Scientology - ultimate defamation thread

[B.Basher]

I am so sick of this Scientology bullshit.

I hope all my British buddies caught the panorama recently with John Sweeny on Scientology. I'm not particularly a fan of religion by default but I draw the line at this ridiculous, shameless, leaching cult. I'm sure most of you know the details but let's just look at some of the key facts about scientology:

- The process of entry and promotion in the cult is entirely dependant on how much money you donate.

- The creator of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, who wrote a book about the fundamentals of the cult, which includes an alien race (complete with evil emperor), giant 747 space rocket ships, soul catchers and a giant cat on a hangglider, admitted to being totally rocked on class As at the time.

- Any attempt to get close to the organisation results in invasion of your privacy at the hands of Scientologist cronies via such means as breaking and entering your property, hiring PIs to track your every move and being photographed wherever you go.

- A Scientologist must cut off all contact from any accomplices that are not Scientologists. This includes friends and family.

- The faith basically amounts to the promise of eternal life and happiness, so long as you pay enough.

- The church frequently uses criminal activities to forward it's agenda and promote new members. When attacked, criticised or even questioned, they use bureaucracy and law to attack the culprit right back to the fullest degree.

And let's not forget the long list of immensely whacked out sub-laws, such as when a women is giving birth they're not allowed to make a single sound :thumbsup: .

I might have posted this in the religion section, but the simple, logical, concrete fact is, this is no religion and it is not a faith. It is a total outright scam that takes advantage of the weak minded and unintelligent. The things is, I have very little pity for them as you'd really have to be braindead to fall for any of it. :mad:

So, we all know how Scientologists hate to be ridiculed... Here's the thread for it. Post your comments!

[Pass That Shit]

Scientology is no different than every other man made false religion. One does not need religion, but rather a relationship with the LORD. :hippy:

Where's the religion forum? I thought this was it?

[B.Basher]

Yeah, it got moved. My bad I guess.

I would say Scientology is VERY different from any other religion. However sceptical your opinion of a religion is, people are able to find hope and a genuine benefit in their faith. Whilst many religions can be approached in many different ways, Scientology functions only as a fundamentalist religion, one that sucks in the vulnerable with false hope and promises, demands they pay their money, demands they forget about their family and demands total, 100% obedience. And for what? Some fucking drug addicts bad trip that sounds like a bad 1980s cartoon.

[MegaOctane12]

I don't think it preys on the vunerable, people have freewill entering a cult and if they let themselves become brainwashed than that's just that. Scientology isn't exactly an economy in its own right, WallMart is much worse in my opinion.

Its run by intolerable people but then again alot of religion is like that, blindsight faith with the emphasis on blind. These people obviously do very well at doing whatever it is they do, the fact Tom Cruise is a scientologist and he has completely lost the plot makes a bold statment in my opinion.

[PureEvil760]

WallMart is much worse in my opinion.


lol

Never looked into this scientology stuff, but it sounds pretty fucked up, kinda reminds me of jehova witnesses for some reason.

[b0n3ZA]

Tom Cruise in an hero.

[darth stoner]

Scientology is no different than every other man made false religion. One does not need religion, but rather a relationship with the LORD. :hippy:

Where's the religion forum? I thought this was it?

One does not need religion OR a god :)

[epicsoundz69]

I believe that there COULD be a higher power, but I choose not to believe anything that MAN says I have to do to be able to reach the equivalent of heaven.

[Turtlepik]

Scientology is no different than every other man made false religion. One does not need religion, but rather a relationship with the LORD. :hippy:


It depends on your definition of "man made false religion". As far as anyone knows, all religions could be man made, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they are false. Just because they're based on things that may not have happened, and revolve around a being (or beings) that may not exist, it doesn't mean that the core values of the religion are bad. I for one do not believe in God or any other deity, but I certainly don't condemn the people that do, and are trying to make the world a better place. They may well be misguided, but why should that bother me? As long as nobody is being hurt or made to feel like they're less of a person because they don't follow a particular faith, then let them get on with it, I say.
It's the people that don't let people have their own beliefs that get to me, and Scientology are not alone here. There are extremist branches of most other religions that promote hate towards other faiths, or intolerance to those who don't follow. However, Scientology seems to be the only one that pursues this way of thinking as a whole. I can't think of any popular religion that doesn't promote love and forgiveness at it's heart apart from Scientology. They exist purely to make money, and they don't give a fuck about who gets hurt in the process. Plus they have absolutely no problem in backtracking to avoid answering "embarrassing" questions. For instance, although the tale of Xenu and all that crap is supposedly the basis of their faith, many now seem to be denying the validity of it all. In the Panorama programme, not one of the "stars" that follow the faith would allow their comments to be shown, despite the fact that they were being interviewed in front of a camera, and apparently none would comment at all on the Xenu tale.

Anyway, I'm rambling because Scientology pisses me off majorly, and I haven't had my morning joint yet. I'm off to make a cup of tea and roll a fat one.

P.S. If any Scientology lawyers are reading this - :stoned: That's what L. Ron Hubbard was doing when he made up your "religion".

[Purple Banana]

I think... Nah, too early in the morning. I'll get back to ya with a better post in the afternoon... :P

[slipknotpsycho]

hmm... i've always wondered what scientology actually was...

~blinks~ i never thought i'd ever read about a group that made christians look like... well christians (as they're supposed to be, not the hypocrites most are)

a woman not allowed to make noise durring birth? obviously, THEY'VE never been in the pain, or in the delivery room.... shit, tell a birthing woman to shut up, you'll lose a testical, but atleast you'll already be at the hospital..

[hazetwostep]

i think it is sad when any religion (which most from my understanding do) takes advantage of people.. whether you have to pay crazy money to have your auditing done (scientology) or you have to give 10% of your income to the church (christianity), etc.

i do believe in charity, but not in a forced or coaxed way. generosity is a noble trait, when it is sincere, not forced.

[peacetrain]

I'm sure people complained about the cult-like behavior of any major religion at its first conception. I wonder what people thought of the first group of people who said some guy turned water into wine, walked on water, and rose from the dead. Religions are just bigger cults with a bigger history.

That being said, Scientology is super scary. Look up some videos on youtube sometime...their methods are frightening.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Anyway, I'm rambling because Scientology pisses me off majorly, and I haven't had my morning joint yet. I'm off to make a cup of tea and roll a fat one.

P.S. If any Scientology lawyers are reading this - :stoned: That's what L. Ron Hubbard was doing when he made up your "religion".

L. Ron Hubbard, according to his son, was actually taking very strong natural psychedelics when he invented Scientology. Before he came up with it, when he was a science fiction writer, he wrote that it was easier to make a million by starting your own religion than work for a quarter a word writing stories. He did exactly that.

[all ablaze]

I hate scientolgy because 4 yrs ago i was getting a tattoo and the guy was finishing off some other guys tattoo before mine so i went outside to phone my mate. Then this really attractive girl walks up and asks if i would mind answearing a few questions, i had about 20 mins so i said yeah. Anyway as i said this girl was very sexy and so ended up buying a book (dianetics).
I pop into the scientology place with her to pick it up. I get asked a ton of questions I answear them and think as im leaving what a bunch of fucking wierdos.

That was 4 yrs ago. Now every month i get a handwritten letter from the scientology mob telling me how fucked up my life is and how good it could be.
I dont know how they got my address but somehow they did.

4 FUCKING YEARS!!!

[Nochowderforyou]

I have to agree with the original thread post here. I recently watched a documentary called The Secret, and the way they put it, made it seem like you could have anything your heart desired, just as long as you thought about it, and imagined having it, day in, day out, and it would eventually come to you.

I came to realize that these followers, are trying to sell their beliefs, just like any other religion. Not with money, but with a media sense. All the stuff you see on TV and books, of course they are going to ham it up and make themselves look good. It's like trying to get a job by pulling the truth a bit too far by putting in things in your resume to "sell" your employment to them. It's all sales and marketing, and what they say shouldn't be taken with 100% belief.

Now me, I found this program not bad. A bit over the top, but it drove me to dive into Dianetics. Again, interesting stuff. I have chose to take bits and pieces of their theory called Law of Attraction, and which means in simple terms, you think or put out positivity, you get positivity back. Like Karma in a way too I guess...you get what you put out. You put out negativity, you get negativity back, and vise versa with positive thinking too.

That's about as much as I took in. I don't think about certain things I want so they come to me, but I strongly believe that if you work hard and stay positive, positive things will come, which you work hard for and pay off in the end.

They make it sound like it will come to you if you sit on your ass all day. No, it won't. It comes to you by you working hard to earn what you want, not JUST thinking about it.

So yeah, that's what I took from it. I try to think positive, and when something negative happens, instead of me getting mad about it, I think how that negativity came to me in the first place.

Everything happens for a reason. :)

[BlAzInIt4:20]

let people believe in what they want, whatever gets them through their days. as for me im going to say i don't believe in much, just the fact im alive im here and i sure as hell better make the best of it because its going fast...

[jdmarcus59]

they can suck my dick.