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drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 01:53 PM
I was pretty damn high last night. My wife left me, went to stay with her parents. We had a big fight. Allow me to set the scene...

We're both incredibly young. We got married right out of high school, as we were with each other for 3 years in high school. We had never lived with each other, so that was a bit of a mistake. I'm 19 now, married, and in college with a TOUGH major. I'm trying to become a doctor, and I've got a pretty good chance with my grades.

Now, I don't know about all of you, but it's tough to live on your own with no support from your parents while taking college classes. Furthermore, it's even tougher to live while supporting a spouse who refuses to work, clean, or do anything at home. That's the problem... I've been working 100 hours a month on top of 12-15 hours of class each week. I have been so busy, too busy to clean up the house. So anyway, I keep coming home, and the house is a wreck... papers everywhere, she leaves food out, the laundry gets piled to where it is taller than me, and cat shit is everywhere. She doesn't change the litter box, but she blames the messy house on the cats. Well, let me tell you, the cats don't let the dishes pile up to kingdom come.

She doesn't contribute, and doesn't help me out. She takes too much, and doesn't give. I work my butt off for her. So how does she treat me? Like she's the victim and she's the one who'se made sacrifices. Just because she had a chunk of cash when she came into this marriage a year ago apparently means that she doesn't have to work, because "She's already made her sacrifice." I'd be more understanding if she had a job, or college classes, but she literally has NOTHING, and does NOTHING. She's got no friends, and threatens to commit suicide every time we have a big fight. She's violent, blows up randomly, and even punches me (I don't hit her back though, I'm a respectful guy towards women).

Well, someone told me that I really should just lay it down to her and let her know I wouldn't tolerate it. I did, for about 1 hour, I just stood up to her and let her know how angry it was making me. I didn't do this suddenly, either. I had asked her to go pay a cable bill, and she said she would. Later that day when I reminded her, out of nowhere, she yelled "Shut up!" So I just told her for an hour how horrible it was that she doesn't want to help, how much she would fail as a parent if she couldn't handle basic responsibilities, how I love her but need her to take up the slack, etc.

Well, she left me after I said that. Maybe she will come back, I don't know, I feel like crap right now. I'm pretty high too. I was very stoned last night. I need to just relax, maybe everything will fix itself. I don't know why I posted that here, but I know that stoners can be very accommodating.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 02:06 PM
I am so sorry to here that.... I have some thing for you. Give me a few min to put it togeather for you.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:11 PM
Thanks igot4cheep. This is actually the first time we've been apart for several months, and definitely the first time she's "left me"

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 02:23 PM
FTS... Her you go I wrote you a song. I hope you like it,

I got married right out High school because I got High.
I marred my High School sweetheart because I got High.
I wanted a happy life and I know why because I got High, because I got High, because I got High.

I am going to Medical School because I got High.
I am working 100 hours a month because I got High.
Trying to get a better life for my wife and me you know why because I got High, because I got High, because I got High.

Now my wife wonâ??t clean the house because she got high.
She wonâ??t the gotdam house because she got high.
I think I hate this bitch and I know why because she got high, because she got high, because she got high.

I come tired as shit because I got high.
I come piles of dirty dishes because my wife got high.
Now my house smell like old cat shit and I know why because I high, because I high, because I high.

I have given so much of my life up for her because I high.
Now I know I hate bitch because I high.
I leavening her ass in middle of the night because I high, because I high, because I high.

I just got graduated Medical School and great life because she high.
She missed out on a great life because she high.
Now I am banging a super model and I love my life because I high, because she high, because we high.




All in all man donâ??t let any one push you down. You can do bad buy your self. So if she wants to act like a fool then let her. Just do it from across town. You guys are young and people change. So donâ??t get stressed out and fuck up your life over something that is trivial. Keep up the good work and maybe itâ??s time to trim the fat from you life. I just shaved off 160 pounds if you get my drift. Remember on how this feels so you will not have to go thru it again and you can be happy. GOOD LUCK MAN.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:27 PM
hahaha! Oh man, thanks dude... that really helped. You're a riot. Seriously... I never thought I'd ever have to go through all this, but we at cannabis.com are like a big family. Maybe this is all for the better, even if she doesn't come back... I don't know how to feel, but you're right, people change, and if its not meant to be its not meant to be. Still, she's my wife, and I feel my duty to her every day. She just doesn't feel the same way..

I won't leave her. She's gonna have to leave me.

rguitar87
08-14-2007, 02:30 PM
damn i just smoked my first dro of the day and this is a sad post. I feel your pain man...my girlfriend has been very difficult and I'm 20. :stoned:

recz0r
08-14-2007, 02:31 PM
Now my wife won’t clean the house because she got high.
She won’t the gotdam house because she got high.
I think I hate this bitch and I know why because she got high, because she got high, because she got high.

I come tired as shit because I got high.
I come piles of dirty dishes because my wife got high.
Now my house smell like old cat shit and I know why because I high, because I high, because I high.

I have given so much of my life up for her because I high.
Now I know I hate bitch because I high.
I leavening her ass in middle of the night because I high, because I high, because I high.

I just got graduated Medical School and great life because she high.
She missed out on a great life because she high.
Now I am banging a super model and I love my life because I high, because she high, because we high.


that part was sweet goodness, ill tell you like ive been told all my life, "dont sweat the small stuff, only the big stuff like life" bitches come and go, get yourself together there will be plenty more women in your life time, dont fret over some broad who isnt worth it man. Good luck!:pimp:

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:34 PM
Thanks.

I mean, am I unreasonable? I try to see things from her perspective, but I just can't for the life of me put myself in her place when she told me to "shut up" when I told her to go pay a bill that was due... after she originally told me she would in the first place. I can't put myself in her place when she's too busy playing neopets or some other online game to just help out with the basic necessities of taking care of a home.

FakeBoobsRule
08-14-2007, 02:36 PM
Driveby, do you think she could be depressed? She is showing some signs of it.

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 02:36 PM
man ur situation suks but try to look on the bright side of things at least ur healthy (i think)ur not gonna die from this and at least u dont hvae a kid! man if u had a kid with her u would have to be tied to this girl until the kid turns 18 and not to mention how much it would suck for a kid to have a split family if u guys did divorce or w/e but man i wish u the best of luck and hope u can get things back together well.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 02:37 PM
lol you have some bitch who is using you, treating you like shit while you bust as so she can be a lazy baller... "i won't leave her"...sucker

she has her teeth in deep... i say congrats on the split, feel good about it, you just excercised your intelligence and will.

