Bad argument

[onequestion]

Does anybody else here hate the argument that weed is good because its natural? It makes no sense it just makes people think ur stupid. I mean poison ivy is natural but you dont see people rubbing it all over their skin on purpose.

[Spoken Word]

yea i know what you mean.. like kat william says "if you just so happen to light it on fire" lol
I just see it as a fuckin plant, so that's why I say that. If poison ivy made you high, im sure people would be spreading it over their bodies or worse... smoking it.

and what about if poison ivy had medicinal purposes, like weed?

[psteve]

poison ivy is natural but you dont see people rubbing it all over their skin on purpose.On the other hand, nobody is going to get blistering hives from cannabis.

[Divestoned]

doctors and scientist use alot of otherwise lethal/poisonous substances for medical purposes. therefor we can conclude that many things are "good becouse it's natural"

Dive:stoned:

[onequestion]

But the argument its god because its natural is stupid. Natural does not equal good at all. Something being natural is completely irrelevant when talking about healthy or not healthy.

[Frivolous248]

Agreed.

Theres plenty of natural things that are bad for you, fortunately weed is not one of them.

[BlAzInIt4:20]

their are good and bad plants out their. You are only comparing to one plant out of all of the plants. The idea saying its gods green earth is just saying he created it, out of all the other plants, and this plant everyone likes.

and im not religious, i just look at the word god as in whatever created us. whatever the answer is... not just a one man thing..

[4twentE]

Yes I do hate that argument. Weed it good because it has THC. That's it. Plain and simple.

[jokeyjokejoke]

Yeah, weeds good because it gets you high, duh.

[BizzleLuvin]

On the other hand, nobody is going to get blistering hives from cannabis.

ZING!!!
lol. i dont like this arguement either, its something that a newbie would dish out.

[napolitana869]

hemlock is a plant but that will kill you. I think its a weak argument, but its an effective one when used with weak minded people.

[Oneironaut]

"Natural" is one of those buzzwords that people like for irrational reasons. There's a popular delusion that natural things are harmless things, and that synthetic chemicals are inherently unhealthy. Even though lead, arsenic, uranium and cyanide can be found in nature, and our most effective pharmaceutical drugs are synthesized in laboratories.

Just because a product is made of 100% natural ingredients doesn't mean it's any healthier for you. You wouldn't walk into your backyard and just start eating everything natural assuming it's all good for you. You're likely to get very sick doing that.

It is true that cannabis is natural and that cannabis is pretty much harmless, but those two facts are not necessarily related. Synthetic THC is just as harmless if not more so, and cannabis with naturally growing mold on it could cause serious medical problems.

[deadfan420]

While I agree saying that weed is "natural" therefore "good" is a bad and weak argument, let me play devil's advocate for a moment.

I think the argument's suggestion is that marijuana, as an illegal drug, differs from other illegal drugs because it does grow naturally in the environment. I think the argument is used to set it apart from meth, crack and all those other evil drugs.

Right on though, it's a fairly week argument and I would never use it to defend marijuana. But I think the argument is meant to illuminate the idea that weed is not like the other illegal drugs, which are usually manufactured in homemade labs.

[Oneironaut]

Cocaine, tobacco, opium and fly agaric also grow naturally. I would consider all of those to be significantly more dangerous than LSD, a purely synthetic drug.

[deadfan420]

Cocaine, tobacco, opium and fly agaric also grow naturally. I would consider all of those to be significantly less dangerous than LSD, a purely synthetic drug.

That pretty much destroys the argument right there. All the ones you mentioned are also highly addictive. I'm not sure about LSD though.

[Oneironaut]

I mistyped (and corrected my post). I meant to say more dangerous. LSD has virtually no negative physiological effects.

[Spoken Word]

Cocaine, tobacco, opium and fly agaric also grow naturally. I would consider all of those to be significantly more dangerous than LSD, a purely synthetic drug.

cocaine grows naturally??? i don't think so... I'm not a crack head or anything but I'm pretty sure it does not grow like that.
Coca is the plant where cocaine comes from (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca)

and heroin(and many other drugs) also comes from opium poppy(a plant) but like cocaine, it is processed and cut with other chemicals... unlike weed.. where i believe it's supposed to be a trimming, drying and curing process......which is natural

[onequestion]

I pretty sure they have to do something to the poppy to turn it into opium. And im a 100% sure that something needs to be doen to cocain.

[Maggz]

Does anybody else here hate the argument that weed is good because its natural? It makes no sense it just makes people think ur stupid. I mean poison ivy is natural but you dont see people rubbing it all over their skin on purpose.

It's a natural medicene and pain killer. Nothing's wrong with that arguement..shit I'd choose a natural herb like cannabis over prescription drugs any day.

[cannabis campbell]

Yep.. i hate it but at the end of the day we just have to let the small-minded people think what they like! because they are stupid

[Maggz]

Hey guys be careful with what you say about OTHER DRUGS.. I got banned for 1 month straight because of it

[cannabis campbell]

WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION!

[zino11]

what they should argue is that it has not been chemically altered or have any chemicals added I think thats what there tryin to get at when they say "natural"

[Matt the Funk]

The only safe drugs are natural AKA shrooms and cannabis. Actually a few other drugs are natural and safe too, but I don't want to mention them incase I get an infraction. The arguement that it's natural makes sense when you compare it to other drugs.

[Oneironaut]

cocaine grows naturally??? i don't think so... I'm not a crack head or anything but I'm pretty sure it does not grow like that.
Coca is the plant where cocaine comes from (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca)
The coca plant contains the chemical cocaine in its natural form. Cocaine is just as natural as tetrahydrocannabinol. You don't need to specially prepare it to get the cocaine out. The Incans used to just chew the leaves and they got a coke buzz for when they needed to climb a tall mountain, go on a hunt, or maintain stamina on the battlefield.

and heroin(and many other drugs) also comes from opium poppy(a plant) but like cocaine, it is processed and cut with other chemicals...unlike weed.. where i believe it's supposed to be a trimming, drying and curing process......which is natural
Lots of people smoke straight opium though, with no more manipulation than we're doing to our weed. You don't need to process it into heroin or morphine, but you can.