why clone only?

[buttyrekka]

can someone explain to me why some strains are clone only?.i'm presuming a mother is cloned to such an extent that the males are lost due to time and noone wanting them but a mother can still produce feminized seeds whe hermed,so why are some strains clone only?tx

[stinkyattic]

The origin of a clone-only strain is by definition shrouded in a bit of mystery. Either the male or both parents is unknown, or it's a REALLY odd phenotype, that simply can't be replicated.

[Zcomp]

Right, like some bagseed that turned out really good.

[the image reaper]

the 'feminized' approach wasn't even considered, years ago, because that type of 'in-breeding' isn't a good thing, genetically ... any hog farmer can explain why inbreeding is bad (OK, so it's a weird example :jointsmile:) ... but, today, everything is about 'now', (I want it all, and want it 'now') ... so, for sake of convenience, some growers (cashgrowers, particularly) are more concerned about a fast crop, without waiting for sexing ... be assured, seeds aren't produced by the hermie-method to improve the strain :D

[yokinazu]

because the genetics cannot be brought to seed. a good example is apples. all apples such as red delicious are clones. if you take the seeds from any apple you will not grow that kind of apple you ill end up with crab apples most likly. the reason is because of the number of apples that were crossed to get a specific kind of apple that you have no idea what gentics will be passed to the seed. this is even true if you polinate the same species of apples together. all apples trees are clones for this reason. and now that there has been so much cross breeding in differrant strains of cannabis the same is happening. its hard to understand but when you cross breed 200 differant types of any plant to make a new strain, the ganetics are so unstable that the plant cannot replicate itself even if there is a male and a female bred together.

[buttyrekka]

ahhhh s'all to do with quality;-).i was thinkin it was some tight hippy wantin to keep the best for themselves!.

[buttyrekka]

that reminds me after growin a set of blueberrys one was REALLY GOOD,my intention was to harvest then veg,then clone and herm the poor girl to get some seeds.so y'all saying that its highly unlikely the seeds will produce a plant of the same quality?

[buttyrekka]

is their a good time to clone?i.e before or after first harvest?does it make any difference?same plant after all

[stinkyattic]

reveg your best female- this could take up to 2 months- little to no food, good blue flourescent light, a bit of superthrive, DON'T overwater- and take clones when you see enough fresh growth to take some off without harming the plant, in case the clones don't 'take'.

[buttyrekka]

oh goddes of ganja!.i fancy some seeds,is it best to let my best girl be violated by a male and just grow the resulting seeds and get rid of males,or try and herm my best lady after first harvest and get feminized seeds,i'm growin in a loft so i cant have more than 9 plants at a time(i'm on 4 bLueberry 5 northern lights at the mo).growin just to see unkown is'nt an option thats why i wanted fem seeds in case of emergencys.you think its a good idea (my NL are un sexed)to let them all get jiggey and see what the seeds are like if my lady get polinated?.tx

[buttyrekka]

i guess it would be blueberryxN/Lbuttyrekka not a very catchy name,buttybluelight!! thats the one!

[buttyrekka]

sorry stinkey,on another thread you were goin on about pure power plant is that the one from nirvanna seeds?

[buttyrekka]

just to clear things up,the reason i asked about clone only was i had this major train wreck(probably the strongest weed i've ever smoked felt like i'd been hit with a mallet)and this was clone only so i'm thinkin all the best weed is clone only(that manatuska thunderfuck sounded outstanding)its funny i thought that mj originated in the middle east so i'd presume the best(purest?)(strongest?) strains would have come from there(i.e hindu kush,afghan kush etc)i guess in manatuska all the ingrieidents were there for super pot!!!!!!

[buttyrekka]

hi y'all i'm sitting here listeninig to my ipod last 3 tracks are penny lane ,elaneor rigby and fur elise,it hurts me to say but are the beatles the best band ever?(not counting ludwig van)(i'm from manchester we dont get on with scousers!)

[buttyrekka]

btw whats everyones favoritee beatles track(day tripper for me)