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Brand
08-06-2007, 12:59 PM
What's up people?I got a question,if anyone can answer it.Ok,first of all.I moved recently to florida,from kentucky,and I brought 2 dank kentucky indica plants with me.I believed them to be a male,and a female,and I was right.My stupid dog ate my female,and now all I'm left with is a male.I'll tell you,I was going to breed this strain,as it was a very sticky,stinky dank plant,with phat buds.I managed to get an eighth for 100,and it had 3 seeds.I would just chuck the male,and start over,but the weed here is horrible,and not worth growing.It's nasty mexican shit,more stems and seeds than buds.I made a mistake,and didn't bring any more seeds,of different strains with me,and now I'm left with a very healthy male.I was wondering if it would be possible to turn him into a female,or perhaps a hermaphrodite?I figure if I let him continue to flower,and keep him going long enough,maybe he will turn to a she.Is this possible?I hope my experiment will work,because there is no way I'll grow the shit here.Please help me with this question guys,as I would love to know if it's possible.PEACE

Storm Crow
08-06-2007, 05:48 PM
Bet you didn't even bother to google it or try a search here! Without hassling to check it, I believe gibberellic acid can cause sex reversal in male cannabis plants. -Granny:hippy:

stinkyattic
08-06-2007, 06:23 PM
You can do it with GA or light stress.
Mess with light cycle- bright light at night, at odd intervals.
GA, be careful. It's toxic!!! But yup, it works.

Mr_Green
08-06-2007, 08:19 PM
Damnn you paid 100 for a 8th??? that must have been one fat ass 8th or you got your money taken... please explain that to me...

Brand
08-06-2007, 08:49 PM
Ok,I don't wanna mess with toxic chemicals,so I guess I'll try messing with the light cycle.What exactly do I need to do?I have the plant growing outdoors,so I'm not sure I can put some bright light on it,with out the neighbors seeing me.The eighth I got was chronic,and it was very phat.I know the dude that grew it,and he hooked me up.One hit from a bong,or pipe,and you can't even walk,that's why I wanna keep this strain going.I searched this site,and others,and I just wanted to know what you guys think would be the best method,so get back to me.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-07-2007, 06:45 AM
ok i did some research for you on gibberellic acid and it turns out that most people use this acid on females to make them males to they can breed and have 100% female seeds so thats a bummer... but there are many cases that people did use it to make males into females so what you need to do is to take a clone and grow it and then add a little bit of the acid with water at the early stage of flowering. when you google it type in "gibberellic acid male marijuana" and a list of things pop up for it so good luck and let us know how it goes...

Brand
08-07-2007, 12:12 PM
Ok,thanks Mr Green,I just went to check on him,and it's confirmed,100 percent male.I'll tell you,I bet he's got some pretty dank smoke!He smells better than some females that I've grown.He's bushing out nicely,so I'll be able to take some good clones.I'll do a search,and figure out how to get some of the acid for the clones.I'm also going to extend his growing time,and keep him alive,way after he is done flowering.I read some where on this site,that if you do that,he might produce female flowers.I also saw on the sight,that if you give him around 10 hours of light,and 14 hours of dark,he might revert to a female.I'll try it all,because I can't afford good seed,and I'm not growing this nasty herb here.I'll keep you updated on my progress.PEACE

stinkyattic
08-07-2007, 03:19 PM
DO NOT SMOKE ANY PLANT TREATED WITH GIBBERELLIN!!!!!!!!

