DONT SMOKE WEED KIDS, A NEW STUDY SHOWS PROOF OF A NEW PROBLEM

[xx32racer32xx]

"Adolescents' use of marijuana may increase the risk of heroin addiction later in life", as a new study sprinkles retardedness up your nose without asking you first

Why teenagers should steer clear of cannabis - drugs-alcohol - 05 July 2006 - New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/channel/being-human/drugs-alcohol/dn9488-why-teenagers-should-steer-clear-of-cannabis.html)

[xx32racer32xx]

Dont smoke weed, it could ruin your future as a heroin junkie! :(

[ZeldaG.]

oh my god they are thinking totally backwards!!! this is fucking hillarious!

i cannot bnelive that this sort of bullshit is printable!! cannabis makes heroin not as good so this means kids will be addicted to it cos they will take more of it!!! WHO SAYS I AM EVER GOING TO TAKE HEROIN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!


i mean... bloody hell some of these articles lack common sense so much that it makes it all feel pointless :S

[AlwaysBlazed]

we can't prove them wrong, you just have to have self-control, i have no desire to do heroin

[Maggz]

Shit I dont smoke weed because it sponsors terrorism.

[40oz]

I never believed it either....until one day after I smoked a blunt I found myself addicted to crack. Marijuana kills.

[OzzyOz]

"Now research in rats suggests that using marijuana reduces future sensitivity to opioids"

lol wtf?

who said i was gonna move on and start shooting up heroin???



bs article, kinda funy though

[Marijuana connoisseu]

"The researchers then examined specific brain cells in the rats, including the opioid and cannabinoid receptors. They found that the rats that had been given THC during adolescence had a significantly altered opioid system in the area associated with reward and positive emotions. This is also the area linked to addiction."

That's very interesting. They jump to a lot of false conclusions in the article though, and it's upsetting to see scientists spew shit from their mouths, knowing that it is shit, for a few bucks.

"We saw that the ones that had been on THC as teenagers stabilised their intake at a much higher level than the others"

That is a very interesting observation, though again I think they jump the gun on the hypothesis. They don't give any support to the claimed connection between developing opioid / cannaboid receptors, though, which is a shame. I'll be curious to see what happens if that turns out to be true.

[Coelho]

unfortunately, its true... i started smoking weed when i was a teenager, maybe 12-13 (i cant remember), then after some time i started harder drugs... specially heroin... and it had little efect on me, but i desired to do it so much i kept using and using it, until i had to inject 10g of it everyday... and as i kept smoking weed along using h, my sensitivity to it went too low i had to eat the h with the munchies, like 50g/day, for feel its effects... im a complete junkie... and everything started with a seemingly harmless joint... oh... how i regret it now... if i knew... my life would be so different... :( :sadcrying




























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[puddlecruzier]

humm thats odd cause i started with H 10 years ago that let to crack and from there i got hooked on Pot i must be going backwards. where do i go now.

[WeeDIndeeD420]

"research in rats suggests that using marijuana reduces future sensitivity to opioids, which makes people more vulnerable to heroin addiction later in life. It does so by altering the brain chemistry of marijuana users, say the researchers."

wtf, this is ignorant.... government schemes DUHNDUHNDUHNNNN:thumbsup:

[Delta9 UK]

what has New Scientist come to.....

They used to be pretty neutral with this sort of BS not showing often

[pass_the_dubbie]

what has New Scientist come to.....

They used to be pretty neutral with this sort of BS not showing often
They have to churn out some bullshit every so often to keep there money flowing....The scientists probably sit there, blaze it up then write this shit and laugh about it....

[lazy smoker7]

wow this article is stupid.... i smoked mj since I was 11 and I never going to even consider trying heroin. I mean all I have to say about this article is bs and its so stupid it made me laugh.... poor rats :( getting heroin... the doctors are the ones who forced them into heroin... the rats were just fine with THC!!!

[zebedee]

I thought 'sensi'ble thinkers had put pay to the gateway drug theory years ago when they worked out that people go on to harder drugs because the pot dealers also sell class A's, and therefore legalisation would stop the problem. I can't believe they're trying to resurect that old BS!!

Anyway, what's wrong with heroin?

[ZeldaG.]

They have to churn out some bullshit every so often to keep there money flowing....The scientists probably sit there, blaze it up then write this shit and laugh about it....


HAHAHA i can jsut imagine it...

they smoke a spliff then one is like: hey duuudee we should write something funny about the gateway theory...

another one: yeah duuuudee that would be cool..


and 5 hours later they release that bullshit...

[LaidZeppelin]

"In order to explore how the adolescent use of cannabis affects later drug use, Hurd and colleagues set up an experiment in rats aimed to mirror human use as closely as possible."

