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atsar
06-19-2007, 08:29 PM
usually by now i'd have been using full strength nutes,usually after around a week or 2 of flower i'm on full strength,and at the stage you're at i'd be nuting every other watering,though i never feed after 6 weeks,not nutes anyway though do still give mollasses until harvest,well no N in mollasses
perhaps you could try some of them
can i assume you didn't want to over nute your ladies and that's why you aint been giving them?that's all good and well but your plants do need nutes,not enough nutes is just as bad as too many imo,either way you're plants miss out
oh by the way,they're looking good man
Shovelhandle
06-19-2007, 08:48 PM
Orange,
these plants just start to take off sometimes. Update when things happen.
Shovelhandle
orangeman
06-19-2007, 09:53 PM
can i assume you didn't want to over nute your ladies and that's why you aint been giving them?that's all good and well but your plants do need nutes,not enough nutes is just as bad as too many imo,either way you're plants miss out
Lol that's exactly why I haven't given them nutes like I know I should. It's just if you go back in the log you'll see that there was a time when I was having problems with pesticide. Well funny thing is I started giving them vegetative nutrients too. So every since then I have been very skeptical about giving them nutes. I still don't know if it was the pesticide or the nutes that caused the new growth at that time to look retarded with brownish/blackish tips. I guess it can't hurt to try, if I give 'em too much I can just flush right? I think that's what I'll do because I don't want to under-feed them. Also I am constructing a ScroG screen. I believe I will be using feminized beans next time so my fear of training males is gone. I'm constructing it out of wire hangers. Got the idea from ICM. It might not be the most sturdy screen but it's better than nothing. I wasn't going to even do it if I couldn't find an easy way to do it. Now I just need something for the squares and something for the legs. It's not the best screen but as long as I can train my plants with it then it's ok :). I couldn't duct tape the cut off ends yet because the tape is in my room and the lights are off lol.
Screen is intended for two plants. One thing I haven't figured out though is how I'm going to water them and flush them in that small room and get the run off water out of their pans successfully :-/..
atsar
06-19-2007, 10:24 PM
my scrog was real tight too,i used a watering can with a hose attached,and i used trays for run off,if you know how much to give,you don't get much run off,so i just let the plant soak it back up,usually only took around 20 mins
big beano
06-19-2007, 10:39 PM
hey orangeman should use coir pots or peat pots to start your plants in they are about 1 1/2" or 2" square you put potting compost or soil in them and when you come to repot them you dont need to take em out of these pot the disintgrate and roots grow through them save a fuck of a lot of time stress
orangeman
06-19-2007, 10:50 PM
Nah I don't want to use peat pots. I seen the results of those. I'm just gonna use a styrofoam cup to start them off and when they get big enough put them in the same pots I'm using now and leave them there until they need to be chopped.
Bree1978
06-20-2007, 02:50 PM
Things look good. As for the time of flowering, you hit the nail on the head. My plants are going a lot faster now that I have more light.
you do not have light leaks do you? that was the edit, afterthought I had.
Looking forward to your updates, even though I've only popped in once before.
:jointsmile: Bree
orangeman
06-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Nope no light leaks but I think it's the simple fact that I don't have enough lights to support the whole big branch of my plant. That's why I designed two separate screens for my next grow for a ScroG so I can get even light to the whole canopy.
orangeman
06-21-2007, 03:27 AM
I'm starting to notice new "differences" and I was wondering if anyone could help me identify it before it gets any worse than what it is. I really don't think it's mites. I notice these little small things flying around but I didn't think they were really any harm because the fan always blows them off so they can never land on the plants to do anything if they were to do anything at all.
I was thinking it was heat burns but I keep a fan blowing on them. I guess it's not enough. Is it heat burns or what?
Also I'm wondering if my bud leafs are suppose to be this light of green?
Bree1978
06-21-2007, 03:32 AM
It could be water spot burns, it didn't matter for me if I had a fan blowing on them or not....if I leave just a little water on them it sears them. Could it be that? Or are you getting condensation when your lights are off, and perhaps getting burned in the morning? Now that I see the pics, yes that is what it looks like.
It's not thrips though, is it? you said flying things. take a look at the thrips on the icmag thread.