Brand
08-07-2007, 04:00 PM
Oh,I don't plan on it.I'm going to cut half of the plant off,and smoke that,This plant is growing outta control,and I'm getting worried that some one may see it.The surrounding plants used to hide it,now it really sticks out.I'm staying in a pretty well to do neighborhood,and the neighbors are pretty nosy.I hate to do it,but it's getting too risky.I might let it grow for another week or so,before I trim him up.I'm pretty sure I'll be wasting my time,trying to turn a male in to a female,so I've decided not to try the chemical approach.To tell you the truth,I don't see why people don't like to smoke males.I've grown some males before,that will knock you on your ass.If you grow a fire strain of cannabis,and you get males,chances are they will get you super high.I know this from experiance.I figure,I'll just keep him going,and get him bushy as hell,I'll then have a constant supply of grass.I'll tell ya my male,will be better than the real herbs here,because the herb here,is just that bad.I'm also thinking,after I top him,and bush him out,and extend his life,he might just get some female flowers.Well,wish me luck,and I'll keep you guys posted.PEACE

indicagrower
08-07-2007, 06:12 PM
your putting your very freedom at risk for a male plant!!!!!
I bought northern lights seeds for 18 bucks (including shiping)

Brand
08-07-2007, 07:22 PM
Yeah,you're right man,and I've been thinking about that all day.The plant is past my waste hi,and very visible.I'm going to get up early,and get rid of it,but I'll take a clone or two,just to see if I can get one to turn female.I'm broke,and have no job right now,so I can't buy any seeds.I'm staying with my mom,right now,and I wouldn't wanna waste the money on seeds,for her to just find them,and get rid of them.I guess,for now,I'm shit out of luck.Well,at least I got my poppies doing nicely,and those can be grown without me getting in any trouble.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-07-2007, 07:40 PM
aye if the man aint got no money he aint got no money... i'm in the same spot with my one and only plant...so try out the light method cuz that is what i will be doing if i have a male plant... and dont think negative like that your wasting your time cuz your not.. one... your spending time with your plant and learning from it and two.... you can at less say that you tried it out...the more you try random time wasting thing then the better you will become at growing... ya feel... so good luck...

Brand
08-08-2007, 01:59 PM
You said it man,and I decided to cut half of the plant off,and it was a good idea,I rolled up a few joints worth,and I'm stoned to the bone right now.That male was fire!i can't believe it.Well,I now have half of a plant,so it will surely bush out,and who knows,the stress might produce a hermie,and in my opinion,a hermie is next best thing to an actual female,because you get buds.I've grown many before,and I always smoke them,and get a good stone.Good luck on your plant,and if it is a male,try to turn it female.i'll keep everyone posted,if my method works.PEACE

stinkyattic
08-08-2007, 03:23 PM
Just to clarify things a bit, you will get female flowers but you won't put on the sort of crazy bud mass that a true female would.

Megatron
08-08-2007, 08:52 PM
Just take a clone and keep it small like a bonsai. This way when you get a good stable strain that you like, breed it with your stinky indica. Then after you get these seeds, simply cube them. Ill give you the short example of cubing for genetics. Lets call your Kentucky indica SI for stinky indica. And then you take a classic like skunk#1, or northernlights. Cross them together. i.e. NL x SI = NLSI. Now what you do is take those beans and grow out the NLSI. Simply pic out your best male and female, and cross them together making a F2 of your NLSI. i.e. NLSI x NLSI = NLSI (F2). Do this one more time, making sure to pic out the ones that show the most resemblence to your SI female that got eaten, making a NLSI F3. By now you should have no problems seeing all three phenos. One that looks like the mother, one that looks like the father, and then one that looks like both. Choose the ones that look most like the father (SI) and back cross a female F3 to the original father SI wich is referred to as the P1, or parent plant. i.e. NLSI (F3) x SIP1 = SI back cross. this will resemble your female indica from Kentucky the most. laterz..

Brand
08-08-2007, 08:53 PM
I know,but any female flowers are better than no female flowers,ya know?

Brand
08-08-2007, 08:55 PM
hmm,megatron,I'll have to try that,sounds like you know what you're talking about.I'll let you know how it goes.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-08-2007, 11:05 PM
Yea Female flowers are better than nothing.... good point... and in my point of view its whatever you feel that makes you happy with your growing...its all about learning and this new idea of cubing sounds like a great idea because you will mostly get the best of both ends... ya feel... go keep doing what your doing...and about your plant getting eaten by your bog is how i only got one plant left as well but my iguana ate mine..lol... he jus loves marijuana.... good luck to ya and yea keep us updated.......

horror business
08-08-2007, 11:13 PM
Since it seems to be such a great plant, I would suggest letting it finish flowering and simply collect pollen so you can pollinate a future female with it.

