Do we really want it legalized???

[Rad Plane]

alright...sorry if this is in the wrong forum...i was gonna put it in activism(sp?) but this is kinda...anti....

alright anyways do we really want to be legal in usa? As like most of you 5 minutes ago I would have said yes but than I thought about something. Wow makes money off marijuana now? Mostly peaceful hippies who grow there own plants.

Now if it was legalized the big tobacco companies I can ensure you will start selling all the marijuana. People who dont currently smoke marijuana will all buy it from a major tobacco company since they trust them more. Now weed will be cheaper and we will be able to grow it...but who is the one trurly profiting financial from this whole ordeal?

Were pretty much robbing the hippies in a strange sense.

Anyways...just a way you could view it. :hippy:

[GROWGUY420420]

if it was legal we could all grow it and there would be no need for the hippie or tabbaco company product..thats how i view it:rasta:

[dylan]

Big companies would undoubtably profit from mass produced MJ, but they would not be able to produce the same quality as small home town growers. There would still be profit to be made from high quality, organic, geade A MJ.

Also, people would be able to openly breed MJ, and produce better strains, as well as better preserve current strains. People could also research and develop new ways to grow and process MJ which would be better for everyone.

[Nochowderforyou]

Do you realize how much money the government makes off of tobacco each year? Billions, so you really think they are going to gi ve the right to the people to grow their own cannabis, making tobacco obsolete. :p Oh you have much to learn.

If they let us grow a certain amount of plants each, that I would enjoy, but I know they would package and tax the shit out of cannabis while quality being low.

[Gundari]

If they legalize it that takes alot of dealers off the streets, as well as the fact that they'd probably start pitching it as some miracle plant (like they did with tobbacco back in the 60's or whenever all that bs started), and i for one would like to see this plant put on a pedastl as opposed to the relentless demonizing of it thats found in our media today.

[burnable]

you're assuming that there is just one demographic that currently sells herb. I'm sure the black market retailers are just as diverse as any other legitimate market.

Legalization would benefit society to such a grand degree in terms of commercial hemp (paper, clothes, fuel, food, body products), that the few whose pockets would be effected would seem minor. If they were good at what they do, they'll continue to sell in a legal market. Legalization would increase quality, since there would be more competition and no one would tolerate shwaggy weed.

Look at amsterdam, they have dope legal shit, plus there are still guys on the street selling it.

I think all drugs should be legalized; all the ~$80 billion a year that goes out of the country to fund drug habits could be retained by the U.S. if there would legal drug merchants (a lot of that money funds terrorist groups).

To say that the nice guys making money from illegal herb now is a consideration to avoid legalization is kinda consistent with the special interests that washington considers in passing laws.

[MarijuanaIsMyName]

I don't care who makes the profit if it where legal.
whether the tobacco company is selling it or not marijuana would be free andlagal to smoke anywhere!!

[burnable]

Do you realize how much money the government makes off of tobacco each year? Billions, so you really think they are going to gi ve the right to the people to grow their own cannabis, making tobacco obsolete.

I don't know about that...I suppose there might be a drop in tobacco sales, but regular smokers wouldn't necessarily stop smoking tobacco just because mj was legally available. A lot of current mj users also smoke cigs. THe craving the body has for nicotine wouldn't be met by cannabinoids, and ppl will always have their preferences. I wish cannabis legalization would make alcohol obsolete, but I know that won't happen

[partcleguy]

I look at it this way. If it was legalized, even if they didn't legalize personal growing, the penalties for small grows would be greatly decreased. I would risk it even more if the only thing that would happen would be a fine...

[NextLineIsMine]

we should be aiming for decriminalization not legalization. That way we could grow and smoke our own without much to fear but maybe a fine while this could entirely prevent it becoming an industry though.

[beachguy in thongs]

Everyone should plant seeds everywhere.

That'd cost too much money for them to cut down every cannabis plant. We'll do to them what the Japanese did to America at Pearl Harbor. All of a sudden, one day, America will be under attack by cannabis trees.

[SyndicateJuggalos17]

but at least it would be seedless ;)

[GrinS]

worst idea ever, keep smoking and maybe u might get smart.

[ncnavguy]

I'm simple all I really want is to be able to smoke my medicine and not have to worry about loosing my freedom or job. Legalizing it would get rid of the "Secrecy" of smoking pot. Trust me if you smoke you want it legal nothing less, after all why should you be punished for doing something that is not wrong. And by the way, the majority of commercial pot does not come from peacefull hippies but from mexican cartels. And if you think no one has caught a bullet for mj in the current state of things you are dead wrong. Legalize Ja!@

[Markass]

you're wrong...tobacco companies produce tobacco, because it's addictive, more addictive than heroin...they don't want to sell marijuana..because people can willingly quit, and you could possibly lose money..peaceful hippies grow their own pot and smoke it, we're not taking anything from them by legalizing it, we're just ensuring that they wont go to jail for doing something that ultimately affects noone but themselves and themselves only. The drug cartels from mexico are the ones making the money off of marijuana, and it should be given to our economy rather than mexico..legalize it and sell it cheaper than it is on the street for a much higher quality of product, and you've eliminated the criminals.

[Spoken Word]

I was thinking about this the other day.
I can't see how the U.S. would be the first to "legalize" ANYTHING.
the U.S. wouldn't want to have tourists from all over the world come to smoke. shit, the U.S. wants most immigrants out. Legalizing would bring people from all over the world.
and as much as it hurts me to say, legalization seems so far-fetched. i have a feeling even the most liberal of politicians know "legalizing" weed could have SERIOUS affects on society.

now, i usually think about liquor being legal at this point.
but liquor is now accepted as a social trademark of sorts. you know, the bearded lager-gulper or the artsy bohemian whisky drinker or even the weekend warrior vodka downer.
these are all accepted types of people in society. maybe one finds a little too much pleasure in the bottle. but when that happends they are considered to be just "drinking too much". and that passes then they are seen as "normal" member of society.

weed-smokers have always been shunned. i couldn't see a parent say, "oh, josh. he's fine, he has just been smoking a little too much marijuana" as apposed to the now ULTRA-common "yea, he's been drinking too much".

i might just be really high right now but it makes sense to me. :thumbsup:


i think decriminalization is a more realistic policy.

[trynagethigh]

Ok here's the way I see it. The government needs to legalize it, the taxes collected by them off weed could pay off some serious debt, like the cost of this fuckin war, amongst others. Secondly, its not as bad as cigarettes but theyre taxing the hell out of them and they know their addictive and they'll kill ya..:thumbsup: And if you do legalize it and sell it, stick a label on it with the warnings like they do liquor and cigs, like DO NOT OPERATE MACHINERY AND SUCH..Be a responsible drug dealer Mr.President..LOL:thumbsup:Not to mention the crime rate would probably drop cause I know when Im blazed the last thing im tryna do is get up and go fuck up....:thumbsup:

[peble]

The only way it would be legal would be if the government could tax it, and you would probably need to get a permit to grow it, to keep from "lacing" would be my guess. I hit a blunt that was laced with PCP and i didnt know....was not good. Plus people would be able to trust the major corporations, I just hope they dont add all the chemicals like in cigs.

[Reefer Rogue]

I've never believed in anything more strongly and passionately in my life. Cannabis should be legalized. You're such a pessimist, seriously, the grand prospect of legalization and all you can think about are tobacco companies who will get some profits if they sell it. They're not robbing any hippies. This isn't about money, it's about FREEDOM and LIBERTY and OPPRESION

[Markass]

I've never believed in anything more strongly and passionately in my life. Cannabis should be legalized. You're such a pessimist, seriously, the grand prospect of legalization and all you can think about are tobacco companies who will get some profits if they sell it. They're not robbing any hippies. This isn't about money, it's about FREEDOM and LIBERTY and OPPRESION

nicely said...:stoned: :thumbsup:

[DaZeDShAdOw]

im not trying to be rude or anything but tobacco is in no way more addicting than heroin lmfao tell that to a heroin addict. That is another propoganda technique that people hear and they beleive.

[LIP]

In short, yes, we do want it legalised.

In long, Legalising, or at the very LEAST de criminalising means people smoking plant matter wont be arrested and taken to court. It means we can grow it ourselves. It means better quality herb, CHEAP CHEAP prices, and if the government knew what they were really doing they'd regulate it's sale and ruin the dealing business. This will mean dealers arnt on the streets, and they cant pass on business, give numbers out blah blah blah. Dealers know other dealers of other drugs. Buying off a dealer is bad, because you have that temptation. Take them out, the temptation is gone. As long as the government sold GOOD quality weed, most people would be happy. Those who know how to grow, will live the life of kings. Those who need it for medicinal reasons can have as much of it as they like, WHEN they like. Drug dealing in whole will deminish, and eventually if ALL drugs were legalised and regulated, drug dealing and drug related crime [most of the crime] will be a thing of the past. Druggies could go out, buy [for much cheaper] they're drugs, shoot up and lay in a road somewhere waiting for the end. Bascially, if smack and crack were legal and cheap, they wouldnt need to rob people, and THAT takes out so much crime is horrific that they havnt already done it.

In my opinion, legalisation is THE ONLY way forward, "and anyone who does not agree with me is mentally sick and needs to be shot, im afraid to say." << Anyone know this quote? Theres alot of gamers on here so someone must!

Anyway, there you have it. Bet you wish you'd just read the short answer now eh?

[LIP]

im not trying to be rude or anything but tobacco is in no way more addicting than heroin lmfao tell that to a heroin addict. That is another propoganda technique that people hear and they beleive.

You'll find Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances, more so than cocaine and heroin. [i didnt beleive it, but accoding to ALOT of people its true, and by people i mean scientists AND doctors]

[Agressor1]

I don't understand the pessimism behind legalizing marijuana, since, you know, "illegal" is the word with a negative connotation. The worse that could happen is nothing worse than what we already have. I'd rather take the risk of legalizing it, faced with the fact that it might ACTUALLY be a GOOD thing. And if not, oh well, we just continue what we were doing before it was legal. duh.