Has cann.com gotten better or worse?

[weedmaster]

I use to feel the love running through this site, but don't feel it anymore, i don't know if it's because alot of good peeps have left:(
wheres the buzz gone from this site? maybe it's just me i am feeling pissed of today. LOVE TO YOU ALL. WM.

[Satan666]

Its Not just you. The good ones left the minute the love stopped. This place has gone downhill as well. Its still essentially the same site just with less love.

Ron... Come Home ;)

[killerweed420]

It was fine till you showed up now I feel the antichrist's negative vibe creeping in.lol

[mamma puffpuff420]

dont let that neg shit get 2 ya
cann com just keep's getting better and better
people come and go
but not 2 worry
there is still lot's of love here

[Satan666]

See, no love.
EDIT:Less Love

[psteve]

It's better now.
And all those youngsters will eventually grow up and the family will be whole again.
Older and wiser.

[mamma puffpuff420]

do u think ur negative avy could have anything 2 do with u not cing any of the love
may God b with u

[Satan666]

Im just saying theres a reason everyone left. The Avatar could have something to do with it. I was actually talking about the love for the site itself. It (the site) is just not as well maintained as it used to be.

[Blitzed]

I looooooove evvvvurrrryonnnneee, WM, cheer up mate! :jointsmile:


Although the site does seem better than since I started, less dumb posts, but then again, those were always fun to read

[GHoSToKeR]

I dunno.. Alot of people talk about the love disappearing from Cann.com, but I think it's just a case of people moving on. I mean, I hardly feel like I know anyone here anymore and so I could be all like "dude, this place has changed" but it's just because the people I'm familiar with have moved on, as have I... There are still awesome people posting here, you just have to get to know them. :)

[Satan666]

There are awesome people. I cant believe Your still alive.

[PHATTY LUMPKINS]

Weedmaster, Maybee this will cheer you up Bro. This one was about 23 LBS. Fun to reel in but im not a big carp fan. Anyways hope you get in better spirits. Peace Bro. "Phatty":thumbsup:

[happiestmferoutthere]

There are still awesome people posting here, you just have to get to know them. :)

Exactly! I'm pretty new, I'm usually fairly quiet(shy), but I've got lots of love. For everyone!!
:giveflower:

[Veratyr Star]

How long have these forums been up?

[Narf!]

I like cannadotcom because the conversation is good.

[cannabis campbell]

It is what you make of it and like ghostoker said yes a lot of the veterans if not all of them have left, LIP hardly posts anymore orangeman doresnt really post around these sections 3 sheets, bong30, friendowl doesnt post as much and of course sensiride I would love to get in contact with her again but she hasnt been online on msn for like 1 year lol, oh well.

[make it legal]

Yeah i know what you mean, weedmaster. I don't post here as much as I used to but I still like it here. Ghost also had a good point.

[420MissHighTimes420]

i used to read the posts way b4 i joined the site, and i do miss when people could talk about a lot more things, you were more free to say what you wanted, and i kno and understand its a cannbis website, but it was cool when you could ask questions abuot other substances.
but i love it here, i feel the love, everyone on here seems really nice :hippy:

plus i love all the these guys:wave1:

[the joint meister]

well i came to this site for a couple years before i actualy signed up for a acount (becuase i like to listen more then speak) and this site has definately gone down hill, you can't talk about anything else but weed which im cool with i love weed its my fave mindaltering substance,, but i would like to be able to talk about lsd and shrooms to because most people who smoke weed are cool with acid and shrooms, im not cool with crack or heroin talk or shit like that that can kill you,

i deffinately dont feel the love as much as i did even a year ago, theres just so many new teenage members who smoke weed to be cool and dont give two shits about the beautiful plant cannabis,

but o well no point in bitching about shit ya cant change i always say, the only thing i can do is say APSPREAD THE LOVE!! AND I LOVE YOU GUYS


peace out TjM

[Dutch Pimp]

.."the love you receive...is equal to the love you make"-Beatles

[the image reaper]

if you folks are looking for 'Love' on the Internet, I think you need to get out of the house more ... get a life ... as for 'Hate', I ain't got any of that, ... disagreeing with someone, or disdaining their lifestyle choices, is NOT a form of 'Hate', in my way of looking at things ... 'don't worry, be happy' ... :D

[Reefer Rogue]

Hmm, it's funny people talking about leaving, i've seen many come and go, since 2004, back when it pretty much all began. Things have changed quite a bit, i think it used to be a lot more chill back then, a lot less modding and people could pretty much do whatever they wanted. With this 18 rule in, which i don't remember getting to vote for, a lot of people are missing out on this great site because of a rule which quite frankly is arbitrary. There's more stuff here now, though, like the rep system and arcade and more smilies. I'm not going anywhere i know that, this is still my fav site on the net, however, like i said things have changed. Wether it's good or bad depends on your perception and your beliefs on what actually is good or bad. I still feel the love.