Brand
08-09-2007, 02:06 AM
Haha,yeah Iguana's love herbz.I used to feed mine leaves all the time!I also was thinking of saving some pollen,but I cut my plant into,and hopefully it will start flowering again.I'm hoping the stress will also produce some female flowers.Only Time will tell.How long will pollen last?I've never tried collecting it before,as I always used to get mostly all females.It's weird,when I first started growing,around 11 years ago,I got nothing but females,and maybe one male,and now I get all males,and I can't remember the last female I grew,it sucks.Oh well,I'll keep you guys posted,if I get some female flowers.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-10-2007, 04:36 AM
Yea my Iguana loves herb.... we burn every night and he jus chills... but yea keep trying to make that male into a female cuz if you make it happen then my little plant, if male, will have a chance to become a female flowerer... good luck...so you use to have an Iguana? Mine be mean sometimes.. any ideas on how to make him nice? just getting him high makes him nice but most the time he be blowing up and stuff...

stinkyattic
08-10-2007, 01:13 PM
"keep trying to make that male into a female cuz if you make it happen then my little plant, if male, will have a chance to become a female flowerer"

Let me say again.

You may get a couple calyxes here and there but a male is a male is a male.

This is starting to turn into one of those bad information threads. I'm leaving it up as a curiosity but this is NOT a technique that growers typically use.

Also, we do not tolerate ANY discussion of getting your pets high. All posts about that WILL be nuked and if it persists, expect infractions.

Brand
08-10-2007, 02:00 PM
Yeah,I know man,a male is a male is a male.I'm a very experianced grower,and have been growing for 11 years.I got some good grows under my belt.I always kill the males,and I hate males,but like I said I just moved to Florida,and I don't know any where around here,to get decent smoke,to obtain some decent seed from.I can't afford any quality seed right now,either,and I've looked at a lot of good sites,and most don't accept money orders,and I have no credit card.I'm just hoping,that maybe there might just be a chance to turn this plant into a hermie,so I can at least get some seed from it,and a lil better smoke.I'm thankful that you are leaving this thread up,as I believe that if this works,all the people who only grow one plant,and get a male,just might not have to throw it out.My Iguana was mean as hell,and whipped me with it's tail,and he clawed the heck out of me,that's why I got rid of him.You have to hold them,and pay attention to them,a few hours a day,and they will slowly become tame,but that's a different story.Well,my plant is still alive,and bushing out with two tops,very nicely.I'll keep you guys posted on it's progress,if this thread makes it that long,hehehe.PEACE

the image reaper
08-10-2007, 03:14 PM
I have heard of growers claiming they had a male plant turn into a female ... I also have read stories about Bigfoot, and Alien Abductees ... all claimed truthfulness ... (so, now, I'm standing in the woods, late at night, wearing a tinfoil hat, and looking for tracks, but my plant still has balls) ... :jointsmile:

stinkyattic
08-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Brand- I think this is a cool thing to experiment with, don't get me wrong, and I like that sort of curiosity- the thread is going to last, I just don't want to see people getting their pets high on it, ya know?

I personally HAVE had males go herm on me and start throwing pistils. It's Nature's way of continuing the species under unusual growing conditions. I never tried to use that male to make seeds, though.

There ARE some rumors surrounding the use of pollen from a hermi male, but I've never seen someone do a seed run that way.

Go nuts, it's pretty cool to experiment.