One problem scientist rats dont mirror human thought and emotions, which im sure play a vial role in adiction, at all...aimed to mirror humans? one big problem, ITS A FUCKING RAT!!!!!

[job1.5]

is it really scientific to look at the rats brains after they have been exposed to herion and thc. shouldnt they have looked at it after just the thc and then again after the herion?how about giving the rats a choice? let them choose between the thc and herion.ive smoked pot for 17 years and never tried any harder drugs.so i call this all bs.:pimp:

[mfqr]

I read this while really stoned a few weeks ago (on this board), and it ruined my high completely. It pisses me off.

No drug in existence makes people use other drugs. It's all in the person's personality. If there is any drug that aids in people deciding to use heroin, it would be prescription opiates, such as OxyContin, Morphine, Oxycodone, Codeine, etc. In fact, using morphine is basically using heroin, considering heroin is nearly exactly structurally the same as heroin (except that heroin acts quicker). A drug that is completely different from opiates is not going to cause tolerance from opiates... it doesn't make sense. Cannabinoid receptors are not opioid receptors. It's different. Look at this:

Marijuana and the Brain (http://users.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/Drugs/THC/Health/mj.brain.html)

"Marijuana should no longer be considered a serious drug of abuse because, as summarized by the OTA: "Animals will not self-administer THC in controlled studies . . . . Cannabinoids generally do not lower the threshold needed to get animals to self-stimulate the brain reward system, as do other drugs of abuse." Marijuana does not produce reinforcing effects."

That completely contradicts what these supposed scientists have said.

They don't need to study these again--they've ALREADY been studied! These are obvious lies and fabrications, with NO research and scientific study done beforehand... so it does not have a lick of truth.

Not only that, but like others have said, most of us here would never do heroin. I've done oxycodone, but that was before I've ever started smoking Cannabis. IN FACT, smoking Cannabis helped me get rid of my addiction to opiates! How ironic, you fucking lame scientists.

[jaGerbom]

i have been getting a craving for heroin lately.....




fucking buttpickers.




getahobby.

[User Name Here]

And I was just considering putting a needle in my arm.

[LIP]

1 puff on a joint and the next day you'll be laying in a squat in south london with a needle hangin out of your arm -

Hahahahaha - what aload of shite.

[Jah420]

they can f*ck right off

[Pumpkinpie]

The weed made me smoke heroin and it ruined my life


that article wasnt stupid at all

nope

[Fissle]

if you honestly believe that then go see a doctor because you might just be diagnosed with down syndrome. what type of shit is that? needles are FUCKED up, and I never plan to inject in my entire life. dont try and feed my brain shit like that because there is no way I am going to swallow it. that is like all the other shit saying how marijuana is highly addictive and is soooo bad. the government says a lot of shit, and you just pointed out a good chunk of it

[Nissan_420sx]

ohh you put the heroin in the needle... damn no wonder it wasn't working...

:yippee:

[4gan2ja0]

1 puff on a joint and the next day you'll be laying in a squat in south london with a needle hangin out of your arm -

Hahahahaha - what aload of shite.

no man, its true. after my first toke i knew instantaneously that i was gonna be a junky. and look at me now, im dying to get my fix. at least i got some bud and a few people locked in my basement due to the murderous rage that marijuana also induces.

[LIP]

LOL :D

[Antihero867]

Wow. So they finally ran out of excuses to make weed look bad so their gonna start useing old excuses that have failed already. Not only did they fail but were proven to be false.

[Harry Pot Head]

Time to educate my self by watching Reefer Madness :stoned:

For the evils of pot :D

[alexxanderr]

If they legalize it they will phase out the dealers and the harder illegal drugs by making the purchasing of marijuana available at a gas station near you :thumbsup::jointsmile:

[LIP]

Keeping it illegal is causing more problems for everyone, than if it was legal - anyone who disagree's is an idiot, because it's as plain as day to EVERYONE.

[Land of Drought]

True Lip but the idiots who can really affect change ant buying it
Brother..Simply as day follows night.......
Its all Propaganda we know it .,Your right they are idiots but they dont
give two craps what we beleave or what we know....

Sad but true.....

[VaporDaddy]

Now it all makes sense! I have been catching myself trying to jam things into my arm lately ( a turkey baster, the gas pump, a meat thermometer (98.2 BTW)). This marijuana is truly an evil weed!

[orangeman]

Wow I actually thought there was some new proof. Old tricks, new face..meh. Waste of my time. Ol' gate way theory eh? lol I love it. Well at least they admit that marijuana isn't really harmful lol. "The idea that smoking cannabis increases the user's chance of going on to take harder drugs such as heroin is highly contentious." Without admitting it, they know marijuana is safe haha.

[TallCoolOne]

lol....the big bad scary five leaved plants are at it again! run for your life! reefer madness!

[burnable]

I think if someone starts smoking weed then moves on to heroin, etc., he is either predisposed to bingeing on substances or there is some sort of mental trauma or insecurity that he is trying to escape at more extreme degrees the older he gets.

Some people also have a natural high tolerance for any type of inebriation. I remember being 13 or so and needing more of the pot or the alcohol to get to the same point as others (kids, don't drink).

I will say that mj can be addictive and does alter brain activity. That's what makes a drug a drug. Coffee is the same; different brain activity, different mood, etc. You can be addicted to coffee or mj, the difference is, they are mild substances, with mild temporary effects and mild long-term effects, and you can easily support those habits and live a normal life. The nature of a drug like heroin is one that makes it more difficult to support the habit and still function like everyone else.

[Spikedjester]

I think if someone starts smoking weed then moves on to heroin, etc., he is either predisposed to bingeing on substances or there is some sort of mental trauma or insecurity that he is trying to escape at more extreme degrees the older he gets.

Some people also have a natural high tolerance for any type of inebriation. I remember being 13 or so and needing more of the pot or the alcohol to get to the same point as others (kids, don't drink).

I will say that mj can be addictive and does alter brain activity. That's what makes a drug a drug. Coffee is the same; different brain activity, different mood, etc. You can be addicted to coffee or mj, the difference is, they are mild substances, with mild temporary effects and mild long-term effects, and you can easily support those habits and live a normal life. The nature of a drug like heroin is one that makes it more difficult to support the habit and still function like everyone else.

This is the best explanation as to why weed should be legal I have ever heard! :rasta:

[Esoteric416]

I'm glad I didn't smoke till I was 21 cause I couldn't afford a heroin addiction.
Dodged a bullet on that one.

[powerrobbie]

LOL!! such stupid mindless bullshit, you can not even compare the two substances, herion is not a drug..its a lifestlye:(

[defintion10]

heroin...just look at the people that use it...thats good enough to keep me from ever doing it

[Buddahbear]

Fuck this study! My FIRST drug was heroin (age 13, casual spike between a few buds) THEN i moved on to pot... WHERES MY FUCKING STUDY...

[rainbows.rsexy]

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[Justinrg]

Oh medical propaganda when does it end? :P

[Reefer Rogue]

Lol how can they post a study like that, with the word MAY. That's not scientific proof, it's a guess. We all know they're full of shit anyway. Cannabis helps people stop using heroine not the other way around. They always try to link cannabis to other actual dangerous drugs because guess what? Cannabis isn't dangerous!

[ubermoose]

I can only assume most of you didnt read the article.

Nowhere did it say that smoking weed will cause you to move on to heroin. All it does is briefly describe the gateway drug arguments. And even then, the scientists dont show which side they are on.

The idea that smoking cannabis increases the user's chance of going on to take harder drugs such as heroin is highly contentious. Some dub cannabis a â??gatewayâ?� drug, arguing that peer pressure and exposure to drug dealers will tempt users to escalate their drug use. Others insist that smoking cannabis is unrelated to further drug use.
All it says is that, if you smoke cannabis and then go on to take heroin, you will need more than usual to get your "fix".

However, personally, i dont think that it provides "overwhelming evidence that nobody in the brainâ??s developmental stage â?? under the age of 21 â?? should use cannabis". Just that if you do plan on taking heroin later in life, you might want to steer clear of cannabis.

[BallTillufall]

I just read it and it was pretty much bullshit.... weed isn't even close to the feeling of heroine, stupid people make those stupid mistakes, it'd be more in ur genes then because u smoked weed as a kid. Cigs are always called a gateway drug, but come on weed is not the gateway to heroine, ur just a child point blank STOP SMOKING WEED! j/k :D

[cannabis campbell]

1 puff on a joint and the next day you'll be laying in a squat in south london with a needle hangin out of your arm -

Hahahahaha - what aload of shite.

Haha thats what I was thinking!, To be honest after reading that I thought what a bunch of shit!, Of course you could compare these two drugs because they both utilise dopamine but one is a LOT more addictive than the other and they are both completely different drugs.

[voltabud]

Its great how dare and other programs try to scare kids rather than inform them. and articals like that are jsut retarted. i dont smoke weed because im addicted ( but that dosnt help ) i smoke cuz i like it. i dont want to shoot up heroin, because that can kill you. stick to the acid and shrooms, and weed, and ketamine sometimes.

[txbuddz]

if i was as stupid as a rat, been living in a glass aquarium forever, saw no value or point in life, and was hooked up to a heroin IV against my will, i would probably press the button once or twice to see what would happen. heroin is an addictive drug so yeah id end up doing it more and more

science expirements are supposed to answer questions, and an answer reguarding a rat cannot be juxtaposed to a question reguarding a human.

maybe they should try the expirement on humans?

so, in conclusion... rats tend to have addictive personalities.

(or at least thats all I got out of it...)