YOU SIR ARE SMARTER THAN ME!!!! smoke on friend

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:37 PM
She's been to the doctor and is on antidepressants. I think she's bipolar though moreso than depressed. The psychiatrists refuse to see her because we don't have money or insurance.

recz0r
08-14-2007, 02:38 PM
Thanks.

I mean, am I unreasonable? I try to see things from her perspective, but I just can't for the life of me put myself in her place when she told me to "shut up" when I told her to go pay a bill that was due... after she originally told me she would in the first place. I can't put myself in her place when she's too busy playing neopets or some other online game to just help out with the basic necessities of taking care of a home.

let her go out on her own, she'll soon realize that the world is not as accomidating as you have been, and shortly after realize that she fucked up. You guys are young, and did something quite common these days, i almost did it myself. It usually turns out being a mistake. You keep yourself together, you sound like you have a strong future, and with all that money youll be making, you can smoke all the pot you want.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:38 PM
man ur situation suks but try to look on the bright side of things at least ur healthy (i think)ur not gonna die from this and at least u dont hvae a kid! man if u had a kid with her u would have to be tied to this girl until the kid turns 18 and not to mention how much it would suck for a kid to have a split family if u guys did divorce or w/e but man i wish u the best of luck and hope u can get things back together well.

It is for this reason that I have not had a kid. I saw something like this possibly happening, and I did not want to be locked in in that sort of way. Plus, I didn't think she was responsible enough to raise one.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:40 PM
You know what I find kind of strange? 2 years ago, I drove to her mothers house and took her away, because she wanted to get away from her mom. Her exact line of reasoning was, "She's driving me crazy and I cannot live with her anymore. I hate her!"

Now, she basically had her mother do the same thing with me. She told her mother that she hated me and that I was driving her crazy.

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 02:41 PM
Driveby, do you think she could be depressed? She is showing some signs of it.

hit her up with that magical ganja and if u live anywhere with medical mary jay she might be able to get a card maybe u can get her to make her own crop that u can smoke off of lol best of luck my man

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 02:42 PM
dude... you need a little TuckerMax.com (http://www.tuckermax.com)

don't be that sucker man... you are about to up your status significantly, drawing more predators attention.... you are a male wildebeast, and i can tell hommie wants to be a lion

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 02:43 PM
hahaha! Oh man, thanks dude... that really helped.

I won't leave her. She's gonna have to leave me.

Any time man...:S2:

BTW don't wate untill you make $500.000 to leave her. She will get half. And then I don't want to read a "How to hide a body" Thread on here from you. Good luck and Have fun.:thumbsup:

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:45 PM
hit her up with that magical ganja and if u live anywhere with medical mary jay she might be able to get a card maybe u can get her to make her own crop that u can smoke off of lol best of luck my man

Her job tests for it. Luckily she doesn't care about me smoking though. She's smoked with me before. I think it would probably help her, yeah. Then again, she'd still never get anything done around here (hell, it'd probably make her worse in that respect, though I don't know how much worse you can get than not doing ANYTHING.

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 02:46 PM
this might sound crazy but make sure that if u have any kind of sexual relations with her again that she doesnt tamper with the condoms becuase she prob knows she had it really good with u and might want to have a kid so she can get child support and have a free source of income at ur expense becareful some ppl out there will try to bend u over for there own selfish reasons not saying she is like this just sumthing to keep in mind

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:47 PM
Any time man...:S2:

BTW don't wate untill you make $500.000 to leave her. She will get half. And then I don't want to read a "How to hide a body" Thread on here from you. Good luck and Have fun.:thumbsup:

I know. Sometimes I worry about that. I mean, hell, if she isn't helping me right now, how can I expect her to help me in the future? I HAD to lay it down for her yesterday. She left me no choice. I didnt LIKE yelling at her and making her feel bad, but I've tried EVERYTHING else. I tried asking her nicely, tried not doing any of her stuff, tried pleading, reasoning, etc.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 02:49 PM
Driveby, do you think she could be depressed? She is showing some signs of it.

Depressed.... I dont know. I took on mental disorders for a wile. To me it just sound like is is F!@king lazy man.

Dr HaZzMatT Esq.
08-14-2007, 02:51 PM
RUN! RUN! RUN as fast as you can!
it won't get any better
Ditch her NOW!

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 02:52 PM
can u really see u spending the rest of u life like this? u cant change a person they have to change themselves and if she doesnt see a reason to change because she knows u'll be there to take care of her then she wont change she'll just keep on sucking ur blood like a chupacabra

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:53 PM
this might sound crazy but make sure that if u have any kind of sexual relations with her again that she doesnt tamper with the condoms becuase she prob knows she had it really good with u and might want to have a kid so she can get child support and have a free source of income at ur expense becareful some ppl out there will try to bend u over for there own selfish reasons not saying she is like this just sumthing to keep in mind

I have worried about this a lot. I watch her take her birth control pill every night though. So far, so good. I don't use condoms. We've had a few scares before where she's missed a pill, but she hasn't gotten pregnant yet.

On an unrelated note, by the way, I am actually kind of enjoying the house to myself right now.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 02:54 PM
RUN! RUN! RUN as fast as you can!
it won't get any better
Ditch her NOW!

i have to say sucker one more time so you get it....
sucka


and don't EVER let them touch the condoms! jesus christ man

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 02:55 PM
I seams to me that you already know what to do. Donâ??t let you heart get in the way of you brain.

Dr HaZzMatT Esq.
08-14-2007, 02:57 PM
On an unrelated note, by the way, I am actually kind of enjoying the house to myself right now.

TIP: You can still buy Scott Peterson's fishing boat on EBay!
Take her fishing!

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 02:58 PM
Its just, guys, I can't handle being wrong about everything that has happened in the past 3 years. I've stood up for this woman like nobody's business. Hell, I took on 7 total strangers for making fun of her. I've stood up for her for family and friends, and made lies to cover her ass. I love her, and if I leave her, I don't want everyone to tell me "I told you so" and everyone to think of me as a failure. I can't handle that..

