Miracle-Gro ...

[the image reaper]

when I put my present clones into the flowering cabinet, I am going to sacrifice one to a test ... I will grow out one of my 12 Willie Nelsons, using only Miracle-Gro fertilizer ... I'm kinda curious myself, as I used only Miracle-Gro for many years (yes, MANY:D) ... I'll update from time to time :smokin:

[mikeo14]

I used MG on my plants when they where only about 2 weeks old and so far they've shot right up w/ no signs of burn or anything

[xcrispi]

I too used it for years in soil grows ,
Finally got tired of the metal type taste . I couldn't flush all the m/g out I don't think . Stuff does work well when used in small amounts .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[the image reaper]

I always had good luck with it (I think, but I didn't have anything to compare it to) ... back in the 70's I read (memorized:D) Mel Frank's and Ed Rosenthal's Growers' Guide ... it said I wouldn't over-fertilize if I applied it as a foliar-spray, so every Sunday, the girls would be sprayed down with MG, plain water the rest of the week ... had nice dark green foliage :thumbsup: ... however, I can't say as to what it did for flowering buds, because, in those days, I knew NOTHING about growing pot, I was just smoking the leaves for a long time :D ... times change, LOL :jointsmile:

[xcrispi]

I too was forced to fumble around -n- rely on Ed's M/J gowers bible and such for far far too long . This new fangled internet thing sure makes things easy for the new growers . Can learn from everybody elses mistakes , instead of making them all themselves . I never tried foliar feeding w/ the stuff though , you mighta been on to something ?
Peace bro.
Crispi :jointsmile:

[BoomBoom82]

just started me own grow an we r adding the special mg 2 r 40. hopefully the results will speak 4 themselves. it has a really high nitrogen base !;)

[the image reaper]

my results with foliar feeding have always been positive ... the book said you 'can't' over-fert with that method (I don't go that far, anything can be overdone, once a week worked well for my bagseeds) ... usually, for foliar-feeding, the nutes are diluted to 50% strength, and sprayed on both sides of the leaves ... I seldom foliar-feed these days, because the overspray makes such a mess of my Mylar ... next cabinet, I may go back to a flat-white finish ... I'm planning on taking an old light-meter, and a flashlight, with me to Home Depot, and try to compare the reflection of some white plastic sheets they have, and a white 'formica' type paneling ... (Mylar definitely reflects more light than any other surface, but it is a pain in the ass to keep clean) ... :smokin:

[PleoLeo]

the only problems i have had is over fert...very easy to do...i just switched to GH for convenience..

[xcrispi]

my results with foliar feeding have always been positive ... the book said you 'can't' over-fert with that method (I don't go that far, anything can be overdone, once a week worked well for my bagseeds) ... usually, for foliar-feeding, the nutes are diluted to 50% strength, and sprayed on both sides of the leaves ... I seldom foliar-feed these days, because the overspray makes such a mess of my Mylar ... next cabinet, I may go back to a flat-white finish ... I'm planning on taking an old light-meter, and a flashlight, with me to Home Depot, and try to compare the reflection of some white plastic sheets they have, and a white 'formica' type paneling ... (Mylar definitely reflects more light than any other surface, but it is a pain in the ass to keep clean) ... :smokin:

I've been eyein the 4 x 8 sheets of pebblegrain shower surround material at the Depot for a while now . I had mold / mildew probs between the mylar and the actual walls and swore off mylar . I am only using flat wht. paint w/ mildex added to it . Reaper = I have no light meter -next time your at the depot could you check the reflective qual. of this stuff for me ? It'd be greatly appreciated .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

[MistaGanja]

M-Grow will make your weed taste Bad!!

[the image reaper]

I've been eyein the 4 x 8 sheets of pebblegrain shower surround material at the Depot for a while now . I had mold / mildew probs between the mylar and the actual walls and swore off mylar . I am only using flat wht. paint w/ mildex added to it . Reaper = I have no light meter -next time your at the depot could you check the reflective qual. of this stuff for me ? It'd be greatly appreciated .
Peace
Crispi :jointsmile:

sure, I'll give it a shot here in a few days, let ya know what happened ... I have an old light-meter, and I'm guessing, if I shine my flashlight on the panel, and take a reading of the reflection, it should indicate which one reflects better (or, anyway, that's my theory :D) ... I need to drive down the hill, and visit my Home Depot ... :smokin:

[the image reaper]

M-Grow will make your weed taste Bad!!

no, only if it's overdone, and not flushed properly before harvest (like you should do with any growing method) ... :smokin:

[Dizzy1]

So unless this is updated elsewhere... where's the updates to your experiment? :)

[the image reaper]

I'll post the results here, at this thread ... I just don't leave the house much, and have to drive to town to do the experiment ... I'll try and build a fire under my ass to get it done ... thanks for your interest, that will motivate me :thumbsup:

[Dizzy1]

Glad I could help motivate!

grabs a can of kerosene
Lets see what this does to the fire. :P

[davejohnwright]

If you wouldnt mind while your there theres another material I have been curious about. It's a type of insulation, it's reflective on both sides and has bubble wrap sandwiched in between.
And MG has been known to grow some great pot, I've found it to be a pain in the ass to dose properly though, but trial and error can fix that prob. But I dont like the company, and dont encourage anyone to make them money based on an article I read some years ago about how they drug test thier employees for tobacco. What kind of nazi bullshit is that? I mean seriously!

[the image reaper]

I haven't seen that 'bubble-wrap sandwich' insulation before, sounds interesting, I'll try to check it out ... :smokin:

[davejohnwright]

It's wraped in plastic so I'm not sure if you will be able to get an accurate reading unless you accidentally rip a small hole in the wrapping, but it looks to me like it could be very useful material.

[Dizzy1]

They probably test them because there is a no smoking situation at their plant. Fertilizer is extremely flammable and they probably don't want to go boom. They do the same tobacco testing at places that dispense jet fuel.
Would be my guess anyway.

[Dizzy1]

Or maybe it could be this... hehe
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: Scotts Miracle-Gro to Begin Firing Smokers (http://tobaccoanalysis.blogspot.com/2005/12/scotts-miracle-gro-to-begin-firing.html)

[rhizome]

If you wouldnt mind while your there theres another material I have been curious about. It's a type of insulation, it's reflective on both sides and has bubble wrap sandwiched in between.


Reflectix? Got a value of about R-3, about 85% reflective, kind of expensive for the coverage. PITA to hang, as it has enough shape memory to want to curl up. Dulls knives incredibly fast. Staples dimple it up- Hot spots? Tough to shape into a tight corner, but works well on a frame.

[the image reaper]

OK, I made the trip to Home Depot today, light meter in hand ... in a nutshell, the shiny white 'pebble-grained' fiberglass shower-enclosure-type paneling' was a BAD reflector of light (15 foot-candles on my meter)... very disappointing, but, it was too expensive for me anyway $$$$ ... same for some white 'plastic' panels they carry, poor reflective qualities (15-18 footcandles) ... their 'flat-white Melamine-surfaced particle board' was MUCH better (25 footcandles) ... it reflects the same as flat-white paint, (which is pretty good, overall) ... it is available on 4'x8' sheets from 1/8" thickness to at least 3/4" ... that's probably what I'll use for my new cabinet ... I'm using Mylar now, and while it reflects the best when NEW, after a couple cleanings, it fogs, scratches, etc... I think I'll buy the Melamine-surfaced sheets, as they should be easy to clean, and durable, cleaning-wise ... this experiment wasn't very technical, I just measured the light falling on each board from Home Depot's overhead lights, but it seems to indicate comparative reflectiveness just fine ... I didn't find any of the 'bubble-sandwich insulation' ... :smokin:

[PharmaCan]

I used the bubble wrap stuff in my cabinet. I thought it was easy to work with. I cut it to height then fastened the corners with 1"x2" bats which I then covered with silver tape. It's a bit of a PITA, but so are most things in life in one way or another. LOL

PC :smokin:

[trynagethigh]

OK, I made the trip to Home Depot today, light meter in hand ... in a nutshell, the shiny white 'pebble-grained' fiberglass shower-enclosure-type paneling' was a BAD reflector of light (15 foot-candles on my meter)... very disappointing, but, it was too expensive for me anyway $$$$ ... same for some white 'plastic' panels they carry, poor reflective qualities (15-18 footcandles) ... their 'flat-white Melamine-surfaced particle board' was MUCH better (25 footcandles) ... it reflects the same as flat-white paint, (which is pretty good, overall) ... it is available on 4'x8' sheets from 1/8" thickness to at least 3/4" ... that's probably what I'll use for my new cabinet ... I'm using Mylar now, and while it reflects the best when NEW, after a couple cleanings, it fogs, scratches, etc... I think I'll buy the Melamine-surfaced sheets, as they should be easy to clean, and durable, cleaning-wise ... this experiment wasn't very technical, I just measured the light falling on each board from Home Depot's overhead lights, but it seems to indicate comparative reflectiveness just fine ... I didn't find any of the 'bubble-sandwich insulation' ... :smokin:

hey reaper dont know if you have a Menards where your at but they sell that insulation wrap ur talking about...:thumbsup: Its reflective with the foam/something similar type center?. It comes in rolls (that ive seen), not sure how big the rolls were maybe 25 feet or so. this is the stuff you are talking about right?..see pic

[trynagethigh]

sorry here the other one with the bubble wrap

[the image reaper]

yes, that's the 'bubblewrap' they were talking about ... at the time, I didnt know what it was, and didnt see it ... I will try to test it tomorrow, I'm going to Home Depot ... the manufacturer's website claims it is 'up to' 97% reflective, but that seems optimistic to me ... :jointsmile:

[trynagethigh]

i was walking into menards for something else and it caught my eye, its rather shiny i must say...:D Thats when it crossed my mind that it wouldnt be bad to use but i never researched it as far as reflectivity. also seems it would be easy to work with too and just cut and paste and your pretty much done especially in a cabinet grow..:thumbsup:. i am rather curious as to how good it is myself.:confused: