, Great!!! Eventually you'll be older too (I have 3 grandkids, my kids are grown and gone) and 14 year olds will seem like babies to you. Love, Kuu

Dick Justice
02-10-2005, 02:17 AM
That is pretty creepy. 12 is young to be doing any drugs, no doubt. We're just reacting to the "under 18" generalization.

kuulbns
02-10-2005, 02:22 AM
It was a mistake Dick, if you click on Cathy's link it is age restricted. It was a mistake I made reading with too many windows opened, I will again apologize.

LilRedDevil
02-10-2005, 02:58 AM
I'm sixteen. In my short lifetime I've smoked marijuana, eaten mushrooms, dropped acid, smoked salvia, eaten woodrose seeds, taken 2C-I, snorted cocaine (once), and snorted Vicodin and Xanax.

Not to blow my own horn, but if you rake through my posts, you're not going to find any "yo dis weed b tha bomm i fekkin luv ridin wit mi homees" type of bullshit. I try to conduct myself in a way that's gonna lead people to take me seriously. I don't think my age has anything to do with it.

Two cents: inserted.

:D very well put! ;)

GHoSToKeR
02-10-2005, 03:14 AM
Ghost, neither are you 14. If you read, I appoligized for my mistake. You and I have had many conversations, never had a problem. Because I happen to take the view that there are to many youngsters in chat at times now you have a problem? There are times I'm sure you have come accross yourself that there are CHILDREN, some younger than 14 in chat. It does make me feel like a babysitter, if ya haven't noticed, 99% of the time I say nothing and just leave. Not because of their chronological age but because of the maturity level. At my OLD age, (kick me out I'm too old and have no right to say what I happen to think) seeing kids 14 doing DXM and CCC for fun scares the shit out of me. Having some 12 year old in chat (not positive on age can't remember exact conversation) bragging about taking this stuff was not good. When she was told the stuff was dangerous (by 3 people, one of whom is 17) she didn't want to hear it. To me 14 is to young, sorry I'm a granny, How old do you think is appropriate? If next a 10 year old wants to talk pills he found in his rents room would that still be cool? Sorry, this is too long, but it remains that I never singled out anyone, as a generalization, the kids 14 and under are neither physically or mentally mature, they are just not finished growing. Whatever works for you, Great!!! Eventually you'll be older too (I have 3 grandkids, my kids are grown and gone) and 14 year olds will seem like babies to you. Love, Kuu
I agree to some extent.

"seeing kids 14 doing DXM and CCC for fun scares the shit out of me." It scares the shit out of me, too

The only thing I dont understand is this: These kids aren't getting these drugs from anybody on this website, and this website is not encouraging them to take these drugs. Also, if these kids didnt come to this website, they would undoubtedly still be doing these drugs. Banning them from this website won't help in the slightest. And since when has it been wrong for kids to TALK about drugs? This website is a great place for people who are inexperienced with drugs to ask questions and find out anmy information they need. They can learn how to use these drugs safely, and perhaps even be discouraged from using them. Banning them from this site would be extremely counter-productive.

kuulbns
02-10-2005, 03:41 AM
Okay, I understand your point. Try to tell someone they shouldn't take something, or even tell them to read up on it and be careful, know what you're doing first! I tried to explain the effects of a particular drug and directed someone to Erowid in regards to meds they swiped from their rents room. Unfortunately, I didn't seem to make an impression. Wish I could take all these little ones and make life better for them, But I can't.

DarkFire
02-10-2005, 04:01 AM
HEH U GUYS COULDNT B MORE WRONG LMFAO. When i first came here more than 6 months ago (wasnt registered), i wasnt a real hardcore weed smoker. But then coming here.... wow i saw another world that i right away wanted to join! I thought that smoking weed every day is unthinkable and ruins ur life, but now i c that u guys dont just smoke every day, u smoke A FUCK LOAD every day! that really gave me the boost to get involved.

u guys didnt influence me, u kinda educated me with your own lifestyles. smoking so much weed everyday and being perfectly fine is something everyone should know. the real decition to smoke or not was up to me, these forums just gave me the facts. im 15 and only do weed/dxm/alcohol, but i have same aged friends who are practically pharmacists with every single drug. some youth on these forums can b more knowledgeable than anything else, not always, but school doesnt just teach you what teachers teach......

slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 04:47 AM
i agree with most of you guys. nice to see beans and ghost come to an agreement. this is great place for kids to learn and ask quesitons about drugs. you see posts with people asking about particular drugs. if this website was not here for them, they would just do what felt right or what they heard from someone....which with the right drugs, could be a life threatening situation. also the posts voice other peoples opinons.....so you can get a better generaliztion of what it is you want to know.

RESiNATE
02-10-2005, 09:17 AM
When i first came here...i wasnt a real hardcore weed smoker. But then coming here.... wow i saw another world that i right away wanted to join! ...
u guys didnt influence me, u kinda educated me with your own lifestyles. .....
Kinda contradictory there, Darkfire ;)
But, I think I get your point.

I agree absolutely with your last point though, Darkfire - schools do NOT seem to discuss drug use and effect, which is a real problem.

I am a father of 2 children, both are still very young, and one of my biggest worries is that they will 'learn' about drugs from some unscrupulous character who is only interested in immediate profit - I hope that I am laying the foundations that will enable my kids to be able to approach me with any such questions.
I agree also, that a place such as this offers a balanced argument for and against certain drug use - whether that be through research, or indeed experience - a wholly good thing, I think. Just because I don't agree with the use of certain things, or that I worry that some kids seem to want to get high just for the sake of getting high (and in so doing, place themselves in great danger), doesn't mean that it aint gonna happen. I think I'd rather learn about their experiences to gain a better insight into stuff that I don't have any prior knowledge about.

It's a shame that the education system doesn't seem to share this philosophy, because as we all know, death is usually the result of ignorance.

I've spoken to a fair few people on this site - of all ages - and found the vast majority to be well informed, regardless of their age. I am of the dispostion that I'd rather be aware of what my kids were up to, rather than have some cop knock on my door one day and tell me something terrible - something that I know alot of parents have happen to them, just because they choose to stick their heads in the sand.
I would hope that my kids would have the courage and respect to ask me, but failing that, I think I would be glad to know that they came to a place like this and asked questions - as long as they listened to the 'advice' or guidance given.

If a minor came on here and started to act irresponsibly (use of certain language and attitudes), then I think it is as much our responsibility to try and change that person's attitude towards a more responsible and respectful one, rather than belittle them and run the risk of turning them away from what is essentially a well informed and educated bunch of people.
After all, if they can't rely on us to give them an unbiased and informative response to their questions, then who can they turn to?

Good debate, folks :)

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
02-10-2005, 10:20 AM
Personally i only read a lil of this thread, but im only 15 and i tihnk its retarded to judge a person jsut cuz theyre age just because the age of the ppl at this site isnt appealing to you doesnt mean you need to make it better for you, i mean wtf its just kinda stupid sry im fuckign blazed and i thought i twas stupid

notanovice
02-10-2005, 11:09 AM
Very interesting feedback. Makes me rethink my original posting. However, I learned how to cultivate and do what I do from my parents which I understand is unusual.
Guess it's not the 14 somethings but the guidance they are not getting.
Thanks again for your thoughtful insights. I'm still weeding out the under 18's who want to order my book!
Cathy


I totally agree with this Cathy
i also would like to state that most KIDS who are under the age of 18 that are on this sight will show their immaturity, those that are respectful and act more mature than their actual age on here are few, but, there are some young adults who act way younger than 14, so do as i do and take it with a grain of salt and bite the bullet

peace
and
grass

robert42
02-10-2005, 11:32 AM
i agree to the above post.

and i agree with what ghost sed too.

kyle
02-10-2005, 04:02 PM
Ron thats a good point and probably a good idea to have a 18+ chat time, im 14 but i still agree,

btw, love ur site!

az666
02-10-2005, 04:16 PM
isnt it just going to fuck your bodies up more if you start using anything from an early age...i wish i had of waited a wee bit longer before i started smoking cause i think it has had a negative effect on my life in the past but its not till recently i realized what i was doin and slowed down...not sure where this fits in in this thread but my views are as ghost said apart from the odd few this site isnt going to make people start doin drugs...