[Storm Crow]

Yes, some familiar faces have dropped out for a while, but they'll be back! This place is addicting!

The kids will lie :( and sneak back in- they should have never been banned in the first place! C.c was a haven for them. Now they are FORCED to lie to remain with the C.c family! To quote the prohibs "What kind of message does this send?" I would rather have them be honest and able to say "I'm 14 and don't know what to do!"

Anyway, kids, Granny will be here for a long time, lovin' you all! - Granny:hippy:

[Bluntmasterbabe]

Well, I've only been a member for a little over a month now, so I don't know how it use to be. But one of the reasons I chose to join this site is because almost everyone here is so nice. It does seem like it's slowed down a good bit since the new rule change, but there are still alot of cool people here, with alot to offer.

I love cannacom;)

[the image reaper]

Yes, some familiar faces have dropped out for a while, but they'll be back! This place is addicting!

The kids will lie :( and sneak back in- they should have never been banned in the first place! C.c was a haven for them. Now they are FORCED to lie to remain with the C.c family! To quote the prohibs "What kind of message does this send?" I would rather have them be honest and able to say "I'm 14 and don't know what to do!"

Anyway, kids, Granny will be here for a long time, lovin' you all! - Granny:hippy:

Granny, I have to say this: I have had a longtime 'problem' with you ... you need to show some 'Adult Responsibility' ... you spend most of your time in these forums 'helping' children with their marijuana growing and use ... as a medical marijuana proponent, you should be ashamed of yourself ... what you do, borders on child abuse ... I don't expect you to agree with me, but I need to get this off my chest, regardless ... grow up :smokin:

[twoguysupnorth]

this site is still one of the best, but things change. it was like one day there were a whole lot of different people. thats to be expected though, because it happens everywhere. this is by far the most active of the other places i have been looking so i tend to enjoy it more.

[invoke]

Granny, I have to say this: I have had a longtime 'problem' with you ... you need to show some 'Adult Responsibility' ... you spend most of your time in these forums 'helping' children with their marijuana growing and use ... as a medical marijuana proponent, you should be ashamed of yourself ... what you do, borders on child abuse ... I don't expect you to agree with me, but I need to get this off my chest, regardless ... grow up :smokin:

Umm.. Ok, no idea what the hell that was for, Granny is one of the most knowledgeable people on this site, and she's done a lot to help others. There's no need to be hostile towards someone who has done nothing but help other people. And I'm glad you know every aspect of her life and what she does with her time man.

I joined this site like, a year and a half ago I think? I don't post much but I remember when I first started coming around I used to like it a lot better when more of the vets were posting but now there's a lottt of the same shit being asked all the time and pretty much, well really widely available information that people are too lazy to look up.

I swear if I see one more "How do I make a grav bong" thread I will kill somebody. ;)

[Reefer Rogue]

Granny, I have to say this: I have had a longtime 'problem' with you ... you need to show some 'Adult Responsibility' ... you spend most of your time in these forums 'helping' children with their marijuana growing and use ... as a medical marijuana proponent, you should be ashamed of yourself ... what you do, borders on child abuse ... I don't expect you to agree with me, but I need to get this off my chest, regardless ... grow up :smokin:

Comparing Granny's help and knowledge, which contributes greatly to this site, to 'bordering on child abuse' is absolutely uncalled for and completely farcical in my opinion. I think you need to grow up. Having said that, Granny can undoubtedly defend herself but i felt the need to add my opinion. Let's not let this turn in flames, unless ofcourse they are intended for burning cannabis. Vaping for Granny tho ;)

[DreadConches]

I really miss the main page.
I'm not gonna say it has gotten worse, I just don't like the site as much. It used to be more like the Wild West. Now people are trying to regulate out the ass. For better or worse though, it has definitely changed.
And yeah I know what you mean by "love". I just feel like there are less good vibes here.
Image Reaper, leave Storm Crow alone. She is totally awesome. I MISS DAIMA.

[Dr HaZzMatT Esq.]

maybe it's all the lame posts! the stupid threads started by underage kids and the non sence
It gets real old after a while
piff' piff'
time to move on...

[420MissHighTimes420]

damn how can someone coem at granny? :hippy:

[silkyblue]

I like this site its way kewl but your
"wookin por nub in al da wong pwaces!!"

image reaper your rude dude! perfect smurfect:?""

I'll 'take up' for Storm Crow [I think were about the same age :thumbsup:]

sc gave me some very good web sites for my little brother Greg that has cancer smancer(( thank you Storm Crow))

IF YA DONT LIKE THE HEAT IMAGE REAPER GET OFF THE POT! :wtf:

[FakeBoobsRule]

With this 18 rule in, which i don't remember getting to vote for, a lot of people are missing out on this great site because of a rule which quite frankly is arbitrary.
Why do you think that we get to vote on things around here? It is a privately owned website and the owner doesn't charge people to be members. It is his sandlot so it is his rules.

For those that would like to talk about other drugs, I have been a member for over a year now and when I started, talk of other illegal drugs was not permitted. Then recently talk of all substances not cannabis, whether legal or not, was banned. There are a few exceptions to this rule in the medical forums but it sounds like people are imagining talk of other things that was never permitted or at least not in the last year. I am a member of another cannabis forum and I can tell you that several marijuana forums were shut down by the government and a lot of these allowed talk of other drugs. You might not like it but one reason for this rule has to be it's protecting the website from getting shut down. So do you want the website to be shut down by the government so you have no where to talk about cannabis or be happy that we have what we got?

[DreadConches]

Yeah, it was like a year and two months ago that they took away the other psychotropics board. I am not saying I agree or disagree, though I do understand the motive.

[LazySmoking420]

I think Cannabis has improved.

[Storm Crow]

I get to have mine. The kids are going to use if they want to, whether I say one word to them or not. What IS child abuse is the way uninformed parents sending kids to rehab or jail for experimentation with a relatively harmless herb!

I encourage kids not to grow at home, not to deal, and to educate their parents about the medical uses of cannabis and the fact that it is not the government's "Weed From Hell!". I try to keep them out of trouble and help them out of it when things get bad. One of my favorite URL posts to the kids (when they were "legally" here) stresses that moderation is essential in the young adult user. I've told people (age unknown) to quit or at least take a break. I post study tips and try to give good advice based on experience. I try to speak the truth to all, no matter what age they are.

So dude, if you got a problem with that, sorry, but I don't!

Granny

[psteve]

^^^What she said!^^^
Go Granny Go!

[Reefer Rogue]

I don't think we get to vote, i think we should've been able to, regardless of private ownership. I don't know if charging people for cafe memberships were this owners idea or not. This should be the people's forum just as much as the CEO or whoever. Democracy is stressed every day in our lives yet we have no chance to use it for such a drastic rule change that more then one person disagrees with. There is no age limit for cannabis, since it's illegal, therefore, in my opinion the age restriction seems moot. People will lie anyway. I abide by the owners rules, otherwise i'd be banned, however i can freely express my opinion if i feel so.

I don't care so much about talking about other drugs, this is cannabis.com, i prefer to talk about cannabis. Do i think it was better when we could freely talk about other drugs aswell as cannabis? Yes. Have certain freedoms been tamed on this site since i first joined? Yes. I know other sites have been shut down, OG, probably being the most well known, not that i was a member of it but i remember hearing about it. I think we all want this site to remain for a long as possible. It was around without these new rules and wasn't closed is my point. I already said i'm happy with what we've got, could it be improved? Perhaps. What can't. If it were to be closed i could still talk about cannabis with friends, just in person rather then the net. If the 18 rule had been here 3 years ago i wouldn't be here rite now. I compare these young kids with who i was at that time and i know i wouldn't want to be banned for no reason but age. Is that not ageist? I don't support the rule, however i abide by it as i abide by the others.



Why do you think that we get to vote on things around here? It is a privately owned website and the owner doesn't charge people to be members. It is his sandlot so it is his rules.

For those that would like to talk about other drugs, I have been a member for over a year now and when I started, talk of other illegal drugs was not permitted. Then recently talk of all substances not cannabis, whether legal or not, was banned. There are a few exceptions to this rule in the medical forums but it sounds like people are imagining talk of other things that was never permitted or at least not in the last year. I am a member of another cannabis forum and I can tell you that several marijuana forums were shut down by the government and a lot of these allowed talk of other drugs. You might not like it but one reason for this rule has to be it's protecting the website from getting shut down. So do you want the website to be shut down by the government so you have no where to talk about cannabis or be happy that we have what we got?

[LazySmoking420]

I found if a young adult uses agaisnt the advice of american culture than most likely the individual has a little bit of a rebellious nature and most likely will have to learn the hard way.