Brand
08-10-2007, 09:34 PM
Thanks stinky,It's just what you said,an experiment.I don't even think it will work,but then who knows.Yeah,I'm not big on getting pets high either, I fed my Iguana old leaf trimmings,but that won't get them high,remember,you have to use heat to release the goodies.I'll keep this experiment going,as long as the plant lives,and as long as this thread does.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-12-2007, 07:07 AM
Yea good stuff... my little plant is so young and i cant wait till its bigger to flower...and this experiment is one of the best ones that i'm a part of.. cuz if it wasnt for this experiment then i think i might have thrown my plant away if it was a male so this gives me some kind of hope... good luck...

Brand
08-12-2007, 12:19 PM
WOW,I'm glad a made a thread that is helping people out!Yeah man,don't throw out your plant,keep it going,and see if our experiment will work.Hey,by any chance can you post a pic of your plant,Mr Green?I'm curious,to as what yours looks like.Mine is bushing out nicely,and shooting out new growing tips everywhere.he still looks a lil rough though.I'll post some more pics,as soon as he starts looking better.PEACE

R-L-B BinGall Rec.
08-12-2007, 08:43 PM
even thoug it sounds like a long shoot, im in for a bit of experiments with it, so plaese post any on goin happenings with your male plant...i read the thread and i to (just a novice grower) think that its a fairly cool experiment and as stinky said if we dont try things out we never come acrose new stuff....so go for it:thumbsup:

Brand
08-13-2007, 01:02 PM
That's cool,I'll post any progress in my plant,and I believe it just might work.I know it's a long shot,but I'm going to go for it.I brought mine in last night,and put it under some strong light,so hopefully that will mess up it's cycle,and confuse it enough to push out some female parts.I just love female parts,hehehe.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-13-2007, 08:19 PM
Yea i'll try to get some picz up of my little plant... shez jus a small one.... but when i get some time tonight i'll do it...and i think that should mess up the cycle with the indoor lights... this may take some time but this is what this project is all about... good luck..

oldsanclem
08-14-2007, 09:31 PM
Over a few years of growing and looking around.
If Was a way to do IT it would have been done decades ago.
Now think of the cost savings,
Now think what a stable plant is worth
Now thats why no one would even fool with muther nature.
If a plant goes back to a male it knocks up a whole crop, and all you left with is wrothless seed, and may be some hash.
In the cost of things its seed, ferts, time , lighting and attorney fees.
Note you will go to jail for even a male , just as fast as a female.
Infact a plant with a root and one leaf is a plant.
Put you efforts into growing a real healthy bunch of females.
Cover you male with a condom and let it die , with the thought of getting its rocks off on a bunch of females, it will die happy.
After growing a few thousand plants, you will look back and laugh.

marmarkus2006
08-14-2007, 09:37 PM
Well being as I moved out here two years ago from florida, I can attest to the fact that the weed there is TERRIBLE. However, AS I read through this post, I failed to see one person point out that dirt weed, brick weed, mexi ect. is all dank, just needs tlc instead of huge fields with no one 2 one attention. Now granted you wont get nycd quality out of mexi but it will be a whole hell of alot better if you grew it out than it was when you bought it. Harvest your pollen from the male put it in the fridge, and grow you some bagseed. find a really nice female, the best of the best and let her get her groove on with the male pollen. dont need to be redundant as megatron told ya what do do in that area. peace

Mr_Green
08-15-2007, 04:54 AM
i guess some people dont like the idea of an experiment...experimenting is all about learning and learning more about a plant that you yourself is growing is priceless... sure people have been growing for a long time and know what exactly to do but as a new grower i'm curious and if im curious about something then i'm welling to try anything no matter how long it take and the money it takes cuz for me i'm learning something new for myself and no money and time can stop this experiment.... so keep growing... good luck...

Brand
08-18-2007, 03:31 PM
My plant is still pushing out male flowers,and no female ones.I might just give up on him.I'll let you guys know if I decide to stop the experiment,but you guys keep it up.PEACE

Mr_Green
08-19-2007, 05:40 AM
fo sho.... yea my plant aint doing so well... looking kinda sick so i'm curing that...but keep it up....good luck...