Byker
02-10-2005, 04:26 PM
This is an 18 or over site, some of us get tired of babysitting.

Exactly. And I never chat with anyone who identifies as under 18. Last thing I want is to be accused of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor."
:mad:

BOgart.bitch
02-10-2005, 04:45 PM
there arent any age limitations on the chatroom and until there are, people who are offended by younger kids being in the chatroom will either have to deal with it or not go into chat.. i personally dont mind the 14 yr olds in there.. they are bored just like everyone else.. and if they are offended/confused by the information presented to them in the chat then they can leave or ask for clarification. besides, i think people really underestimate these "teens"... age is just a number, experience is where we grow. who is to say that these 14 year olds arent wiser than some of the 20 year olds in chat?

Rarrr
02-10-2005, 05:42 PM
wow! Im quite surprised about some of the opinions in here. We're all pot smokers yet there seems to be prejudice against the younger crowd because of their age although the older crowd were most likely doing the same thing at their age (younger crowd). We shouldnt be arguing about such a small thing as age as its only time and experience that creates it. We should all unite against a common enemy. THE GOVERNMENT!!!!

slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 05:52 PM
We just will learn to get through this. If you didn't notice since you've been smoking, weed does bring people of all diff kinds together with a common interest and view of life and what not. It is the same thing here. We all live on differnent parts of the earth, but weed is what brought us together, and learn different views and opinions of different people in differnent places all over earth. Thats how i feel about this website anyways, and thats why i like it....but also why i dont mind the younger kids in here. True they do get immature sometimes but guess what? thats growing up.

Encatuse
02-10-2005, 06:00 PM
Exactly. And I never chat with anyone who identifies as under 18. Last thing I want is to be accused of "contributing to the delinquency of a minor."
:mad:


U R STUPID 2 THINK THAT WE R AWL EMETURE.. SOME OF US MINORS R VERY SMART AND SHOOD BE TAKEN SERIUSLY, OK??//// BCUZ WE SMOKE LOTS OF WEED JUS LIKE U SO NO REASON NOT 2 OK??//

This moment of mental retardation has been brought to you by Encatuse.

AloeVera
02-10-2005, 06:27 PM
LOL Encatuse, nice :D

hunny
02-10-2005, 07:39 PM
concernin the age thingy ,,,personally in chat if theres under 16's in ,i say first that they shouldnt be in there (my opinion as moderator ) give them the option of leavin b4 i boot them,,,,,most under 16's iv come across r immature an shouldnt be in the company of adults,.,,i agree wat Ron said about havin the adult chat an bein able to sit an chat with peeps ur own age etc would be beneficial to all ages not just adults,,,,,

Syrus
02-10-2005, 07:41 PM
im gonna say one thing, im 16, where i live im of legal smoking age, the only law im breakngi is the same one everyoen else here is.

Byker
02-10-2005, 07:54 PM
im gonna say one thing, im 16, where i live im of legal smoking age, the only law im breakngi is the same one everyoen else here is.

Well, in my state you're supposed to be 18 to buy tobacco, but that's really not the point.

The problem is that we all agree we're discussing illegal activities. That isn't against the law, in and of itself -- you can talk about what you want to, you just can't do it.

But it is against the law for someone who is an adult to entice or encourage someone who's a minor to break the law. Given the current political climate, it's not a good idea to forget this. I certainly wouldn't want to even be accused of encouraging delinquency, whether or not I thought I actually did that.

That's why I say I don't chat with anyone under 18. So if you're younger, well, all I'll say is, "Don't try this at home, kids!". Come back when you've been outside the womb for at least 441,763,201 seconds :confused:, and I'll be glad to meet'cha! :)

slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 10:01 PM
there is no way you are attributing to the deliquency of minors. and anyone who would accuse you of doing would obviously be an idiot themselves. that would be such an ignorant accusation.....think about it.

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
02-10-2005, 10:06 PM
concernin the age thingy ,,,personally in chat if theres under 16's in ,i say first that they shouldnt be in there (my opinion as moderator ) give them the option of leavin b4 i boot them,,,,,most under 16's iv come across r immature an shouldnt be in the company of adults,.,,i agree wat Ron said about havin the adult chat an bein able to sit an chat with peeps ur own age etc would be beneficial to all ages not just adults,,,,,
I think this is dumb just because some people are immature doesnt mean everyone is, i mean im 15 so what am i not allowed in chat now? and if ur in there im going to get booted? because thats fucking retarded and if your going to start doing that im just gonna fucking leave the site all together because wth i mean all i want to do is chat about my beloved maryjane, but i cant because im too young, its retarded

Hektik
02-10-2005, 10:14 PM
im 14, i think i got as much right as any of you do to smoke pot and chat about it if i wish
I agree. Age is just a number. Hell i know some 14 year old who are smarter then me. I guess i'm just one of those i don't give a fuck kinda guys :confused:

Encatuse
02-10-2005, 10:16 PM
most under 16's iv come across r immature an shouldnt be in the company of adults

I agree completely. A large number of adults are close-minded and blatantly ignorant like yourself. I truly would hate to see your influence on our upcoming generation.


Listen people: There is NO SUCH THING as a magic number. The government created an age for adulthood and so many buy into the thought that being 18 means your mentally an adult. Just because you've finished puberty and are a legal adult.. doesn't mean you're any more ((proven by the above quote)) intelligent, any more mature, nor any more a decent human being then the 12 year old next door.

slipnslide087
02-10-2005, 10:23 PM
thats true too. nobody is mentally mature at 18. but kids do seem to change a lot from 9th-12th grade throughout highschool. but thats still not there peak maturity, no ones.

4252
02-10-2005, 11:42 PM
I was 14 once, and cursed with the memory of what it was like. At that age, I'd have been rigteously indignant if anyone censored or restricted me in any way, as I was aware of the mechanics of adulthood, and practicing to be one.

I wouldn't have understood very well that some things in life I was truly not ready for, and that being denied, say, the right to drive in the Indy 500 wasn't an outright insult to my maturity and an effort of the adult conspiracy to keep it from me, but a rather thoughtful effort to keep me from destroying myself prematurely. In the process.

If it's wrong to exclude younger people from some of these discussions, it might not be a bad idea to temper some of the things we say with the knowledge that there are those out there who lack the experience to weigh what they read, against the consequences. Through no fault of their own.

It's OK to be young, but you have to survive the period in order for it to pay off.

42

Rarrr
02-10-2005, 11:57 PM
Im 19 any am seeing the adults behave more immaturely than the so called "kids" in this particular thread. Those who bring up the arguement of "too young" are basing their veiws on their own experiences and learning at that age. Being young is all about learning and as stated earlier this forum provides some form of learning for these kids. Weed is illegal so whoever says that kids shouldnt smoke weed is a hypocrite. These "kids" should be let learn from experience instead of being secluded (in this particular case anyway)

GHoSToKeR
02-11-2005, 01:00 AM
I don't chat with anyone under 18.
oh, what a shame.. please, please, please let us talk to you. Seriously. I'll even pay you



:rolleyes:


Can't you guys see that saying people under the ages of 18 or 16 shouldnt do or talk about the same ILLEGAL things as you is as bad people saying its okay to drink alcohol but not to smoke weed. Like Encatuse said, the 'magic numbers' of 16, 18 and 21 are just something some politician decided was right. Think for your goddam selves.

