Should cannabis.com members be anti medical marijuana and anti-hemp?

[Markass]

I was just kinda curious how some of you guys felt about this..after all, it's cannabis.com, why the hell would someone come on here and say that people using marijuana just wants to get high?

it just seems that you would see people who want to see the laws changed here..not those advocating against us who use it medically..

[Jizzle Blizzle420]

huh? have you seen someone on here do this which you speak of?

[M3nt0R]

Those for hemp..

Those for medical...

Those for recreational...

We all share a similar cause.

Those for industrial usage (hemp) have it easiest and most realistic. Low grade, low-thc marijuana that cant' get anyone high to be produced for fiber that's so quick to grow, but so versatile...it's only a matter of time. Two farmers are already suing the DEA over this accordng to NORML i think.

Medical has its benefits and many states already legalized it...progress

Recreational has very little progress but medical progress is indirectly recreational progress.

[sttomassmoker]

zuh? medical marijuana is great but the herb is still mostly moved in bulk by real criminals. The pot clubs in california can only have so much herb at a time, so all the rest hits the streets to regular dealers.

A big problem with getting pot legalized is you can't have a big drug bust without there being hundreds of pounds of marijuana among the cocaine/heroin/methamphetamine.

Pot needs to be legalized and made totally worthless in any monetary value before things are gonna be all good. I don't see that happening.

But anyways, that was a really confusing thread title. I assume you are as baked as me. I am so rambling.

Oh I get it. Yes marijuana has medicinal values. I use it mainly for recreational purposes, though I consider it to be a very good medicine for many everyday ailments.

The only thing people can do is grow more pot. Growing more pot is the answer.

[Markass]

http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/104369-u-s-sued-over-its-stance-marijuana.html#post1273900

http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/103890-go-vote-now-cnn-poll.html#post1264409

http://boards.cannabis.com/legal/99209-south-carolina-proposes-medical-marijuana-bill.html#post1202631

http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/96532-myths-facts-about-marijuana-interesting-d.html#post1161935

http://boards.cannabis.com/medicinal-cannabis-health/92427-caffeine-worse-then-marijuana.html#post1104996

http://boards.cannabis.com/current-events/120438-2-farmers-suing-dea-over-right-grow-hemp.html#post1487606

It may just be so much that he reminds me of the replies I have received from my legislators when I ask them their position? I really can't tell you why I get so emotional about it, but I've seen so many people go to jail because people like that say that because it doesn't help them it doesn't help anyone...it's b/s

[Markass]

in the way I live...to me, doing that would be the equivalent of me going into my front yard and digging a shallow hole to shit in...it just temporarily rids of it..it's still there..wait till the wind blows that dirt off of it..well, that probably wont happen on the internet but still...you know.

[Skink]

Pot is medicine in every respect...

[delusionsofNORMALity]

isn't the question your asking really, "should we allow dissenting opinions"? this morning you seem to be advocating the censorship of those who disagree with our pro-legalization stance and that just doesn't sit right with me. this community consists mainly of people who have set a course contrary to the accepted legal standards of behavior and to attempt to penalize anyone for going against our standards seems to be the height of hypocrisy. i've spent the better part of the last half century rebelling against such thought-police tactics, believing that we should be above the use of this sort of weapon, and i would be ashamed of my membership here if we were to instate a policy which would exclude anyone based on their stand for or against MJ prohibition.

[GHoSToKeR]

We should all think whatever we want to. What's with thinking we should all agree on everything? That would be the crap outta me personally.

Edit: Your poll is stupid. Where's the "Members should think whatever the fuck they want" option?

[Skink]

isn't the question your asking really, "should we allow dissenting opinions"? this morning you seem to be advocating the censorship of those who disagree with our pro-legalization stance and that just doesn't sit right with me. this community consists mainly of people who have set a course contrary to the accepted legal standards of behavior and to attempt to penalize anyone for going against our standards seems to be the height of hypocrisy. i've spent the better part of the last half century rebelling against such thought-police tactics, believing that we should be above the use of this sort of weapon, and i would be ashamed of my membership here if we were to instate a policy which would exclude anyone based on their stand for or against MJ prohibition.

Oh crap,,,now I gotta read the thread...

[Markass]

In my opinion, which this apparently doesn't mean jack however...it's not a matter of opinion, it's purely a matter of fact and fiction.

Fiction: "Marijuana has absolutely no medical value whatsoever"

Fact: "Marijuana has been proven scientifically and anecdotally to have medical benefit"

Fact is, marijuana DOES have benefit and on a cannabis website I just don't think it fits right regardless of right to opinion.

You can think that all you want, but you shouldn't go around lying to people on these boards...

[Reefer Rogue]

Cannabis definately posseses medicinal value.

Long live the healing herb.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

In my opinion, which this apparently doesn't mean jack however...it's not a matter of opinion....

for every study you may quote proving your point, there is someone on the other side of the argument with a study to back up their views. as with most things, it's a matter of who you choose to believe and what works best for you.

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

I think the best thing we can all do, as individuals, is demand source-links to back up such arguments beforing alloting it any credibility.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

I think the best thing we can all do, as individuals, is demand source-links to back up such arguments before allotting it any credibility.
if you looked hard enough you could probably find a source that proved hitler invented the internet and mussolini developed a cure for cancer. there are no universal truths available to us lowly mortals. the only sure means of finding truth is through personal experience. all else is based on faith in the reliability of others and i have very little of that sort of faith.

[indicagrower]

when someone says something you don't agree with just be like well thats your opinion but i don't agree..

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

if you looked hard enough you could probably find a source that proved hitler invented the internet and mussolini developed a cure for cancer. there are no universal truths available to us lowly mortals. the only sure means of finding truth is through personal experience. all else is based on faith in the reliability of others and i have very little of that sort of faith.


Of course "if you looked hard enough", but I'm more interested in those who look well enough. I don't make my arguments about cannabis from pro or anti cannabis websites, but from accredited research institutions that actually do the labwork themselves (statistics are often very fallable in their interpretation). The University of Victoria has an incredible international database on all sorts of science info strait from the researcher's mouth. The University of Massachusettes (I think that's the one) does plenty of research in biology themselves, and the University of Saskatchewan has a remarkable neurological studies department. Anybody who's familiar with proper science will never be impressed by a claim that starts with "studies show", but by a presentation of data and the methodology behind the study which can be openly debated in regard to any fallable interpretation.

[Skink]

For every point there is a viable counterpoint,,,you just have to be somewhat intelligent and controversial...

[Gandalf_The_Grey]

For every point there is a viable counterpoint,,,you just have to be somewhat intelligent and controversial...


Thank you Skink! That's been my motto for a few years now and I can't beat it into the ground enough. DON'T ACCEPT AN ARGUMENT, UNTIL YOU HEAR THE COUNTER-ARGUMENT. Then use your own critical thinking skills to interpret the information and see who's reasoning is logical.


And DelusionsOfNormality, you still made a very good point. We have to be careful of the internet and really understand what sources to trust. Trust, of course, should only go so far; you have to interpret the info yourself.

[Skink]

I knew ever since I was 12,,,pot was bitchin,,,don't bore me with studies and details!!! Pot is Mother Nature itself,,,Smok'em if you Got'em...

[Markass]

lol, skink

[delusionsofNORMALity]

I knew ever since I was 12,,,pot was bitchin,,,don't bore me with studies and details!!! Pot is Mother Nature itself,,,Smok'em if you Got'em...

and that is what really counts!!!