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 03:03 PM
yo man if i were u i would start wrapin ur shit up!!!!!!!!!!! i cant stress that enuf man the losss of a lil comfort is not worth 18 years of agony of paying 500ish dollars a month to some one u that just sits around and u wouldnt get to see ur kid that much unless u got custody but still man why go through it? wrap ur shit homie!

Number 1 DJ
08-14-2007, 03:08 PM
yo man whats done is done who cares what other ppl think yo! tell em to F*** themselves the biggest mistake here would to stay with her and make ur self miserable ppl forget shit fast anyways if ur really worried about it and ppl that make fun of u are not ur friends

FakeBoobsRule
08-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Depressed.... I dont know. I took on mental disorders for a wile. To me it just sound like is is F!@king lazy man.

Igot you must have missed driveby's follow up post to mine:


She's been to the doctor and is on antidepressants. I think she's bipolar though moreso than depressed. The psychiatrists refuse to see her because we don't have money or insurance.
Driveby that's tough because obviously she needs to be treated properly before you can decide your future but the writing is on the wall.


I love her, and if I leave her, I don't want everyone to tell me "I told you so" and everyone to think of me as a failure. I can't handle that..

Sometimes our best actions only result in rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Would you rather keep this up for another few years only to end up leaving her and then have everyone tell you "Wow, we really told you so?" Get her some help soon so that you can make a proper decision on your future.

Dr HaZzMatT Esq.
08-14-2007, 03:09 PM
i have to say sucker one more time so you get it....
sucka


Its just, guys, I can't handle being wrong about everything that has happened in the past 3 years. I've stood up for this woman like nobody's business. Hell, I took on 7 total strangers for making fun of her. I've stood up for her for family and friends, and made lies to cover her ass. I love her, and if I leave her, I don't want everyone to tell me "I told you so" and everyone to think of me as a failure. I can't handle that..

Then stay sad & upset
sucka!

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Its just, guys, I can't handle being wrong about everything that has happened in the past 3 years. I've stood up for this woman like nobody's business. Hell, I took on 7 total strangers for making fun of her. I've stood up for her for family and friends, and made lies to cover her ass. I love her, and if I leave her, I don't want everyone to tell me "I told you so" and everyone to think of me as a failure. I can't handle that..

swallow your pride... don't what's right when you know you are/have been wrong, is very liberating, but hard

fuckin married people and "i don't want to be a failure" GOD i hear that shit soooooooo mmuch from young couples...

TOO BAD, marriage is fucked, it is only for 20% of the population... we don't live in a caste society anymore...

dude, what other option do you have, you are smart... none, unless you are cool with having a lazy naggy queen bitch, who will take your money for nothing in return but stress...

i will get married
a)when i find a rich chick who has it so good, i don't mind being a bitch
b)i am old, and set... and i want some younger chick for arm candy... who cares what she does?
c) when i find somone who fits me perfectly, and ebbs to my flow, and greatly enhances my life, and wants to keep me happy (of course it goes both ways)


which option sounds less likely.......... C

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:10 PM
Its just, guys, I can't handle being wrong about everything that has happened in the past 3 years. I've stood up for this woman like nobody's business. Hell, I took on 7 total strangers for making fun of her. I've stood up for her for family and friends, and made lies to cover her ass. I love her, and if I leave her, I don't want everyone to tell me "I told you so" and everyone to think of me as a failure. I can't handle that..

Believe me man I mean this is the nicest way possible. You are ONLY 19 stop acting like you are 91. You life has not even begun yet. Chill out smoke one and calm down. This sound like this is the first time you got your heart broken. Yea I know you love her and you put so much time in the whole relationship. But there is a time you need to do what is best for you. I am sure all the older people here can tell you the same. It is your first and it will now be your last. Itâ??s sucks every time but it will make you stronger in the end. Calm down, chill out and think.

BTWâ?¦ Never taken on 7 guys unless it a life or death matter.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:12 PM
Sometimes our best actions only result in rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Would you rather keep this up for another few years only to end up leaving her and then have everyone tell you "Wow, we really told you so?" Get her some help soon so that you can make a proper decision on your future.

You raise a very good point here...

I'm going to have to make sure things change before I let her come back. I won't, unless things change.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:13 PM
BTW no one cares about divorce anymore... just married people, or divorcees

now society does judge marriage failures when there is kids involved, but that is fuckin retarded too...

i'm not takin anyones shit unless i get something out of it... you cannot put somone's happiness, or what society thinks ahead of your personal happiness... why you think OJ killed that cheatin whore... he snapped

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:14 PM
You raise a very good point here...

I'm going to have to make sure things change before I let her come back. I won't, unless things change.

lol change


i am gonna call you dr kid

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:15 PM
Believe me man I mean this is the nicest way possible. You are ONLY 19 stop acting like you are 91. You life has not even begun yet. Chill out smoke one and calm down. This sound like this is the first time you got your heart broken. Yea I know you love her and you put so much time in the whole relationship. But there is a time you need to do what is best for you. I am sure all the older people here can tell you the same. It is your first and it will now be your last. Itâ??s sucks every time but it will make you stronger in the end. Calm down, chill out and think.

BTWâ?¦ Never taken on 7 guys unless it a life or death matter.

I agree with everything you said and I'm sorry for holding on too hard to something that I can't control, save for the whole "first time you've had your heart broken" stuff. I've had it worse before, actually. I had one chick break up with me on a hospital bed once when I was thinking I was gonna die, said she cheated on me, that was tough. I'm smoking a fattie right now reading all of this. Thats what I like about smoking fatties... gives you a little perspective on things. I understand everything you guys are saying, just know that its VERY hard on me, because I've busted my ass for the last 3 years and it seems like its ammounted to nothing.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:17 PM
Thank You....
You know HighTillIDie is telling you some real shit too man.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:19 PM
dude you got so much experience out of all this, grown up, had a long term stable relationship, motivation through TOUGH classes, YOU ARE LEARNING AND GROWING BY THE SECOND. u haven't failed, she isn't the worst person ever, you just can't live with her... too bad you had to find out now... i had an older man tell me once never to get married till you have been with the person closely for 5 years, because there is little left to hide about themself... it's very true...

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:22 PM
dude you got so much experience out of all this, grown up, had a long term stable relationship, motivation through TOUGH classes, YOU ARE LEARNING AND GROWING BY THE SECOND. u haven't failed, she isn't the worst person ever, you just can't live with her... too bad you had to find out now... i had an older man tell me once never to get married till you have been with the person closely for 5 years, because there is little left to hide about themself... it's very true...

If this all goes the way it feels like its going, then I'm going to have to remember that 5 year thing.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:22 PM
VERY hard on me, because I've busted my ass for the last 3 years and it seems like its ammounted to nothing.


Bull... You have learned alot you had some good times. Now you know what to look for next time. Only if you come out of this and don't learn any thing, then you have wasted your time.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:26 PM
Bull... You have learned alot you had some good times. Now you know what to look for next time. Only if you come out of this and don't learn any thing, then you have wasted your time.

I've definitely learned a lot. I wish I could go back and just do it all over again differently, but I cant. If it ends, it ends. She packed up all of her things, so I'm left in my own place.... at least I hear that's good if we do get a divorce. Usually being the one that leaves is not good for you in the case of a divorce, apparently. She's on the lease though for the rental property. Mistake by me, I guess. We also split a bank account.. not like I have anything for her to take that she hasnt taken already.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:27 PM
yea, while you do need to remember that, you need to not think about long term blah blah blah

you serious mother fucker.

You are doing everything right, anyone that tells you otherwise or judges you... would also judge you for smoking weed... and we both know that neither of these things are how society views them, FUCK EM... i am gonna roll up a fatty at your delima, dr kid. I would hate to be in your position and not have all the experience with women i have... i can't imagine what you are going through... just don't listen to your heart, BAD IDEA... i am guessing listening to your heart is what made this a 3 year relationship not a 2 1/2

YOU HEAR ME?

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:29 PM
yea, while you do need to remember that, you need to not think about long term blah blah blah

you serious mother fucker.

You are doing everything right, anyone that tells you otherwise or judges you... would also judge you for smoking weed... and we both know that neither of these things are how society views them, FUCK EM... i am gonna roll up a fatty at your delima, dr kid. I would hate to be in your position and not have all the experience with women i have... i can't imagine what you are going through... just don't listen to your heart, BAD IDEA... i am guessing listening to your heart is what made this a 3 year relationship not a 2 1/2

YOU HEAR ME?

Your guesses would be right. Dude... I hate this. She was so perfect when I met her, lol. I guess things really change, huh. Well.. On a more practical note, what the hell do I do? Do I go see a lawyer? Do I tell her not to come back? I'm kind of new to all of this BS.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:34 PM
Your guesses would be right. Dude... I hate this. She was so perfect when I met her, lol. I guess things really change, huh. Well.. On a more practical note, what the hell do I do? Do I go see a lawyer? Do I tell her not to come back? I'm kind of new to all of this BS.



Dude move and change you number. Get you a GOOD lawyer. In the mean time gatther up all of here stuff and put in a box and sell it on Ebay.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:36 PM
YOU AUTOMATICALLY SEE A LAWYER, i don't care if you aren't even sure
ONLY talk to her when you are sure... don't jerk her around, be clear, civil, and communative... your relationship isn't over, just changing

And no moron, things didn't change, she just let her guard down, and you got to see the real her... we all act different in the beginning... not me, but tards do, lol... that's a classic rule of the game

lol i am just being harsh on you cuz you need it, but you have to communicate as best as you can with her, no reason to hurt her more than need be... she is a lazy bitch, but she doesn't know that, so she won't believe it, and it will be painful to hear.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:38 PM
Dude move and change you number. Get you a GOOD lawyer. In the mean time gatther up all og here stuff and put in a box and sell it on Ebay.

Lol dude. I barely have enough money to pay the rent. I'd have more were it not for her insisting she take a single summer class that costed 500 dollars. I can't move though, locked into my contract with the land lord. I might be able to get a lawyer for cheap though, being that my case really isnt all that complicated. We don't have verymany assets.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:40 PM
YOU AUTOMATICALLY SEE A LAWYER, i don't care if you aren't even sure
ONLY talk to her when you are sure... don't jerk her around, be clear, civil, and communative... your relationship isn't over, just changing

And no moron, things didn't change, she just let her guard down, and you got to see the real her... we all act different in the beginning... not me, but tards do, lol... that's a classic rule of the game

lol i am just being harsh on you cuz you need it, but you have to communicate as best as you can with her, no reason to hurt her more than need be... she is a lazy bitch, but she doesn't know that, so she won't believe it, and it will be painful to hear.

I understand being harsh, dont worry about it. I am not going to hurt her any more than need be, you're right. I'd like to make it as easy for her as possible. She needs some help, and I can't handle her. She's going to quickly learn that her mom can't take care of her anymore, as she's too old for that now, and she's going to have to depend on herself and herself alone. Thats going to be tough for her. She's going to realize she made a mistake, because dude, she's never gonna find another guy like me. I've given her so much respect its not even funny.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:40 PM
Dude move and change you number. Get you a GOOD lawyer. In the mean time gatther up all og here stuff and put in a box and sell it on Ebay.

lol, no, she is a lazy bitch not a cheating psycho whore...

keep your number, so your friends can call you

let her have her stuff... she is thinking like him man, OH NO, I"M A FAILURE, she will be hurting and full of mixed emotions... she will try SUPER HARD to manipulate him again, or SUPER HARD to hate on him... he needs to do the kill em with kindness thing as long as he can. it's the safest/healthiest option

btw since your young you may have alot of options as far as legally, depending on your area...

they will guide you through the rest of the process, like how to talk to her, when, about what... maybe you can get her to no contest with you, ect ect

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:42 PM
I understand being harsh, dont worry about it. I am not going to hurt her any more than need be, you're right. I'd like to make it as easy for her as possible. She needs some help, and I can't handle her. She's going to quickly learn that her mom can't take care of her anymore, as she's too old for that now, and she's going to have to depend on herself and herself alone. Thats going to be tough for her. She's going to realize she made a mistake, because dude, she's never gonna find another guy like me. I've given her so much respect its not even funny.

lol that's your mistake, you gave her no reason to respect you... women are funny creatures man...


NICE GUYS FINISH LAST...

OH, and you can't spend your time worrying about her... she is an adult, and stepped into an adult world when that ring went on... SHE IS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:43 PM
... she is a lazy bitch, but she doesn't know that, so she won't believe it, and it will be painful to hear.


PERACH...!!! He is telling you the truth. She dose not even think that is someitng wrong with her at all.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:46 PM
hmm...

