View Full Version : WEED SMOKERS ARE WE CRIMINALS OR VICTIMS?
robert42
12-17-2004, 02:37 PM
We smoke a plant thats illegal so are we Criminals or Victims?
Share Your Thoughts And ill Share mine ;)
Day Dreamin Faze
12-17-2004, 03:34 PM
Both. We are victims of the system but we are also criminals as long as its not totally legal.
robert42
12-17-2004, 03:41 PM
Smart Answer but i beleive were victims of a fucked up system that has been screwing us since day1 and were only criminals becos these people think it shuld b illegal
Skunkheadbill
12-17-2004, 03:51 PM
Yer i agree with rob
kr1Nx01
12-17-2004, 03:52 PM
It's a bit like (but to a much lesser extent) Jewish sypathizers during the Nazi occupation of Europe. They were criminals for boarding Jews, but was it wrong to do so? Absolutely not! They were protecting the freedoms of other human beings that were taken away by an oppressive government.
Marijuana smokers are victims, having to hide their habit from the general public... but does that mean marijuana use is wrong?
robert42
12-17-2004, 03:55 PM
oooo good reply kr1Nx01, Marijuana use aint wrong but breaking the law is but then again is breakin a law that is wrong, wrong?
NowhereMan
12-17-2004, 03:59 PM
we are victims of criminals
robert42
12-17-2004, 04:03 PM
yea the fuckin goverment are all fat cat criminals all they say is how black people deal drugs but black people dont own boats they dont own the planes and boats that are bringin the coke the heroin to our countries but they blame the people for a job they cant do properly.
were innocent but cos of the choice of herbs we choose to inhale were seen as criminals, FREEDOM OF SPEACH? Na they dont want u to b honest untill they take u down the police station if they wanted u to b honest theyd teach u honesty at school but hey what can we do were just pawns..
GHoSToKeR
12-17-2004, 04:34 PM
If you serve in the Army, and you get given an order that a normal citizen, not in combat, would consider immoral or unethical, then you can legally refuse to obey that order.. we've been ordered not to smoke cannabis, which is immoral and unethical, and we should be allowed to refuse to obey that order.. we refuse to anyway, but then we get sent to prison... so i dunno, we are breaking the law, which i guess would make us criminals, but we're not doing anything wrong.. even though, thinking for yoursef would be considered wrong by the fascist dictating twats that control us
Jimmicrackedcorn
12-17-2004, 04:43 PM
Not jus cannabis, but all drugs should be up to the individual.
Kombucha
12-17-2004, 04:43 PM
We are criminals, because we are breaking the law. If we get arrested we are victims of a hypocritical legal system, where alcohol is allowed but cannabis isn't. The only people keeping it illegal are the conservatives who think if it's a drug it must be bad, and we are probably all muggers.
BUZz UK
12-17-2004, 06:14 PM
it's a victimless crime. if the government made it legal, they could control the import and quality of weed. then they could stop whining that it fuels terrorism.
robert42
12-17-2004, 06:15 PM
another valid point but in my eyes were only criminals cos of the criminals if that makes sense lol
BUZz UK
12-17-2004, 06:19 PM
IMO we are only criminals because of the beaurocrats
robert42
12-17-2004, 06:28 PM
YUP THE FATTY CATTYS ALL GREED.
THINK IF MARIJUANA WAS LEGAL AND THEY SOLD HEMP PRODUCTS AND THE MONEY USED FROM THE HEMP PRODUCTS OPENED SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS PEOPLE WOULD SAY DRUGS PAID FOR THIS SCHOOL/HOSPITAL W/E AND IT WOULD GO AGAINST CERTAIN PEOPLS BULLSHIT ETHICS. NOT JUST THAT MAYBE IF MORE PEOPLE WERE RESPONISIBLE WE WOULDNT BE LABLLED CRIMINALS.
ermitonto
12-17-2004, 06:39 PM
It is only the system of punishing people for consentual, i.e. victimless, crimes that makes us both criminals and victims. I just found a book on the subject this morning (full text online at http://www.drugtext.org/library/books/aint/toc.htm ) called Ain't Nobody's Business If You Do which makes the case much more eloquently than I ever could, explaining how much energy is lost and how much damage is done to society and individuals by criminalizing acts that don't harm anyone else's bodies or properties.
BOgart.bitch
12-17-2004, 06:41 PM
We are criminals, because we are breaking the law. If we get arrested we are victims of a hypocritical legal system, where alcohol is allowed but cannabis isn't. The only people keeping it illegal are the conservatives who think if it's a drug it must be bad, and we are probably all muggers.
stereotypical closed minded self righteous bastards that they are :mad:
but i agree 110% :D
robert42
12-18-2004, 11:45 AM
Interesting link ermitonto thanks for that ;)
daZenfmeister
12-18-2004, 08:08 PM
Well I'd much rather be going to a school built by Marijunana money than by the taxes from alcohol and cig's like they are now.
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