BOgart.bitch
02-11-2005, 04:44 AM
concernin the age thingy ,,,personally in chat if theres under 16's in ,i say first that they shouldnt be in there (my opinion as moderator ) give them the option of leavin b4 i boot them,,,,,most under 16's iv come across r immature an shouldnt be in the company of adults,.,,i agree wat Ron said about havin the adult chat an bein able to sit an chat with peeps ur own age etc would be beneficial to all ages not just adults,,,,,

you boot someone based on age from a chatroom on a website where all ages are welcome? i find that irresponsible. honestly, generalizing and stereotyping is immature in itself - so by doing that, who are you to talk?

DarkFire
02-11-2005, 05:55 AM
haha now i c y i was banned from the chatrooms! i typed out that i was 15! im gonna hve to reset my ip to talk again....

Encatuse
02-11-2005, 06:14 AM
Hunny... if you believe that Ron should have an adult chat.. that means you recognize the fact that under normal circumstances that chat is open to all ages just as Ron intended. I imagine Ron, and the majority of forum members would appreciate you stopping your admitted and obvious abuse of power based on personal opinon.

Perhaps a Poll is in order? I'll be honest. The day Hunny boots me from chat for being 16, is the day I find a new forum to wander.

Hunny, perhaps you should re-think it the next time you consider banning someone based on age. Ron has made it clear that currently there is no age requirement for these forums nor the chat here. I'm sure you're a wonderful moderator, I'm not doubting that, but ageism is just as ignorant as racism and sexism. How would you like it if you got kicked from chat merely for being old? Or for being female? You see the flaws in this no doubt, perhaps you should take a moment and think over your views. I'm sure you'll see the flaws in your ageism as well.

Cannabis.com
02-11-2005, 08:25 AM
To clear up any confusion for all visitors, mods, admins, etc ...

There are NO age restrictions.

Folks who don't like that policy are free to select a different room - yes, there really is more than one; room list is shown on right-hand side of the chat window; chat direct with certain folks using P2P feature, and ignore what's being said in the room; there is an ignore feature that works wonders.

Hope this helps and clears up any confusion - to reiterate, there are NO age restrictions.

Ron

Rarrr
02-11-2005, 08:43 AM
well said

notanovice
02-11-2005, 01:16 PM
of course, y`all know most of the negative posts for this thread come from peoples experiences with dealing with minors.
there is a legal issue here, discussing how to`s and such with a minor is punishable by inprisonment. i have noticed alot of the minors on here are of a mature, responsible mentality, but y`all got to understand that there are legal ramifications when a person of legal age talks to or advises on an illegal activity. i know this is true in the U.S.A and Canada, i cant speak for other countries

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 02:42 PM
QUOTE- notanovice says-"of course, y`all know most of the negative posts for this thread come from peoples experiences with dealing with minors.
there is a legal issue here, discussing how to`s and such with a minor is punishable by inprisonment. i have noticed alot of the minors on here are of a mature, responsible mentality, but y`all got to understand that there are legal ramifications when a person of legal age talks to or advises on an illegal activity. i know this is true in the U.S.A and Canada, i cant speak for other countries"

-hmmmmm....bullshit! Second thing is, just because you guys remember how immature you guys used to be, times have changed a little bit since 1960-1970. kids are growing up a little faster. Thats so ignorant and opinonated of you to not talk to anyone because they are just younger than 18. what right do you have to judge others based on something like age? oopppinnionnnsss ohhhh opinnionnnsss. get off your high horse novice. in about 10 years you will need to be banned because i know some people about 50 who are already senile. thats potential for you starting to give people wrong info, possibly ending in death or serious injury.

robert42
02-11-2005, 04:27 PM
to each his own

to each his goddamn own

BOgart.bitch
02-11-2005, 04:40 PM
of course, y`all know most of the negative posts for this thread come from peoples experiences with dealing with minors.
there is a legal issue here, discussing how to`s and such with a minor is punishable by inprisonment. i have noticed alot of the minors on here are of a mature, responsible mentality, but y`all got to understand that there are legal ramifications when a person of legal age talks to or advises on an illegal activity. i know this is true in the U.S.A and Canada, i cant speak for other countries

half the shit on these boards is of an illicit nature

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 04:42 PM
you cant be charged with that from talking about it i knwo this for a fact man. if you were buying them alcohol and weed and other drugs, that would be contributing to deliquency of minors. talking about shit is not by any means ctdom.

