Guys I am so depressed right now I need help with something URGENT

[Spikedjester]

Alright so I am 17 to start things off and a senior in high school this next year. A while back I was with my friend when he got rolled for bud but I didnt get any charges but my parents knew I smoked and I told them about it and stuff. I posted a thread a while back about it but anyway. Even before that incident, I had some pretty bad back aches, and have been to the chiropractor and he said that my muscles in my back werent that strong and also I had some kind of genetic bone problem in my hip that caused pain. I explained to my parents all about bud and how it is medicine not an illicit drug. And I gave em sources and information the whole 9 yards. My parents never were like super dissapointed in me but dissaproved of cannabis and still do. They said they are going to randomly drug test me. They haven't drug tested me yet, but I think they are serious about doing it because one night I was going out and they said I had to take a drug test before I went out, but since my dad had made me late I explained how I didn't have time. They haven't tried to test me since and they always say I am "acting" a lot better (not because im off weed (which im not) but just in general they can tell I am trying to) My back pains are getting much much worse and I am almost in constant pain all day and its getting unbearable. I would keep blazing and not even care if I got caught but I am buying a truck soon and if they catch me not only would they not let me buy one but if I already bought it they would take it away.

I am so depressed because my neck, back, and hip hurt so bad all day every day and cannabis used to take it all away. I try the more dangerous then bud advil and ibroprofen ect but those help way less and have way worse side effects. I wish there was a way to get them to see its medicine and I need it!

I have only blazed maybe 3 or 4 times in the last month and right now as I am typing this I am in almost unbearable pain. I even have herb on me but I am afraid that they will get me with a drug test.

I looked around for ways to pass drug tests but almost all of them require you know when your drug test is going to be ahead of time. (which I wouldn't because it would be random) And also, the ones that are like synthetic urine ect cost 40 or 50 dollars and up, for one use! I can't be paying that because I am A. Buying a truck, and B. Might need to take multiple tests.

Please please tell me anything I can do to start using herb again, whether it be some way to get a card without consent or to pass drug tests, I am in so much pain right now. =[

[Canuckofithaca]

Dude, thats a bad situation your in. You can pick up a cleansing drink that may work at head shops. If your in so much pain, and pot really is the only thing that takes away the pain, talk to your parents about it. You said that they are not really really anti, so they might be understanding. Talk to your doctor too, he might be able to prescribe some better painkillers

Sorry to hear about your problem dude

[Spikedjester]

Dude, thats a bad situation your in. You can pick up a cleansing drink that may work at head shops. If your in so much pain, and pot really is the only thing that takes away the pain, talk to your parents about it. You said that they are not really really anti, so they might be understanding. Talk to your doctor too, he might be able to prescribe some better painkillers

Sorry to hear about your problem dude

First of all my parents arent so much against it, (though if I had to place them on the scale as either for or against they are definantly against) but they are just ignorant and think anything that is illegal is illegal for a good reason and the government is of course telling the 100% truth on it. They didnt say that but they just don't care, its illegal so its illegal for me to use. Those cleansing drinks require hours. I looked at all of them they are like take 4 or 6 hours before test. Even if I could immediately drink it and be cool maybe when they said they were giving me the drug test i could somehow drink it real fast but there is no product in existence like this. I really really want to blaze.

[Canuckofithaca]

just do it then man, and hold out for the best

and if they test and you fail, tell they why you did it

[wicked]

just buy some of those cleaning drinks just like canuckofithaca said. just buy a few and drink em in the morning?

[Spikedjester]

just buy some of those cleaning drinks just like canuckofithaca said. just buy a few and drink em in the morning?

if only I could choose this as an option, as I recall the drinks are anywhere from 20-30 dollars for one drink? That would be like 100-200 bucks a week.

[FakeBoobsRule]

1) See an orthopedic surgeon and make your parents pay for it.

2) Do some online shopping for Quick Fix, it can be found for cheaper than that sometimes as low as $20-30.

3) Balance the money spent on weed with the money spent on Quick Fix. If you are passing do you really think you are going to be tested that many times a week?

[Spikedjester]

1) See an orthopedic surgeon and make your parents pay for it.

2) Do some online shopping for Quick Fix, it can be found for cheaper than that sometimes as low as $20-30.

3) Balance the money spent on weed with the money spent on Quick Fix. If you are passing do you really think you are going to be tested that many times a week?

No I dont think so but the quick fixes require hours of preperation, which means in theory I would have to use it everyday until I am tested. Say I don't use it one morning and then my parents decide to drug test me later that afternoon, then I am screwed. So yes, I would have to use it everyday, if it was like 5 dollars i would even consider it but I am trying to afford a truck, then of course other things that normal people buy, plus bud, i cant be affording another 150 dollars a week at the age of 17, and yes I even have a job.

[FakeBoobsRule]

Dude, you know the advantage to Quick Fix is a shelf life around 18 months and can be heated and cooled repeated. You would just have to learn to bring the QF to temp and walk around with it all day long. You would probably have to sleep with it then strap it to your leg every morning. Or you could have a heat pad ready to heat it up within 30 minutes to 1 hour.

[wicked]

if only I could choose this as an option, as I recall the drinks are anywhere from 20-30 dollars for one drink? That would be like 100-200 bucks a week.

Damn, you will think of something my friend! If your parents said their going to test you and they havent yet. They might just be saying that to get you to stop...

[Spikedjester]

Dude, you know the advantage to Quick Fix is a shelf life around 18 months and can be heated and cooled repeated. You would just have to learn to bring the QF to temp and walk around with it all day long. You would probably have to sleep with it then strap it to your leg every morning. Or you could have a heat pad ready to heat it up within 30 minutes to 1 hour.

I dont see this as a good alternative because A. the heat it up within 30 minutes method is out of the question cause when they want to test me they will want to test me then. And I cant really be caring it around all day through work, school, gym, showers ect, its just not logical.

[Spikedjester]

Damn, you will think of something my friend! If your parents said their going to test you and they havent yet. They might just be saying that to get you to stop...

I said at first I thought this was the case. But one night I came home and said I wanted to go somewhere and my mom said you are not going anywhere until you get a drug test right now. And im like right now? I dont have time (i said because my dad had already made me late, which he had) and shes like alright (because she realized I would be very late had she kept me behind.

That makes me think they actually do have the kit, plus they have told me they already have it and they dont usually lie too much.

[wicked]

Hmm.. I hope all goes well and you get to smoke bud again!

[FakeBoobsRule]

I dont see this as a good alternative because A. the heat it up within 30 minutes method is out of the question cause when they want to test me they will want to test me then. And I cant really be caring it around all day through work, school, gym, showers ect, its just not logical.

There are many people that walk around with QF all day long. Yes gym would be a pain but you could get around that with careful planing. Where there is a will there is a way. Like I'm sitting here thinking about it and unless gym was the last class if you keep the QF in your pockets all day long it would be close to 90 degrees. Then on the way home move it to your leg. Unless you live 5 minutes from school the ride home would take it the last way to the right temp. I could figure out ways to get around a morning test and well for the time you are at school your parents can't pull you out and test you can they?

Work, same thing. Move from pocket to leg on the way home.

[Spikedjester]

There are many people that walk around with QF all day long. Yes gym would be a pain but you could get around that with careful planing. Where there is a will there is a way. Like I'm sitting here thinking about it and unless gym was the last class if you keep the QF in your pockets all day long it would be close to 90 degrees. Then on the way home move it to your leg. Unless you live 5 minutes from school the ride home would take it the last way to the right temp. I could figure out ways to get around a morning test and well for the time you are at school your parents can't pull you out and test you can they?

Work, same thing. Move from pocket to leg on the way home.

No I mean the gym not at school just like 24 hour fitness. And beyond that the real problem with this idea is look at what a hastle this would be. Where there is a will there is a way no doubt. But that would be almost as big a problem as I have now. Its just... sigh... I wish i could be treated normal, why does the government have to make it their problem I smoke cannabis for help.

[Spikedjester]

I wish everybody could see these lyrics. These are the best lyrics I have ever read

Speak No Evil Lyrics

And I worked so hard to get ahead
Just to fall behind
I've fallen so far behind that i can't see the top
what if I'm afraid, should i be ashamed
or do I work hard to prove that they're wrong

well, i know who i am but i sure don't know you
i sure know your kind, cause there's too many of you
you judgmental eyes seem to speak without words
why you condemn when you don't understand?

why can't you speak the truth?
we speak our minds-fact without fiction
why can't you see the truth?
open your mind, learn for yourself
make up your mind, we know that actions
speak louder than words
why won't you hear the truth?
no one can make up your mind, but you
too many things we think that we don't say
why can't you speak you mind? your poisoned ideas
is what's keeping us back
maybe it is a lack of something called respect
something i wish you had, but never will
well you think that you're better, i think you're wrong
two bull headed people just can't get along
the results of your actions effect everyone
why you condemn when you don't understand
why can't you speak the truth?
we speak our minds-fact without fiction
why can't you see the truth?
open your mind, learn for yourself
make up your mind, we know that actions
speak louder than words
why won't you hear the truth?
no one can make up your mind, but you


what do you guys think, and any more suggestions?

[Spikedjester]

wow no suggestions yet? I am desperate guys.

The thing I have been debating with myself lately is just deciding to start blazing again and if I continue to act really well then maybe they wont test me and if they do end up testing me I think I will just say remember like 3 weeks ago when I was having really bad back pains, and then I will make up some story about how that was my only time blazing since then and I just was finishing up what I had left of the herb since I got rolled. And I will be like the pain hurt so bad and the advil wasnt helping (which is the absolute truth, im dying right now). And then hopefully they will have sympathy on that, because that makes perfect sense... right?

[onequestion]

Cry hysterically adn give them stuff like dont you love me, why cant you let me take my medicine. Theyll give in eventually. Swallow your pride and do it, id hate to see somebody go on without their medicine.

[onequestion]

Do it in the middle of the nihgt and "accidentally" wake them up with all of your loud hysterical crying.

[Spikedjester]

I tell them everyday that my back is killing me and they know its true too because doctors and like i mentioned earlier the chiropractor has said why it happens and what not. But the thing is they think there are better alternatives like advil, they give me two advil every time they can (as said on the bottle every 4 hours or whatever it is) and then they said I should get some rest. I told them I could not get to sleep they offered to give me that sleeping stuff like tylenol pm or whatever im like what the fuck your trying to turn me into a pill popper here but I cant have a little herb that is gonna help so much more then this bs and not have any of the side effects. I hate the government for causing them to be ignorant to the truth.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Sorry to hear about you backpain SpikedJester, I know first-hand what a bitch it can be. I can't remember where I heard it, but I'd suggest mentioning one of my favorite quotes to your parents "Legality is the poorest indicator of morality". After all, slavery was legal once, inter-racial marrage was illegal, just being a homosexual was illegal, oral copulation was illegal, birth control was illegal, alcohol was illegal, and it was illegal for a farmer to refuse growing hemp during WW2 and I think the civil war.


Now as your for you back pain, advil is just LAAAAAAAAAME. You obviously have serious backpain and advil is just too weak, and besides I'd say as far as over-the-counter drugs go acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibeprophen (motrin for example) are better. You may want to get some Tylenol-3 with codein, or even better some Tramadol which is much stronger yet considerably less potential for addiction. Constipation is pretty common with opiod analgesics though, but that can be circumvented pretty well by eating dried apricots or prunes. I'd suggest the prunes, even though they taste like crap, 'cause apricots can make you gassy.

You'll also want to get an ice pack and ice the sore parts of you back 10-15 minutes (for the inflamation), then follow up with a hot bath (for the muscle tension). Make sure you do it in that order.
In the meantime take about 3,000mg Vitamin-C with 400IU Vitamin-E per day, this will help with the tissue repair. I know that's way more vitamin-c than normally recommended, but I've researched the issue and the recommended dose of VC is based merely on enough to avoid scurvey. You can consume massive amounts of it safely, it's almost as non-toxic as THC. Though exceeding 12 grams can lead to diarhea in some people.
Also, try to remember to keep your breathing slow and deep, that'll help with the muscle tension, pain, and emotional stability.

If you still want to make the case to your parents about weed, I'd challenge them to actually do some research from unbiased, scientific sources, and point out a few key facts including:

1. It's one of the least toxic substances known to man, and nobody has ever died of an overdose.

2. All the original reasons for which it was made illegal have been disproven. Henry Anslinger himself, the man who spearheaded prohibition, claimed it "made respectable white women have relations with colored men. It causes completely abd irreparable insanity, uncontrolable impulses to commit murder, and is why the mexicans are all crazy"

3. It has zero neurotoxicity. This means it will not kill brain cells. The reason for short-term memory impairment is because cannabinoids (primarily in low-tolerance users) clog up memory-receptors in the hypocampus and thus block the signals. After 30 days of abstinence, this normally clears out 100%.

