View Full Version : WARNING: Coming to a town near you- Beasters
horror business
07-23-2007, 03:56 PM
I hope this is the appropriate forum. I decided since I'm using pictures to prove my point, that it is. The subject is Beasters, and how many people are fooled. At this point, it is a critical concern, as my pictures will PROVE, because the SAME beaster is showing up all across America. And where does it come from? We'll get to that later.
On to my pictures. The first picture is a picture that the middleman/friend took of it before bringing it to me.. He would go up there to get some for himself, so he offered to take my money, and bring it back for me, which he did many times. He is no longer my friend, because I recently found out that the half ounces I was buying were only 175, and not 200 which he had me pay multiple times. Anyway, he used to bring me back great quality weed, but then the dealer had this SHIT for a month before he retired due to moving across the country.
The second picture was taken by billballard the creator of this thread: http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/120076-some-interesting-looking-stuff.html. In the post he reveals he is located in the Philly area. Well, I'm in the midwest. As you can see, they are the exact same "strain". There is no mistaking it, once you've encountered it, trust me.
The third picture is a pretty recent one taken by punkr0x0r, the thread creator. Here's the original link to that thread in case you're interested: http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/124745-new-half-quad.html
Where is punkr0x0r located at? Canada. The source. This shit is spreading like wild fire. In all of the forums where this weed has been posted, the majority of people say "Wow, that looks amazing, and dank" or something of that nature. Well, it's not. Sure, it may look good, but it doesn't get you high. It gets you drained. Not stoned, not "low" or anything that a normal indica should, but drained. It crackles when you smoke it. It's not even dry. The ashes are black, and taste like sulfer.
In every one of the threads, there is some one who tells the truth, that it is beaster. Unfortunately he is usually outnumbered by people who are fooled by it's appearance. If you come across this, as many people in virtually all the internet cannabis forums have been, don't buy it. It is mass produced shit. I am obviously not lying, because the dealer who I was getting it from, had a huge supply of it. And in other states, other people have large supplies of it, and the people who are getting it, are sick of it.
The pictures speak for themselves... Yes, they are pretty, but we're not in the floral industry, we're trying to get high, and get what we pay for. You get MUCH more higher off of "low grade" mexican weed, than this stuff, for half the cost. This stuff is SOLD as "dank", because of it's appearance. It has no smell, it has no flavor, it has no high. All it does is look nice.
It's mass produced in Canada, I know that for a fact, and I have read that it is grown by powerful Vietnamese gangs. They need to keep that shit in Canada, and stop sending it here. It's shit. Grow some real dank, and send it here if you want to, but not that shit. Hopefully this thread will educate people, and expose that shitty beaster.
Edit: I believe this deserves to be stickied, if not in this forum, than in the strains and seeds section, or wherever the most appropriate forum is. This is seriously spreading like wildfire across the states, and lots of people are paying high prices for this, just because of it's appearance. It's all the same guys, look at the pictures. They speak for themselves.
horror business
07-23-2007, 04:09 PM
Oh, I realized that since my personal picture taken by my friend was still in the bag you can't see the obvious resemblance as well, so here's a picture of it out of the bag. Again, trust me, don't be fooled by it's "good" looks. It's the exact same strain, all from the same place, same growers, etc...
sttomassmoker
07-23-2007, 04:17 PM
heh yeah DONT BUY BEASTERS.
it sucks when there is nothing around but beast.
trynagethigh
07-23-2007, 04:20 PM
Hey Horror,
Sorry to hear about you getting scammed. Havent gotten any of that yet but I did get some last week that smelled to high heaven. Smelled great in the bag but when I smoked one I was a sober as could be. Ive had shwag that got me higher than the smell good shit I got. Bet i'll ask for a tester next time. Cant blame nobody but myself on this one cause I know better than to buy without a sample.
Nocturnal Stoner
07-23-2007, 04:41 PM
is this what it looked like
Grade A
07-23-2007, 04:50 PM
Beasters.... yuck! :cursing:
I've personally seen people try to pass that stuff off as dank before too. They get offended when you don't even want to hit it. It's quite comical.
I'd rather be sober than inhale that garbage. I know some people that live for that shit because it's cheap and looks decent. Little do they know it's probably chemically tainted or just harvested way too early and won't even produce a buzz. Either way, it's garabage.
Save your money and by an 8th or quarter of dank instead of a half of that.
Good thread, but I still have a feeling there will be more posts labeled dank with pics of beasters.
:twocents:
thcbongman
07-23-2007, 04:52 PM
Yup, looks like typical beasts.
But it's usually cheaper than than most KB. You can cop it for 250 an oz. It's not terrible, not like you are smoking schwag! Nothing special either.
Infact, I have the exact same shit right now lol! Luckily I have a variety. :P
NightProwler
07-23-2007, 04:54 PM
thanks for warning us all, but i think its kind of hard to reconize this "false dank" just by appearance because i am sure that there is alot of dank bud out there that looks just like those pics. also, i dont knwo about other places, but where i live "beasters" is a title for quality, not a strain. beasters are referred to as the bud between mersh and dank (high mids, as alot of you would call it) its usually sold for 35 an eighth and is actually my preferred bud becuase its cheaper than dank but better than mersh
psteve
07-23-2007, 05:24 PM
Pretendica.
Grade A
07-23-2007, 05:34 PM
Pretendica.
Good one. :)
Alive
07-23-2007, 05:42 PM
In minnesota theres a lot of beasters floating around but your idiotic and ignorant if you think beasters if just 1 strain produced by some gang up in canada. the definition for beasters by minnesota standards in the lows of the highs. Better than mids but not as good as KB. Ive never had beasters that did not get me high beasters can be a bunch of differnt strains mass produced in canada and sent to the u.s. its not all just one strain.
edit- I added a pi cof some beasters i had a couple months ago, got me very high
Justinrg
07-23-2007, 05:53 PM
Seen lots of fucking dumb asses call me up wanting me to smoke there shit. I have seen it and it didn't smell like anything. I knew it was nothing but dirt so I passed on that nasty ass grass.
trynagethigh
07-23-2007, 06:13 PM
Pretendica.
pretendica...ROTFLMAO..i gotta use that one...LOL
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/k-lup/Picture140.jpg
a bad pic, but thats what beasters i get. think im alright
psteve
07-23-2007, 06:35 PM
B'ster is a generic term refering to the location the weed was grown. Like saying 'Mexican' or 'Jamaican' or 'Mendo'.
That's why I refer to 'looks-good/smokes-bad' as 'Pretendica'.
hempsmoker25
07-23-2007, 08:01 PM
man, that does suck.. i wouldnt get mad at your friend though.. hes gotta make some money out of a deal too.. knowing people is worth money too...
fsunoles
07-23-2007, 08:13 PM
What type of seed do beasters start out from? Strain name?
horror business
07-23-2007, 08:24 PM
I could go on a rampage right now, but I won't. I'm not stupid, I know beasters isn't a strain, but this current operation is mass producing this strain, which is beasters. I've showed three pictures from spread out across the country, all obviously the same.
I, unlike you, don't speculate, but actually know people involved in the transaction. I'm talking about this specific strain being grown. Yes, it is grown in warehouses, but the Vietnamese, if you would research your facts, you would know that's a fact, and not a speculation, you fool.
The people who have encountered this particular strain, all agree with me.
And for those who think beasters means quality, then it must suck to have never experienced real weed before. Weed with an intense and complex flavor. Sure, maybe if you are an occasional smoker, you will be satisfied, but not when you are a medicinal and daily user, or simply want something good.
This current strain of Beasters going around is shit, and that was the purpose of this thread. Just to show you, how this stuff is showing up in almost every american city. Maybe you forgot, but cannabis is illegal here, and other countries make a lot of money on their export. Obviously you've never seen a huge operation before, if you think it's farfetched that this strain of beasters is coming from the same place.
If I could, I would smoke a joint of real quality weed with all of you who are skeptical or fans of this shit, and I can assure you that you would agree with me. Unfortunately, I can't, I can only hope one day you'll get some good shit and see for yourselves...
horror business
07-23-2007, 08:37 PM
Since obviously beasters means different things to different people, I'll just refer to it as the mass produced EXACT SAME strain of "pretendica" being mass produced in Canada, and exported here. (beasters), but since people who misunderstand the post, I'll just refer to this shit as pretendica, does that make you happy? Either way, the SAME stuff is showing up everywhere, and that was the purpose of my thread. Not to have somebody try to educate me on what beasters means. I know it's not one strain, but it might as well be, because it's all shit.
Besides, I would know what I'm talking about obviously. For those of you who say it looks dank, I've owned it multiple times, and I've had real dank, and midgrade and shwagg before. And I'm telling you, this is shit.
I could have easily posted those pictures and said "Look at the dank I had!" and have people say "Wow, that looks amazing" or some other uneducated remark, but no, I'm here to expose this shit.
horror business
07-23-2007, 08:42 PM
No, it is not different. I've talked to owners of this shit, who have all agreed with me, on the fact that it smells like hay, is wet and moist (because it comes in vaccum sealed bags). You leave it out, and it shrinks and dries. It's packaged when it's harvested. It's not cured.
It's just like fools gold. This is fools weed. It looks good, there's no denying that. It has bag appeal, which is all they care about, because this is their job and they need their money. They are exporting this stuff, and people are stupid enough to buy it. All they need to make their money is bag appeal and it's working, as people are buying this.
stinkyattic
07-23-2007, 08:45 PM
That drained feeling is HORRIBLE.
I've smoked something that fits your description once around here in New England. Didn't like it at all.
We get a different Canadian commercial that we call 'Nooks' more often- I believe it is outdoor, doesn't look as good, not hairy at all, but has a lovely pine-sol smell and is a fabulous smoke despite the fact that it is mass-produced and DOES on occasion show up bearing signs of having been bricked at some point.
Thanks for the thread horror business. This is a good one.
horror business
07-23-2007, 08:51 PM
stinkyattic, thanks and yeah, until I can find a new source selling REAL dank, or until my Powerstout and Masterlow seeds arrive and I grow and harvest them, I'm only buying lightly seeded mids. It's actually 10x the quality of this beaster, the only downside is the few fully mature seeds, which I really don't mind, as it's better than getting stuff that is fully seeded with tiny immature seeds.
Oh, and nightprowler, it's not hard to recognise it, once you see it in real life. You will be able to tell if it's high quality, or this, judging on the fact if it has a smell. This stuff literally smells like hay. No "cannabis" scent whatsoever, until it's smoked. And even then, not much of a cannabis scent.
sttomassmoker
07-23-2007, 09:16 PM
yeah stuff smells like hay. It isn't dried properly at all. Doesn't smoke right. Would rather get an ounce of mids than beasters.
psteve
07-23-2007, 10:17 PM
stinkyattic, thanks and yeah, until I can find a new source selling REAL dank, or until my Powerstout and Masterlow seeds arrive and I grow and harvest them, I'm only buying lightly seeded mids. It's actually 10x the quality of this beaster, the only downside is the few fully mature seeds, which I really don't mind, as it's better than getting stuff that is fully seeded with tiny immature seeds.
Oh, and nightprowler, it's not hard to recognise it, once you see it in real life. You will be able to tell if it's high quality, or this, judging on the fact if it has a smell. This stuff literally smells like hay. No "cannabis" scent whatsoever, until it's smoked. And even then, not much of a cannabis scent.It also looks dense, but is too light. if someone is trying to sell you a bag that looks too big for the weight, check closely. It could be pretendica.
OzzyOz
07-23-2007, 10:30 PM
horror buisness is correct
Beasters = BC bud MASS PRODUCED/Grown with loads of chemicals, then its kiefed, and pretty much bricked after no cure and is sent to the US. Its ran by gangs, he's right when he says viatnamese gangs mainly
i've read articles on BC bud etc. horror buisness knows what's up, and its sad people buy stuff that looks like somewhat decent bud... but honestly, it doesnt get you very stoned unless you have a very low tolerance.
btw, this is important as many people think that beasters is dank bud just because it has hairs and comes in nugg form. Dont support beasters, tell your dealers you want real good nugg.
Weedhound
07-23-2007, 10:57 PM
What's all the crystally stuff on it? Are those trichs? Would it look like normal trichs etc under a RS scope?
Acouwaila
07-23-2007, 11:05 PM
I definately just got some bud a couple days ago that looks exactly like that...
he said it was kb...
its funny I saw this thread because....I found when smoking it the high wasnt as great as I thought it would be..
dont get me wrong ...I still got high...and it was a good high....but it took a lot to get there.....like 2 bowls to myself...
I was suprised
It also didnt seem completely dry....it seemed very soft and damp...
it smelt ok though
horror business
07-24-2007, 01:40 AM
What's all the crystally stuff on it? Are those trichs? Would it look like normal trichs etc under a RS scope?
Yes, they are real trichomes, but remember weedhound, it's what's in them that counts, not how many there are.
At last, people that support my goal of the thread. And yes Acouwaila it is very soft and damp. And thanks OzzyOz, you too know what's up.
Peace, and try to stay clear of beasters, lol.
horror business :rasta:
Ghost**
07-24-2007, 01:42 AM
would this be an example of what your talking about?
this is from MA, they just call it "dro"
smh @ ignorance
horror business
07-24-2007, 01:46 AM
would this be an example of what your talking about?
A perfect example. As you can see, it's the same weed as the pictures I posted. LOL, this is awesome, how my post is being proved by pictures before everyones eyes. Thank you for that. Yep, that's the beast.
blazea50
07-24-2007, 01:52 AM
Yea fuck beasters for Real!:S5:
Dr HaZzMatT Esq.
07-24-2007, 01:56 AM
DAMN those Vietnamese! :S4:
Matt the Funk
07-24-2007, 01:57 AM
I'm glad I never see beasters here. I kinda went off on canadian weed in another thread only because I was thinking about beasters. Good thread, I think I gave it 4stars earlier.
poiuyt
07-24-2007, 02:20 AM
I've had some bud lately that's been "soft and damp" something like Acouwaila said and I've been having really shitty highs lately. I made a thread about that somewhere in experiences. I thought I needed a break....could it be the weed?
Bah whatever, a break wouldn't hurt right now anyway.
how can all of that be so bad
Rutherford The Brave
07-24-2007, 03:54 AM
You gotta understand, beasters doesnt jsut mean one type of bud, around here beasters mean low level dank, we just call that shit that smells like hay or chemicals mids even if it looks good, we wont buy it. I get the piney organic shit, that still you would consider beaster, but it is well dried (read: crumbles and burns nicely) and has full trichomes on it, as opposed to the stalks that are left after that beaster is kiefed between canada and here. Bag appeal is good but the smell is always way off. It still isnt considered dank though. Consider these pictures:
Picture 1 and 2: Beaster, crumbly, smells really nice, has crystals, just isnt up to par with the dank we get.
Picture 3 and 4: Worser beaster, not manicured as well, less crystals, a little bit more of a underflushed smell, but still not that straight chemical shit that you see often around these parts. its fine by me for like 120 a half lol.
Picture 5: Organic outdoor beaster from Ohio University (lol its not from canada but it might as well be). Smells like hay, tastes like the earth, and gave me a nice high for all of an hour lol.
Rutherford The Brave
07-24-2007, 04:02 AM
To some real deal dank.
Notice how much different the shade of green is, as well as the stems. Stems are a good way to tell beaster, beaster is just the most bare green unhealthy looking stems around, most dank has really nice crystals going up the stem approaching the bud. Observe.
Picture 1: Good example of the concentration of trichomes on the bottom of the bud and where the stem would have been lol.
Picture 2: Another good example of trichomes on the bottom part of the bud.
Picture 3: Just some dank lol. Smelled like fruit mixed with a little skunk. An almost chemical smell, but a good chemical smell, not from underflushed fertilizers but from being the natural smell of the bud. Those who have had some quality kush will know what im talking about.
Picture 4: More dank, super silver haze that time.
Picture 5: Dankest bud ive ever had, came straight from Arcata. Those in the know will know lol.
Compare those to the beaster and you will see what to look for even when looking through a plastic bag. Dont get ripped off folks.
PHATTY LUMPKINS
07-24-2007, 04:32 AM
we call it FOOL'S GOLD. In the mountains.
smoking habit
07-24-2007, 07:00 AM
I mean, i agree with most of what you said. but you paid 200 for an o at one point of that shit? were you like 13?
So what I don't understand is how stupid these "Vietnamese" gangs are. Don't they realize that eventually most people will catch on, and then in return not buy? It makes very little sense to me. I guess for a quick buck it's a "good scam," but in the long-run it will only discredit them, and everyone will know not to buy it...
sttomassmoker
07-24-2007, 09:58 AM
no one is going to "catch on". there will always be a new generation of newbie highschool and college potsmokers who think this stuff is "dank"
the boss
07-24-2007, 12:09 PM
Dude, I swear I just had an oz of that same shit last week. I only paid $300 though so it's all good.
orangeman
07-24-2007, 01:54 PM
Wtf if it sucks and all that shit is it even Cannabis? Sure it isn't some type of similar looking legal herb or a strain that is really meant to be hemp? Not saying it isn't weed, I know it is I'm just confused on this because I honestly never had but that didn't look good and wasn't good :-/. I dunno but it's amazing that the stuff exists. It shouldn't have to be like that.
edit: And even though it doesn't do anything like WH says what does the trichs look like? Some one should get a scope and look at them and report what they see. It'll be even more trippy if they were all milky and amber or somethin like that and still doing nothing lol.
stinkyattic
07-24-2007, 02:57 PM
this is from MA, they just call it "dro"
It looks about right compared to what I've seen around here. I think your example takes the ripoff prize, too- that is the WORST manicure I've ever seen. Leaving big leaves on like that to increase weight? Shameful!
roll it up
07-24-2007, 08:39 PM
o yea i have had many a rant and rave about beasters.i fucking hate them!they are just that,unflushed chemically loaded half wet compressed keifed nugs o shit.ever wonder why they are so rock hard and compressed and dense?they are vacuum sealed which crushes a ton of trichomes.but before they are vacuum sealed,they are keifed,so they get to keep all the crystals and trichomes and still keeep roughly the same weight.half the time beasters are handled so often there is shit like hair and o yes,little small peices of plastic i have found that i can imagine would not be too good if u smoked(duH).they almost always have little tiny tiny tiny ass undeveloped seeds about the size of the period at the end of this sentence,if not smaller.they taste like shit,they burn like shit(literally)into hard little charcoal lumps that do NOT burn to clean ash.beasters are gross and are a waste of money.dont get me wrong tho,i have had EXCELLENT beasters that were so stinky and loaded with crystals and burned nice and burned to a clean ash.this is NOT the majority of beasters tho,just a small percentage that was unadulterated.they are often sold as quote on quote"dro"for 40-45 an 1/8. GARBAGE!america is totally flooded with this Canadian garbage and the funny think is they keep the real dank for themselves and send us the shitty beasties
Weedhound
07-24-2007, 08:56 PM
Yes, they are real trichomes, but remember weedhound, it's what's in them that counts, not how many there are.
I agree completely HB.....just trying to think of a way to pick it out of the crowd. From my point of view there's just something weird looking about it....it almost looks like some other kind of herb altogether. Am I mistaken?
Weedhound
07-24-2007, 09:00 PM
Don't they realize that eventually most people will catch on, and then in return not buy? It makes very little sense to me. I guess for a quick buck it's a "good scam," but in the long-run it will only discredit them, and everyone will know not to buy it...
That's called a thief....;)
thebigman
07-24-2007, 10:21 PM
this thread is for noobs. quit
Ghost**
07-25-2007, 03:10 AM
Some more examples of the Massachusetts "dro".
In my area which is up by the NH border this is all we really get around here, Anything considered lower than that (REGS) i tend to stay away from.
Haze is available depending on who you know :thumbsup: but thats mainly it.
Its once every great while that I get shit thats considered "good". The first time this summer I got some AK-47 and Kush thanks to a good friend
horror business
07-25-2007, 03:11 AM
this thread is for noobs. quit
lol, that's why other people agree that it's such an amazing thread. you're probably one of the vietnamese that grows it.
Ghost**
07-25-2007, 03:16 AM
This is yet another example, why this stuff is a lighter green i really have no clue lol, around here it runs $120 1/2 oz and anywhere from $220-240, depending on the person
edit: yes i realize there is a hair, my cat knocked the shit off the table and i had to go searching for it,...its an old pic anyway hahaha :thumbsup:
coledog855
07-25-2007, 03:30 AM
I could go on a rampage right now, but I won't. I'm not stupid, I know beasters isn't a strain, but this current operation is mass producing this strain, which is beasters. I've showed three pictures from spread out across the country, all obviously the same.
I, unlike you, don't speculate, but actually know people involved in the transaction. I'm talking about this specific strain being grown. Yes, it is grown in warehouses, but the Vietnamese, if you would research your facts, you would know that's a fact, and not a speculation, you fool.
The people who have encountered this particular strain, all agree with me.
And for those who think beasters means quality, then it must suck to have never experienced real weed before. Weed with an intense and complex flavor. Sure, maybe if you are an occasional smoker, you will be satisfied, but not when you are a medicinal and daily user, or simply want something good.
This current strain of Beasters going around is shit, and that was the purpose of this thread. Just to show you, how this stuff is showing up in almost every american city. Maybe you forgot, but cannabis is illegal here, and other countries make a lot of money on their export. Obviously you've never seen a huge operation before, if you think it's farfetched that this strain of beasters is coming from the same place.
If I could, I would smoke a joint of real quality weed with all of you who are skeptical or fans of this shit, and I can assure you that you would agree with me. Unfortunately, I can't, I can only hope one day you'll get some good shit and see for yourselves...
FYI, it's probably not the best idea to be on a forum titled after weed to be telling everyone you've seen bigtime operations, b/c feds and 5-0 might take notice to your ability to snitch on a major operation.
horror business
07-25-2007, 04:03 AM
FYI, it's probably not the best idea to be on a forum titled after weed to be telling everyone you've seen bigtime operations, b/c feds and 5-0 might take notice to your ability to snitch on a major operation.
I don't need your failed attempt of "advice". You are just a troll that has nothing to contribute to my thread. The "feds" already have all the information they need. Do you think they are not aware of the canadians importing their shitty weed here to the U.S. I'm not a Canadian, I'm a consumer, that is sick of that shitty weed. There are plenty others just like me that are sick of it. I have no one to snitch on, because all I know about who grows it, is that it is the Vietnamese. So, why don't you, not contribute to my thread anymore. You are ruining what was an amazing thread and guide. Fool.
:jointsmile:ive had shit like that before. it gets you more tired than regular good weed and not as high, but to say there is no high at all is a bit of an exaggeration
coledog855
07-25-2007, 05:09 AM
I don't need your failed attempt of "advice". You are just a troll that has nothing to contribute to my thread. The "feds" already have all the information they need. Do you think they are not aware of the canadians importing their shitty weed here to the U.S. I'm not a Canadian, I'm a consumer, that is sick of that shitty weed. There are plenty others just like me that are sick of it. I have no one to snitch on, because all I know about who grows it, is that it is the Vietnamese. So, why don't you, not contribute to my thread anymore. You are ruining what was an amazing thread and guide. Fool.
Chill the fuck out, man. If you want contribution then how about this:
Stop bitching b/c you got a bad batch of beast. I've had bad batches before, and I've had great one's like I do now. Now please get some friends in real life and stop patting youself on the back for making this thread. It's not gonna get stickied and you're not gonna become eFamous, so stop taking yourself so seriously.
psteve
07-25-2007, 06:17 AM
my thread
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[spilling my drink]
[catching my breath]
HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
smoking habit
07-25-2007, 08:17 AM
shut the hell up and quit acting like you're god because you found out beasters suck and posted about it. jesus get off your high horse over an internet thread.....
i duno which order these pictures are gona show up, but if you can believe it the baggie is 2 oz.s of beasters if i remember correctly... wet, barely trimmed, compressed. this bag was from like 2 or 3 years ago no idea why this picture is still on my computer but yeah, that's 2 Os of wet shit.
the blunt pictures are of a blunt (ha, obviousely) of beasters a friend and I smoked one night. That was a long time ago too but I think there wasnt shit to do one night so we decided to smoke an 8th and get all "dumbed out beaster high???" and watch southpark.
Divestoned
07-25-2007, 08:59 AM
where I come from beaster is the slang term for BC weed (as in from canada) formerly known as BC's...yea it's crap.
Dive:stoned:
horror business
07-25-2007, 02:27 PM
LOL, what you people fail to realize, is that I'm not bitching. I no longer buy beasters. For the last time, I created this thread to show people about this current strain, that is showing up, and is being mass produced. This current strain sucks, not a bad batch, it sucks.
And it is my thread, as I created it, and if you create your own thread, it will be your thread.
Chronisseur
07-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Another way to identify these BC's is by the strange, not-so-pungent hay type smell.
Horror Buisness is definately speaking words of wisdom to you skeptics.:thumbsup:
Chronisseur
07-25-2007, 03:25 PM
.....13,14 maybe?
smoking habit
07-25-2007, 04:10 PM
the strain itself doesn't suck horror..... it would be bum as hell if treated/handled correctly. I think its some type of hashplant now adays, im pretty sure it used to be big bud. Remember hearin that shit somewhere.
horror business
07-25-2007, 04:10 PM
.....13,14 maybe?
what are you talking about?
psteve
07-25-2007, 05:59 PM
And it is my thread, as I created it, and if you create your own thread, it will be your thread.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
"My Thread!!!"
horror business
07-25-2007, 06:42 PM
the strain itself doesn't suck horror..... it would be bum as hell if treated/handled correctly. I think its some type of hashplant now adays, im pretty sure it used to be big bud. Remember hearin that shit somewhere.
You're right about that. It's the operation that sucks, and it's such a huge operation, growing out that one strain, and exporting it.
Since the only thing they care about is making money off of exporting it, rather than producing fine cannabis, all they want to make is big pretty buds.
Obviously, they don't dry it, but instead immediately vacuum seal it, so it weighs more, and is all sticky.
If I had a clone of the strain they grow, it would be amazing, because I'd flush it for the last 23 days before it's harvest, dry it, and cure it.
So it's this one operation that is exporting this stuff everywhere, which is obvious by the pictures that I, and others have contributed to this thread. (Yes psteve, thread, lol).
I for one, hope they get shut down. They are ripping us off every day, selling that shit as "dank". And people believe it, because of it's looks. It smells like hay, and is shitty. The high is not a high, but a drain. Not a low, not a stone, but a drain. Unless you are a novice, or an occasional smoker, then you might be satisfied. But not if you're a medicinal user, or a daily user, or someone who simply wants fine cannabis. Or not shut down, because I don't believe any cannabis organization should be shut down, but at least somehow stopped from exporting their shit here. Well, no, they should be shut down, because they aren't a cannabis organization, they are simply a Vietnamese gang, who knows nothing about fine cannabis. Because if they did, they would know people want something that works, not something to stare at, and imagine it was something good. Not something to take pictures of. It's like fools gold, it's fools weed.
And as you can see from the pictures I posted (for all new readers, don't just jump in and assume you know what we're talking about... read the first page), it's all the same. It's obviously coming from one place. One place that is producing mass quantities, and they are doing a shitty job. Well, no, they do a good job, until the last few weeks before harvest, and then immediately after harvest.
They should at least sun dry it, and brick it, at least that would give an indication to how shitty it is. Actually, it would probably be better if it were dried and bricked. At least it would be dry, and I could simply grind it up, and collect kief. You can't even collect kief off of it, if you have a grinder with a screen, because it's so wet. Fuck that organization. I'd fully support it, if they were producing actual dank, but they are not, just a look a like.
Peace,
horror business :rasta:
P.S. READ THE FIRST PAGE IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY!
horror business
07-25-2007, 06:51 PM
It's obvious what they do to their plants. Since their idea is "huge buds=$" they do whatever it takes to make huge buds. They must think if the buds are huge, they are good. Not smell, flavor, HIGH, etc... Like I said, they want their money, and are distributing it all over, so they don't have to deal with complaints, etc... They still keep making their money, as soon as they hand it over, and have their money, that's it. They aren't selling it to the final consumer, so they don't care. That's where they mess up at.
coledog855
07-25-2007, 07:05 PM
It's obvious what they do to their plants. Since their idea is "huge buds=$" they do whatever it takes to make huge buds. They must think if the buds are huge, they are good. Not smell, flavor, HIGH, etc... Like I said, they want their money, and are distributing it all over, so they don't have to deal with complaints, etc... They still keep making their money, as soon as they hand it over, and have their money, that's it. They aren't selling it to the final consumer, so they don't care. That's where they mess up at.
They are running a business, just like any corporation in this country (except their's is a felony). If you don't like their product then don't buy it, simple as that. McDonalds makes pretty crappy food b/c they cut corners and mass produce everything to turn a better profit. It's still food and it will still fill you up, but it's not great food and you won't feel great after eating it. What's my point? Point is, this is commercial weed so you should expect commercial quality, not homegrown. Just b/c you don't like it doesn't mean you should ruin it for anyone that does like it.
and BTW: I've had some great buds from this stain:
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/112431d1168711570-delicious-weed-bowl-picture-100.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/109860d1167692977-sample-50-8th-my-area-picture-046.jpg
Which is sticky, dry, and dank. Then I've had the leafy, uncurred, and wet version of the same strain. Maybe there's more than one wearhouse growing this stuff;)
stinkyattic
07-25-2007, 07:25 PM
I think if there is one thing to take away from this thread, it is that it's good practice to get samples first, or have your dealer smoke you up.
If your dealer is a good businessman, and you are a good customer (pay up front, buy regularly, don't leave your car running on his front lawn while you are buying a bag.... etc), this should be easy enough.
Granted if you go make a pickup once in a blue moon, or ask for him to front you something, he's going to tell you to get stuffed.
But if you go buying a zip of some unknown CRAP based on how it looks, the joke has been passed along to YOU.
I'm happy to say I've had it once, tried it, decided against taking any more (it would have been a trade for some homegrown, for variety), and my guy wasn't offended. There's plenty of other suckers in town.
This thread has been an interesting and informative read- I am most upset by the practice of running buds destined for the green bud market through a hash extractor. That's shitty. Like, "here's your Happy Meal... sorry, I already ate the cheezburger out of it".
horror business
07-25-2007, 08:00 PM
They are running a business, just like any corporation in this country (except their's is a felony). If you don't like their product then don't buy it, simple as that. McDonalds makes pretty crappy food b/c they cut corners and mass produce everything to turn a better profit. It's still food and it will still fill you up, but it's not great food and you won't feel great after eating it. What's my point? Point is, this is commercial weed so you should expect commercial quality, not homegrown. Just b/c you don't like it doesn't mean you should ruin it for anyone that does like it.
and BTW: I've had some great buds from this stain:
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/112431d1168711570-delicious-weed-bowl-picture-100.jpg
http://boards.cannabis.com/attachments/cannabis-pictures/109860d1167692977-sample-50-8th-my-area-picture-046.jpg
Which is sticky, dry, and dank. Then I've had the leafy, uncurred, and wet version of the same strain. Maybe there's more than one wearhouse growing this stuff;)
As far as ruining it for others that like it, good. That's the point. If everyone stops buying it, they will be like "oh, it must suck", and then finally produce the actual goods.
Those buds are what mine looked like when I dried and cured them, as if I harvested them myself. BTW, that's what I recommend anyone to do, if they get this. Obviously, if you bought it like that, someone before you, dried and cured it, because they don't. It's all from the same place. I'd like to know what strain it is, so I can grow it myself, and see how much more amazing mine is.
I would honestly LOVE beasters, if it were priced accordingly. It's definitely NOT dank. Yes, it looks dank, but they aren't. They are all chemmy, and lack a lot of aspects such as flavor, smell, enjoyable high, etc...
The problem is, and what I want people to get out of this thread, is that it's "Fool's Weed" as in "fools gold". It should be NO more than $20 an eighth, etc... The problem is, is that it's sold between 30-60 an eighth, depending on your connection, etc... But for the most part, it's sold as dank, and is usually around 45-50. That's bullshit. Because, I can spend 20 dollars, and get an 8th of skunky fluffy mids, with a few fully mature seeds, but no immature seeds, and get BLAZED, and experience flavor.
So, this thread is a warning, that you should refuse to buy it, if it's any more than $25-30 USD, I believe that's the price, depending on your location, etc... Because that's all it's worth.
You win some and you lose some. Next time you're shopping around you might benefit more from actually shopping around and not impulsively buying whatever you can get your hands on.
I was fortunate to acquire some decent pot awhile back, but as of lately I have been rather prudent when buying.
coledog855
07-25-2007, 09:24 PM
As far as ruining it for others that like it, good. That's the point. If everyone stops buying it, they will be like "oh, it must suck", and then finally produce the actual goods.
Those buds are what mine looked like when I dried and cured them, as if I harvested them myself. BTW, that's what I recommend anyone to do, if they get this. Obviously, if you bought it like that, someone before you, dried and cured it, because they don't. It's all from the same place. I'd like to know what strain it is, so I can grow it myself, and see how much more amazing mine is.
I would honestly LOVE beasters, if it were priced accordingly. It's definitely NOT dank. Yes, it looks dank, but they aren't. They are all chemmy, and lack a lot of aspects such as flavor, smell, enjoyable high, etc...
The problem is, and what I want people to get out of this thread, is that it's "Fool's Weed" as in "fools gold". It should be NO more than $20 an eighth, etc... The problem is, is that it's sold between 30-60 an eighth, depending on your connection, etc... But for the most part, it's sold as dank, and is usually around 45-50. That's bullshit. Because, I can spend 20 dollars, and get an 8th of skunky fluffy mids, with a few fully mature seeds, but no immature seeds, and get BLAZED, and experience flavor.
So, this thread is a warning, that you should refuse to buy it, if it's any more than $25-30 USD, I believe that's the price, depending on your location, etc... Because that's all it's worth.
In the south (where I live) weed is over priced to the point that those buds I showed were resold for 50/8th, but that bridges the gap between mids (30/4th) and headies (60/8th). You can get the beast for 40-50. The market will always exist b/c it does look good and everyone can turn a great profit on it. The pounds guy, ounces guy, and down to the 8ths guy will all turn at least 30 percent returns b/c everyone below the dealer thinks its great, and if they don't they will resale it to someone that does. It's the nature of the beast that is a black market. People will always find ways to rip off each other, so it really doesn't matter how well known this bud is, b/c there's a sucker born every day. And if the Canadian gangs stop growing, then someone else will take their place.
Money runs the world, eveything else takes a back seat, in the long run.
JD1stTimer
07-25-2007, 10:44 PM
To me it looks like this shit.. Hawaiian Gold Bud Herbal Smoke Shop Legal Buds (http://www.herbal-smoke-shop.com/hawaiian-gold.html)
Oh, and I've seen a picture of what that looks like when it actually comes shipped to the customer, it looks way more like the beasters you are talking about. I think someone's trying the much talked-about trick of selling the legal herbal buds once they saw in CC Magazine that an editor (Or was it Marc himself?) thought those products were difficult to tell from weed just by looking at them.
coledog855
07-26-2007, 03:44 AM
You still get high, just not a specific indica or sativa high.
smoking habit
07-26-2007, 07:56 AM
jd1sttimer, shhhh.
JD1stTimer
07-26-2007, 08:52 AM
Oh yeah, sorry smoking habit...
bluntblaze
07-26-2007, 11:36 AM
Oh yeah, sorry smoking habit...
hahaha:D
horror business
07-26-2007, 04:06 PM
You still get high, just not a specific indica or sativa high.
yeah it's definitely weed, and it would be good, if they would harvest it correctly, and flush it.
smoking habit
07-26-2007, 06:25 PM
Oh yeah, sorry smoking habit...
i mean, you can apologize sarcastically or whatever. but it doesn't change the fact that what you said was about at as stupid as religion.
horror business
07-26-2007, 06:32 PM
haha, stupid as religion. Yeah, if you can't tell fake bud apart from real bud, then... yeah, lol.
poiuyt
07-26-2007, 08:28 PM
Montreal, Canada.
Didn't get me or any of my friends very high at all. It lasted me 45 minutes and I took 3 waterfall hits. (1 hit gets me fucked) It is soft and seems wet, but it is not.
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horror business
07-26-2007, 08:58 PM
Lol, we need to find the address of the warehouse they are growing it all in, and send them Jorge Cervantes Ultimate Grow DVD or something, lol.
pixel
07-26-2007, 10:56 PM
I like beasters for blunts, but thats all ill give it. it gets me very burnt out.
its way better than shwagg tho and im not spoiled, stuck up, or unfathomably stupid enough to pass it up for being dry. ppl who say that are kidding themselves and are probably only saying it cause they are sitting on a sack of headies.
i dare u to pass up beasters after a week of not smoking, lol, its not happening. u guys make beasters sound way worse than it is
its really only a bad strain when ppl play it off as dank. it's mid grade, commercial grade weed, plain and simple.
JD1stTimer
07-27-2007, 03:07 AM
Okay, I guess I'm wrong, and so is the CC magazine crew. Sue me.
onebigt0ke
07-27-2007, 05:33 AM
Most aspects of the topic beasters have been covered in the post. However, I would like to clarify some facts seeing that many forum users don't know much about beasters. It's not just one big grow operation in one warehouse, and there are plenty different strains of beasters. In addition to the vietnamese, who actually use a large network of small grow operations, the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang controls a large share of the distribution, but they tend to use large warehouses. Whoever said mids got you higher than beasters is totally wrong. I don't see the reason why we should "hate" beasters. I always buy true dank rather than beasters, but not everyone can. The beaster trade will never stop, and I can't fault kids who rather buy 40 an eighth of beasters instead of 60 an eighth for some bomb dank.
onebigt0ke
07-27-2007, 05:34 AM
Also, beasters are dense but very heavy.. not light. What pisses me off is people trying to sell beasters for dank prices.
JaMakin07
07-27-2007, 05:38 AM
ooo the deception
fatsackville
07-27-2007, 07:41 AM
man, that does suck.. i wouldnt get mad at your friend though.. hes gotta make some money out of a deal too.. knowing people is worth money too...
thats what i was going to say
$25 out of $200 isnt so bad i would EXPECT my friends to make that much if i had them core for me.
dont tell me your one of those people who are so tight they only kick down like a joint for scoring them an oz :(
horror business
07-27-2007, 09:31 AM
No, in addition he was having me give him gas money, and he was going on his own free will, to buy his own weed (with the money he obviously made off of me).
And once again, this isn't about beasters in general, just the one type, that I posted pictures of. People need to read the entire topic before they reply.
JerryBerries420
07-27-2007, 09:39 AM
o no wet beaster damnn soemtimes ppl do it on purpose so the bud weighs more and costs more but smells horrrible and tastes like shit almost moldy why cant they just send the dank beasters we get on occassion
horror business
07-28-2007, 07:57 AM
Well, this stuff is wet because they don't dry and cure it, because of the added weight, but they don't add water to it.
Johnny McPotSmoker
07-28-2007, 08:34 AM
I've had extremely similar looking buds.. definitely wish I could find the driver CD for my camera so I could post the pics. The more you talk about it, the more I realize that I may have been fooled. When I buy it, it is very moist, often times even hard to light. I wouldn't say I'd rather smoke shwag, but we'll see. The guy who sells it is one of my friends, and he's probably been fooled just like I have.
I don't know though, now that I know about it I'll see if I do get such a drained feeling next time I smoke it... I'm certainly not buying anymore for $50/eighth.
I'm getting an eighth of Sage to break in my new bong though :thumbsup:
Gunna hit me pretty hard after going cold turkey on smoking for the past two weeks.
horror business
07-28-2007, 04:22 PM
I'm getting an eighth of Sage to break in my new bong though :thumbsup:
Nice! I love SAGE, one of my favorite strains. Yeah, that stuff you were getting was probably the beast.
TheDefiler
07-28-2007, 04:53 PM
Man beasters suck ass. I'm sick of paying $50 an 1/8th for crap.
Maggz
07-29-2007, 08:37 AM
they're still beautiful
affasd
07-29-2007, 10:36 AM
No, it is not different. I've talked to owners of this shit, who have all agreed with me, on the fact that it smells like hay, is wet and moist (because it comes in vaccum sealed bags). You leave it out, and it shrinks and dries. It's packaged when it's harvested. It's not cured.
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ya man thats actually what me and my friends call this shit we call it hay
Subcool
07-29-2007, 01:53 PM
Whats really crazy is how far weed has come. Down in the southren states there still smoking brick weed and beasters is sold as dank.
The weed when I left the south came in three forms
Dirt
Bark
and Moss
the fact green pretendica is now the lowest common denominator cracks me up
On a side note TGA is grown in bulk in canada you just have to know the right people.
fackfackfack
07-29-2007, 02:35 PM
The people who have encountered this particular strain, all agree with me.
Actually, I live in MA, and I smoked shit that looks identical to those nugs, and it got me ripped. Therefore, I disagree.
sttomassmoker
07-29-2007, 05:32 PM
I like beasters for blunts, but thats all ill give it. it gets me very burnt out.
its way better than shwagg tho and im not spoiled, stuck up, or unfathomably stupid enough to pass it up for being dry. ppl who say that are kidding themselves and are probably only saying it cause they are sitting on a sack of headies.
i dare u to pass up beasters after a week of not smoking, lol, its not happening. u guys make beasters sound way worse than it is
its really only a bad strain when ppl play it off as dank. it's mid grade, commercial grade weed, plain and simple.
lol yeah man, I will buy beasters when it is totally dry. But only an 1/8. Usually good bud doesn't take long to find its way back here.
But I'd rather buy an ounce of good mids over a half of beasters anyday. I don't think I'd ever buy a half of beasters.
TheDefiler
07-29-2007, 05:45 PM
Seems like this crap is all we can get around here. And now I'm hearing that its gonna be dry around here til possibly October! Every once in a while i'll hear about some schwag or decent mids going around but it's always when im broke....then when i do have money the connect is gone.
roll it up
07-29-2007, 07:20 PM
lol around here we call it "haydro"
Dntel
07-29-2007, 07:27 PM
I actually smoke ALOT of Beasters, no, not by choice, but since when i cant get headies, this is what is available. Beasters is ALWAYS available. But i can say that the beast that i recieve does have potency, and some batches arnt worth shit, but 85% of the time, its some decent bud. But another reason why you want to stay away from Beasters is because so many dealers these days will go the extra mile to make more money by weight. Beasters is very very compact, and VERY easy to spray down with water or soda. People do this ALOT and i dont believe it will stop in the beaster community. The easiest way to tell if its watered down is pinch the bud and feel the dampness, or just grind it up and see that your gram broke out to a joint.
psteve
07-29-2007, 08:06 PM
lol around here we call it "haydro"
HA!
That's good!
Jeff Spicoli
07-29-2007, 10:05 PM
that shit just reached me over in cali. smoked 2 grams to my face and i didn't get high, fuck
horror business
07-29-2007, 11:54 PM
Like I said, it all depends on how much you smoke. Obviously us experienced smokers, find beasters to be shit, smell like hay, and not get us high. To the occasional smoker, who doesn't get the chance to see fluffy buds that often, they will think it's dank, and will still get high, and be satisfied. The main problem I have, is the fact that it's sold as dank, at dank prices. It has no amazing flavor. Unlike shitty weed, it doesn't taste BAD, but it still has no flavor. People who haven't experienced amazing weed, probably think beasters "taste" amazing.
In the end, I'm right, and the people that know agree. There will always be naysayers, but they obviously haven't experienced amazing weed before.
BakeNSkate
07-30-2007, 02:06 AM
We had a plague of that shit here in detroit
not sure if everyone caught it cuz it was on the west side and spreaded into the suburbs
lasted for about a month
i had to search deeeeep for some dank and it was hard
it just ended about a week ago
finally i can go back to my regular dealer with confidence
coledog855
07-30-2007, 03:55 AM
In the end, I'm right, and the people that know agree. There will always be naysayers, but they obviously haven't experienced amazing weed before.
Get over yourself, it's just weed.
horror business
07-30-2007, 04:13 AM
Well, for some, it's their life.
coledog855
07-30-2007, 04:23 AM
Well, for some, it's their life.
I know I'm being judgemental, but there really is more to life than getting high. I think if your life revolves around a drug, then you probably have a pretty bad mental addiction.
durban poison
07-30-2007, 05:28 PM
beasters is called dro around me but i only smoke kush and diesel i love new york ahaaaaaa
Matt the Funk
07-30-2007, 05:57 PM
Get over yourself, it's just weed.If you treat it just something for fun to do at parties or whatever thats fine. But some people really enjoy the plant and everything about it. The experience of injesting it, and growing+harvesting it. Also if you compared weed to another hobby, you wouldn't want something low quality, that looked good quality, but you were also paying the high quality price, would you?
stinkyattic
07-30-2007, 07:14 PM
I don't look at it as 'just weed' at all.
I enjoy growing as a hobby. I am fascinated by the plant, which is somewhat unusual in the plant kingdom for its method of reproduction and medical potential. It's not 'just weed'- it's a plant worthy of studying.
Smoking Beasters or any other unpleasant type of bud out of desperation to me screams NEED more than anything else. Like the cannabis equivalent of the bum drinking Listerine out of a paper bag.
horror business
07-30-2007, 07:25 PM
Right stinky, it's not just weed to me. Some people spend their lives studying, growing, and harvesting fruits and vegetables. Some people spend their lives studying the different compounds in cannabis that cause you to get high. There is so much variety in the cannabis species, it's just so fascinating. What makes other plants so much better than cannabis? In fact, I personally think cannabis is one of the most interesting plants to study, because of it's wide range of effects, that have medicinal and recreational benefits. What other plant has so many purposes?
While it may seem farfetched to those who settle on living a basic life, with a "regular job", etc... some people want to spend their lives doing what they're passionate about.
What do you have to say about people like Soma, Jorge Cervantes, Simon from Serious seeds, Shantibaba, DJ Short, and all of the other greats that have spend their lives studying and breeding an amazing plant? Personally, that's the kind of life I'd like to live, and I will do everything I can to make sure it happens. Luckily, I'm young, so I already have a good start.
coledog855
07-31-2007, 02:02 AM
If you treat it just something for fun to do at parties or whatever thats fine. But some people really enjoy the plant and everything about it. The experience of injesting it, and growing+harvesting it. Also if you compared weed to another hobby, you wouldn't want something low quality, that looked good quality, but you were also paying the high quality price, would you?
There's nothing wrong with studying, growing, or smoking weed, but when your life revolves around an illegal plant then you're probably addicted. Weed in America can take away everything you've worked for, and it can ruin lives b/c unfortunatly it's illegal. So if your life is focused on getting high, then eventually you will get caught and you will suffer for your actions. For the vast majority of us, it's illegal and there are no legal means to make a living off of weed, so it is JUST a hobby.
I told him basically to chill out b/c there's no reason to ruin a good thing for people. Many people enjoy beasters and really don't need or want to spend the extra money for headies. HB really should be greatful there are beasters b/c this drives down the demand for headies, which in return lowers the price we all pay for headies.
coledog855
07-31-2007, 02:07 AM
Right stinky, it's not just weed to me. Some people spend their lives studying, growing, and harvesting fruits and vegetables. Some people spend their lives studying the different compounds in cannabis that cause you to get high. There is so much variety in the cannabis species, it's just so fascinating. What makes other plants so much better than cannabis? In fact, I personally think cannabis is one of the most interesting plants to study, because of it's wide range of effects, that have medicinal and recreational benefits. What other plant has so many purposes?
While it may seem farfetched to those who settle on living a basic life, with a "regular job", etc... some people want to spend their lives doing what they're passionate about.
What do you have to say about people like Soma, Jorge Cervantes, Simon from Serious seeds, Shantibaba, DJ Short, and all of the other greats that have spend their lives studying and breeding an amazing plant? Personally, that's the kind of life I'd like to live, and I will do everything I can to make sure it happens. Luckily, I'm young, so I already have a good start.
Aight, since you're still young. Be smart and not get caught with weed. Go to college. Get a degree in biology, toxicology, horticulture, microbiology, chemistry, ect... then go to grad school to specialize in a sub field of plants. Then take that degree and move to Cali or Amsterdam and open a growing business/club. Hell, you couldl even get a MD and PhD and study the effects of THC and Cannaboids. All I'm saying is if you truely love weed, then don't waste away your life smoking it, when you can really do a lot to advance our knowledge of the plant or learn how to grow it and make a living off of it. Just don't sit around all day smoking weed and doing nothing, but you'll never acheive much in life.
horror business
07-31-2007, 11:09 AM
Aight, since you're still young. Be smart and not get caught with weed. Go to college. Get a degree in biology, toxicology, horticulture, microbiology, chemistry, ect... then go to grad school to specialize in a sub field of plants. Then take that degree and move to Cali or Amsterdam and open a growing business/club. Hell, you couldl even get a MD and PhD and study the effects of THC and Cannaboids. All I'm saying is if you truely love weed, then don't waste away your life smoking it, when you can really do a lot to advance our knowledge of the plant or learn how to grow it and make a living off of it. Just don't sit around all day smoking weed and doing nothing, but you'll never acheive much in life.
That's what I plan on doing, I love growing plants, even if it's not MJ, so I figure if I'm in a place where it's illegal, I can use my knowledge for growing other plants etc... but I have full intention on moving to a place where I can legally grow such as like you mentioned California, for the dispensaries, or (when I can afford to) move overseas to the 'dam. Depending on the legal situation in Canada, perhaps B.C.
Cervantez
07-31-2007, 12:07 PM
I hate when i smoke a joint and it drains you, wtf!! Thnx for showing that for us bro, hope it NEVER gets to the Azores!!!
http://boards.cannabis.com/closet-cabinet-growing/122430-cervante-s-closet.html#post1512807
stinkyattic
07-31-2007, 12:41 PM
Go to college. Get a degree in biology, toxicology, horticulture, microbiology, chemistry, ect... then go to grad school to specialize in a sub field of plants.
College- Check.
Biology degree- Check.
Legitimate work experience at a legal herb hydroponics facility- Check.
Good job running a chemistry lab- Check.
Next step- Masters degree in Plant and Soil Sciences or Horticulture.
With any luck, we'll get decrim by the time I'm out. The state I intend to move to eventually has already gone medical.
We shall see what the future holds for Miss Stinky.
psteve
07-31-2007, 04:06 PM
Like the cannabis equivalent of the bum drinking Listerine out of a paper bag.
NO.
It's not like the bum.
It's like the grandmother who takes too many aspirins because she can't afford her prescription.
stinkyattic
07-31-2007, 04:27 PM
steve i am strictly talking about kids who are buying beasters for rec use.
they have very little medicinal value after they have been kiefed and processed. it sucks.
you should seriously know me better than that to accuse me of being insensitive to the neeeds of med users, come ON
psteve
07-31-2007, 04:31 PM
steve i am strictly talking about kids who are buying beasters for rec use.
they have very little medicinal value after they have been kiefed and processed. it sucks.
you should seriously know me better than that to accuse me of being insensitive to the neeeds of med users, come ON
WHOA!
No accusation intended! I DO know you better than that!
I was speaking strictly from my own experiences with medical and recreational users.
I've never seen anyone holding a sign on the freeway ramp that said 'just want to get stoned'.
stinkyattic
07-31-2007, 04:33 PM
I've never seen anyone holding a sign on the freeway ramp that said 'just want to get stoned'.
Well you should catch the 'locals' boards when the noob kids start posting about their desperation, or 'recreational' when they are asking if you can get high off bong water.
psteve
07-31-2007, 04:37 PM
Well you should catch the 'locals' boards when the noob kids start posting about their desperation, or 'recreational' when they are asking if you can get high off bong water.
LOL yeah I've seen it. Hopefully not so much anymore.
But still, they're not like bums. Bums are controlled by their addiction. Those kids are just angry that they can't get what they want. More like a tantrum than a withdrawal symptom.
stinkyattic
07-31-2007, 04:39 PM
More like a tantrum than a withdrawal symptom.
touche
roll it up
07-31-2007, 05:04 PM
i agree with everything horror business says u are obviously educated on the herb my brother and he is just fed up with the flow of shitty Canadian weed.thats it.dont fuckin hate on him he isnt ripping on anyone for smoking beasters,as i see it he is trying to do u all a favor by giving u a heads up on exactly what it is,Fools Weed.no smell(unless hey) shitty taste(i personally think they taste like chemicals and ass) and,barely a high.why is this?because they KIEF THE SHIT OUT OF THEM thats why there is usually no crystals on the outside of the bud and idk about u guys,but i sure dont want to spend 50-60 on an 1/8 of weed to look at it.i wanna SMOKE it and get HIGH. not buzzed with a headache and all i wanna do is sleep after cuz that is the best way to describe it,it leaves u ABSOLUTELY DRAINED
horror business
07-31-2007, 07:37 PM
Well said, and you're right, I was simply trying to do everyone a favor as it's being distributed all across the U.S. But I guess some people would rather buy beasters and pretend they're smoking dank because of the appearance than have an enjoyable high.
dirfjiggler
07-31-2007, 09:30 PM
beasters is like the new shwag where im from. Shwag hasnt been around in like 10 years. It's beasters or dank ..
Losers who deal here wet the beasters to get more weight.
punkr0x0r
08-01-2007, 02:38 AM
All I know, is that I'm sick of this crap.. I've gone through a half ounce in less than a week. I have to smoke so much of it to catch a decent high. Then, once you come down, it's a terrible burn out t hat makes you want to do nothing but sleep all day long.
One thing, if you say it's coming from Vietnamese growing it in BC, that's not really Canada's "fault." More or less the people who are growing it.
horror business
08-01-2007, 03:24 AM
Definitely not Canada's fault, I'm not ignorant enough to blame one problem on the whole country like the war seems to do, and the majority of american's view on the middle east. Not all are terrorists, just like not all people who live in America agree with the government,lol a majority don't.
Yeah, the comedown sucks on this current massive "batch". Luckily I haven't bought it in over a month. Just actual dank :rasta:
coledog855
08-01-2007, 04:07 AM
Horror, you still haven't responded to my posts about the economics of beasters. You're going to be paying less for dank if beasters exists. The demad for weed will be constant, and spread across schwag, mids, beast, and KB. If you take our beast, then the demand for mids and KB will rise as will the price.
affasd
08-01-2007, 01:34 PM
ya man idk i used to get some real nice beasters that actually smelled like weed lol, and actually got nice and high, but lately ive been getting this shit when i cant find heady shit, and man im smokin on some now and the taste is just terrible, taste like complete ass
pixel
08-01-2007, 03:35 PM
People arent buying it out of desperation, they are buying it cause they want to smoke weed, and sorry to burst your bubbles, but this is weed. THis gets people high. If someone wants to smoke it they are going to, and to say that they are smoking out of desperation unjustified. To be so stuck up as to say that people who smoke beasters are any more desperate to get high than you are is ridiculous.