You can say how harmless this plant is until your blue in the face in a jail cell though.

[Reefer Rogue]

Those are the laws against the plant, not the effects of the plant itself...

[suhl]

worse

[smokedoja]

I havent been a member for that long, but i am a member at two other forums....and those are way better, the people here are not growers, just kids asking stupid questions. (must say that the few growers in here know their shit)

so why am i still here you ask?.......purely for amusement

[Weedhound]

I think the site is better......MUCH better. The amount of misinformation running through is much MUCH less. It's SOOO nice not to read ridiculous threads about peeing on your plants or how you added espresso and they grew great etc etc...getting your gerbil high, how you managed to be so cool as to run from the cops in the woods and your parents didn't find out....and on and on.

While I did enjoy the younger crowd as a rule.....there is one thing about them that was very frustrating to me. They believe just about anything anyone tells them. That made it EXTREMELY hard to pass on good info....they really did not know the difference between good info and bad info and spread both with equal abandon. imo, that kept the site in a vaccum and it could not change or improve.

I LOVE the new cdot. :yippee:

[smokedoja]

^^^weedhound^^^
just as i was mentioning growers who know their shit!!
you must've heard me...lol:D

[Reefer Rogue]

Lol how dare you compare this great site with the Bush regime. Clinton administration i'm kool with, there's loads of weed smoking fornicators out there.

[cannabis campbell]

Yeah but you still havent said weather you think its worse or better billion :).

[slipknotpsycho]

personally i'm keeping my lips sealed on this.

this is his site, and ultimately everything is his decision... all i can say is, if you don't like it you might as well leave. i imagine trying to get sundance to change his mind on something would be like convincing god to go buddhist... lol...

i guess i'm one of the few who see where he wants to take the site, and like it or not, he will. i don't always agree with the changes, but i accept them and move on. i don't really understand why everyone else has such a problem with that.

just remember, it's outta your hands, when something changes all you can really do about it is accept it and move on, or don't accept it and leave (either by free will or eventual ban if you keep bringing the subject up)

and no i don't think your opinion should be silenced, but most here don't want to state their opinion on changes, they want to argue/debate the changes.... stating your opinion would be saying it just once, just so it's known and moving past it... what nearly everyone does here when a change happens they don't like is continually complain about it and beat the dead horse, until mods/sundance is just tired of hearing it and then they get banned. (or they flip out, cuss out mods and such, and just general hell raise and get a ban)

[Matt the Funk]

Meh... guess it's kind of like the difference between the Clinton Administration and the Bush Regime.Lol....this site isn't the greatest. But it's my home. It's gotten better with the 18+ rule, but sometimes its still not so great. It's more about weed culture, than cannabis itself.

[Psycho4Bud]

Here's my thoughts on the subject.............:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRJtcml7wdg&search=Extreme%20get%20the%20funk%20out

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[birdgirl73]

OK, my thoughts on this are as follows. First, it's a heck of a lot easier for people to complain than to actually make constructive contributions. Weedmaster, if you're unhappy with the level of "love running through" here, then you have a couple of choices. You can complain about it and post that publicly. Or you yourself can demonstrate some love and support and turn the trend. You chose the former. We have heard a number of complaints recently, and that's not surprising as people are rarely as comfortable with change are they are the status quo. The boards are in a period of growth right now, which always upsets the folks who're not feeling up to the challenge of growing along with those changes. For those of you who're really not up to that challenge--or those of you who're under the impression that a privately owned Web forum is a democracy--well, you know where the door is. Sorry to be blunt, but no one's forcing you to stay here.

I also want to set the record straight on two other matters. First, Invoke, Image Reaper wasn't hostile to Granny Storm Crow. He was simply candid with his thoughts. There's a big difference. He'd have been hostile if he'd called names or crossed over the lines of verbal aggression. Both Image Reaper and Storm Crow are valued, respect members here, and I admire the way they both voiced their opinions strongly and with civility. I appreciate that, both as an adult and as a mod.

On the matter of improving the maturity of the boards, I have to say that while I miss some of our younger members very much, including many who had maturity surpassing their chronological years, I do think that eliminating the "How do I hide my grow from my parents?" and "What do your farts smell like?" type threads has upped the ante around here. If we're ever going to make any progress on advancing cannabis as a substance that can be taken seriously, both medically and recreationally, we first have to make it the domain of responsible adults. NORML has known this fact for a long time and makes that policy clear at every turn. We can help improve the esteem in which cannabis users and advocates are held by supporting responsible, moderate cannabis use by adults, which I know The Image Reaper and Storm Crow both basically agree with. Do I think it's unfortunate that some of the underage members will end up lying to get back in? Sure. But that's their choice, not something we're forcing them to do. The truth is that these youngsters have already had to be dishonest in some form or fashion to be able to obtain or use cannabis in the first place.