The lighter color doesn't look good. Some is normal, but yours looks a little different than what I have experienced.
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles! (http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688)
:jointsmile: Bree
orangeman
06-21-2007, 03:44 AM
Well I don't know much to do. Should I give them some vegetative nutrients for the lighter green or should I just give them some more flowering nutes? Well it says iron deficiency is caused from too much phosphorus nutes. So should I flush them and wait to see what happens or what? I don't know what to do because the leaves looks dark enough, I don't want to over feed them but I don't know why the leaves look green like this. Why out of all the time these things have been growing it has to give me problems now....*sigh*.. Also no I'm sure they aren't getting any water on them. I don't see how any water could have touched the leaves, I never bring water any where near the tops. And the lights turn off at about 9:35 am, they turn on at 9:25 pm. So I don't know anything about what goes on in the morning. I'm usually still sleep after the lights go off.
The only thing I can think of about that condensation thing is the dehumidifier was full and the temps dropped to like 78 when it's usually like 85 but I don't think that's enough to cause the water burns is it? And btw no I don't think it's thirps. I seen what thirp damage looks like and I don't notice that any where on my plants.
Bree1978
06-21-2007, 04:49 AM
I wouldn't stress about the water spots. Those marks could be from just rubbing the plants together too...and I wouldn't feed, just water with your ph'd plain water and see how that goes. Don't flush, that will stress them more, it doesn't look severe, just something to keep your eye on. Perhaps it was just a tad too much for them, but in a water or two they'll need nutes again and be more able to handle them. hell, maybe they are pretty nomal for the strain you have. I don't think alarms are going off yet, soil has been very forgiving for me!
When you do give nutes again, don't give any veg nutes. I missed it, what bloom nutes are you using?
:jointsmile: Bree
orangeman
06-21-2007, 02:06 PM
.....for fuck sake. Well I took matter into my own hands and just decided to give them some more flowering nutes. But that was before I came back on here to read. I was guessing since I only gave them full nutrients once and since the leaves were lighter I was thinking it was a deficiency thing rather than something that was "too much". Probably gave them too much water most of the time when I water them so I figured they probably wanted more nutrients. Let's just hope when I go back down there tonight they aren't burned from the nutes I gave them. If so I guess I'll have to flush *sigh*...You just mentioned something about iron and I read the back of my nutes (FloraNova Bloom) and it said iron was one of the supplements so I...basically went full strength again and gave them just a little bit. But I had already watered them with a weaker strength solution earlier..like 10 mins earlier before I gave them just a bit of full strength. Well, let's just hope they have been waiting for another good feeding like that and don't overreact on me. Also I moved the lights to 17'' away from tops just in case any heat stress was the reason for the twisted guard leaves on buds and burns on the leaves.
Bree1978
06-21-2007, 03:05 PM
.....for fuck sake.
I started laughing when I read that! Sorry, I don't mean to poke the bear....I think I heard some growling while reading it, ha ha.
I always water my plants A LOT- when they need it. It seems to help keep the ph in ck for me.
I'll ck in tonight to see how it is going. At five weeks of flower, maybe it is just what they needed, I just am not sure and that is why I said don't go off on a tangent doing stuff, lol. If you haven't fed since last week, I doubt you burned them. If they are burned (and I mean significantly not just some burnt tips), you can always give them a nice plain ph'd water like you mentioned (with a smidgen of a 1/4 stregnth nutes at the end to make sure they have something to eat).
I've been going everyother water almost but I have a lot of light. Now I'm on six weeks and no nutes anymore because I use chemical ferts. On my floro grow (mostly, the last four weeks were hps) I nuted maybe three times in flower before just giving them molassess/water or plain ph'd water. I stopped at six weeks, but they were more advance than yours are now (I introduced that Hps which changed the ballgame).
Again, I'll be thinking about them, and try not to stress, you haven't lost them.
