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grasshopper420
04-25-2007, 07:13 AM
guys i dont know which one of you taught me this but it was in chat you are a beatifull person ....i want to pass this shit on to who ever might not know how to make a very simple and pure honey oil with only a bic pen enough weed to roll a decent joint a pop can ( prefferable warm and unopened ) and a can of brand name butane the best you can find.....
 !. grind the weed as fine as possible w/o losing the trichomes(crystals) 
 2. dissasemble the pen so that you have a white tube with a black cap and a cone cap on the bottom ( take out the whole ink thing with the gold plastic and shit )
 3. make a hole just slightly smaller than the tip of the butane injector in the flat cap on the non writing end of the pen.
 4. put a small peice of pipe screen in the come cap on the writing end of the pen.
 5.after the cone shaped cap is back in the pen remove the top flat cap and fill the pen with herb tighter than you would a joint but not so tight you cant suck thru it.
 6. hold the pointed screen end of the pen down into the bottom of your pop can ( put the can on its top on a table or something and hold the pen just over thw bowl like part ) 
 7. sticke the butane injector into the hole you made just slightly smaller than it and inject butane thru the weed and into the can until it runs clear ( if it just blows thru you diddnt pack the nug tight enough you want it to drip like a faucet leak ) 
 8. let the butane finish boiling away at room temerature ( butanes boiling point is extremely low ) and youl discover a puddle of some really sticky goo that smells like honey and pot smear that shit on a cig or nug stem or just your screen with a little ash and smoke up! i smoked a bb size peice and im so stoned i can barely type i love you guys and i thought you may want to know how to make the simpelest easies hash available it great i love it it even works with schwag my freind tells me i dunno tho i only smoke chron:D
affasd
04-25-2007, 07:18 AM
this sounds awesome, ill definately try it next time i pick up
FreeVenice
04-25-2007, 07:41 AM
Thanks, I have been looking for an easy way to do this. I am going to get on this with my trim and a nug or two. . .
passitplz
04-25-2007, 07:56 AM
Thanks, I have been looking for an easy way to do this. I am going to get on this with my trim and a nug or two. . .
tell us how it goes
I made a load of oil just last night and made some brownies - but i've yet to start muncing on them. I've made em with oil - so im going to be absolutly wasted. and i can wait.
FreeVenice
04-25-2007, 11:50 AM
tell us how it goes
LOL, 
Chop it up, 
Pack it in, 
Pour it though,
into a tin, 
Dries in a few, 
Smoke all the goo!!!
Delta9 UK
04-25-2007, 09:37 PM
BHO Limericks FTW!
Excellent technique - but remember girls & boys ~ teh butane killzz - do this outside
nightlight
04-25-2007, 11:11 PM
how much resulting oil can you get out of a pen tube filled with pot?
FreeVenice
04-26-2007, 01:37 AM
enough if you keep going. . . probly like a gram or two.
invision
04-26-2007, 01:49 AM
just made some and was surprised how much i got, its loaded in the pipe and ready for lift off, BRB.
*edit*
well im sold on this one i used barely a bowls worth and im baked......nice :thumbsup:
fancy boots
04-26-2007, 03:01 AM
Interesting...sounds like it would work =)
stonerkid1234
04-26-2007, 04:27 AM
That awesome can anyone post some pics when I do this I want to make sure i do it right. Thanx
Andrew Nguyen
04-26-2007, 04:33 AM
BHO Limericks FTW!
Excellent technique - but remember girls & boys ~ teh butane killzz - do this outside
True. Be safe.
grasshopper420
04-26-2007, 07:05 AM
lol you guys are definetly welcome and yeah be fucking careful with that shit dont do it while smoking if you want alot more oil and have the nug to spare use a small peice of pvc pipe and the end caps that seal put a hole in one end screen it put another hole to fit a pen cap injector port into and rock on youve got a tube good for alot of oil btw that oil fucks you up one hit stoned if you give it 10 mins to kick in and three hits later i was mindfucked "Carter, pass me my thinking grenades."
rnichilo
04-26-2007, 07:28 AM
add a few pics and this should be stickied lol i make hash with my grinder with trichome catch, but i still want to try this, it sounds cool :rastasmoke:
Little Boy
04-26-2007, 10:40 PM
yeah uh....where do u put the screen? 