Beasters is great blunt weed, it's cheap, and it burns slowly because it is moist... u need a grinder or long ass fingernails though
Again, if someone sells it for the price of top quality weed and calls it dank, that's a different story. But alone, this is mid grade weed, period. It can't all be dank. Be angry with the dealer/grower, not the weed.
Horror, you still haven't responded to my posts about the economics of beasters. You're going to be paying less for dank if beasters exists. The demad for weed will be constant, and spread across schwag, mids, beast, and KB. If you take our beast, then the demand for mids and KB will rise as will the price.
that's actually a pretty good point and undebatable.. that's just how supply and demand works very good point cole.
how is beasters NOT mids? beasters is mids plain and simple here in NY, close close close to canada...
coledog855
08-01-2007, 07:05 PM
beast is low dank. In the south we have
1. Schwag-seedy, stemy, and dry.
2. Mids-some seeds, stemy, soft, few hairs and crystals
3. Beasters-no seeds, few stems, dense, tons of hairs, sometimes a lot of crystals
4. KB-no seeds, small stems, fluffy, hairy, covered in crystals.
stinkyattic
08-01-2007, 07:22 PM
You're going to be paying less for dank if beasters exists. .
Ahh.. like Beasters as a decoy so that the nOObs will buy up the pretty, yet crappy, weed and leave the solid mids for the rest of us! :D
billballard
08-01-2007, 07:47 PM
well said, i was fooled by this at first, but iwas def beasters.
glad im back on locally grown dro.
horror business
08-01-2007, 07:51 PM
Horror, you still haven't responded to my posts about the economics of beasters. You're going to be paying less for dank if beasters exists. The demad for weed will be constant, and spread across schwag, mids, beast, and KB. If you take our beast, then the demand for mids and KB will rise as will the price.
No, that really makes no sense whatsoever. The majority of beaster is sold at dank prices. Around 50 an 1/8th. If people stopped buying beasters, obviously the demand for something good would arise which in turn would make it more available and at a more reasonable cost. I honestly don't see how anyone can enjoy smoking it.
People buy it, and think it's dank, so obviously something better, something really dank will cost much more. At least $10 more an eighth.
stinkyattic
08-01-2007, 07:55 PM
If people stopped buying beasters, obviously the demand for something good would arise which in turn would make it more available and at a more reasonable cost.
I'm not sure how obvious that is.
If beasters are grown in large part to be kiefed and processed into hash, which is easily smugglable compared to product, the gangs doing it will keep on doing it even if the demand for beasters (essentially a BYPRODUCT or waste product of hash) drops.
I consider the supply of bud to be somewhat constant. If beasters go away, the supply shrinks, and prices rise accordingly.
The way to get ris of dumb beasters is to legalize so that the supply of bud INCREASES and everyone has access to locals.
horror business
08-01-2007, 08:03 PM
Well, the way I see it, if people take the knowledge from this thread, when they are offered beasters and charged $50 for an 8th, they can say "LOL, I'm not paying 50 for that, it's just beasters, that's not dank." and either get it for a lower price, or simply go to another dealer and get something they like. If everyone would do that, that would be preferable. People would become more educated on good cannabis, and may decide to grow their own top quality cannabis.
It's not as if the market depends on beasters. As my thread stated, beasters is shitty weed that isn't good for anyones health, and a waste of money. Why would anyone want to smoke that? Theres all other varieties of domestically and imported cannabis that aren't beasters. And if that's not good enough for you, then grow your own. But why keep on getting ripped off?
coledog855
08-02-2007, 03:27 AM
No, that really makes no sense whatsoever. The majority of beaster is sold at dank prices. Around 50 an 1/8th. If people stopped buying beasters, obviously the demand for something good would arise which in turn would make it more available and at a more reasonable cost. I honestly don't see how anyone can enjoy smoking it.
People buy it, and think it's dank, so obviously something better, something really dank will cost much more. At least $10 more an eighth.
It's actually pretty simple economics that makes sense to most people. The most basic concept in economics is probably "supply and demand".
I'll try to explain this to you one last time...
...Beasters has it's own share of the marketplace. The price range is on average 40-50 an 8th. The exact numbers don't matter, b/c evertying is relative to your market. Back to the point. Beasters avgs. 40-50. This fits in between mids that cost 30-40 for a quarter, and KB that costs 55-70 for an 8th. You will have a constant amount consumers who spread their money over mids, beast, and KB. The beaster consumers are usually people who want something better than mids, but can't afford KB. This all leads to our current set of prices due to the level of consistant demand in todays market. If you remove beast from the marketplace, then mids and KB will be left. Being as how beast is a very popular type, a gaping hole is left between the other types. Now the demand for mids and KB has risen. Especially for KB since there is no bridge between that and mids. With a rise in demand comes the ability of dealers to raise their prices with no loss in business. Now we are all paying more for KB and mids instantly. There are two roads this will lead to. Either more commercial weed will spring up and the quality will be no better than beasters b/c commercial growers are in the game to make money. OR This doesn't happen and we're stuck paying 60-70 an 8th unless we know the grower.
Most likely, the first will happen. You CANNOT prevent subpar products when a vastly profitable marketplace exists for that product.
If you plan on owning a business one day, you're going to need to know A LOT about economics!
horror business
08-02-2007, 04:22 AM
And I'll try to explain to you one more time: Beasters are SHIT, and mids are better, lol.
Th3 sand m4n
08-02-2007, 04:22 AM
Where im from all people smoke around here is that same fucking beasters in your pics. I have allways told people it sucks ass but everyone thinks its good shit. I personaly agree with you that it sucks ass and just looks like it would be good. But the thing is their is so much beast around where i live that i have been smoking it for a couple of years, and you can get some really good beast but its really really rare. Most of the time the shit is what you were talking about wet.. shitty... leaf infested fools gold. "DUDE LOOK AT ALL THE Orange HAIRS" lmfao i have heard many a noob say that :rastasmoke:
JohnnyII
08-04-2007, 12:54 AM
In the south (where I live) weed is over priced to the point that those buds I showed were resold for 50/8th, but that bridges the gap between mids (30/4th) and headies (60/8th). You can get the beast for 40-50. The market will always exist b/c it does look good and everyone can turn a great profit on it. The pounds guy, ounces guy, and down to the 8ths guy will all turn at least 30 percent returns b/c everyone below the dealer thinks its great, and if they don't they will resale it to someone that does. It's the nature of the beast that is a black market. People will always find ways to rip off each other, so it really doesn't matter how well known this bud is, b/c there's a sucker born every day. And if the Canadian gangs stop growing, then someone else will take their place.
Money runs the world, eveything else takes a back seat, in the long run.
Yeah I live in the South too (Texas, Austin). The stuff in the pics I've seen in this thread makes it look pretty damn good, 8/10 in terms of looks if you ask me. That shit often sells anywhere from $45-60 around the UT area. I haven't seen that type of bud, but I have been offered a choice of beaster nugs from a dealer. He had two different strains, one looked decent, another looked AMAZING (like some of the pics). I asked which one he liked better and he pointed to the not-so-pretty bud. He said for some reason it smoked bad and didn't give you nearly as good of a high. I found it odd that such beautiful buds could turn out so poor.
I can't believe that Texas schwag (which can be pretty damned good) which you can get from 40-60 an ounce depending on who you know, can be better quality than stuff that is seedless, really nice looking, and not compressed. And yes, I've had good schwag that half a bowl gets me high while some good-looking seedless bud takes two bowls for the same effect (although I wasn't buying the bud, I always try before I buy).
deltron
08-04-2007, 05:03 AM
I wish i had the magical power of determining the strain of a bud by looking at pictures of it.
psteve
08-04-2007, 05:39 AM
Here's the deal.
You shouldn't be buying weed from people you don't know. Or at least, know who they are and where to find them.
If someone sells you B'ster, tell them it sucked, and that if they ever sell it to you again without telling you what it is first, your grandchildren will still be pissing on their grave in the next century.
no one is going to "catch on". there will always be a new generation of newbie highschool and college potsmokers who think this stuff is "dank"
Ah yes, I would have to say you are indeed correct. I overlooked that part.
onequestion
08-04-2007, 06:15 AM
Here's the deal.
You shouldn't be buying weed from people you don't know. Or at least, know who they are and where to find them.
If someone sells you B'ster, tell them it sucked, and that if they ever sell it to you again without telling you what it is first, your grandchildren will still be pissing on their grave in the next century.
I would risk seriously getting my ass kicked if idid that. I would just stop buying from him.
horror business
08-05-2007, 06:53 PM
Well, I just thought I'd let you know that last night I bought 6 grams from a brickweed dealer, to hold me over until tomorrow when I get an ounce of some goods, and what do you know? He shows up with EXACT same beasters that I used to get, and everyone else is getting all over the country. At least it wasn't 50 an 8th, it was 40 for 6 grams, so I'm not as pissed about it. I only have about a gram left of it, lol, like I said, it doesn't get you that high... and if you don't smoke more during the comedown, you feel like shit, all drained...
Weedhound
08-05-2007, 06:58 PM
There's an very interesting article about beasters in one of the Cannabibles. Like HB, the author is EXTREMELY against this type of weed. My issue would be in the false advertising.....dont say its one thing when it's really another. But if you DO know exactly what you're buying (and paying appropiately) everyone has their poor mans version of things.
andCarrotRope
08-09-2007, 08:43 AM
oh ive seen it all around washington st, smells just like hay, but to noobies its danky..nothing to special, i think i got an oz for $200 :/
rebgirl420
08-10-2007, 05:53 AM
I think I have fucking beasters! WTF I just smoked 2 bowls and im not even buzzed! The bud is normal green and has red mixed in.....
bluntblaze
08-10-2007, 06:40 AM
There's an very interesting article about beasters in one of the Cannabibles. Like HB, the author is EXTREMELY against this type of weed. My issue would be in the false advertising.....dont say its one thing when it's really another. But if you DO know exactly what you're buying (and paying appropiately) everyone has their poor mans version of things.
like soap here in britain. £20 a 1/2oz... £130 for 4 and a 1/2oz.. and £200 for 9oz(the prices round my way)... people buy it because its cheap although haven't seen any for a good few months so i dunno if its still going about.
Dntel
08-10-2007, 06:54 AM
yeah i got some one time that had salt all over it too. i hate that shit.
horror business
08-11-2007, 12:06 AM
I just got .6 grams of the exact same batch of beasters as the pictures I initially posted from a completely different dealer.
I bought an 8th from the Nirvana Indoor Mix, (didn't know what strain, but it could be any from the indoor mix) and he was supposed to give me 10 dollars in change, but didn't have it, so instead gave me .6 of the beasters that he was also selling.
He was selling the beasters for $50, and what I got for $70. What I got smells like no other, I'm about to smoke it, but I had to update this, because I got the same beasters. This time it's dry though. I asked him how much I could get an ounce for, and he said "$350". It's a little pricey, especially for this, but if I tried I could probably turn it into $500. But I don't want to contribute to the Vietnamese gangs in Canada. (and not get high) Well, I packed a one hitter of the beasters which I'm going to smoke before I smoke the Nirvana Mix 8th. It smells extremely fruity.
horror business
08-11-2007, 12:09 AM
UPDATE: Just took two hits of the same beasters, but from a different dealer, and just like always, no flavor what so ever. If you want to know what it tastes like, take an empty bowl, and take a hit using a lighter. That's what it tastes like. Nothing.