:jointsmile: Bree
orangeman
06-21-2007, 03:31 PM
Lol yeah, I guess I just act too fast. I just like to make sure they're fine at all times, I don't even like things to go wrong for a second. They are in 3 gal pots and I used to give them each 1 gal of water. They would run down with so much run off water. I don't think I'm going to keep doing that though, I'm gonna try to just give them just enough water but not enough to make tons of run off. I would be emptying my trays about 5 times before they are doing leaking, and even then there is still some run off that comes out after like 20 mins later of them just sitting lol. But I haven't been feeding them much so I think I might feed them one more time next week.
I really think I only fed them about 4 times, this time being the 4th. I guess I have always been easy about nutes because I gave them 1 TSP of vegetative nutes (FloraNova Grow) when they were just growing, at 4 weeks and 4 days and they still really didn't seem to like it. So I thought that stuff was too strong. I'm going to try not to stress Bree lol. I'll see them later on tonight so I'll see how they are. And actually I made a miscalculation. This is the 6th week already. I was going by the weeks to determine the maturity before but I guess the amount of days doesn't mean a thing. I'm just gonna go by what satisfies me from now on to determine when to start flowering and when to harvest..
Bree1978
06-21-2007, 03:43 PM
but I guess the amount of days doesn't mean a thing. I'm just gonna go by what satisfies me from now on to determine when to start flowering and when to harvest..
Words to live by.........:)
and about the watering thing, I've always read that when you water your plants you should achieve a 10 percent run-off. I always supercede this, but that is what works for me!
:jointsmile: Bree
TheGreenFog
06-21-2007, 08:53 PM
ffs
:D
The Fog :rastasmoke:
orangeman
06-22-2007, 01:55 AM
Well I checked them just now. They're fine. Looks like the light green is coming back a little darker. Well I'm just gonna keep waiting until they get fatter and fatter and get ready for harvest lol :stoned:
Bree1978
06-22-2007, 03:53 AM
Right on, man! :thumbsup:
:jointsmile: Bree
orangeman
06-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Yar, I guess I'll give a picture update next week. God I can't wait to sample these things. One question though, if I decide to sample anything where should I get the sample from? Of course I'd get it from one of the bottom pop corn nugs but will it affect my plants growth any? I'll just wait until it's all done if it slows growth down any, I'm already pushing it with 250 watts of light that can't even get that close so I don't want to slow down anything.
the image reaper
06-22-2007, 03:42 PM
Orangeman, you can snip off buds for tasting, from anywhere on the plant ... only the growing tip should be left alone at this stage, unless you are having a height problem ... only take a couple samples, too much snipping can stress some sensitive plants :smokin:
orangeman
06-22-2007, 07:11 PM
Orangeman, you can snip off buds for tasting, from anywhere on the plant ... only the growing tip should be left alone at this stage, unless you are having a height problem ... only take a couple samples, too much snipping can stress some sensitive plants :smokin:
Yar I only need one sample. But I really don't think I'm going to take a sample until a few days before harvest because the buds that are developing a lot of maturing trichomes and are getting big I don't want to cut down because I want them to reach their full potential of potency and weight and the ones that I would cut down to sample doesn't have mature enough trichomes yet lol. It's a trip but I'm not stressing it. I've made it this far, I can wait.
orangeman
06-22-2007, 10:38 PM
Man...next time I do a log, I'm not naming it a log. Honestly this is more like a journal lol. I'm only doing journal grows for now on because I just feel like posting my thoughts well just because..I thought you all would care to hear em. Anyways I've decided to let my plants grow until they are about 50/50. Half cloudy and half amber. I was going to try and get a decent size and cut them down when they were mostly cloudy and clear because I wanted a more rushy "clear" high and I heard that's how I would achieve that..well I just got high from weed from 4 blunt roaches and I have to say regardless of the high, if I smoke enough I will get fucked up. And this is really a mix in-between the two going on at the moment so I figure it wouldn't be bad to let some go amber. Hopefully that'll allow the buds to get bigger in size in the process of that happening as well.
orangeman
06-25-2007, 02:39 AM
I think I have a hermie flower. That white ball thing that I was talking about has now turned green and it looks flat and opened by 4 sides. I think it was a hermie and I really hope it didn't pollinate my garden. I accidentally cut off two fan leaves already from the same plant but maybe I need to cut that flower off just to be sure? I don't want to but it doesn't look like a flower or a seed pod so I'm convinced it has went hermie on me. I don't want to cause uneeded stress and I know if it looks how it did it already did what ever it was going to do to my garden but I just want to be safe.