1. hollow out pen
2. drill hole in black cap on back of pen
3. pack with bud
4.put butane in 
  and why do u use the can? so u can easily collect the oil?
Brett1038
04-26-2007, 10:54 PM
how long do you inject the butane for and can you use a regular cup or is a soda can neccesary
smokealot123
04-26-2007, 11:36 PM
pics please lol
slipknotpsycho
04-26-2007, 11:41 PM
that particular method was the same i learned from whiterhino or someone with a name like that...
i never thought to use a pen to extract lesser ammounts... i had only previously known of pvc pipe and about an oz of weed or more...
i did the extraction with a pensful (about a joint or so) and put all that i got on a paper, and rolled up a j...
i was coughing the whole way through :p a good sign...
slipknotpsycho
04-26-2007, 11:42 PM
how long do you inject the butane for and can you use a regular cup or is a soda can neccesary
til the liquid coming out is completely clear... takes about 5 seconds or less? doesn't take long...
IVIega
04-28-2007, 04:36 AM
hey wasup just wondering when is enough and can you smoke wats in the pen also what is the best method for collection of said product
FreeVenice
04-28-2007, 10:27 AM
Make sure it's the best Butane, I got "the best on earth". . .lol
Delta9 UK
04-29-2007, 08:56 AM
YES - you must use pure Butane a lot of Butane has Merceptanes(sp?) added that make that rotten-egg smell and this will thoroughly fuck-up your bho.
Check for "extra / ultra pure" or "purified" butane - if anyone asks tell em its for your Uncle's mega-expensive lighter that screws up with regular butane :)
TokinSurfer
04-29-2007, 10:10 AM
how do you know when the butane is 100% evaproated because what if it wasnt and you lit up and your cone when in flames? Please poast some pics someone, im not fully sure how to do it
slipknotpsycho
04-29-2007, 10:11 AM
how do you know when the butane is 100% evaproated because what if it wasnt and you lit up and your cone when in flames? Please poast some pics someone, im not fully sure how to do it
when it stops bubbling completely.
TokinSurfer
04-29-2007, 10:21 AM
does it bubble at room temperature?
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 04:07 AM
how do you know when the butane is 100% evaproated because what if it wasnt and you lit up and your cone when in flames? Please poast some pics someone, im not fully sure how to do it
First, let me answer this. The can that I am useing is 5 times filtered or something. Just read the can for the best quality. Second, do NOT put it over a flame, not if you value you life. Butane is majority gas not liquid. . . Butane evaporates rapidly, there is no need for anything but ventalation. When you are doing it in a small scale like this it is ready in minutes. just do it on a mirror and have a razor handy to scrape everything up. If you use pure butane everything unwanted will evaporate in moments. and you can really tell when its ready. . .the bud will be dry, and there will be a brownish gell left over. The shade changes with quality. . .
slipknotpsycho
04-30-2007, 04:14 AM
does it bubble at room temperature?
yes, but you can speed it up by getting a bowl that's bigger thenw hat you got your butane in, and putitng some luke warm water in it, hten setting the smaller bowl (with the butane and honey oil) in that pot... don't let any water get in, it doesn't have to be that deep... like a half an inch
jaGerbom
04-30-2007, 04:23 AM
:wtf: im confused.
ill read it again in a second but yeah. im confused.
and something about mixing butane and weed and smoking the result seems weird to me. im confused.
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 04:32 AM
Butane evaporates, nothing but what was already is there left over. If you use butane with no addatives that is.
BlAzInIt4:20
04-30-2007, 04:43 AM
An easier way of doing it is to get some piping from homedepo and some connectors close of the ends and put a hole small enough on the top for the butane and then put holes on the other side alllll over.. pack that shit with weed.. get a hot bowl of water and then a glass plate put it on top of the water in a very warm environment.. then spray your can in the tube, let it drip out the other side onto the plate let it sit for a day or so... and waaalaa the best damn oil evaa lol...you will be scraping that plate clean... and the piping is better i think... you can use a lot more weed...OH  and a heads up to all that is trying make sure you buy plenty of butane  one can isnt as much as you think :thumbsup:
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 05:46 AM
This way is only good if you want like 1-2 bowls
BlAzInIt4:20
04-30-2007, 11:27 AM
shit not the way i do it... you get enough to last you atleast a week... oh but i used mad butane and had alot of weed... so0o0o.. umm... guess it all depends huh
sewy7d2
04-30-2007, 07:47 PM
so the butane pulls the THC out of the weed that fast? i thought it took alot longer
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 07:51 PM
Not with butane. . .other forms of extraction take alot longer. . .
so the butane pulls the THC out of the weed that fast? i thought it took alot longer
No. The butane doesnt pull anything from the plant. The trichomes contain the highest level of THC CBN CBD CBG. These are the things that either on their own, or together make you stoned/high. When the trichomes are growing on the plants, they are a mushroom shaped capsule of oil - the THC CBN CBD CBG is inside this oil. The drying and curing method crysalises this oil - and you get crystalls. Also, the curing process activates more THC and cannabinoids which add to the effects. The butane basically disolves the crystalls so they are oil again - you collect the oil and butane mixture - the butane evapourates and taaa daa - you've got the oil which contains very high levels of THC CBN CBD CBG.
Gunner420
04-30-2007, 09:44 PM
man this is awesome....i will definately try this
someone should post up a vid on youtube though so we get a better idea
i have 2 questions though
1-about how much does the pure butane cost? (per can)
2-has anyone ever tried drinking the final substance? if so how bad does it taste?
man this is awesome....i will definately try this
someone should post up a vid on youtube though so we get a better idea
i have 2 questions though
1-about how much does the pure butane cost? (per can)
2-has anyone ever tried drinking the final substance? if so how bad does it taste?
You cant drink it. It's a thick guey oil. I suppose if you disolved the hash oil in some more normal oil it'd be the right viscosity to drink - but drinking oil is never a good idea. 
Using it in cooking will blow your head off. I experienced the most amazing things cannabis has ever done to me by using hash oil in brownies.
sewy7d2
04-30-2007, 10:11 PM
hmmm i happen to have two cans of butane around the house. one is Ronson ultra butane fuel and the other is Bernzomatic butane. i'm a little hessitant to try it becuase there is a warning on the can bernzomatic can that says this fuel, and byproducts of combustion of this fuel contain chemicals that are known to cause cancer.
how can you be sure that ALL the butane (and any other miniscule chemicals) are out of the oil?
slipknotpsycho
04-30-2007, 10:24 PM
you use certain butanes.... i use ronson myself... certain butanes are completely safe because they have no additives, and some have addititves.
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 10:29 PM
hmmm i happen to have two cans of butane around the house. one is Ronson ultra butane fuel and the other is Bernzomatic butane. i'm a little hessitant to try it becuase there is a warning on the can bernzomatic can that says this fuel, and byproducts of combustion of this fuel contain chemicals that are known to cause cancer.
how can you be sure that ALL the butane (and any other miniscule chemicals) are out of the oil?
You can do a mirror test. Spray it onto a mirror, if it evaporates completly, with nothing left over, it is the one to use. Although when you wash the buds with it there might be a liquid left over besides the oil, that just came from the buds. . . test it on a mirror first.
FreeVenice
04-30-2007, 10:33 PM
2-has anyone ever tried drinking the final substance? if so how bad does it taste?You can disolve it in a strong alcohol, 150proof & up. I use Everclear, it's another way to make Green Dragon. You can even heat the GD a little after to get more out of the mix. You don't drink that staight though, mix it with coffee or juice or something. . .
sewy7d2
04-30-2007, 10:57 PM
just did the mirrow test with both bernzomatic and ronson. both left the mirror perfectly clean. this doesnt neccesarily mean its pure, but probably pretty damn close.
FreeVenice
05-01-2007, 12:55 AM
If there is nothing left, then I say go for it. . .
smoknzpot
05-01-2007, 09:15 AM
i have found myself the easiest way to make a decent amount of oil is using Isopropyl alcohol & using a crockery dessert bowl to burn off the excess alcohol resulting in a very tacky golden goo that just fucks you up but you have to do it on the lowest heat on your stove top or just leave it in the sun to naturally evaporate lol fuck im stoned lol soak weed in alcohol overnite just enuf alcohol to barely cover the top of the weed then strain thru a coffee filter & slowly reduce the resulting liquid with a *very low heat* (extremely flammable
Heating Alcohol is very dangerous - i wouldnt advice anyone to do it. Not even on a low heat.
TokinSurfer
05-01-2007, 10:39 AM
i just did it, my room is full of butane, i dipped some buds in it becuase there was no way in hell on scraping it out.. impossible to make a perfect hole in the cap..
smoknzpot
05-01-2007, 11:18 AM
i have done it with alcohol thousands of times & have never had a problem as long as theres plenty of ventilation & you use a crockery dish that disperses heat evenly you should be fine
smoknzpot
05-01-2007, 11:20 AM
just a quick addition DO NOT LET IT BOIL just simmer it off blowing over the top of the bowl keeps it from boiling or a fan on lowest setting you want it to evaporate not overheat
sewy7d2
05-02-2007, 01:05 AM
ok so i tried this last night. the first time i dont think i did it right. the butane just shot through the tube and pooled up clear. i let it dry and there was nothing there. nothing to scrape up. so i packed the same weed alot tighter and tried it again. same result (probably screwed the weed the first time). after that didnt work i decided to not let the weed go to a complete waste and smoked it (a little under two bowls). after smoking all of it i got a SMALL buzz, so most of the THC went somewhere...just dont know where. any ideas?
slipknotpsycho
05-02-2007, 01:08 AM
was the plate/bowl sticky afterwards?
with just a bit of weed it doesn't just like pour off leaving some huge pile... maybe about enough to coat a paper with...
Little Boy
05-02-2007, 01:29 AM
was the plate/bowl sticky afterwards?
with just a bit of weed it doesn't just like pour off leaving some huge pile... maybe about enough to coat a paper with...
I agree...I tried this with a bowl or two of high quality ganja and all I got was a thin sticky substance...couldn't even collect the stuff so I just smoked the weed
4gan2ja0
05-05-2007, 04:48 PM
can you put pics of what to do with the pen, im completely confused haha
slipknotpsycho
05-05-2007, 07:27 PM
i'll post some in a bit..
Gunner420
05-05-2007, 08:39 PM
one more thing how come i cant just let it keep running the clear liquid out and mabye get mroe oil??
because once its running clear that means no more THC is being extracted.....when its clear its only butane thats coming out
slipknotpsycho
05-05-2007, 09:45 PM
it is nessicary to have atleast one click pen (you can do it with two tho) the tip of non-clicks is too big for the butane (i'm sure you could do it with some tape or soemthign tho, but this is the easiest...)
slipknotpsycho
05-05-2007, 09:46 PM
cont'd.
game_bluntz
05-06-2007, 03:11 AM
so u just left the other end of da pen on (the non writing end)?
slipknotpsycho
05-06-2007, 03:46 AM
so u just left the other end of da pen on (the non writing end)?
???
ok step by step as in the picutures....
(everythign is in bic brand, substitute as nessicary, i won't explain again, inginuiety can be used as nessicary... utimately you need a chamber to house th eweed, a tip for the fuel/oil to come out of, and a tip able to fit an airtight seal around the butane tip, and also depress the tip so it squirts butane out)
big pen (fixed from now on, refered to as BPF) and bic pen retractable (from now on refered to as BPR)
(REMEMBER, KEEP PERFECT SAFE CONDITIONS, IF YOU CAN'T CONTROL 'OUTSIDE CONDITIONS' DON'T FUCKING DO IT.. .YOU'RE RELEASING A GREAT QUANTITY OF A FLAMMABLE GAS ALL AROUND YOU... THE SLIGHTEST SPARK OR HEATING ELEMENT COULD SET IT OFF... BE SURE YOU'RE TAKING CAUTION, THIS ISN'T NO SHIT TO PLAY AROUND WITH OR SAY 'OH FUCK IT, I'LL BE OK'... NO FUCKING SMOKING, NO SPARKS, NO FLAMES... DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE EASE, OR THE USUAL FLAMMABLE WARNING, THIS SHIT IS HIGHLY FLAMMABLE...)
1. put both infront of you, remove the tips from both.
2. on the BPF, remove that nub at the end opposite the writing end (a knife works well, put it right between the colored plastic of the end and the clear (or white) plastic of tube, press in a bit, put your thumb on the body and pry it out (or however works best for you.. you need an undistorted bic pen tube, the BPF offers the most room)
3. put a lighter to the end of the tip from the BPR for a few seconds, just enough to see a couple of flare ups, and make the plastic moldable (the less heat the better, you just need to be able to push it down on the tip of the butane can to form around that tip) 
4. once it's hot and ready, push that end, slightly onto the BPR (it doesn't need to go in far, all tha tmatters, is there's a tight seal, and that it's able to catch and depress the nozzle, it takes like 1/16th of an inch or less... like the thickness of a blade... you DO NOT want the tip to press all the way through (where the writing tip used to come through when it was a pen) 
5. put the non melted tip, in. 
6. grind up the weed you plan to use, the finer the better... (literally, if you can get that shit like ground pepper, that's way better) slowly pack it in the pen, tightening that shit the best you can (there's alot of pressure in a butane can, don't worry what you would be able to hit, pack that shit in as TIGHT as you can, for this one instance, the tighter the better) 
7. stop packing it when there's just enough room to stuff in the butane end-tip (probably a little farther then you think... you're gonna use that butane tip-end to pack that weed in harder, about a 1/8 inch at most, you're gonna wanna shove this shit together as hard as you can... remember, air-tight= good) 
8. hold the non butane tip-end over a plate or bowl (very important it has a flat bottom, the flatter the better, the flatter it is, the less work it takes for you to get it out) 
9. push the butane tip in and discharge the butane until you're 100% sure all you see coming out is 100% clear liquid (trust me, you'll be able to tell, don't question yourself, the mor ebutane you use the longer it takes, by like a minute... there is no over doing it...)
10. if using a plate, set it aside and let it evaporate naturally, shouldn't take but like 5-10 minutes AT MOST (if it even takes that long) if using a bowl, you can get a larger bowl and just put in like a half inch of luke warm-warm water, and set the bowl containing your product in that.. it'll greatly rapidize the evaporation process...
ohyeah, if you're like me, you can smoke this and it's perfectly safe (so long as you'r eusing safe butane) afterwards... it won't give you much really, throw that shit in your 'what if' stash, or w/e you call your stash shoudl you run out of bud and can't find any.. (where most chunk their schwagg)...
it CAN still get you high (bu tit's really weak... lol) but anyone wiht a relatively constant supply would be better off just throwing it away.. this is for the people like me, who see hte shit months inbetween... it WILL NOT offer nearly as much as you'd expect even shitty shcwagg, but in desperate momments, it's there... ;)
slipknotpsycho
05-06-2007, 03:54 AM
oh the test for safe butane is as follows... get a mirror.. spray the shit on a mirror, set it aside... if everything evaporates and leaves no residue (of course it's important to start with a completely clean mirror) it's safe to use... if it leaves residue behind (you'll know, you ain't gotta ask) find a new one... ronson i swhat i've used so far.. most butanes are safe, the only reason for this warning, is cuz not ALL are safe..
FreeVenice
05-06-2007, 05:46 AM
Good show Slip....:thumbsup:
slipknotpsycho
05-07-2007, 04:42 AM
hmm what if i just keep on putting butane through the weed like i do it wait for it to evap and do it again.... keep repeating ... wat if
you're adding in a bunch of time... do whatever you want, but once that liquid runs clear, setting it aside and letting what you've got so far evaporate is not gonna put more extraction-capable material into your bud...
BUZz UK
05-08-2007, 10:49 AM
lmao @ anyone who didn't understand this. I tried it a week or so ago, i wiped up the oil with a tiny bud and smoked it, got about 11 -12 hits out of the fucker. Was BAKED too...
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