View Full Version : 1ST GROW.........Northern lights/ thai stick
bluntmaster430
10-14-2007, 11:29 PM
hows it going....been reading for months, probably more than my school work.
recently began my first grow, using Northern Lights and Thai Stick seeds in a 12x13 foot room. Germinated for 24 hrs in water and planted in Fox Farm Ocean Mix potting soil. my setup is as follows:
-1000 W Hortilux Super HPS grow lamp
-Sun Systems Super Sun 2, 6" air cooled reflector
-planted in large plastic pots approx 2 gallon pots
-using bottled natural spring water with ph adjusted to 6.7 to 6.9 using Advanced Nutrients phUP and phDOWN adjusters.
-fox farm grow big 6-4-4 nutrients (not using yet)
-using a light, ph, and moisture guage (not digital)
We planted the babies at seperate times due to length of germination, about 2 weeks ago. Currently giving each plant 30mL of water twice per day, using a spray bottle. Here is the rundown on each plant:
Plant 1 is at 14 days. (not pictured)
Plant 2 is at 14 days, and our strongest looking plant.
Plant 3 is at 8 days.
Plant 4 is at 10 days. (Thai stick)
Plant 5 is at 8 days.
As you can see, things are looking pretty good (at least i think so!) The only thing that we can see happening is that 2 of the plants, plants 1 and 4, seem to be turning yellowish.This just started 2 days ago.
We think that it was because we were using tap water, and we have a salt-using water softner. We have since switched to natural bottled spring water.
We are using a 18/6 lighting cycle. Light is on from 4pm to 10am. Light is off from 10am to 4pm.
The temperature in the room averages 30degrees Celsius when the light is on, and 26.5 degrees Celsius when the light is off.
We are planning to start adding nutrients around day 25 for each plant. anyone have advice for nutrients? when/where/how much etc? we were thinking starting at 1/4th the recommended parts per gallon.
Anyway, if anyone that is experienced, especially with northern lights, has ANY comments, recommendations, or helpful advice it would be GREATLY appreciated.
Also- I do not have50 posts yet but will post photos as soon as I can.
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my post is completely B.S and i plagerized eveything you have read........
bluntmaster430
10-15-2007, 08:35 PM
Also, light is hung about 4 feet above soil level.
bluntmaster430
10-16-2007, 08:49 PM
some photos.....
bluntmaster430
10-18-2007, 03:42 AM
news pics.......I am watering less frequently. Leaves have seemed to raised, and are no longer looking over watered.
hope people start posting.....I am new to this haha.
thanks
V.A.
bluntmaster430
10-21-2007, 10:33 PM
hover your mouse over the pic and look at the end of the name to see how old it is.
we are getting some yellowing as you may notice, and we think its magnesium and/or nitrogen deficiency. any hints?
we also have some of the leaves of the biggest 2 curling up.
i really hope some people post...:wtf:
CannabisCarl2134
10-21-2007, 10:48 PM
Looks great!! I just bought some NL seeds last night, about to start my 1st as well. Here is the Best "Sick Plant Guide" I found and I still read it. Revised: The Complete Guide To Sick Plants,pH and Pest Troubles - PlanetGanja.com (http://www.planetganja.com/highsociety/showthread.php?t=8778)
bluntmaster430
10-22-2007, 12:07 AM
Thanks man i'll check it out. if you do a log i'll check in on it. thanks for posting, good to see someone 's reading!
what are you planning for setup? hydo soil? light? ect.
good luck
scagster
10-22-2007, 12:38 AM
How tall is your room? From my knowledge, Thai is pretty much straight sativa and gets massive, might be something to check out. Sounds gnarly though.
bluntmaster430
10-22-2007, 03:07 AM
well it's deff. the tallest already haha. but to answer your question 10ft minus the light and hanging hardware. so about 8.5ft ish. sound ok? might need to pruning advice then? i didnt know much about thai they came with my NL seeds.
bluntmaster430
11-15-2007, 04:43 PM
UPDATE........Of all my plants only 3 are alive today. The biggest Thai and 2 smaller NL's all died slowly by turning yellow. funny because no plant was treated any differently than any other.
Now i have 3 plants 2 NL's that are 45 days old. they are 9.5in and 7in tall.
and one little plant that is about 4 inches tall and about 35 days old. ( it didn't grow at all for the longest time).
both larger plants have shown tiny sac like things with longer thin white hairs coming out of the top. hopefully i have 2 females here.
my plan is to grow these plants for about 10 more days before i take 5 cuttlings off of each for cloning in a separate room. Over the next 3 weeks as the cuttlings are developing roots i was planning on keeping the 2 mothers in vegatative state until large enough to get a decent amount of bud and to be sure the cuttlings survive. at which point i hope to flower the 2 mothers and then shorty after 8 of my clones keeeping 2 as mothers.............
what do you think......i know its been a awhile since i posted but nothing really goin on just trying let them be as much as possible. PICTURES will be posted as soon as the lights come on.
by the way plant 1(the tallest) is now to be called Abbey and plant 2 Hannah.......To be continued
specs
11-15-2007, 05:05 PM
hows it going....been reading for months, probably more than my school work.
recently began my first grow, using Northern Lights and Thai Stick seeds in a 12x13 foot room. Germinated for 24 hrs in water and planted in Fox Farm Ocean Mix potting soil. my setup is as follows:
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Hey Bluntmaster,
I would suggest getting a fan on the babies to thinken the stalk, so that they can hold the weight of the HUGE buds you will get.
Next is there anyway you can create a room or cab for this grow-to maximize the efficiency of your light? (not necessarily a big issue with 1000w you'll still be impressed).
Keep up the good work,
Bless
Specs:rastasmoke:
IMed215
11-15-2007, 05:14 PM
I always keep my PH around 5.7-6.0 cannabis loves slightly acidic soils, chech the soil ph by placing some soil and your irrigation water in a small cup and letting it leach for 24 hours and then test it and adjust accordingly. I prefer a NFT bench myself(nutrient film) but soil is always good. Keep the light as close as possible without burning you lose lumens for every 1'' of distance. 3000-6000 lumens per plant is very effective. Are you ready to start the flower phase yet ?
IMed215
11-15-2007, 05:25 PM
Additionally your plants may be yellowing from the ph being off and tying up certain nutrients, particularly zinc , magnesium and manganese. Did you try a foliar feed at 200-300 PPm 6.0 ph ?
bluntmaster430
11-16-2007, 03:28 AM
Specs- Actually im about to move this light into a closet that is 6ftx3.5ft so that will probably help with the efficiency. Also i have had 2 fans on the for the entire time to help with heat since i cant afford a fan for my light. So i think my stalks might be pretty nice but im not sure. I will post pics of them soon for sure. THANKS for the advice.
Imed- not exactly sure what your talking about. this is my first grow, so some things i get confused when talking about. i would say my soil was slightly alk. at first but now has gone to about an average of 6.4. also i dont really know much about foliar feeding. how should i go about that?
bluntmaster430
11-16-2007, 04:11 AM
this photo is about 6 days old. batteries died on the camera. will have recent pics up tomorrow for sure. stems and all included. also i cant seem to get the camera to focus so you can see the white hairs hmmm maybe i need a better camera
bluntmaster430
11-19-2007, 01:15 AM
OK so heres some pictures. STILL not with a better camera though. oh well. Below are photos of all three plants. both leaves and stem. Also below is a photo of the newly constructed clone room.
Details:
Abbey 48 days old...female pre-flowers
Hannah 48 days old female pre-flowers
both show some slight burn and/or yellowing of some sort and hannah is pretty stunted i believe.
the third plant has yet to show any sexing so of course has no name and is about 4 inches tall. and 35 days old (haha) didnt grow at all for 2.5 weeks but has recently sped up.
The new flowering closet is 4ft by6ft and 9feet tall.
The new cloning closet is ft wide and 3 feet deep with about 5 feet of free space above the light.
The lights in the cloning room are as follows:
2 48in fluorescent day light 40watt tubes. each producing 3050 lumens and has a 6500k color temp
2 26 watt daylight CFL's. each producing 1600 lumens and a color temp of 6500K
1 26 watt soft white CFL. it produces 1600 lumens and has a color temp of 3000k.
everyone let me know what you think......as stated this is my first grow and it's been a blast so far haha
blunt time.....
VA
waiting on the world to change.......
bluntmaster430
11-19-2007, 01:17 AM
more pictures.....
bluntmaster430
11-21-2007, 04:54 PM
DAY 51........ I cut 5 clones from Abbey on monday and placed the in rockwool cubes in a propagation tray w/ dome. I am misting the dome a little 2x a day ad proping the lid for air circulation occasionally.
I plan on taking 5 more cuttlings from hannah in a few more days, when se gts some branches that are optimal for cloning. The 5 clones seem slightly droopy, but i am keeping a close watch right now.
As for Abbey i cut the bottom off of her original pot, and place it inside another full 2 gallon pot. i didnt want to do a full transplant on this plant because i still may have to take a couple clones again, and i didnt want to create a mess. i plan on doing the same to Hannah in a week.
hopefully my clones make it, i think i may start flowering in 10-14days
bluntmaster430
12-10-2007, 07:24 PM
UPDATE.... i now have 5 seedlings and 2 clones in the cloning rooms the tallest is about 7 inches and the shortest are about 4inches.
Of my two older plants one looks pretty good and the other needs a flush. They went into flowering last night and will start flowering nuts. wed. ish. the tallest is 18in tall and the shorter wider plant is 16 inches tall. things are going well, but there have been some hiccups. any ways anymore information need just ask, i have lots of time and dont post as much because most of my problems are related to ph and my meter blows! next time im getting a nice tds/ph/ppm meter. pics tonight when the lights come on......i hate having to wait 12 hours to see them, but the cflowering closet is basicly 100% pitch black and i dont want to disturb that at all!
bluntmaster430
12-12-2007, 06:04 PM
sorry about the delay but the website was down last night.
bluntmaster430
12-12-2007, 06:07 PM
Some more photos.....
bluntmaster430
02-01-2008, 04:24 AM
SO mysteriously all my large plants get sick it seems from salt build up and high Ph....nutrient lockout....even flushing didnt fix them.....but 1 plant did survive. and honestly i treated all plants relatively the same...that is up untill they got sick. so who knows. i well plug on and keep trying...more babies are growing with more seeds on the way.
good news for the one survivor. its in the 9th week of flowering and is looking alright i guess. its about 26 inches tall.
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