Billionfold

[VaporDaddy]

Hey Bf,
I have read the posts where you state "pot does not define who I am" I'm not sure I completely understand your meaning. Would you expand on that statement?
Thanks:jointsmile:

[dusto2k3]

Like, weed is an enhancement, and does not run your life.

[dusto2k3]

i know some people that all they do is think about getting high, and will spend a whole day trying to get weed. I would hate to be that.

[MastaChronic]

lol, i read the title and i was ready to step up and throw down for you billion....then i read what vapor had to say and now i just feel silly

[stinkyattic]

Enhancement. Yeah, that's about exactly how I think of cannabis. If you live a dull meaningless existence, smoking isn't going to help you do much else but not give a crap about your lack of a life... Becoming an interesting person with hobbies and friends and a job you like is far more important... once you have that going for you, weed is going to improve an ALREADY POSITIVE outlook.

[geonagual]

Depends on how you define typical
Everyone is original
If your lame, your lame and it is not gonna matter much anyway. Huh? I am sending it anyway.

[Staurm]

I'll say. I'm sick of people sterotyping me as lazy, a junkie, delusional. I've even been called a drain on society by some idiots. You just can't tell these people, they have made up their minds. I'm like you BIllionfold, I use weed to enhance all the other interesthing things I do with my life, cooking, running, power yoga, its all part of my spiritual way of life.

[NextLineIsMine]

I think this is a powerful message alot of smokers should know. I see alot of tokers play out a role that they think they have to play as a stoner.

I dont really like the term stoner, it insinuates that first and foremost about you you smoke herb, then you are a few other things

[Inferius]

I am not a stoner.
I am a psychonaut.

Let's think about this.
(from wiki: A number of common stereotypes about cannabis users have been popularized over time by hearsay and mass media. Stoner films, for example, tend to cast the user as a suburban teen or young adult slacker who is apathetic toward any aspect of life besides the pursuit of fun â?? and, often times, more cannabis. They may or may not identify themselves with other drug-related cultures and may even see use of other drugs, especially hard drugs, alcohol, and tobacco, as dangerous, addictive and/or morally wrong. Some cannabis smokers may identify with the hippie culture, Indie culture, Punk culture, Heavy Metal culture, the Rastafari movement, hip hop, or even country among others.

As the number of cannabis users in the west has increased over the past four decades the image of the marijuana smoker has become more familiar in developed societies, and less identified with young people. Where once cannabis users were associated with hippie culture (Woodstock, Grateful Dead, etc.) and Rastafarians, they are now increasingly regarded as typical individuals. This intersection between suburban life and drug culture has changed how many people view cannabis users.

Many believe that such typification of users is meaningless given the sheer diversity in the worldwide demographic of users, which spans different cultures, age, ethnicity, and social status. Some users, however, may identify with certain customs or ideologies surrounding the drug. Cannabis is also cited as an inspiration by many artists


Psychonaut: Psychonaut is a modern term used to describe one who uses trance technologies and, more specifically mind-altering substances, more for their ability to act as entheogens than for their inebriating (or social) effect. In effect, they are used as a means to achieve states of mind in which different perceptions, unhindered by everyday mental filters and processes, can arise. Psychonauts believe that when a mind-altering substance is used with this intent, its effects can be life altering and are not mere hallucinations. An alternate description is that while some aspects of the experience may be hallucinatory, the realizations caused by those hallucinations and the mental, emotional and long term impact of the experience are real, usually positive, and enduring.

The term is often associated with neoshamanic practices; however, many distinguish between the mental exploration of the psychonaut and authentic, healing-oriented shamanic practice.

Brain function

Psychonautics can be considered an attempt to generate a user's manual for the human brain. Unlike psychology, which is concerned with understanding other people, psychonauts are more concerned with understanding themselves, and the process of self exploration; accordingly, they engage in direct exploration of themselves and their own thought processes.

As such, psychonauts seek to understand mental process and functioning and employ such knowledge in their activities. Key to this is auto-modification of brain wave frequencies, which can lead to quite distinct perceptual states; a detailed examination and understanding of one's own thought processes, habits, and beliefs is also sought. Hallucinatory states, drug-induced or otherwise, are seen as a form of subliminal symbolism or as a real but distinct reality; as with other processes of the mind, psychonauts seek to understand these. Psychological theories and concepts are also often taken into account, particularly those of Carl G. Jung and Abraham Maslow.

This is also ideally practically applied in bettering one's self through the knowledge of one's own thought processes; with this understanding and heightened perception of one's own internal dialogue, it is thought that one is more able to control their own ego, and detach themselves from what is seen as a herd mentality common to modern culture. ."


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[Staurm]

Excellent post! :D

I like this place.

I especially like your last sentence, is that a quote or something you wrote?

[VaporDaddy]

Certainly. I know a few people who do nothing with their lives except goto Hippie Conventions and smoke weed. Now obviously I have nothing against these things, as I do both. The difference is, I do other things. Some nonsmokers see people who smoke as one group, when in reality they're diverse. So I guess when I say that weed doesn't define who I am, all I am saying is that I'm not you're typical stoner who does nothing but smoke weed. I do smoke a lot of weed, but I don't let it get in the way of what's important. Hope that answers your question.

I agree with you completely. I feel the same but I think using marijuana does at least help define who I am. What I mean is, the fact that I am open enough to rely on my own experiences to define what is true for me rather than the propoganda or status quo etc...I think that defines part of my charachter. I think this is part of the reason pot users congregate regardless of politics or religion etc.., because we all share this common trait.
I agree that the person who only thinks of getting high is acting on some unhealthy impulses but for the rest of us who use responsibly to enhance our lives I think we should be proud to say we use marijuana.

I hope this makes some sense. :jointsmile:

[freewheelinfrank]

Certainly. I know a few people who do nothing with their lives except goto Hippie Conventions and smoke weed. Now obviously I have nothing against these things, as I do both. The difference is, I do other things. Some nonsmokers see people who smoke as one group, when in reality they're diverse. So I guess when I say that weed doesn't define who I am, all I am saying is that I'm not you're typical stoner who does nothing but smoke weed. I do smoke a lot of weed, but I don't let it get in the way of what's important. Hope that answers your question.

anybody that has 6,943 posts, and only been on this Forum for a little over a year, couldn't have much of a life, outside of marijuana :wtf:

[LIP]

anybody that has 6,943 posts, and only been on this Forum for a little over a year, couldn't have much of a life, outside of marijuana :wtf:

I've been here little over a year and have over 10,000 posts - doesnt mean i dont get out. I work all day, i smoke and drink all night. Just because i have a high post count doesnt mean i post here non stop every day. Post count means nothing - why bring it up?

[freewheelinfrank]

LIP. you've been one of mine, and Reaper's, favorites for a LONG time, I know well over a year, why is your 'join' date show so recently, was it re-set after one of your Bans ? ... seems like you've been here at least 2-3 years - ??

[LIP]

LIP. you've been one of mine, and Reaper's, favorites for a LONG time, I know well over a year, why is your 'join' date show so recently, was it re-set after one of your Bans ? ... seems like you've been here at least 2-3 years - ??

No, i've only been here since feb 06.

I've been comming on this site since 03 i think, but i didnt bother with an account untill some moron made me want to join up just to flame him lol.

All i'm saying is, even though i've got alot of posts, doesnt mean i dont get out. I just post quickly in all teh threads that appeal to me.

[InsomniaBomber420]

hey what do u have against ppl with low posts. I have alot of shit to do allday. as 4 the topic,so true it doese enhance life,but I am one of those ppl who if im out of bud Ill look everywhere 4 it,but I love my life enhanced. I never let it get in the way of my social or professional life,or my obligations

[Reefer Rogue]

Billionfold is a friendly chap.

[VaporDaddy]

If you guys are done attacking each other...Billionfold would you respond to my last post :)

[Psycho4Bud]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_9sbNXNNYA&mode=related&search=

Have a good one!:D

[kiwi]

:hippy: great thread.... I would just like to add that my hubby and I both grow and smoke, and this is just a tiny part of our lives. I am 35 and retired, we own several companies and employ alot of staff. Cannabis is a part of our lives but it is not our whole life.;)

[cannabis=freedom]

I think that cannabis does greatly help to define who we are.

I don't mean we live for getting high or that we can't live without it; most stoners aren't like that, not the smart ones at any rate. I mean that, as some dude on this thread mentioned, it does say something about our propaganda-Xray-vision, and it does unite us in bonds of brotherhood.

[VaporDaddy]

I think that cannabis does greatly help to define who we are.

I don't mean we live for getting high or that we can't live without it; most stoners aren't like that, not the smart ones at any rate. I mean that, as some dude on this thread mentioned, it does say something about our propaganda-Xray-vision, and it does unite us in bonds of brotherhood.

Amen, some other dude :thumbsup: