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kdspecial
04-15-2007, 05:58 AM
Heres some things that have been going on.....
I bit of a harvest on a plant, Its some good couch lock buzzz...
And then The Smash berrys and papya HAve been moved up into the top of the Cab(three Days ago) With the remaining floweirng plant (Afgan). The
AFgan should be ready ina week or so.
there isn't enough room for em all up top so I have one Smash berry remaining down low.
So far Sex looks like 2 positive females and two unknown.
I've decided to switch my growing into a Coco grow. Im nervous but there are just too many benifiits for me if I grow in Coco. I've tried Coco before and not had the best results. I plan to end that these next couple grows.
I have Botanicare Nutes, Bio-Gensis Synergy and Hightide. I think I should be good as long as I get good grade A Coco coir. I've got GroTek Coco earth preMixed Bag
Because Im hand watering in Coco Do I need to add anything else to my Botanicare Nutes, Bio-Gensis Synergy and Hightide?
Blue Bear mentioned CalMg I was thinking of BIO-GENSIS Mineral Matrix. I think it would provide the same trick. Wouldn't that just cover me for anything that would be missing in the Coco Coir?
Green Air Products - Bio-Genesis - a vegan plant supplement that is omri listed (http://www.greenair.com/bio-genesis.htm)
Any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks kd....
rhizome
04-15-2007, 11:51 PM
Mineral Matrix may be hard to find- I had to special order when I used it.
Fine product, though.
You should be fine w/ just the line-up you're using- if CA def shows, I'd go to the cal-mag. You're not going to need all the other stuff in the mineral matrix- I was only using it due to broad-range metal defs. Overdosage is as deadly as deficiency.
kdspecial
04-16-2007, 02:49 AM
Mineral Matrix may be hard to find- I had to special order when I used it.
Fine product, though.
You should be fine w/ just the line-up you're using- if CA def shows, I'd go to the cal-mag. You're not going to need all the other stuff in the mineral matrix- I was only using it due to broad-range metal defs. Overdosage is as deadly as deficiency.
thanks for the reply man, that BIO-GENSIS stuff is the products my local grow shop always pushes on me. I tried the synergy and it is awsome. I went in for superthrive and he sold me on synergy and I never doubt his opinion now.
Im excited to try out coco again. For my balcony garden (veggies) I decided to stick with Promix, Im thinking of mixing composted Sheep manure with it Does anyone think that mixing 50% Promix and 50% Sheep Manure with added perlite would be a good mix for the veggies? Or is that ratio to high?
thanks for the response guy
kd
stinkyattic
04-16-2007, 04:58 PM
Thirded on the CalMag
On Rhizome's suggestion I added it to my coco regimen about 2 weeks ago and cleared up the def symptoms I was having...
How ya been KD? Nice looking stash!
In the next episode of 'things that go down in KD's apartment'.... KD gets baked and makes a peanut butter and swiss cheese sandwich... STAY TUNED!!!
xxxhazexxx
04-16-2007, 05:06 PM
nice kd keep up the excellant work :thumbsup:
KL4D4
04-16-2007, 06:12 PM
So how are you going about drying, plant directly to jars?
kdspecial
04-16-2007, 06:19 PM
Thanks for the replys guys and Gals....
Looks like Ill be grabbing some CalMg next time im at the grow shop. I like to have everything just incase. this is my major hobby now anyways so I don't mind spending the doe...
Whats next for Kds Aprtment is Summer is here soon and KD Is gonna try and grow somthing NON illegal... Crazy eh??? I have my Hanging Tomatoe Baskets... ()Tomatoe plant hangs upside down perfect for my limited spac(FoxFarm Marine Cusine) And I have a bag of ProMix and a Bag of composted Sheep Manure and p[erlite...
Actully Stinky If you could help with my Ratio for The manure mix...
Is 40%ProMix 40% Sheep Manure and 20% Perlite Sound right with 30ml Dolomite lime per Gallon...
Does that soudn like a safe mix?
I will be adding the Marine Cusine (Slow Release Fert) to the top of the soil containers as I need it. Or If I feel the seedling plant is strong enough during transplant time to its perminant position. I may add the marine cusine right into my soil Mix. At 50% recomended dose...
How does that sound? Im looking for kinda easy on my balcony grow.. I like Veggies but I don't have the as much time to put into them as I do the Cannabizzle...
Plus I want my GF to have fun with them as well and be able to water them etc.. Without haveing to worrie about feeding them, mixing nutes and checking PH etc.
Any help is greatly appreciated.. Im getting PUMPED>..
kd
stinkyattic
04-16-2007, 10:03 PM
I don't know about that mix; I've never used sheep manure, I avoid any peat-containing product on principle (not that promix is bad, I just don't like the way peat holds moisture). Ask rhizome.
Hey... what about reusing your old coco from the canna projects? Flush out... add your manure... ??? Never tried this but hey why not experiment?
And what about hanging strawberries? YUMMMMM you can add them to your sammich :D
rhizome
04-17-2007, 01:15 AM
I'm not all that sure about sheep manure myself. My gut is that your mix is gonna be a little hot. How old's the manure? Commercial product or, ah, home-crafted?
Do you know what the diet is?
I'd prob cut that back to maybe 20% manure, less if it's local, even less if it's young ( less than two years).
If you're thinking promix, why not skip the manure entirely? Grab some osmocote, some bone meal, and a little rock phosphate, mix em into yer promix, and away ya go. Or if the osmocote oogs you out, use worm castings
Promix has some lime in it already- lemme look at a bag tomorrow and I can give a better idea. Too lazy to get up.
Remember that adding perlite will increase aeration, which means lowering waterholding capacity. Tomatos outside can move a fair bit of water. Size pots accordingly. Then move up one size.
If ya got old coco kicking around, and it's long grain, you could mix it in instead of some of the perlite, or as an adjunct. If it's used, and been wet/damp for a while, you might want to cut back on the phosphate a bit, and add a little more bone meal. Or you might not.
In terms of dead simple, I've got Big Boys going right now in coco-peat-sphagnum mix, on the BioCanna stuff- feed once a week, water as needed. No pH check, no dicking around. And they love it. ( Like alien tomacco love it).
Lemme know about the manure.
Chabnoc
04-17-2007, 01:37 AM
I was thinking, start with cherry tomatoes, High yield plant. But Stinky nailed it I think. Strawberries,, oh yah.. with some kind of netting to let it vien out, and also allow for lots of new pot to be added, as strawberries love to branch out on the grown and root again.
Hmm. I have an idea..
kdspecial
04-17-2007, 03:28 AM
Thanks for the replys guys.,..
I could use Coco for all the outside plants, Im just alittle nervous, Cuz I would hate my outside garden not to work out cuz I don't have all the right ferts etc.. Im not sure how old the manure is Its just shit I got at Canadian tire for likr 4 bucks a bag,,, Its probs garbage stuff but Its the only form of compost I can get at not having a car and all..
I think I should try some in Coco and some in proMix.. I need to keep this simple thast all. And I don't wanna always have to water with ferts. (thats why I got the slow release Fox Farm Marine Cusine. I still got some time to think about it Coco would probs be better for outside cuz it wont dry out as fast. I can get good quality Coco easier than getting promix.
promix doesn have lime in it but I figured the manure might lower the PH
my Tap water is 7ph.
Damm I got so much to learn.... I really want my Garden to turn out nice,, I want this one to be a grden I can actully show my Moms... and freidns... you know... the mary J garden no one sees except you folks...
Thanks for the inputs guys...
Im probs best to do some COCO and Marine Cusine and some ProMix Manure...
kd
rhizome
04-17-2007, 06:39 PM
If it's commercial manure, it's probabley pretty well ripe- You could try it at, say, 20%.
If you need more, you can always top-dress and water in- but it's a real bitch trying to get it out if you have too much:)
rhizome
04-17-2007, 06:43 PM
promix doesn have lime in it but I figured the manure might lower the PH
my Tap water is 7ph.
kd
Umm, the bag I'm looking at (ProMix BX) says that it contains dolomitic and calcitic limestone, which would be lime.
Ya pretty much need it to keep all that peat from bottoming out.
postmandave
04-17-2007, 07:19 PM
yeh kd watch the manure i would go as low as 20% especialy if its still active manure.I was told this was a prob i had with my cucumber bed i dug in fresh manure and it cuase all sorts of problem i was then advised to mix in the manure after the first frost and it would be ready for sowing the end of may.dont know if this is relavent lol the postman.
whisky
04-17-2007, 07:24 PM
my soil had penguin manure.. guano actually as they call it.. the ones that grew in it are pretty good, it goes for about 3 months.. and that takes you through a life of the plant.
rhizome
04-17-2007, 07:33 PM
Penguin?
Now that's esoteric.
kdspecial
04-17-2007, 07:33 PM
Thanks for the responses guys...
yeah I like to use the rule MORE IS LESS>.......
Espically when it comes to fertilizers... I have a few decisions to make before this weekend.
I will be putting the pots and soil mixes togethr this weekend. Its a little early still but I wanna really srapy the soil for bugs and shit befroe i put any seeds in those pots... And I might flush them through... I don't think thats nesseary,, I might do a watering with neem,,, or Safers End all... just to be sure there are no Thrip eggs hidding in the soil.. Or maure...
I think Ill do some in Coco and Some with peat,,,
I dont think ill add any Manure to the Coco though.,. I think Its best that I just use the marine cusine and My botanicare line up iin the coco. I suppose it safe to mix the two together but Since im not that familiar with coco. I think Ill hold off on adding anything to it untill I geta good hang of it.
Im getting real excited for this guys and gals... thanks for all the Info...
To manu decisions to make... COCO with manure? peat with Manure? All Coco grow....
kd
postmandave
04-17-2007, 07:46 PM
will be watching with intrest im currently starting using coco for my mothers and im very wary .best of luck.the postman
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