4. THC has incredibly potent anti-cancer properties, possibly moreso than any substance known to man. There has yet to be a single reported case of lung-cancer arising from cannabis use alone. It also shrinks tumors, suppresses cancerous growth, and destroys cancerous glioma cells in the brain.


And to back it all up, along with a large quantity of other information, here's my collection of cannabis studies to use as you please.

MMJ Studies - Clinical Studies and Case Reports (http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/study.php)
Large Study Finds No Link between Marijuana and Lung Cancer: Scientific American (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0002491F-755F-1473-B55F83414B7F0000)

Marijuana May Fight Lung Tumors, Cannabis Compound Slows Cancer Spread In Mice, Researchers Say - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/17/health/webmd/main2696726.shtml)

Carcinogen Content: Erowid Cannabis Vault : Info on Smoke composition (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info3.shtml)

http://www.kansan.com/stories/2006/oct/11/marijuana/?news


http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-10-05T204107Z_01_N05247208_RTRUKOC_0_US-MARIJUANA.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C5-healthNews-3


Cannabis and the Brain: A User's Guide by Paul Armentano (http://www.lewrockwell.com/armentano-p/armentano-p10.htm)


Journal - Issue 3-4 The Body's Own Cannabinoid System (http://www.cannabishealth.com/site/issue-3-4/issue-3-4-the-bodys-own-cannabinoid-system.html) (general physiological information)


e.Peak (31/10/2005) news: science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth (http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/2005-3/issue9/ne-mj.html)


truth: the Anti-drugwar The "Dangers" of Marijuana (http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/nutshell-marijuana.htm)


Marijuana Health Mythology (http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth5)


Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults -- Fried et al. 166 (7): 887 -- Canadian Medical Association Journal (http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/166/7/887)


Marijuana As Medicine?: (http://www.nap.edu/books/0309065313/html/)


House of Lords - Science and Technology - Ninth Report (http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199798/ldselect/ldsctech/151/15101.htm)


Cannabis Freedom Activist Network's Guide To Cannabis Research (http://www.freedomactivist.net/cannabisresearch.html#cannabidiol)


Europe: Study: Marijuana Slows Alzheimer's Decline (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n307/a10.html)


MARIJUANA MYTHS (http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html)


Jack Herer - Chapters (http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html)


cannabisnews.com: Study: Pot Helps Hepatitis Treatment (http://cannabisnews.com/news/22/thread22154.shtml)


Marijuana Myths/Marijuana Facts (http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/mjtruth.htm)


Physiological Effects of Cannabis Consumption (http://www.whitman.edu/biology/Stuproj/YoungB/physio.html)


Cannabis Facts for Canadians (http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/)


The Sun Online - News: I'm 120 but my joints are OK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006560113,00.html)


Effects of chronic marijuana use on testosterone, ...[Drug Alcohol Depend. 1991] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1935564&query_h1=1)


Cannabinoids Research Articles and recent Cannabinoid Abstracts (http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php?customernumber=781160420367400&pr=Oc06_Oncology)


Energy Citations Database (ECD) - - Document #5164483 (http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=5164483)


Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer (http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer)


Marijuana Unlikely to Cause Cancer (http://www.webmd.com/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikely-to-cause-cancer)


ScienceDaily: University Of Toronto Study Shows Marijuana Not A Factor In Driving Accidents (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990325110700.htm)


ScienceDaily: No 'Smoking' Gun: Research Indicates Teen Marijuana Use Does Not Predict Drug, Alcohol Abuse (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061204123422.htm)


Marijuana Research Archives: April 2007. (http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/4/)

[Adrenaline Rush]

You can always purchase of one those fake pee test passers. I'm not sure what the name is exaclty, but i'm sure you can find it all over the internet. It's a device to help you pass drug tests. My brother bought one in San Jose, CA after trying to pass a drug test for a new employer. You wrap it around your waist underneath your clothing and it has 2 small puches on the side with some liquid that looks like pee. You simply snap one of the small hoses and the liquid starts pouring out ala pee. You are going to want to hold the tip off the hose to your zipper as if you are going to pee. The liquid has a powder in which will reuqire you to shake minutes before the drug test so that the liquid will be warm once it comes out.

[Spikedjester]

Sorry to hear about you backpain SpikedJester, I know first-hand what a bitch it can be. I can't remember where I heard it, but I'd suggest mentioning one of my favorite quotes to your parents "Legality is the poorest indicator of morality". After all, slavery was legal once, inter-racial marrage was illegal, just being a homosexual was illegal, oral copulation was illegal, birth control was illegal, alcohol was illegal, and it was illegal for a farmer to refuse growing hemp during WW2 and I think the civil war.


Now as your for you back pain, advil is just LAAAAAAAAAME. You obviously have serious backpain and advil is just too weak, and besides I'd say as far as over-the-counter drugs go acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibeprophen (motrin for example) are better. You may want to get some Tylenol-3 with codein, or even better some Tramadol which is much stronger yet considerably less potential for addiction. Constipation is pretty common with opiod analgesics though, but that can be circumvented pretty well by eating dried apricots or prunes. I'd suggest the prunes, even though they taste like crap, 'cause apricots can make you gassy.

You'll also want to get an ice pack and ice the sore parts of you back 10-15 minutes (for the inflamation), then follow up with a hot bath (for the muscle tension). Make sure you do it in that order.
In the meantime take about 3,000mg Vitamin-C with 400IU Vitamin-E per day, this will help with the tissue repair. I know that's way more vitamin-c than normally recommended, but I've researched the issue and the recommended dose of VC is based merely on enough to avoid scurvey. You can consume massive amounts of it safely, it's almost as non-toxic as THC. Though exceeding 12 grams can lead to diarhea in some people.
Also, try to remember to keep your breathing slow and deep, that'll help with the muscle tension, pain, and emotional stability.

If you still want to make the case to your parents about weed, I'd challenge them to actually do some research from unbiased, scientific sources, and point out a few key facts including:

1. It's one of the least toxic substances known to man, and nobody has ever died of an overdose.

2. All the original reasons for which it was made illegal have been disproven. Henry Anslinger himself, the man who spearheaded prohibition, claimed it "made respectable white women have relations with colored men. It causes completely abd irreparable insanity, uncontrolable impulses to commit murder, and is why the mexicans are all crazy"

3. It has zero neurotoxicity. This means it will not kill brain cells. The reason for short-term memory impairment is because cannabinoids (primarily in low-tolerance users) clog up memory-receptors in the hypocampus and thus block the signals. After 30 days of abstinence, this normally clears out 100%.

4. THC has incredibly potent anti-cancer properties, possibly moreso than any substance known to man. There has yet to be a single reported case of lung-cancer arising from cannabis use alone. It also shrinks tumors, suppresses cancerous growth, and destroys cancerous glioma cells in the brain.


And to back it all up, along with a large quantity of other information, here's my collection of cannabis studies to use as you please.

MMJ Studies - Clinical Studies and Case Reports (http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/study.php)
Large Study Finds No Link between Marijuana and Lung Cancer: Scientific American (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0002491F-755F-1473-B55F83414B7F0000)

Marijuana May Fight Lung Tumors, Cannabis Compound Slows Cancer Spread In Mice, Researchers Say - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/17/health/webmd/main2696726.shtml)

Carcinogen Content: Erowid Cannabis Vault : Info on Smoke composition (http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info3.shtml)

http://www.kansan.com/stories/2006/oct/11/marijuana/?news


http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=healthNews&storyID=2006-10-05T204107Z_01_N05247208_RTRUKOC_0_US-MARIJUANA.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C5-healthNews-3


Cannabis and the Brain: A User's Guide by Paul Armentano (http://www.lewrockwell.com/armentano-p/armentano-p10.htm)


Journal - Issue 3-4 The Body's Own Cannabinoid System (http://www.cannabishealth.com/site/issue-3-4/issue-3-4-the-bodys-own-cannabinoid-system.html) (general physiological information)


e.Peak (31/10/2005) news: science: Study shows marijuana increases brain cell growth (http://www.peak.sfu.ca/the-peak/2005-3/issue9/ne-mj.html)


truth: the Anti-drugwar The "Dangers" of Marijuana (http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/nutshell-marijuana.htm)


Marijuana Health Mythology (http://paranoia.lycaeum.org/marijuana/facts/mj-health-mythology.html#myth5)


Current and former marijuana use: preliminary findings of a longitudinal study of effects on IQ in young adults -- Fried et al. 166 (7): 887 -- Canadian Medical Association Journal (http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/abstract/166/7/887)


Marijuana As Medicine?: (http://www.nap.edu/books/0309065313/html/)


House of Lords - Science and Technology - Ninth Report (http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199798/ldselect/ldsctech/151/15101.htm)


Cannabis Freedom Activist Network's Guide To Cannabis Research (http://www.freedomactivist.net/cannabisresearch.html#cannabidiol)


Europe: Study: Marijuana Slows Alzheimer's Decline (http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n307/a10.html)


MARIJUANA MYTHS (http://www.drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html)


Jack Herer - Chapters (http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html)


cannabisnews.com: Study: Pot Helps Hepatitis Treatment (http://cannabisnews.com/news/22/thread22154.shtml)


Marijuana Myths/Marijuana Facts (http://www.csdp.org/publicservice/mjtruth.htm)


Physiological Effects of Cannabis Consumption (http://www.whitman.edu/biology/Stuproj/YoungB/physio.html)


Cannabis Facts for Canadians (http://www.cannabisfacts.ca/)


The Sun Online - News: I'm 120 but my joints are OK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006560113,00.html)


Effects of chronic marijuana use on testosterone, ...[Drug Alcohol Depend. 1991] - PubMed Result (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1935564&query_h1=1)


Cannabinoids Research Articles and recent Cannabinoid Abstracts (http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php?customernumber=781160420367400&pr=Oc06_Oncology)


Energy Citations Database (ECD) - - Document #5164483 (http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/product.biblio.jsp?osti_id=5164483)


Pot Smoking Not Linked to Lung Cancer (http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer)


Marijuana Unlikely to Cause Cancer (http://www.webmd.com/news/20000508/marijuana-unlikely-to-cause-cancer)


ScienceDaily: University Of Toronto Study Shows Marijuana Not A Factor In Driving Accidents (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/03/990325110700.htm)


ScienceDaily: No 'Smoking' Gun: Research Indicates Teen Marijuana Use Does Not Predict Drug, Alcohol Abuse (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061204123422.htm)


Marijuana Research Archives: April 2007. (http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/4/)

Thanks for the help I might even show my parents this post if I ever need to just because you obviously know what your talking about.

I looked at a few of your links and my parents are ignorant, but not completely ignorant. They will agree to look at facts that list references from like universities and doctors and health studies ect. But some of those links had no references and they wouldn't even consider them as truth. Another thing I noticed is a lot of your links bash weed as a danger because of its psychoactive properties. That is my parents biggest issue, they think (because they have obviously never tried it) that it impairs your judgment and thinking just like alcohol. My mom kept comparing it to alcohol just because its always been clumped in there with it and my parents even admitted they don't know much about the drug. So imagine you were someone who grew up all your life not knowing and only hearing its bad dont do it here are facts (what lies the government makes up). And then out of no where you find out your kid does this stuff, I can see why they need hard proof that its not bad for you, they have been brainwashed their whole life. I can't wait for the next few generations. A lot more people are growing up knowing the truth now and soon all the old politicians will be dead and gone. At least things are looking to turn out for the better soon.

[Spikedjester]

You can always purchase of one those fake pee test passers. I'm not sure what the name is exaclty, but i'm sure you can find it all over the internet. It's a device to help you pass drug tests. My brother bought one in San Jose, CA after trying to pass a drug test for a new employer. You wrap it around your waist underneath your clothing and it has 2 small puches on the side with some liquid that looks like pee. You simply snap one of the small hoses and the liquid starts pouring out ala pee. You are going to want to hold the tip off the hose to your zipper as if you are going to pee. The liquid has a powder in which will reuqire you to shake minutes before the drug test so that the liquid will be warm once it comes out.

Even this, when my parents say they want to drug test me they are gonna want to drug test me right there and then on the spot, and as far as I know there is no product that acts immediately. Even something that requires a few minutes before likely would be too much time that I don't have.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

Thanks for the help I might even show my parents this post if I ever need to just because you obviously know what your talking about.

I looked at a few of your links and my parents are ignorant, but not completely ignorant. They will agree to look at facts that list references from like universities and doctors and health studies ect. But some of those links had no references and they wouldn't even consider them as truth. Another thing I noticed is a lot of your links bash weed as a danger because of its psychoactive properties. That is my parents biggest issue, they think (because they have obviously never tried it) that it impairs your judgment and thinking just like alcohol. My mom kept comparing it to alcohol just because its always been clumped in there with it and my parents even admitted they don't know much about the drug. So imagine you were someone who grew up all your life not knowing and only hearing its bad dont do it here are facts (what lies the government makes up). And then out of no where you find out your kid does this stuff, I can see why they need hard proof that its not bad for you, they have been brainwashed their whole life. I can't wait for the next few generations. A lot more people are growing up knowing the truth now and soon all the old politicians will be dead and gone. At least things are looking to turn out for the better soon.


Are you sure they had no referrences? I always make a point of only taking links that have referrences, unless it's strait from a research institution who conducted the research itself. I don't know what you mean about "bashing weed" either, but I try to keep my knowledge-datebase honest, so if there are drawbacks discovered they'll be posted. Just sift through them and save a few that you think will help make your case, and good luck!

[Spikedjester]

Are you sure they had no referrences? I always make a point of only taking links that have referrences, unless it's strait from a research institution who conducted the research itself. I don't know what you mean about "bashing weed" either, but I try to keep my knowledge-datebase honest, so if there are drawbacks discovered they'll be posted. Just sift through them and save a few that you think will help make your case, and good luck!

For example your link about marijuana myths, it still lists a lot of negatives. Now I am not being ignorant to the fact that marijuana has ABSOLUTELY no health risks. But for example one myth was no one ever dies from marijuana, and in the myth it said that you are 30% more likely to injure yourself while you are high. There were a couple things like that, I don't really believe that at all, and my parents would go off on that topic if they saw it, considering thats exactly what they worry about in the first place, and have been told by anti drug campaigns paid for by the government.

[LuckyG]

One thing that will help your back muscles is core strengthening - I know this because I suffered from back pain for years. There's a lot of ways to do it and you can find most of them by Googling. Here's what I use, as recommended by my massage therapist:

Do this every other day, maybe more if you feel you need it. It works especially well when your pain is the most severe. In all the exercises make sure you tuck your butt forward and make sure your spine is straight. Hold each position for 60 seconds (or work your way up until you can hold for 60 seconds) and take a two minute break in between. Make sure you do all four positions in one session - if you don't, you'll regret it later. Remember, know your physical limitations! There is a difference between healthy pain and damaging pain.

1) Lying on your back, lift your legs up so that they aren't touching the floor. You'll need to experiment a bit to find out how far you can extend them and still hold it for the 60 second period. If you want you can lift your head up as well - this will strengthen your neck muscles, but is not necessary.

2) Lie on your side and balance yourself on the sides of your feet (however is most comfortable for you) and your elbow. Your arm from the shoulder to the elbow should be perpendicular to the floor. This position can be tricky to balance in, and at first might be harder on your arms than your core! Don't worry, you'll get used to it. Do this on both your right and left sides.

3) Get on your front as though you are doing push-ups, but instead of supporting yourself on your hands, use your elbows, once again keeping your upper arm perpendicular to the floor. This will probably be the hardest position to maintain - shakes are normal for me.

4) After doing all this, take a minute to stretch your core and relax. You should feel heaps better!

I definitely recommend that anyone with back pain due to muscular problems should try this at least once and see if it helps.

[thcbongman]

I don't want to scare you, but from the sounds of it, you could be experiencing symptoms of testicular cancer. It may surprise you, but the main symptom is testicular cancer is lower-back pain, which infests later to cause tremendous pain, to the point where you can't sit or stand properly.

If you truly feel that much pain you are describing that it's effecting everyday life, don't even see a doctor, take yourself to the ER. It could be anything.

Chiropractors aren't doctors. They can see you are in pain and can do their best to correct it. But not all back-pain is skeletal or muscular.

[Spikedjester]

I don't want to scare you, but from the sounds of it, you could be experiencing symptoms of testicular cancer. It may surprise you, but the main symptom is testicular cancer is lower-back pain, which infests later to cause tremendous pain, to the point where you can't sit or stand properly.

If you truly feel that much pain you are describing that it's effecting everyday life, don't even see a doctor, take yourself to the ER. It could be anything.

Chiropractors aren't doctors. They can see you are in pain and can do their best to correct it. But not all back-pain is skeletal or muscular.

OMG, dude... I posted earlier how i was experiencing major pain in my testicals. Dude im so scared, how am I gonna tell my parents I need to go the ER? Im only 17 isnt that rare, but that could be it im so afraid. =[

[Spikedjester]

I just read about it I am going to tell my parents as soon as they get home, it said if caught in early stages is easy to fix. Guys, I am so so so sad right now. But if it turns out that I have testicular cancer can I get a medical card for that? That would at least be a blessing inside of a curse. =[

[Spikedjester]

Guys I know i have it now I looked at all the signs. It causes infertility in males, I have to bank before. =[ I cant believe this my life is ruined...

[MisterGreen]

oh my god man i'm so sorry. what you're telling us is something that no ones should have to go through. go to get things checked out as soon as possible and i'm really hoping the best for you man and please keep us updated if you want. god bless man.

[onequestion]

Go see a doctor but try not to go crazy. What causes infertility in males? Weed? Cuz that isnt true. Id hate to see you go crazy over nothing.

[Spikedjester]

no i love the weed. I have all the symptoms, pain in my testical, I had a descended testical as a child, and my back hurts to hell. I have all the signs dude, im going to a doctor now. Please wish me luck guys.

[thcbongman]

OMG, dude... I posted earlier how i was experiencing major pain in my testicals. Dude im so scared, how am I gonna tell my parents I need to go the ER? Im only 17 isnt that rare, but that could be it im so afraid. =[

I wouldn't think about it until you actually get a diagnosis, because I was afraid of this, I didn't want to scare you! But I wanted to mention it's a possibility because it happened to me. In the instance if you have to do it, every day you wait, it's a day of cancer cells spreading.

If you are in a medical state, you could medical marijuana easily, you'd need it for chemotherapy and amounts of endless suffering you'd go through.

And no it doesn't cause infertility in all cases. A year after you go through chemotherapy, you'll be infertile. After that, you are pretty much okay. Infertility in this case is not from the cancer itself, but the procedures taken to get rid of it.

I'm just going to pray you don't have it. If by such cruel fate you do, I'm here if you need someone to talk to. I been through it all and I made it.

[onequestion]

Good luck. And either way it isnt the end of the world. You would have a 90% cure rate and the other 10% is only the very wort cases where you wouldnt have to go on the internet to know something is wrong with you like that.

[Spikedjester]

I just talked to my parents and they said if I go to the ER they wont run the tests because it isnt an emergency and that they would just tell me to go to a doctor. Now I have to wait til tomorrow afternoon until then! And back pain is a sign of late stage cancer! Im so scared...

[thcbongman]

I read your post about your testicle.

Go to the ER, now.

Be strong man. You are going to need every bit of strength and positivity, regardless of the diagnosis. I'm here if you need to talk to someone.

Your post made me breakdown. I haven't cried since I got TC. I only wish the best for you man, have faith!

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

no i love the weed. I have all the symptoms, pain in my testical, I had a descended testical as a child, and my back hurts to hell. I have all the signs dude, im going to a doctor now. Please wish me luck guys.

Ok by "desceneded testical" do you just mean one's lower than the other? 'cause if so that's perfectly normal. Thus far "matching all the symptoms" has only been one sore nut and a sore back. There's many possible causes to both, and it's very possible for pain from one of them to be referred to the other without it being cancerous. Just don't freak out before a doctor tells you anything!

[thcbongman]

I just talked to my parents and they said if I go to the ER they wont run the tests because it isnt an emergency and that they would just tell me to go to a doctor. Now I have to wait til tomorrow afternoon until then! And back pain is a sign of late stage cancer! Im so scared...

That's incredible BS. If anything, you admit yourself into ER, and you have access to every possible specialist. Trust me, they performed my orectimy within hours of my arrival. It doesn't take that long to find out.

It's an emergency. Right now I can perceive your urinary functions are a little fucked up. Do you feel hot at times? Are you noticing there's something different about when and how you are peeing? If so, I would go. My parents or friends didn't realize the extent of my pain either. You really have to take the initiative here, get in your car, drive to the hospital and walk in.

Please. For the love of god.

[Spikedjester]

That's incredible BS. If anything, you admit yourself into ER, and you have access to every possible specialist. Trust me, they performed my orectimy within hours of my arrival. It doesn't take that long to find out.

It's an emergency. Right now I can perceive your urinary functions are a little fucked up. Do you feel hot at times? Are you noticing there's something different about when and how you are peeing? If so, I would go. My parents or friends didn't realize the extent of my pain either. You really have to take the initiative here, get in your car, drive to the hospital and walk in.

Please. For the love of god.

I just called my parents to my room and showed them your exact post in response to mine. They still wont budge. They are like this guy is scaring you, you probably dont have it. I am so scared dude and I have to go through all tomorrow morning and going to fucking school and stuff dude I cant do this.

[thcbongman]

At least have your parents call the non-emergency line at the hospital and you describe the symptoms.

This is your life. If you don't have it, that's great! But if you do, it's something that's a matter of urgency. I wouldn't say every second counts, but you have to treat it right away.

The last thing I want to do is scare you. But at the same time it's important you get medical attention.

If your point this out to read to your parents again:

Please take your son to the hospital. I only hope he's doesn't have TC because I sure don't want him to go through the hell I suffered. Please. I know it's hard to trust a word of a total stranger on a cannabis.com board of all places, but if you love your son, you'd get him the help he needs. If what he's describing is true, he's in an immeasurable amount of pain, and his urinary functions are deteriorating. Please. This is his life!

[Spikedjester]

At least have your parents call the non-emergency line at the hospital and you describe the symptoms.

This is your life. If you don't have it, that's great! But if you do, it's something that's a matter of urgency. I wouldn't say every second counts, but you have to treat it right away.

The last thing I want to do is scare you. But at the same time it's important you get medical attention.

If your point this out to read to your parents again:

Please take your son to the hospital. I only hope he's doesn't have TC because I sure don't want him to go through the hell I suffered. Please. I know it's hard to trust a word of a total stranger on a cannabis.com board of all places, but if you love your son, you'd get him the help he needs. If what he's describing is true, he's in an immeasurable amount of pain, and his urinary functions are deteriorating. Please. This is his life!

They are done, dude. They are just going to take me tomorrow.

[thcbongman]

If you have a little weed, enjoy, smoke some. I want to be optimistic and say you don't have it. Because once you go, if you do have it, you'll be there for a while. So anything you enjoy doing, just enjoy it. You have to start thinking positive and be strong.

You will be in my thoughts. I wish you luck tomorrow.

[Spikedjester]

If you have a little weed, enjoy, smoke some. I want to be optimistic and say you don't have it. Because once you go, if you do have it, you'll be there for a while. So anything you enjoy doing, just enjoy it. You have to start thinking positive and be strong.

You will be in my thoughts. I wish you luck tomorrow.

Thanks for the support. I swear that this is gonna be the first place I post tomorrow once I get back, might even use my phone while at the doctor to post on here what happens. Thanks for all the support guys, im gonna need it.

[Spikedjester]

Just got back from the doctors. Apparently I have an infection of the epydidmus. Its a bacterial infection. I am gonna get some anti biotics and get it fixed in like a week or two hopefully. It fucking sucks it hurts so bad but at least it wasn't cancer. But of course now there is the problem bout how am I gonna be able to blaze again. By the way I am making progress with explaining how marijuana is not bad but my mom just thinks it makes everyone lazy. How can I prove this isn't true? Today shes like I even voted pro medical cannabis because I know it can be used to help people, but it should only be used if the people are dying or something. I'm like it should be used as one of the first things, its safer then pretty much any drug on the market. Of course she is stubborn and doesen't believe this. She said that she talked to some of her friends that used to grow their own and blaze all day before they "became Christians" (which i see as bs, because I am a Christian myself, and my name is Christian even, and I truly believe that God is Pro Cannabis, considering that he created it and it is a plant that has been in use as a medicine for the last 3000 years), and then also my mom said she asked my sister (who is a doctor) and apparently my sister said she gets "pot heads" that come to her all the time and they are just lazy and don't do anything. That makes me so mad thats the reason I cant blaze she thinks thats gonna happen to me and I happen to be an active stoner, I hate the couch lock. Any way I can prove you dont turn into a mindless couch potato by blazing?

[thcbongman]

Oh thank god!!!

You just have to show them by working hard and smart. Stop trying to convince them, and start showing them the way.

[LuckyG]

Good to hear that you don't have cancer - I remember when I thought I had skin cancer, that was the most terrifying thing that ever happened to me. (I didn't have it by the way, it was just a pus-filled node or something)

Someone on here (and I forget who, sorry) made the excellent observation that "You aren't lazy because you smoke, you smoke because you're lazy." That's probably not helpful but really, even when I'm sober I don't do much - in fact, I probably am more active when I'm high, just because it feels great to be out and about.

Your sister should also consider that she's getting a small sample of all the stoners out there. Maybe she doesn't realize that a lot of the people who come to her smoke, because it doesn't perceptibly affect them. Maybe she should consider that the stoners with medical problems are the ones who don't take care of themselves and wouldn't even if they weren't smoking. Being a doctor, I'm assuming she's smart enough to think for herself and consider all angles of a subject - maybe she should take a look at the flip side of the coin, just to get a better perspective.

And as far as the "Christians" thing goes, that is indeed BS. I know where she's coming from though. I live in the Bible Belt and there seems to be this idea that smoking and drinking are wrong, but everything else is okay as long as you don't get caught. There's nothing that says marijuana is wrong in the Bible - in fact, some verses seem to advocate it (check the Spirituality section of the forums), and it is in fact a plant that God put on this earth for our use, unlike synthetic drugs. A lot of people "convert" and then get on this high horse about altered states. I've been up on it too. It's a ridiculous place to be.

My perception of this in the Bible is that substance use is fine, but substance abuse is not. To paraphrase a verse from the Bible (I haven't been Christian for a few years now and am not up on this stuff) it is not what goes into the man that matters, but rather what comes out of him. So if drinking turns you into a violent asshole, don't drink, and if smoking makes you an uncontrollably and inappropriately horny dude, don't smoke.

By far the best way to prove that marijuana doesn't turn you into a couch potato is to demonstrate that fact. If you're an active stoner, show your parents that. Get out and do something active, and then when you're done tell your parents you were high the whole time. Either they'll come around or it'll backfire. It's worth a shot, I think. The bottom line is: Don't just tell them, show them.

Good luck and get well soon. :jointsmile:


In other news, I had a chance to talk about the capitalization (is that a word?) of the health care system with a co-worker who is pretty conservative, and I think I made a pretty good case for marijuana - explaining the pros and near-total absence of cons of not only the THC but also the plant in general. It's small, but every step counts towards public awareness.

[Spikedjester]

Good to hear that you don't have cancer - I remember when I thought I had skin cancer, that was the most terrifying thing that ever happened to me. (I didn't have it by the way, it was just a pus-filled node or something)

Someone on here (and I forget who, sorry) made the excellent observation that "You aren't lazy because you smoke, you smoke because you're lazy." That's probably not helpful but really, even when I'm sober I don't do much - in fact, I probably am more active when I'm high, just because it feels great to be out and about.

Your sister should also consider that she's getting a small sample of all the stoners out there. Maybe she doesn't realize that a lot of the people who come to her smoke, because it doesn't perceptibly affect them. Maybe she should consider that the stoners with medical problems are the ones who don't take care of themselves and wouldn't even if they weren't smoking. Being a doctor, I'm assuming she's smart enough to think for herself and consider all angles of a subject - maybe she should take a look at the flip side of the coin, just to get a better perspective.

And as far as the "Christians" thing goes, that is indeed BS. I know where she's coming from though. I live in the Bible Belt and there seems to be this idea that smoking and drinking are wrong, but everything else is okay as long as you don't get caught. There's nothing that says marijuana is wrong in the Bible - in fact, some verses seem to advocate it (check the Spirituality section of the forums), and it is in fact a plant that God put on this earth for our use, unlike synthetic drugs. A lot of people "convert" and then get on this high horse about altered states. I've been up on it too. It's a ridiculous place to be.

My perception of this in the Bible is that substance use is fine, but substance abuse is not. To paraphrase a verse from the Bible (I haven't been Christian for a few years now and am not up on this stuff) it is not what goes into the man that matters, but rather what comes out of him. So if drinking turns you into a violent asshole, don't drink, and if smoking makes you an uncontrollably and inappropriately horny dude, don't smoke.

By far the best way to prove that marijuana doesn't turn you into a couch potato is to demonstrate that fact. If you're an active stoner, show your parents that. Get out and do something active, and then when you're done tell your parents you were high the whole time. Either they'll come around or it'll backfire. It's worth a shot, I think. The bottom line is: Don't just tell them, show them.

Good luck and get well soon. :jointsmile:


In other news, I had a chance to talk about the capitalization (is that a word?) of the health care system with a co-worker who is pretty conservative, and I think I made a pretty good case for marijuana - explaining the pros and near-total absence of cons of not only the THC but also the plant in general. It's small, but every step counts towards public awareness.

No Dude they cant know I smoke by finding out by seeing me do it they will be pissed. They dont know I smoke at all but she says im lazy and shit while I get high on carry on conversations with her and help her with errands and stuff like that when im high, if only she knew that. But I cant tell her this, because then I would be screwed. Its so stupid, I wish she could just understand or accept to try it once and find out.

[LuckyG]

No Dude they cant know I smoke by finding out by seeing me do it they will be pissed. They dont know I smoke at all but she says im lazy and shit while I get high on carry on conversations with her and help her with errands and stuff like that when im high, if only she knew that. But I cant tell her this, because then I would be screwed. Its so stupid, I wish she could just understand or accept to try it once and find out.

I'd still say that if you can function normally when you're high, you should tell them, but it's your call. I mean, I obviously don't know your parents as well as you do. :jointsmile: But I really don't see any other option, other than continuing to smoke on the down-low until you can move out. And I would advise against getting her to try smoking, since you'll generally end up feeling whatever you expect to feel, and chances are she'd feel couchlocked - especially if she's a newbie. Everyone reacts differently to marijuana, so it's kind of like playing Russian roulette. Go with your gut feeling on this one.

[Spikedjester]

I'd still say that if you can function normally when you're high, you should tell them, but it's your call. I mean, I obviously don't know your parents as well as you do. :jointsmile: But I really don't see any other option, other than continuing to smoke on the down-low until you can move out. And I would advise against getting her to try smoking, since you'll generally end up feeling whatever you expect to feel, and chances are she'd feel couchlocked - especially if she's a newbie. Everyone reacts differently to marijuana, so it's kind of like playing Russian roulette. Go with your gut feeling on this one.

Fuck dude! Its too hard! =D Oh well I think im just gonna keep it on the down low and keep on showing them articles and medical breakthroughs and stuff when that comes up.

[Candnloveweed420]

hey man my parents have been testing me since the end of school around may until now. ive been tested twice and ive failed both of them (and the second one i was off of bud for 2 months and smoked once. the test came the day after that one smoke, imagine my luck.) its pretty shitty getting caught man, dont risk it im serious.

id say get a good friend (who doesnt smoke bud) who is willing to pee in a few water bottles for you. put one in your room somewhere and others in the bathrooms in ur house. make sure theyre hidden well man. if its the cheap home tests they are giving u, that should be fine.

if not that way, u can always do the dilution method. go to the drug testing section on this site for the dilution method instructions. just do that everyday if need be. but its kinda a drag having to drink so much water and shit, so that might not be the best way.

dawg i would say just abstain from it for a while, but in ur case, thats easier said than done. good luck man, whatever you decide to do. just make sure u have a plan or multiple plans that are fool proof. DONT GET CAUGHT MAN. i dunnoo about yours, but my parents arent strict or anything. but when i got busted, my home life was such a bitch. my summer hass been such a rollercoaster and its been full of nagging parents and restrictions. thank god im off to college in two weeks, but i expect another test before i go. ya what a great parting gift huh? im not a fuck up (far from it), but my parents treated me like one. blazing would help your situation but u need to make sure ur not caught. hope this helps you or at least reassures you

[c33p]

if ther keepin the kit in the house then look for it n if u find it brek it maybe

[stinkyattic]

if ther keepin the kit in the house then look for it n if u find it brek it maybe
Oh, yeah, great advice... :wtf:

Okay, so it sucks that your parents feel the need to drug test you.
But you guys are STILL living under their roofs and I'll bet NOT paying any rent... like it or not, you need to respect the people who enable your lifestyle... your best solution is to get a job and move out.
After all, you ARE all 18, right?

[GraziLovesMary]

Oh, yeah, great advice... :wtf:

Okay, so it sucks that your parents feel the need to drug test you.
But you guys are STILL living under their roofs and I'll bet NOT paying any rent... like it or not, you need to respect the people who enable your lifestyle... your best solution is to get a job and move out.
After all, you ARE all 18, right?

He said in his first post that hes 17, and he has a job but hes trying to afford a truck. I would just recommend getting a cheap POS car to avoid payments and work on saving money for a down payment on an apartment or something. Fuck living with parents, that shit drove me crazy.

Or you could just drop a couple drops of bleach in the cup full of piss lol. Home kits dont test for that like full spectrum analyses do.

[JD1stTimer]

Amen StinkyAttic! Probably the best thing to do is bust a hump looking for work and rent an apt., buy your truck, and then you can blaze as much as you want... (Assuming your employer doesn't test you.... mwahahaha) Anyway, just be thankful you don't have cancer, and realize that since you don't have cancer, you basically have the strength you need to work and go to school.

[Gunner420]

wait till you are clean......and piss a lot and save it/freeze it........that way whenever they want to test u, just get that clean piss, and use that

is that an option for u?

[Storm Crow]

Set your parents down in front of the computer and click the link in my sig. Tell them to read it all. lol - Granny:hippy:

ps- glad it was just epididimitus, but hon, my hubby has re-occurring problems with it. Remember how the early symptoms feel and take ALL the antibiotics they give you- don't stop early!

[rocktheganj]

dude so far you've just said no to all these solutions, and there's no magical solution. what i would do if i were you is go to safeway[or albertsons or whatever] and look at the gift card selection. get an american express gift card, for like 50 bucks, and go online and buy fake piss. just suck it up and keep it on your leg when you're around your parents.

its the shortest method... or you could just drink copious quantities of tea or coffee everyday, and take a b vitamin every day, and that would just dilute your urine enough to where the cannabinoid by-product percentage in your urine is too low to detect, and the b vitamin would make your pee yellow so it doesnt look like you tried diluting your urine.


i've never tried it, but i read it in another post here, and it sounded good to me.


aaaand once my aunt and uncle [i was living with them] drug tested me, and i just peed in the toilet, and scooped it out of the water, and it came out negative, and i was practically high when they did. i think it was those bleach tablets you put in the back part of your toilet, but im not sure. it was probably just a really cheap drug test [my uncle was a cheap one] and probably just didnt detect it, but i would just do the tea and vitamin b method.

[mugen]

Google "Urine Luck". I found it for $29.95 with a 200% money back guarentee. You just pour it in your piss and you should be clean. Its really the only thing i can think of in your situation. o and grats on not having cancer man.

[geonagual]

2 words..

QUICK FIX

[FakeBoobsRule]

Alright Johnny come lately's to this thread, I suggested Quick Fix to him a month ago and he shot it down repeatedly. Did ya'll bother reading the whole thread?

Second, I am not a parent but everyone keeps saying that he should prove to them the benfits of MJ. Well, I am going to go out on a limb and he can probably show them all the proof in the world but as long as it is illegal, his parents aren't going to be down with MJ unless they smoke too.

[geonagual]

Alright Johnny come lately's to this thread, I suggested Quick Fix to him a month ago and he shot it down repeatedly. Did ya'll bother reading the whole thread?

Second, I am not a parent but everyone keeps saying that he should prove to them the benfits of MJ. Well, I am going to go out on a limb and he can probably show them all the proof in the world but as long as it is illegal, his parents aren't going to be down with MJ unless they smoke too.


I read the whole post thank you very much..

I was trying to reemphasize the benefits of quick fix..maybe your selling points werent enough to convince.

[mugen]

but he cant use quickfix because his parents will test him on the spot.

Slipping Urine luck into maybe his shoe would work..just keep it there till u need it.

[geonagual]

What does it matter now...his young ass just got banned...

[NightProwler]

well what i did for my tests was, i got my friend who doesnt smoke to piss in a small plastic bottle and stored it outside of my window burried in a foot of snow.(luckily it was winter) whenever a test came up i got the bottle, heated it by sitting it in hot water in the sink, and used a fish tank thermometer to make sure it was around 96-98 degrees. after each test i'd get my friend to get me a refill. since you probly have no snow outside right now, you can try hiding it way in the back of the freezer.
if you dont go with that, my only other advice is to try dillution
(bassically when they tell you you need to take a test, insist that you simply have no pee in you and to wait a half an hour. then find a way to drink a good 2-3 litres of water.) hopefully that will dillute the thc out of your pee. also, ive heard that the highest concentration of thc can be fround in the beginning and end of your stream, so dont let the first or last drops into the testing cup.
my explanation of dillution was a quick one though, defintily check out the drug testing section and read up more on dilluition, and remember that it is possible to OD on water so dont overdo it lol.