You know, she left the ring with me. She threw it at me.

That's a 1000 dollar ring I bought for her.

Hmm...

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:48 PM
PERACH...!!! He is telling you the truth. She dose not even think that is someitng wrong with her at all.

She really doesn't dude. She thinks that she has NOTHING to do with any of this. She thinks its all the cats fault, and reasons her not helping, because I dont want to get rid of the cats. It's not their fucking fault that she doesn't clean their litter box and its overflowing with shit. And then she blames them when they finally get tired of using it. Well, its not their fault that the dishes are growing fucking mold.

I got pictures too, man, pictures of me cleaning EVERYTHING and her not helping at all. Pictures of some of the bruises she's put on me just for arguing with her. She's really got nothing on me, man. I really feel like I'm thinking very clearly right now.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:50 PM
hmm...

You know, she left the ring with me. She threw it at me.

That's a 1000 dollar ring I bought for her.

Hmm...

lol yea, she is working a bluff buddy

she got freaked out when you grew a spine so she got desperate

(i mean she could be serious, but women FUNCTION ON EMOTION, and crave drama, because it is emotional fuel)

think man, when shit is final you have a tuition reimbursement in gold and diamond


WOMEN, KNOW I LOVE YOU ALL, i just know alot about the game

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 03:51 PM
hmm...

You know, she left the ring with me. She threw it at me.

That's a 1000 dollar ring I bought for her.

Hmm...



Wow... She is lazy and stupid.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:51 PM
lol yea, she is working a bluff buddy

she got freaked out when you grew a spine so she got desperate

(i mean she could be serious, but women FUNCTION ON EMOTION, and crave drama, because it is emotional fuel)

think man, when shit is final you have a tuition reimbursement in gold and diamond


WOMEN, KNOW I LOVE YOU ALL, i just know alot about the game

You know what. Fuck it.

I just "lost" the ring.

I might "find" it again in a few months when I need the money for textbooks.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:52 PM
I got pictures too, man, pictures of me cleaning EVERYTHING and her not helping at all. Pictures of some of the bruises she's put on me just for arguing with her. She's really got nothing on me, man. I really feel like I'm thinking very clearly right now.

well you need a police report to really make things work in court for you... but still

BTW she is young man, don't expect much from her in court, unless her parents have money and hate you

only cougars fuck your asshole in court

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:53 PM
well you need a police report to really make things work in court for you... but still

BTW she is young man, don't expect much from her in court, unless her parents have money and hate you

only cougars fuck your asshole in court

Her parent (her dad died when we were together) is poor, and loves me.

HighTillIDie
08-14-2007, 03:53 PM
i'm tired of double, tripple posting... if you want go to chat

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 03:54 PM
I'll still post here, but sure, I'll chill in chat too.

wont say
08-14-2007, 04:42 PM
im 21 and have been living with my girl for 2 years now and on my own since i was 16 i have had some real low points in my life i've lived in my car for mounths and have been couch surfing at all my buddys places. thing where tite for a while and still are i guess but my girl has always had a posative attatude and brings me up when i am down, she cooks cleans and and rolls me joints and i have my own jobs like garbage, takin care of the dog (dutchie) and carrying heavy things lol. so i guess what im sayin is if shes not what u want in a girl leave her cuz theres alot of girl out there who would love to be with a doctor. and are tidy
oh ya with out my girl i would'nt be the man i am now.

igot4cheep
08-14-2007, 04:51 PM
im 21 and have been living with my girl for 2 years now and on my own since i was 16 i have had some real low points in my life i've lived in my car for mounths and have been couch surfing at all my buddys places. thing where tite for a while and still are i guess but my girl has always had a posative attatude and brings me up when i am down, she cooks cleans and and rolls me joints and i have my own jobs like garbage, takin care of the dog (dutchie) and carrying heavy things lol. so i guess what im sayin is if shes not what u want in a girl leave her cuz theres alot of girl out there who would love to be with a doctor. and are tidy
oh ya with out my girl i would'nt be the man i am now.

See you need girl like his, maby she has a sister?

slipknotpsycho
08-14-2007, 05:04 PM
it is definately time for some changes or for you to move on.... i'm not very big on splitting up becuaes the people aren't getting along, but this is just fucking ridiculous

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Slipknot, I'm just like you. I hate it when people brake up over petty disagreements, but this is bordering on insanity for me.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 07:02 PM
See you need girl like his, maby she has a sister?

Man. I wish. I just wish that she could be that woman. I can't see why she cant.

slipknotpsycho
08-14-2007, 07:25 PM
well ifyou don't want to leave her, and you do love her and want her to change, you could always cut her off of everything, MAKE her do shit for herself... alot harder then it sounds but it is possible...

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 07:51 PM
The bitch just took half of my money out of the bank account. She hasn't worked a single minute for the last year and a half! WTF!

Pending this next phone call, its about to be over between us. I was hoping that things would change, but she had to go and do something completely brash like this. I can't even fucking pay rent now.

snicklefritz1825
08-14-2007, 08:03 PM
A Girls voice here.:hippy:That really sucks I can understand somwhat how you feel. I am 20 years old I live with my 24 year old wounderful boyfriend I hope to marry one day. I have depression like your wife, depression is terrible. I've been working on what her habit is to. I am lazy and i procrastinate, I don't have a job wish I had one but want to get my high school diploma first. I am going to get better and treat my boyfriend better. But your wife does need help, try talking to her mother so she can slap some sence into her. My mom is always telling me to do better. Depression takes alot out of a girl cause we have so many emotions going on. Be patient with her always, walk away from lots of arguments when they are going no where. And yea I agree probaly the best thing for you to do is cut her off. She needs to learn life is about working to keep yourself living not being lazy.

slipknotpsycho
08-14-2007, 08:06 PM
The bitch just took half of my money out of the bank account. She hasn't worked a single minute for the last year and a half! WTF!

Pending this next phone call, its about to be over between us. I was hoping that things would change, but she had to go and do something completely brash like this. I can't even fucking pay rent now.

that sucks dude, cuz she's your wife and there ain't really shit you can do about it.... since yal got married, reguardless of how much she has or hasn't put in, she owns half your shit now.

dude i feel for you, i got married at 18, and we had our rocky moments of course, but we're making it now... but getting married so young is a bad idea, reguardless of how much you love that person.

you still got something on your side....


we're a family, we have a kid. that changes everything. that's the whole thing, the kid is everything. marriage is nothing without a kid, marriage is dating. it doesn't mean shit. and you don't realize it til you have a kid. here's what happens, when you get married you go holy shit! i can't leave now, i mean i wasn't think about leaving, but now i really can't leave. then you have a kid and say holy shit! i totally coulda left! the door was right there! now i can't go, i got a kid now.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 08:08 PM
A Girls voice here.:hippy:That really sucks I can understand somwhat how you feel. I am 20 years old I live with my 24 year old wounderful boyfriend I hope to marry one day. I have depression like your wife, depression is terrible. I've been working on what her habit is to. I am lazy and i procrastinate, I don't have a job wish I had one but want to get my high school diploma first. I am going to get better and treat my boyfriend better. But your wife does need help, try talking to her mother so she can slap some sence into her. My mom is always telling me to do better. Depression takes alot out of a girl cause we have so many emotions going on. Be patient with her always, walk away from lots of arguments when they are going no where. And yea I agree probaly the best thing for you to do is cut her off. She needs to learn life is about working to keep yourself living not being lazy.

Thanks. I value what you had to say there. I like hearing from a different perspective. I hope that she gets better one day, but I cannot forgive some of the things she's done to me. I am sorry for calling her a bitch, by the way, I don't like to degrade any woman in that sort of way, and I know the term is offensive to all women. I just feel so stabbed in the back. Its like she did it on purpose, treated me this way just to get money from me in the future, and now that I finally showed a little spine and told her to help, she just up and left, and took what she could.

snicklefritz1825
08-14-2007, 08:11 PM
That is a bitchy thing to do. Yea alot of girls don't like it but hey we can be bitches like you can be asses.:D If you decide not to leave her cut her off still sounds like a good idea to me. Depends on how she truly feels about you.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 08:16 PM
that sucks dude, cuz she's your wife and there ain't really shit you can do about it.... since yal got married, reguardless of how much she has or hasn't put in, she owns half your shit now.

dude i feel for you, i got married at 18, and we had our rocky moments of course, but we're making it now... but getting married so young is a bad idea, reguardless of how much you love that person.

you still got something on your side....


Yeah. I know man. I know that she is my wife and is entitled to half. So be it, she can have it. If that is what she values over our relationship, then I no longer feel bad about us splitting up.

Bluntmasterbabe
08-14-2007, 08:22 PM
You said she is young, and if you guys got together in school, she probably hasn't had the time or experience to realize what really goes into making a relationship work.
I'm not working right now, so I take care of the housework, errands, bills...etc. But when I start working, we'll split the chores 50/50. Cleaning and cooking is not just a womans job...I hate it when guys say that. But because I have more free time, and my husband is exhausted by the time he gets home from work, I take care of it. Gve and take kind of thing;)
You can't make someone grow up, but if you love her, try to work it out. Maybe you guys could get some counseling? There is always a way. If you don't think you can continue the relationship and be happy and satisfied, then move on. Best of luck to you.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 08:26 PM
You said she is young, and if you guys got together in school, she probably hasn't had the time or experience to realize what really goes into making a relationship work.
I'm not working right now, so I take care of the housework, errands, bills...etc. But when I start working, we'll split the chores 50/50. Cleaning and cooking is not just a womans job...I hate it when guys say that. But because I have more free time, and my husband is exhausted by the time he gets home from work, I take care of it. Gve and take kind of thing;)
You can't make someone grow up, but if you love her, try to work it out. Maybe you guys could get some counseling? There is always a way. If you don't think you can continue the relationship and be happy and satisfied, then move on. Best of luck to you.

I'd love to split the work 50/50 even though she DOESNT have a job. But 95/5% just isn't cutting it when all she does is stay at home all day and doesnt bother supporting the family.

snicklefritz1825
08-14-2007, 08:29 PM
I just got done smoking 1 bong bowl of midgrade. I am very high right now and I am about to go walk down the street to Dbo's Hot wings.:D:stoned:

snicklefritz1825
08-14-2007, 08:32 PM
Oops I'm so high I posted on the wrong thread.:eek:

GraziLovesMary
08-14-2007, 09:20 PM
I skimmed through and read a good portion of the posts.. theres alot of them for one day!!

My friend.. it seems that you have come to terms with her immaturity and the fact that she will most likely not change any time soon. I would chalk it up as a loss and learn from your mistakes. Be much more reserved in future romantic endeavors in order to prevent falling too hard for somebody before you really know them. I have made that mistake a couple times and it always ends in disaster.

It would not be a bad idea to wait until you are done with school to get into another relationship.. clear your head a little.

You are very clearly a smart and responsible dude. Dont allow yourself to get sucked into young, petty, immature bullshit like this.

Depression is an excuse to be obsessed with yourself. I was depressed for quite some time, suicidal, bi-polar, all that shit. They had me on 3,000 mg of Depakote a day for it because my levels were so fucked up, I was poppin two of the pink 500mg horse pills three times a day. And one day I just stopped taking that shit, I didnt want to rely on medication anymore, that was just another crutch. Fuck all that shit.. depression is: magnifying your problems in your head so that they appear monumentally impossible to get over, then feeling sorry for yourself for what you have to go through. When I realized all that I became very embarrassed and got over all that dumb shit within like a day lmao. This is YEARS of depression, too, not just a 2 month stint lol.

I guess the point is, make sure when you start getting interested in another woman she isnt selfish and self-centered. Make sure she is mature and has her head on straight.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 09:53 PM
So she just called me. She still was not ready to apologise. She said she just needed the money, and that's how it is. I have no way of getting back from her, buy whatever. I asked her if I needed to get a lawyer, and she said "Do whatever you want." I asked her if she got a lawyer and she said no. I think she called me to get an appology from me! I called her a failure in yesterday's arguement, said that she wouldn't amount to anything if she keeps being so responsible. She said that was over the line and over the top, and a stupid reaction to her telling me to "shut up" I told her to pay the cable bill. I didn't think it was over the top, because told her that the reaction was not to her saying shut up, but to the whole situation in general and how much she doesn't help me.

She then brought up something I said a LOOONG time ago, about how "She doesn't need to help out physically, but just give emotional support" and I flat out told her that emotionally, she's done nothing but bring me down with her suicide threats and laziness. She hung up after that.

drivebyphilosopher
08-14-2007, 09:54 PM
I skimmed through and read a good portion of the posts.. theres alot of them for one day!!

My friend.. it seems that you have come to terms with her immaturity and the fact that she will most likely not change any time soon. I would chalk it up as a loss and learn from your mistakes. Be much more reserved in future romantic endeavors in order to prevent falling too hard for somebody before you really know them. I have made that mistake a couple times and it always ends in disaster.

It would not be a bad idea to wait until you are done with school to get into another relationship.. clear your head a little.

You are very clearly a smart and responsible dude. Dont allow yourself to get sucked into young, petty, immature bullshit like this.

Depression is an excuse to be obsessed with yourself. I was depressed for quite some time, suicidal, bi-polar, all that shit. They had me on 3,000 mg of Depakote a day for it because my levels were so fucked up, I was poppin two of the pink 500mg horse pills three times a day. And one day I just stopped taking that shit, I didnt want to rely on medication anymore, that was just another crutch. Fuck all that shit.. depression is: magnifying your problems in your head so that they appear monumentally impossible to get over, then feeling sorry for yourself for what you have to go through. When I realized all that I became very embarrassed and got over all that dumb shit within like a day lmao. This is YEARS of depression, too, not just a 2 month stint lol.

I guess the point is, make sure when you start getting interested in another woman she isnt selfish and self-centered. Make sure she is mature and has her head on straight.

If, and thats a BIG if (because I've been burned by women before) I find another one, you can damn well be sure I will give it a lot more time before I take the plunge. She was not ready for this, and I was not ready for her. This whole event was so immature and brash.

GraziLovesMary
08-14-2007, 11:34 PM
If, and thats a BIG if (because I've been burned by women before) I find another one, you can damn well be sure I will give it a lot more time before I take the plunge. She was not ready for this, and I was not ready for her. This whole event was so immature and brash.

Dont feel bad dude Ive been there, I just got lucky and found her cheating before we got married. 4 years down the drain, but Im enjoying life single. Im not worried about sex, although its definitely something to miss, but I am happy. Just learn from the things that dont turn out the way you wanted them to.. analyze the "failures" then stop viewing them as failures and as lessons.

My immediate advice: begin the divorce process immediately. I am totally against divorce but in reality you guys got married way before you were ready, it was impulsive and doomed from the start. In no way is that your fault though, we are all just pawns in the game of love.

NextLineIsMine
08-15-2007, 01:09 AM
Wow I think im the first to mention this. You are waaaaaaaaaay young to be married, even to be thinking about it. Most including myself parted ways with their girlfriends after high school with the understanding we both would grow in different ways and meet new people. Imagine how this will pad out over the next 5 or ten years, then make your move.

surreys princess
08-15-2007, 01:27 AM
19? can you get an annulment? i dont have the track record to talk here, but damn...you need to get out while you can, i am sorry....neither one of you know who you are or what you want in life yet..seriously.....bag her clothes up and have her mom come get them and call legal aid.....i dont mean to be harsh, but....wow.........

"i can do bad all by myself"

good luck.....

slipknotpsycho
08-15-2007, 01:31 AM
19? can you get an annulment? i dont have the track record to talk here, but damn...you need to get out while you can, i am sorry....neither one of you know who you are or what you want in life yet..seriously.....bag her clothes up and have her mom come get them and call legal aid.....i dont mean to be harsh, but....wow.........

"i can do bad all by myself"

good luck.....

yeah, i agree with this... i suppose i just got lucky.... i know it wasn't the smartest decision, but it worked out ok in the end. (though alot of that is probably due to us having a 2 1/2 year old.. we HAD to stick it out, cuz i wasn't about to let my son go through what i went through)

HighTillIDie
08-15-2007, 02:22 AM
... wow, not so much a sucker... good man, do the healthy things, i like how you listened to her... and are still open to w/e... i would of just burpped in the phone and hung up, but i lack all real maturity

Mike23artist
08-15-2007, 04:17 AM
do u want ur doctor to be high on weed or ur plumber one day u might be brushing ur teeth with human fecies

drivebyphilosopher
08-15-2007, 02:45 PM
She's bluffing, guys! Lol. She really is, and I know it today. See, I thought she packed up her big boxes of sentimental stuff, becuase she had them all on the bed and ready to bring out with her. I just found them all in the closet. She would NEVER leave these in someone elses hands, they are important momentos to her, such as the flag from her dad's flag draped coffin. She's bluffing, and she will come back. Not that I'll take her back as - is, some things have got to change, but its good to have the info that she's bluffing.

igot4cheep
08-15-2007, 03:32 PM
Dude don't play here game. If it's a game than do something else. But don't play along.

rebgirl420
08-15-2007, 03:39 PM
Well hun, seems like your better off without her. Drop her like a fucking rock.

Bluntmasterbabe
08-15-2007, 03:51 PM
She's bluffing, guys! Lol. She really is, and I know it today. See, I thought she packed up her big boxes of sentimental stuff, becuase she had them all on the bed and ready to bring out with her. I just found them all in the closet. She would NEVER leave these in someone elses hands, they are important momentos to her, such as the flag from her dad's flag draped coffin. She's bluffing, and she will come back. Not that I'll take her back as - is, some things have got to change, but its good to have the info that she's bluffing.

Of course she's bluffing! That's what alot of women do. Pack their stuff and threaten to leave...or leave for a few days...as a way to punish you and make you realize how you can't live without her, blah blah blah. If you want to stay with her, you have to sit down and have a serious conversation. Don't talk at eachother...never start a sentence with "you"...always start with "I" as in "I feel that you need to help with the chores." That's how we work things out b/c you don't feel like you're being attacked by the other person. Just a trick I learned from daytime television;)

I hope every thing works out well for you.:)

igot4cheep
08-15-2007, 04:51 PM
Wow.. Even the girls say the same thing. It's time to move on.

GraziLovesMary
08-15-2007, 05:02 PM
She's bluffing, guys! Lol. She really is, and I know it today. See, I thought she packed up her big boxes of sentimental stuff, becuase she had them all on the bed and ready to bring out with her. I just found them all in the closet. She would NEVER leave these in someone elses hands, they are important momentos to her, such as the flag from her dad's flag draped coffin. She's bluffing, and she will come back. Not that I'll take her back as - is, some things have got to change, but its good to have the info that she's bluffing.

*sigh* dude... what disturbs me the most about this post is the amount of relieved joy that is radiating from your typed words. You are happy that she is bluffing as if that means she will change and everything will be ok again.

This is incorrect.

She is bluffing to try and fuck with your head to get her way like she always has and always will. Dude... shes not just going to magically snap out of childish immaturity like that. She has YEARS of growing up to do, and it will be YEARS before she can possibly even be considered for the position of equal benefactor in a healthy relationship.

DROP HER IMMEDIATELY AND DIVORCE HER ASAP. Im just trying to look out for you, remember that. I stand to gain nothing, only the satisfaction that I helped somebody avoid more heartbreak, or the dissappointment that my words had no effect and the inevitable heartbreak came like I said it would.

Think carefully and deeply before making your next move, my friend.

drivebyphilosopher
08-15-2007, 05:22 PM
*sigh* dude... what disturbs me the most about this post is the amount of relieved joy that is radiating from your typed words. You are happy that she is bluffing as if that means she will change and everything will be ok again.

This is incorrect.

She is bluffing to try and fuck with your head to get her way like she always has and always will. Dude... shes not just going to magically snap out of childish immaturity like that. She has YEARS of growing up to do, and it will be YEARS before she can possibly even be considered for the position of equal benefactor in a healthy relationship.

DROP HER IMMEDIATELY AND DIVORCE HER ASAP. Im just trying to look out for you, remember that. I stand to gain nothing, only the satisfaction that I helped somebody avoid more heartbreak, or the dissappointment that my words had no effect and the inevitable heartbreak came like I said it would.

Think carefully and deeply before making your next move, my friend.

In one sense, you are spot on. I agree and I have contemplated divorce deeply. However, I have never made a move like this, and I've never showed some spine. I'm waiting for her to admit that she was wrong to treat me the way she did, and that she will do her part. I'm waiting to SEE her do her part. I can hear it in her voice that she does not like her mothers place when we talk, but she is stubborn too and can't stand being wrong. It's tough on her.

I made a commitment to her, as stupid as it might have been, I made a promise. We married each other. However, that does not mean I'm going to get on my hands and knees for her. I told her that the only way I'm accepting her back is if we go through a sort of marriage counseling by some professionals. Even then, I told her that things have to change. If she can't accept that, then I will gladly divorce her. I'm not going to just throw my hands up in the air though and eject, not yet.

I understand that you want to save me the heartbreak. I've got more advice in this thread than I have gotten in my whole life on this woman. All of you seem to understand her, and all of you seem to understand me. That's great. In the end, the decision rests with me though... I know that she's no good right now, I know that what's going on is bad for me, and I have been given many ideas as to how to fix it. For the first time in my life, divorce is a real option. It is a serious option that takes some very careful consideration, before I become the epitome of what I hate about american society (infidelity, divorce, and lack of respect).

I think the most telling comments come from some of the women here, who are urging me to bail out. Some of you have also experienced what she is experiencing, as far as depression, suicidal thoughts, and laziness goes. I want to help her, but I don't want to let her play with me the way she does. I will do what I can, and if in the end I decide its not worth it, which it probably isn't, then yes, I will leave her.

And yes, I will keep you all updated.

GraziLovesMary
08-15-2007, 05:30 PM
In one sense, you are spot on. I agree and I have contemplated divorce deeply. However, I have never made a move like this, and I've never showed some spine. I'm waiting for her to admit that she was wrong to treat me the way she did, and that she will do her part. I'm waiting to SEE her do her part. I can hear it in her voice that she does not like her mothers place when we talk, but she is stubborn too and can't stand being wrong. It's tough on her.

I made a commitment to her, as stupid as it might have been, I made a promise. We married each other. However, that does not mean I'm going to get on my hands and knees for her. I told her that the only way I'm accepting her back is if we go through a sort of marriage counseling by some professionals. Even then, I told her that things have to change. If she can't accept that, then I will gladly divorce her. I'm not going to just throw my hands up in the air though and eject, not yet.

I understand that you want to save me the heartbreak. I've got more advice in this thread than I have gotten in my whole life on this woman. All of you seem to understand her, and all of you seem to understand me. That's great. In the end, the decision rests with me though... I know that she's no good right now, I know that what's going on is bad for me, and I have been given many ideas as to how to fix it. For the first time in my life, divorce is a real option. It is a serious option that takes some very careful consideration, before I become the epitome of what I hate about american society (infidelity, divorce, and lack of respect).

I think the most telling comments come from some of the women here, who are urging me to bail out. Some of you have also experienced what she is experiencing, as far as depression, suicidal thoughts, and laziness goes. I want to help her, but I don't want to let her play with me the way she does. I will do what I can, and if in the end I decide its not worth it, which it probably isn't, then yes, I will leave her.

And yes, I will keep you all updated.

My friend, there is nothing stupid for committing to the promise that you made, nothing but respect from me lies in that decision. I hope you are right, I hope that this could be the life-changing moment that she needed to snap into a healthy mindset and lifestyle. I hope for both of your sakes!

It makes me happy to see that there are younger folks who still understand the commitment of marriage, and I wish the best for you! Just make sure you stand strong against her immature impulses!

Good luck dude!

drivebyphilosopher
08-15-2007, 05:34 PM
My friend, there is nothing stupid for committing to the promise that you made, nothing but respect from me lies in that decision. I hope you are right, I hope that this could be the life-changing moment that she needed to snap into a healthy mindset and lifestyle. I hope for both of your sakes!

It makes me happy to see that there are younger folks who still understand the commitment of marriage, and I wish the best for you! Just make sure you stand strong against her immature impulses!

Good luck dude!

Oh, I'm standing strong, and she's not going to get any free rides from me anymore. She will do her part, I won't accept it otherwise. If she doesn't, I'll go in there and lecture her about how she's not going to be a good parent if she has no responsibility, how she keeps failing me, etc. I have a way with words, and even though it may seem cruel and cold to talk to my wife this way, it needs to be done and she needs to help. I feel like a new man, honestly. I feel like I can stand up for myself more now.

I also have to say this, lol, she's great at arguing. She can make me feel like everything is my fault. Two days ago was the first
time I stood up to that and called BS.

Oh, and one last thing.

Smoke some for me. I'm gonna need it. :joint1: