Nirvana Seeds vs. Originals?

[herbie the love bud]

Hi-

It took me a bit to figure out why Nirvana seeds are so cheap compared to everyone else, then I realized that it is "their version" and not the original seeds from the seedbank who developed it. White Widow from Nirvana vs. White Widow from Dutch Passion for instance.

Does this make a difference? Is there a reason I should choose one over another?

Thanks

[stinkyattic]

Nirvana pros:
Cheap, lol.
Mostly pretty solid stuff.
You will probably be able to find a nice mother in your 10-pack.

Nirvana cons:
Not the originals
Often F2 or even F3 generation stuff- there's going to be variation

It's up to you. Personally, the stuff I've bought from Nirvana has been lines that are already relatively stable- classics like Skunk 1 and NL- so it doesn't bother me. IF I were going to get some newer fancy strain, I'd check elsewhere as well and then weigh costs. I've been satisfied with Nirvana with the sole exception of their white rhino, which hermed on me while everything else in the garden was fine.

[herbie the love bud]

Stinky-

Thanks, I was hoping you would chime in. Since I am so new to this I don't understand the F1 (F2/3, etc.) vs. hybrid(?) or whatever the non-F designator is. Can you clue me in?

Thanks.

[ismokealldaylong420]

i have a question are nirvanas mango seeds anygood or do you know another place that has them for cheap

[stinkyattic]

Huh, the Nirvana Mango knockoff is Papaya and yes, it is one of their better strains.

F= filial generation of a hybrid.
F1 is the first hybrid generation
F2 and beyond are interbreedings of the previous filial generation.

[ismokealldaylong420]

ok thank you very much:thumbsup:

ok one final question should i order mandalas hashberry or nirvanas papaya beans and which one ships the most discretely i live in oklahoma i have a very painfull disorder and if i get cought and put in jail i will most likely die in jail hat will they do if they get seeds in the mail will cops come to my house or evan whatch my house thank you for your help

[ProGroWannabe]

From what I've read here and elsewhere, you get a nice little letter in the mail that states " a package containing contraband was confiscated...if you choose to pursue the issue...blah blah blah". Supposedly, thats all that happens over seeds here in the US.

But don't take MY word for it. Make up your own mind.

[herbie the love bud]

F= filial generation of a hybrid.
F1 is the first hybrid generation
F2 and beyond are interbreedings of the previous filial generation.

So in the scheme of things, would a Dutch Passion WW be an F and a Nirvana WW be an Fx? And what would that mean about the plant?

BTW Stinky, I love that title "CultiModerVatorAtor." When I read it high I keep hearing the nice voice, "what vibrator? Who ate her?"

Thanks

[stinkyattic]

I'm not sure if WW is an F1 hybrid already, or a stabilized line, so I can't answer that question.

lol @ vibrator... maybe I need to change my title... :wtf:

[ezygzy]

From what I've read here and elsewhere, you get a nice little letter in the mail that states " a package containing contraband was confiscated...if you choose to pursue the issue...blah blah blah". Supposedly, thats all that happens over seeds here in the US.

But don't take MY word for it. Make up your own mind.

I myself recently recieved 3 orders out of 4 total from Nirvana with only 1 confiscation. One day I received 2 packages, one was fine the other had tape and a removal letter inside with no seeds (sucks it was my 2nd order of White Rhino).

Port of Chicago is tough to get stuff thru supposedly(the one that got mine.) but this goes for ALL seed vendors. I'm pretty sure the govt. workers know what kind of packaging they all use. Its just luck of the draw whether or not yours makes it.

Also, my Nirvana strains are relatively very uniform 1-2 weeks into veg. I can clearly tell which are Northern Lights, which are White Rhino and which are Hindu Kush. NL and HK are IBLs(Inbred lines) so they are supposed to be very much uniform. White Rhino is a F1 (supposedly) and i believe it so far. The biggest is 2 days younger than my oldest NL and its blowing it away so far.

I have heard the Rhino grows slow, but in my case its got that vigor. F1's usually have this trait. The fresh genetic mix of an F1 makes the plant grow faster than Inbred lines like HK and NL.

Overall don't count Nirvana out just cause they're cheaper than other suppliers. My plants are doing really well and I'm more than happy with them, especially for the price.

[ismokealldaylong420]

im going to order from mandala seeds im ordering two seperate orders so if one gets confiscated i will still have the other one im getting hashberry and white satin mandala is cheap and ive heard good reviews from them it sounds to me like if my seeds get taken from us customs they will send me more for free i could be wrong but thats what it says i think im pretty high though so i dunno i placed one order for hashberry im sending cash so when they tell me that they recieved the money im going to make another order for the white satin ill hold off on growing for three weeks after the seeds get here ill watch see if anyone is watching my house ect ect im pretty parinoid and i dont want to go to jail for growing my medicine