I won't know if it will get me high since I'm about to pack a bowl of some real stuff, which will.
UPDATE: I must admit I am feeling more high than I was before I smoked the beasters (I had finished my last joint of high-mids about an hour ago). Perhaps it's because this time the weed is actually dry, that I'm high, but never the less it still has no flavor whatsoever, and I like my weed to have a taste.
PdoubleOTY
08-11-2007, 02:24 AM
raleigh has been seeing this stuff quite a bit. my main guy sells quite a bit of it,but has lately started buying quality headies...usually the beasters gets me high, i mean it has a weed taste to it, but its not a funky sticky weed taste..its like a soggy plant taste and the high usually isnt my favorite...hopefully things will start to change
I think I have fucking beasters! WTF I just smoked 2 bowls and im not even buzzed! The bud is normal green and has red mixed in.....
Well, there's no doubt reb knows how to hit a pipe, so I'm positive you've been stricken with a case of the BEASTERS!! AHH! :cursing:
Stealth331
08-11-2007, 02:49 AM
I am in north central MA and came across the SAME looking stuff last year.
Look absolutely tremendous BUT was wet and smelled like freshly cut grass.
Didn't do a thing for me...NOTHING
I am assuming it wasn't cured properly and I told my buddy that. Told him it was a damned shame that someone could grown such nice looking nuggets and not know how to finish them off.
Anyway....I wouldn't take anymore if it were given to me.
I am in north central MA and came across the SAME looking stuff last year.
Look absolutely tremendous BUT was wet and smelled like freshly cut grass.
Didn't do a thing for me...NOTHING
I am assuming it wasn't cured properly and I told my buddy that. Told him it was a damned shame that someone could grown such nice looking nuggets and not know how to finish them off.
Anyway....I wouldn't take anymore if it were given to me.
Stealth, the only thing they care about is making money. Not all dealers, but those who distribute this depraved cannabis. Well, no use getting all bent out of shape about it.
Stealth331
08-14-2007, 02:59 AM
Stealth, the only thing they care about is making money. Not all dealers, but those who distribute this depraved cannabis. Well, no use getting all bent out of shape about it.
I agree...I bit the bullet but refused more.
I think I actually gave it away.
Oh well...??
I don't even want the schwag I have right now...:puke:
Not worth taking the time to wrap it.
:(
BuddhaBless
08-16-2007, 04:33 AM
i have some of this, i dont know if the pic quality is enough for you to tell.
beaster? please no please no please no.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/8/29/193050/dankkk.jpg
horror business
08-17-2007, 11:10 AM
Kind of hard to tell. It looks a lighter green than the current batch going around, but that could just be lighting. To be sure if you have this current batch, you only have to follow a few simple steps.
1. Does it resemble the pictures that I (and others) have posted? In real life if you have had beasters, you will recognize it instantly. It's unmistakable.
Now, after following that step, you can rule it out being beasters if it has any of the following:
a smell
a taste
if it burns properly to a light gray-white ash (normally it burns black/very dark grey)
a high grade high (if you've never experienced real dank, you won't know)
a nice comedown
You will know instantly if it's this batch by being disappointed. Sure, it looks good, so you would assume it must be pretty good right? You'd expect it to taste like dank weed. Have a pungent smell when you open the bag or the container it's in. But no matter how large the amount, there is no smell.
I can see this being beneficial for the ones exporting it, and for those importing it themselves. Who knows what they do to achieve this. Seriously, buds are supposed to have a smell, especially big fat pretty buds, but no... just a faint hay smell.
ganjzilla
08-17-2007, 12:01 PM
wow that shit is still floating around...i had some like that at the end of my last semester of school...which had to be like may 20 something and its still out there damn....
demonicronz
08-20-2007, 12:54 AM
BEASTERS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nor cal dont need that shit!!
jimmy!
08-21-2007, 05:58 PM
beasters have nothing to do with quality all they refer to is mass produced weed from canada.
Beasters usually look dank and some can get you as high as lower chronic and others get you high as schwag. The most recent beasters i smoked got me more high than I was smoking out of upper mids, which i both smoked out of my bong.
But from previous times i smoked beasters i have disappoints and few other times where i blazed out of my mind. Thats why i smoke beasters when my friends buy and have already tried because i do not trust it.
modest moon
08-21-2007, 07:03 PM
wow, just saw this thread and holy shit....me and 2 of my buds at school would pay $90/quarter for this...and we first thought "wow, this is gunna be sick, 2-3 hits and we're done"....3 bowls later we were left scratchin our heads.
nice to know what the problem was.
stinkyattic
08-21-2007, 07:05 PM
There's good Canadian commercial that we refer to as 'Nooks' around here in MA.
The Beasters in question cross the border ALREADY kiefed- it's not the US dealers doing it.
Nooks are NEVER kiefed off; they still retain the right level of crystals on the outer surfaces of the buds, and tend to have a richer smell than Beasters.
JohnnyII
09-15-2007, 09:55 PM
Beasters seem like a rip off, especially for the price people charge for them ($40-50) for an eighth. If people are living in the South part of the US I'm sure they can find a good deal on some outdoor sinsemilla (what I call mids) that tastes like non-fertilized weed and gets you pretty high after a bowl for a much cheaper price. I've bought beasters before that were pretty good, but it seems like there is some sort of massive rip-off going on in the states according to this thread.
trainwreck530
09-15-2007, 10:38 PM
well here in northern california we dont have the whole 'beasters' thing. but im definetely familiar with it, ive been to chicago and all over. yeah dude, that sucks when you get some chemically produced shit that looks 'ok' i can tell by those pics that the buds are fried. i feel sorry for smokers who live in a cannabis nonfriendly area. 350$/oz for that?!? holy s*** i can get an ounce of the TOP NOTCH for 3-, but thats still a little pricey for me. hey man i have smoked some green brick weed that laid me out-LATE
hiroshi_87
11-10-2007, 09:01 AM
Definitely not Canada's fault, I'm not ignorant enough to blame one problem on the whole country like the war seems to do, and the majority of american's view on the middle east. Not all are terrorists, just like not all people who live in America agree with the government,lol a majority don't.
Yeah, the comedown sucks on this current massive "batch". Luckily I haven't bought it in over a month. Just actual dank :rasta:
Yeah, this is definitely not Canada's fault... you're right. Its the fucking triads here who mass produce this garbage for domestic use and export.
Although it isn't called pretendica, or beasters... this bunk-ass weed is known around here as Toronto Hydro...
Toronto Hydro (marijuana) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Hydro_%28marijuana%29)
I've had more than my fair share of experience with this shit... it circulates around the GTA (Greater Toronto Area) constantly, mostly grown in the local suburbs, like my hometown of Mississauga. This stuff is absolute garbage. It will get complete noob kids high, which is why it seems to be such a big hit with the high school crowd here.
I had to, in extreme dry periods at school, smoke this trash, and also make it available to others. I felt terrible letting people smoke this crap, but thats why I distributed it for dirt cheap.
I always thought this stuff originated in Ontario, but I don't know about the quality of weed destined for American export in B.C. The weed that I've had the opportunity to smoke from B.C. has always been dank-ass shit... never trash. Like you said, don't judge Canadian weed by the shit that gets exported. Ontario and B.C. grow some of the finest buds around... you just need to know where to find it. Anything that's destined for export is going to usually be mass-produced garbage.
dominionxp
11-10-2007, 11:58 PM
this sounds dumb... its not mass produced
Kronic King
11-11-2007, 02:22 AM
hey im from canada too and i used to see that shit every single day at my school until some real hook ups came...smells kinda like a lil leather, and does absolutely nothing but give you a slight buzz then a burnout
2stoned420
11-11-2007, 03:55 AM
alot of the bud i get is grown by the vietnamese and its all really good at good prices 120-160 an oz ,but if u guys are willing to pay 50 an eighth for UNFLUSHED pot ,then no wonder they do it .One more thing is they dont actually kief it , its like that at harvest trust me i know im from bc ,they have no reason to kief it when u guys are paying 50 an eighth for it
dominionxp
11-12-2007, 12:24 AM
this is a dumb thread.. and horror business, u dont know wut ur talking about
Brand
11-12-2007, 12:47 AM
Ok,a few years ago I took a vacation to California,on the greyhound,and I had a 2 hour layover in San Francisco.I didn't bring any herbs with me on the trip,and I really wanted to score some Good California dank.Well,I hung out around the bus station,and kinda asked around,and some crack head dude whipped out a bag of some fire looking herbs.He said it was Humbolts finest,and he would sell me an eight for 60 bucks.I was like hell yeah,that shit looks dank.So anyways,I found a ally,and whipped out the bag.ok,first of all I noticed it didn't have a smell at all,nada.So I preceded to roll up a small joint of the shit,and from the first toke,I noticed a horrible sulphur taste,and by then I knew I'd been had.As bad as it was,I smoked the whole joint,and Got nothing at all from it.I mean,I didn't even get a mild buzz,nothing whatsoever.I was so pissed,and I thought maybe it was some creeper,so I rolled another small one,and I still was totally sober.Here is my opinion on the whole thing,it's not cannabis at all,it's those legal herbs,made to look like real weed.I mean,if it was remotely real cannabis,you'd at least get a mild buzz,or something,you know?The moral of the story is,don't buy herbs from random crack heads on the streets of San Fran,and if it doesn't smell,or tastes like sulphur,it ain't real herbs.I'm glad I saw this post,because I never have forgotten getting ripped off on that trip,several years back.PEACE
DurbanStone
11-12-2007, 12:57 AM
I'm from Toronto, and that stuff is always around. Hate it. However there is stuff that looks just like it that's good.
Brand
11-12-2007, 01:03 AM
Ok,I just checked out the monster smoke shop.com,on this site,and those fake buds they offer look exactly like what I got in California.Check out the blueberry stuff,looks like good dank buds.I believe people are buying that shit,and selling it as real buds.If offered to you in a dark lit area,in the bag,you wouldn't be able to tell.And even in a well lit area,that looks like real herbs.So i believe that's most deff what I got in California.Do you guys think it's actual real herbs that those dealers are selling,or the fake "legal" herbs?
BluBerrywidow
11-12-2007, 05:10 AM
that crap is grown in T dot i think im from sw ont its everywhere, we call that shit nipp weed cuz nips grow it lol
MadSativa
11-12-2007, 05:12 AM
^^^^ what the fuk is a nip??
flanders
11-13-2007, 04:44 AM
yeah, over the summer i bought a 1/2 of "kush" for 150 (wisconsin), shit didn't get anyone i know high, or myself.. now when i buy bud, i bring my bowl and test it out, id rather waste 5 bucks on a bowl then 50 on an eigth..
Brownbomber420
11-21-2007, 04:23 AM
the weed i have right now sucks it dont look as good as that but it crackled when i smoked it and the ashes are black and look like a ball of tar. shitty weed.
CultureCherryPopper
11-21-2007, 04:43 AM
Beasters is actually a term bud that comes from a strain of weed called M-39 that is actually fairly potent. The name Beasters was applied to this type of weed because it is often harvested far too early; that explains the lack of high, or draining effect you describe. It is created solely for mass-production, so it is also handled a lot. I have come across this bud before; it is highly identifiable by its looks and the fact that it does crackle. At first I thought it was because of ferts and nutes, but now I know better. Avoid this weed at all costs, unless you wanna try and land some seeds for the future and raise the strain as it should be.
horror business
12-04-2007, 04:36 PM
I'm still trying to get to the bottom of what strain this actually is. I have heard it is M39. I don't know if this is true because I've smoked real homegrown M39. It smelled sweet and had big calyxs covered in trichomes, and it got me pretty stoned. Now obviously it was grown until maturity and flushed, harvested, and cured properly which makes a difference, but compared to the beasters that are apparently M39, I noticed no resemblance to the real M39. M39 is Skunk #1 x Northern Lights #5 by the way.
Now, apparently this strain of beasters is harvested around 40 days. I've heard from real growers that have grown real M39 that it can be picked so early because it bulks up so quickly but it is not really ready until around 77 days. If this beasters strain IS m39, that would make sense on why it sucks, and why it's just a bunch of red hairs and no large calyxs.
I've also heard that the strain is BC Big Bud. This would make sense considering the beasters buds are usually very huge and dense.
I've also heard its BC Biker Bud, or Fresland.
Perhaps someone from Toronto can shed some light on the actual strain of that shit that's been being exported to the U.S. for the past few years.
coledog855
12-04-2007, 06:45 PM
I'm still trying to get to the bottom of what strain this actually is. I have heard it is M39. I don't know if this is true because I've smoked real homegrown M39. It smelled sweet and had big calyxs covered in trichomes, and it got me pretty stoned. Now obviously it was grown until maturity and flushed, harvested, and cured properly which makes a difference, but compared to the beasters that are apparently M39, I noticed no resemblance to the real M39. M39 is Skunk #1 x Northern Lights #5 by the way.
Now, apparently this strain of beasters is harvested around 40 days. I've heard from real growers that have grown real M39 that it can be picked so early because it bulks up so quickly but it is not really ready until around 77 days. If this beasters strain IS m39, that would make sense on why it sucks, and why it's just a bunch of red hairs and no large calyxs.
I've also heard that the strain is BC Big Bud. This would make sense considering the beasters buds are usually very huge and dense.
I've also heard its BC Biker Bud, or Fresland.
Perhaps someone from Toronto can shed some light on the actual strain of that shit that's been being exported to the U.S. for the past few years.
I've had 7 gram nugs and seen up to 14 gram nugs, so no matter what it has to be a strain that will grow very rapidly with extreme density well before harvest time. If you can get in touch with SubCool, then he can probably solve the mystery for you.
horror business
12-05-2007, 10:44 AM
I've heard from a Toronto Grower that the Vietnamese grow the M39 (the red haired weed), and the bikers grow the other lighter green beasters.
He claims they pick it at 6 weeks, and that's why it sucks. He claims when he grows the same clone, he lets it go for 8-9 weeks and it doesn't suck.
Like I said, I've heard from real (not commercial) growers that M39 produces huge buds fast, but isn't really ready until 8-9 weeks, even though it will have huge buds by week 6.
However, I've also heard that the strain is actually a cross of M39 and BC Big Bud. Like coledog855 said, it has to be a strain that will grow very rapidly with extreme density well before harvest time. I too have had extremely large buds up to 12 grams.
I want to solve this mystery, because I want to grow this strain the right way. Why? Because I believe it has a lot of potential. The reason it sucks, is because it's harvested at week 6 of flowering, it isn't flushed, harvested, or cured properly. Nevertheless it produces huge buds.
Well, imagine doing it the right way. I'm sure it would be a nice smoke.
coledog855
12-06-2007, 12:43 AM
I've heard from a Toronto Grower that the Vietnamese grow the M39 (the red haired weed), and the bikers grow the other lighter green beasters.
He claims they pick it at 6 weeks, and that's why it sucks. He claims when he grows the same clone, he lets it go for 8-9 weeks and it doesn't suck.
Like I said, I've heard from real (not commercial) growers that M39 produces huge buds fast, but isn't really ready until 8-9 weeks, even though it will have huge buds by week 6.
However, I've also heard that the strain is actually a cross of M39 and BC Big Bud. Like coledog855 said, it has to be a strain that will grow very rapidly with extreme density well before harvest time. I too have had extremely large buds up to 12 grams.
I want to solve this mystery, because I want to grow this strain the right way. Why? Because I believe it has a lot of potential. The reason it sucks, is because it's harvested at week 6 of flowering, it isn't flushed, harvested, or cured properly. Nevertheless it produces huge buds.
Well, imagine doing it the right way. I'm sure it would be a nice smoke.
Good luck getting a hold of the seeds. I'd imagine that most that you'd find (which isn't much) would be immature.
horror business
12-06-2007, 06:45 PM
No. For one, if it is M-39, then that is a common strain. Sensi Seeds sells Shiva Skunk and it's the same thing (Skunk 1 x Northern Lights 5).
I'm not planning on growing bagseed from beasters, I'm planning on getting either seeds or a cutting.
horror business
12-06-2007, 06:51 PM
By the way, I just got confirmation that the popular strain that we are seeing everywhere is indeed M-39 produced in Ontario by the Vietnamese but not exclusively. It's extremely popular with them and is grown by many and turns out the same via it being a cutting, and the growers all follow a specific formula as far as nutrients.
dominionxp
12-06-2007, 08:17 PM
By the way, I just got confirmation that the popular strain that we are seeing everywhere is indeed M-39 produced in Ontario by the Vietnamese but not exclusively. It's extremely popular with them and is grown by many and turns out the same via it being a cutting, and the growers all follow a specific formula as far as nutrients.u dont know wut ur talking about.. STFU
dominionxp
12-06-2007, 08:23 PM
By the way, I just got confirmation that the popular strain that we are seeing everywhere is indeed M-39 produced in Ontario by the Vietnamese but not exclusively. It's extremely popular with them and is grown by many and turns out the same via it being a cutting, and the growers all follow a specific formula as far as nutrients.also, the only reason why this bud is being mass produced because its ready to smoke in 6 weeks.. not because they dont care, but because it takes so short to grow and its mass produced, so just stfu and stop complaining.
horror business
12-09-2007, 02:18 AM
u dont know wut ur talking about.. STFU
Actually I do know what I'm talking about. I don't state things that I don't know or speculation. You need to chill out, learn how to spell, and smoke a joint.
ksmoker
12-09-2007, 02:42 AM
yo dominion they do pack those buds with nutes, and it is for the money so you STFU
smokealot123
12-09-2007, 02:47 AM
jd1sttimer, shhhh.
wtf shh why, yes bleap out the possible information might be helpfull. lol.:thumbsup:
Algag
12-09-2007, 04:59 PM
I picked up O of beasters a few weeks back. It was in vacuum bag and not quite cured fully, still a bit wet. Other than that, it was the best aroma I had ever gotten and best taste I had ever smoked. I personally loved it and wish I had some pics. Paid 250.
stinkyattic
12-09-2007, 05:29 PM
If it has an excellent aroma and taste, it's not Beasties. Not all BC-grown herb sucks... :D
Beasters refers to a SPECIFIC type of product that has been a) harvested early and b) mishandled in some way during processing. This can be packing wet, not curing, and even kiefing off.
bondstreet
12-09-2007, 10:08 PM
Hey guys just weighing in on the subject the way things are done up there is by a rating scale the bottom of the barrel is rated A then it gets progresivly better up to AAA from there it goes into exotics belive it or not canada does mass produce some exotic and high grade weed for export. judging by the picture it looks like single A grade beasters. If you are getting that now ask who ever you are getting it from to get you some lemon lime or some freezeland. he or she will know what you are talking about or someone up the line can ask for it. its much better quality and shouldnt be that much more out of pocket.By the way its silly to think that all the beast is produced by vietnamise gangs sounds like a article i read somewhere. peace
ebsters
12-09-2007, 10:08 PM
i see way to much of these sooo call beasters.
i don't buy them. One of the main reasons i decided to start to grow my own. I don't get high off it, its super harsh, doesn't taste that great, usually wet.
Now i enjoy much better pot, which is dry and fluffy, burns great, and gets me SMACKED.
I rather smoke the resin of the pot i have now, rather than the beasters.
OHIOGOTPURPLEKUSH
12-10-2007, 12:42 AM
Damn I just of a ounce of BEASTERS! it looks real good? However I payed 325 for it.The reason I paid so much for it was becuase I couldn't find anything else.It's ok bud, but I have had better.
bud luv
12-10-2007, 01:05 AM
Umm... how does that weed look good? That weed looks like crap. Of course it doesn't get you that high.
bud luv
12-10-2007, 01:06 AM
I picked up O of beasters a few weeks back. It was in vacuum bag and not quite cured fully, still a bit wet. Other than that, it was the best aroma I had ever gotten and best taste I had ever smoked. I personally loved it and wish I had some pics. Paid 250.
Wet and uncured... and it was the best smoke you ever had?
I'm spoiled.. lol
smokealot123
12-10-2007, 03:53 AM
i feal sorry for all the peoples weed that is laced:(
The Dude Of Life
12-10-2007, 04:14 AM
Only way i can cop a high off of beasters is if i throw it in the bong, ive had beasters many many times, but i dont buy it anymore, its just too much dank bud around to fuck with shitty bud.
MoFayah
12-10-2007, 08:41 AM
that succs
Algag
12-10-2007, 09:02 AM
Wet and uncured... and it was the best smoke you ever had?
I'm spoiled.. lol
Not quite cured, and a bit wet yes, don't over exaggerate it. It had a unique taste and smell, I wish I could put a name to it, but I loved it. It also smoked very smooth. And yes we don't exactly get the best of the best here in little RI
Algag
12-10-2007, 10:17 AM
Came across a pic on my digital, but not great quality sorry.
SFGurrilla
12-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Is beaters even a strain I have always been curious. Where do you get seeds for nugs that are so dense a half O look like a small quarter.
Love2Chief
12-10-2007, 11:02 PM
Ive never came up on any beasters, i dont thinks so atleast.. how would i even know if it was?
OHIOGOTPURPLEKUSH
12-11-2007, 01:07 AM
Only way i can cop a high off of beasters is if i throw it in the bong, ive had beasters many many times, but i dont buy it anymore, its just too much dank bud around to fuck with shitty bud.
Bro are in OHIO? I see the flag on your screen.Their is no good bud here, youmust be one of the lucky ones.
bogoljub777
12-11-2007, 03:58 AM
lol...this is fucking classic.
dude, its a good theroy. the "beesters" you show is all the same, on the east coast. it comes through and perhaps is grown in quebec. bloc de quebecois!!!!! : )
unfortunatley..... that isnt the beesters we get here. the beesters we get here is dryer, and has more throughly formed buds.
nice buds, but dry as hell and not that potent. in arizona.
dominionxp
12-11-2007, 04:49 AM
WARNING: horror business bitches about everything. bud is bud, if u dont like the bud u got, dont fucking buy the "beasters" again, simple as that.
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