maryjanemama
02-11-2005, 07:25 PM
Idiots come in all ages. Cannabis is illegal. It's not illegal to talk about it, and it's not illegal to talk about it to young ppl. It all depends on who you want to speak to...switch chat rooms, I guess, if there's someone young in there that you don't want to know all of your big "adult" secrets.

hunny
02-11-2005, 07:50 PM
in my defense ,,,as i said most under 16's iv spoke to in chat r so bloody immature an piss most of the peeps in there with their shit an hormonal crap......as Ron said there aint no age limit but in my view in chat there should,,an if there is an immature person WHO HAPPENS TO BE UNDER 16 i will still boot ...there have been a few under 16's in there that aint been immature an iv not had a reason to boot them ,,,i have in my 5 yrs of bein on this site come across really bad shit an as i said most r under 16's
with that said...i was in agreement about the adult chat as i dont like chattin with guys/girls as old as my son about silly shit iv done on weed etc as most folks in chat who have the same point of view as myself,,i am not bein biased in my view,,i have no problem with younger guys/girls comin on this site for info etc ..but not comin into the chatroom an listenin to adult convos an takin the piss etc as iv seen it happen many a time..they should have their own room for chattin with peeps their own age

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 07:57 PM
adult convos???? please thats fucking stupid. i do agree there are some immature kids here. but listnening to addult convos? i dont think anyone here is under age 12. if someones acting immature, boot them out, thats fine. but seriously....maybe you should consider a chatroom only for nalu, kuulbns, byker and notanovice since you guys are so much more advanced than everyone else here.

keywestcathy
02-11-2005, 08:06 PM
After reading ALL of the thoughful responses, I apologize to anyone who felt my original post was an effort to exclude any of the interesting people who post here. Many of you (Encatuse, Slipnslide, etc.) have made me think about the issue a lot more from a different point of view.
I guess this really does work, doesn't it???
bekind/Cathy

kuulbns
02-11-2005, 08:17 PM
Slip, I have appologized twice, what more do ya want? I made a mistake and admitted to it. I also appologize for offending anyone. There have been times I have come accross situations that bother me. I may have expressed it wrong, but it's a fact that there are some people that have recently been offensive in chat and in many instances I simply left. I should have thought of the other rooms there but I had forgotten all about them. If you speak to most people that frequent the chat feature, I think you'll find I'm pretty decent. Love, Kuu

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 08:23 PM
im sorry man i didnt mean to name off people in my last thread...i was just venting bc i just had a rough one way talk with my dying gpa since i might not make it today before hes dead. peace guys. no prob kullbns....now im apologizing to everyone i named in my last thread, hunny, byker, kuuilbns, nalu, and notanovice. i understand where everyone of you were coming from, some of it was just blown a little out of proportion. later guys.

BostonToker
02-11-2005, 08:25 PM
Fuck it, I will talk to 14 years about anything they want to talk about. I mean why not they have to learn it from somewhere

notanovice
02-11-2005, 08:32 PM
you cant be charged with that from talking about it i knwo this for a fact man. if you were buying them alcohol and weed and other drugs, that would be contributing to deliquency of minors. talking about shit is not by any means ctdom.
threatin a minor on here and see what happens!
i may be of an old age, but, back then minors werent the problem
back then physical punishment wasnt frowned upon
back then minors had more respect for elders
back then when i was in bagdad, you were in dad`s bag
i`ll show respect to most, but just because i`m from a different generation doesnt mean i dont understand your generation
i`m sorry if i offend you, it may be because i got off my high horse and sunk down to your level
i want to ask you this, did you actually read my post or did you rush through it. nothing demeaning to minors was posted in my post.
read it thoroughly and then see what you think.

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 08:36 PM
this isnt an argument anymore boston.....now its a peace movement so read whats goin on before you post anymore ignorant things as such.

slipnslide087
02-11-2005, 08:45 PM
your right nota.....i got you mixed up with kuulbns... sorry man. later

Byker
02-11-2005, 09:22 PM
there is no way you are attributing to the deliquency of minors. and anyone who would accuse you of doing would obviously be an idiot themselves. that would be such an ignorant accusation.....think about it.


Oh, I am thinking about it ...

Don't misunderstand me. I'm not preaching to anyone about what they should do. I'm only saying for myself that I don't chat with anyone on CC who identifies as under 18, because I don't want to be accused of impropriety.

Why?

Right now, we have a Federal government that's bent on enforcing its own concept of Family Values. What's that mean?

Well, Tommy Chong (of Cheech & Chong) did nine months in pound-you-up-the-wazoo, no-parole Federal prison for ... what?

Selling drugs? Nope.

Caught with drugs? Uh-huh.

Advocating drug use? Not much. No more than this place does, anyway.

Selling smoking equipment? Yup. He sold water pipes. What you put in them might be your business, but he got nine months for making them his business.

You'd think that the guy selling the pipe isn't what the government would go for. It's the people using drugs, and conspiring to distribute or obtain them to that they'd be after. Right?

Well, we also have the porcine pontificator of the Right, Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh is addicted to prescription painkillers, and he paid his housekeeper to fake illnesses in front of a doctor to obtain them.

What he did wasn't just simple posession. It was also fraud and conspiracy, and oh, by the way, the dude is an addict.

Has he gone to Federal jail? Nope. Why not?

Well, why do you think? Because he's not guilty? Bwaaaaa-haaa-haaaa!

No. It's because for a decade or more, he's been a strong supporter of just this kind of government, and just this kind of administration. Even if he's a big, lying hypocrite.

It's great to be able to say, "Oh, we should fight the government." That's a lot easier than doing it. And in my case, the mere accusation of my doing something wrong would have me fired from my job, whether or not the accusation was idiotic.

So I make this decision for myself. Sorry if you don't like it, but hey, I'm not telling anyone else what they should do. Just deciding for me.

RESiNATE
02-12-2005, 01:19 AM
Throughout most of my life, I have been able to talk to people of varying ages and status.
Bizarrely, I am a naturally shy and introspective person, but I do seem to have a knack for communication. It matters little to me about a person's material worth or social standing, I am interested with the person's spirit and passion.
However, I do not suffer fools gladly, and if the person that I'm talking with shows an acute lack of comprehension or open-mindedness, then I'm afraid that my interest begins to wane, and I'll invariably end up taking the piss, or if I'm able, then I'll twist their heads up so much, that they'll spend the next four hours wondering, "how did he explain the corelatives between linear mathematics, and the evolution of mice?"
And I don't care how old you are!

I have found that, since I have become a father, I am able to talk to very young children easier - not down to them, but I feel more comfortable than I did when I was a teenager, and stuff.

I'll talk to anyone, 7, 10, 14, 18, 30, 56, 103 year olds...as long as they are interesting and have something to say, give a fuck about age, it's about what's being said.

There is no way that censorship of conversation should even be considered to be applied against minors. We want our youngsters to be as informed as possible - it's a mad, bad, world out there - expression may benefit from a slight tone-down, but the facts should remain true. When we look at stuff such as under-age pregnacy, we know from countless studies, that the majority of these potential young parents come from a background where the topic of sex is extremely tabboo.

When my kids ask me a question, I'll give them as honest an answer as I can - I'll simplify my explaination somewhat (they are only 6 & 4yrs old), but tell them straight.
I also try to make them feel comfortable about asking questions - after all, there may come a day when they'll ask me a very serious question...a question such as one that, tragically, some parents had wished their child had asked them.
It's VERY important.

But if during the conversation, a person starts acting like a gimp about it, then they are obviously not of a mental capacity to even digest what is being said...waste of breath, waste of time, you are the weakest link...goodbye!

Anyway, I going to sit on the floor, with my legs around my neck, and hum for a bit.