[Reefer Rogue]

I also want to set the record straight on two other matters. First, Invoke, Image Reaper wasn't hostile to Granny Storm Crow. He was simply candid with his thoughts. There's a big difference.

I don't believe what Image Reaper said to be candid because one who is candid is just and speaks with truth. What he said wasn't at all true or necessary, in the slightest. There was absolutely 0 need for him to say what he said. Accusations of child abuse are totally false and aggressive, therefore being hostile. If he has such concerns he should pm Storm Crow privately with the rep system. He shouldn't slander her in a public internet forum when she didn't provoke him. It's ironic that his words could easily be passed as those of one under the age of 18. Great example of adult maturity Image ;)

Anyway, i'm high, i'm done for now unless someone calls me out.

[Snorbel]

With the age rule, the population and forum activity has been halved. The quality of posts is much better.

I would halve the number of forums (to match the decrease in posting), get rid of reputation points, allow talk of legal drugs at least (tobacco, alcohol, salvia), allow messaging other members, and enable the option to have different colors for the forum layout.

Also, whoever voiced his opinion about Granny should be able to, even it was unpopular. It was just an opinion and not some sort of formal accusation.

[Reefer Rogue]

He is allowed to express his opinion as every person should be able to do. The reasons his comments were unpopular speak for themselves.

[birdgirl73]

Precisely, Snorbel.

A lot of y'all didn't like what The Image Reaper said. And that's fine. But Reefer, he said he believed that helping children with information about using or growing cannabis "bordered on child abuse." That's very diffferent, at least to the cogent, undefensive mind, from saying someone is actually abusing children. We all know that Granny cares very deeply about children, in fact, as an educator and a parent/grandparent. Granny capably argued her point very clearly and well in return. Was that a feel-good statement The Image Reaper made? Nope. It wasn't intended to be. It was intended to be blunt. But it wasn't hostile or aggressive. Hostile or aggressive, as I said earlier, would have occurred if he'd called her names, made allegations of actual abuse, or flamed her in some other way. Make sure you read things thoroughly and understand what's actually being said before you step up to the defense, Reefer.

[Reefer Rogue]

Like i said, this thread is about if we believe cannabis.com is better now or if we believe it was better before. I don't believe Image Reapers comments make cannabis.com a better place. It was unnecessary regardless of the technicallity of wether or not it was violent or agressive. He should've pm'd his concerns not slander on a public forum. I'm done, i don't know why i got involved really, i took it more personally then her lol. It's only coz i like her so much and know how much we need people like Storm Crow contributing to this site. We don't need those kind of negative comments on a stoner forum where it's supposed to be a frienly place, where people can get along and talk about getting high.

[GHoSToKeR]

I don't post round here enough anymore to have that much of an opinion of the changes that have been made. Sure, it's a shame the under 18 users got banned, and in my opinion it's better for them to have somewhere they can go to get good, responsible, honest advice... but at the end of the day, it's up to the owners of the site. If they don't want anyone underage here, for whatever reason, we've just gotta live with it.

No matter what you think about all of the subtle (and not-so-subtle) changes that have been made, this is still a cool place where we can come together to discuss something we all enjoy. So be happy. :)

[weedmaster]

i know what your all saying change isn't a bad thing and there are some great new peeps.i just felt that you use to really feel the love here but not as much now.
Birdgirl i ended the thread LOVE TO YOU ALL, isn't that a way of showing love. i think it's better than the immature if you don't like it you know where the door is.But your right instead of bitching about it do something about it so i'm off to the lounge to spread some love,LOVE TO YOU ALL.WM

[birdgirl73]

i know what your all saying change isn't a bad thing and there are some great new peeps.i just felt that you use to really feel the love here but not as much now.
Birdgirl i ended the thread LOVE TO YOU ALL, isn't that a way of showing love. i think it's better than the immature if you don't like it you know where the door is.But your right instead of bitching about it do something about it so i'm off to the lounge to spread some love,LOVE TO YOU ALL.WM
That wasn't immature, Weedmaster. That was just pure, plain straight talk.

Glad you've decided to take the high road and spread the love, however.

I get the distinct feeling this thread has served its purpose, but I may leave it open for a tad longer, at least until I sign off for the night.