GHoSToKeR
02-12-2005, 03:36 PM
THERE ARE NO AGE RESTRICTIONS.

IF YOU FEEL THE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING 'ADULT' IN CHAT, AND DONT THINK A MINOR SHOULD HERE IT, THEN IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD LEAVE, NOT THE MINOR. IF HUNNY IS BANNING PEOPLE FROM CHAT FOR BEING UNDER 18, BECAUSE OF HER PERSONAL OPINION, THEN SHE WAS A BAD CHOICE FOR A MODERATOR.

crystal clear pepsi
02-13-2005, 11:07 AM
some these mofo;s are just flat out funny :D
harmless :rolleyes:
silly assed lunatics on the fringe of a good buzz ;)


peace


HAHAH OH SO TRUE :)

XTC
02-13-2005, 12:26 PM
I think there should be some cut off limit for a this website. I mean if some 10-14 yr old comes on here and see's all these things one could buy from a store let alone and get fucked up, they might go out and pop god knows what, just to get a 'high'. Young kids seem to be easily influenced by older kids and want to do "what is cool". Doing 'what is cool' could potentially be lethal for that kid if he doesnt research it enough. Personally I think 16 should the age restriction here. Anyone younger than that shouldnt be a member. I know I will get a lot of shit for this, just my two cents and opinion, No offense.

Kid Dynamite
02-13-2005, 12:37 PM
i think that whoever wants to come on hereshould be allowed. I can understand some people thinking "stupid teenagers, theyre too immature" but just because most of dickheads are kids dosent mean most of the kids are dickheads, if you catch my drift.

dog420
02-13-2005, 12:49 PM
Age limit.....hhahahahahaha welcome to the 21st century

Peace

Jimmicrackedcorn
02-13-2005, 04:28 PM
If some1 trusts 100% what is said by strangers on a website, so much so to put there health at risk, then them 10-14 yr olds aint gonna liv to long anyway.

Sensi Super Skunk
02-13-2005, 06:22 PM
Yeah, not all teens are the same. Also, not all adults are not the same. You can't stereotype all teens just because what a small percentage of them did or do.

Cannabis.com
02-13-2005, 11:00 PM
Just keep in mind that a 10 year old or whatever can find much disturbing information at any decent public library.

With that said, the youngest folks coming in on this site tend to be around age 14.

There are no age restrictions for various reasons, including one that will seem counterintuitive to many people ... having age restrictions can actually make one *more* liable.

Lastly, folks with age hangups should think back to when they were young ... kids are not dumb - it's better they get the proper information as opposed to none at all - kids kept in the "dark" so to speak are likely to get themselves into far more trouble; not know where to turn - the internet is a great resource, but make no mistake, much of the information contained on it is similar to what one can find in any decent public library ... should they have age restrictions too? Ok, a few do, but most do not - and librarians, as a group, are strongly opposed to such restrictions ... ok, I digressed a bit here, but hopefully any folks still hungup on the age aspect understand why the *no age restrictions* policy is in place here.

Ron

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
02-13-2005, 11:15 PM
I think there should be some cut off limit for a this website. I mean if some 10-14 yr old comes on here and see's all these things one could buy from a store let alone and get fucked up, they might go out and pop god knows what, just to get a 'high'. Young kids seem to be easily influenced by older kids and want to do "what is cool". Doing 'what is cool' could potentially be lethal for that kid if he doesnt research it enough. Personally I think 16 should the age restriction here. Anyone younger than that shouldnt be a member. I know I will get a lot of shit for this, just my two cents and opinion, No offense.
im 15 i know uve seen some of my posts, do you think i shouldnt be allowed ot be a member?

GHoSToKeR
02-14-2005, 12:18 AM
Ron, I hope you're never convinced into changing the rules and making this site age restricted.

How is societies opinion of Cannabis ever going tochange if children aren't allowed access to information from both sides of the argument? If all they hear is anti-drug bullshit from school, then nothing will ever change. This site is educational as much as recreational.