orangeman
06-25-2007, 02:51 AM
Btw when I slightly opened it, it had little white hairs. But it's like a big green ball, but it had white hairs in it. I had a pin to poke it and mess with it. I know it wouldn't be the smartest thing to do if I thought it was a male part but I just wanted to find out. Could it be just a dead flower that never developed? I never seen that any where in my garden and it's a first.
orangeman
06-25-2007, 03:07 AM
Here's pics. The last two are not ones I'm concerned about. Just pictures I decided to upload. The first three though are the ones I was talking about above. Also sorry for the three posts in a row but I didn't think I was going to take pictures until I realized people might not realize what I was talking about. I recently lost the card to my camera so now even if I wanted to upload pics I won't be doing that too much because I don't feel like plugging my cam up to a USB port and then uploading it through the Kodak program. I rather just take the pics, take the card out and stick it into my computer and copy them...lost card though, hopefully I'll find it soon :-/...
atsar
06-25-2007, 11:54 AM
that just looks to me like the plant slowed growth and the leaves have become a bit retarded,i found a lot like that towards the end of my scrog,think it occured after 2nd growth spurt came to an end
on the upside i found these bits to be super sticky,more so than the rest of the bud,really full of resin and the stone was better than from the regular looking buds
i've been meaning to ask/mention,what spray are you using on your plants?you seem to spray them an awful lot,not having a go but,did you say it was a spray that was suitable for edible crops up until the day of harvest??or is it specifically for cannabis
because if it is just for edible crops,you need to keep in mind that you aint gonna be eating this crop,and nobody gets lung cancer from eating tobacco
guess what i'm saying is be careful,don't want you fucking yourself up smoking some dodgy chemical that's safe to eat
still looking good man
Bree1978
06-25-2007, 12:17 PM
Looks normal. Mine look like that too....I think it is higher heat coupled with slightly high humidity (weather has been crazy here), makes them grow a little strange. You'll see it in my update in the next few days too.
That thing you broke open was probably just a swollen calyx....some of them look like male parts or *gasp* seeds to me too. I suppose we'll get better at recognizing them as time wears on.
:jointsmile: Bree
r00tdoctor
06-25-2007, 12:50 PM
It dont look like a bannana to me either, looks more like some sort of alien squid.
Nice to see your grow progressing along. My grow will be done shortly also.
Lol im high upon closer inspection it looks like the "audrey II" from the movie little shop of horrors ... lol
orangeman
06-25-2007, 01:14 PM
Actually atsar I haven't sprayed my plants since the beginning of the 3rd week of the flowering. Tuesday (tomorrow) makes the 7th week. I got my timing messed up and now the growth weeks are correct. As for the male parts hopefully those parts you are talking about are the skinny leaves because I don't notice anything but calyxes on my flowers. I had been suspected of pollinated flowers though every since I tried moving my male out so maybe I was right. I do believe they are possibly pollinated. But I know my other plant isn't. Ah either way it goes at least I'll have something good to smoke, those trichomes are just developing every day and look freggin awesome lol.
FreeVenice
06-25-2007, 05:49 PM
So can I see some pics. today?
atsar
06-25-2007, 08:21 PM
yeah i read back through and noticed it had been a while since you sprayed,it was something i meant to ask so many times before but just kept forgetting
orangeman
06-25-2007, 08:58 PM
So can I see some pics. today?
Well since you asked for them then I will use the 7 shots that I can take with my internal memory and try to get some good pictures tonight :).
horror business
06-25-2007, 11:29 PM
Orangeman... your plants look damn nice. Those buds are going to be great. I wish I had my plants still, as they would be flowering as well.
I can't wait to see more pictures. I haven't said much during the past few weeks on your grow, because you seem to be doing fine. and others seem to be helping you out fine.
well, good luck, and i'll be checking in later tonight in hopes of more pictures.
peace,
hb
orangeman
06-26-2007, 01:58 AM
Well instead of waiting for the lower growth to catch up I decided to aid it a bit and I added a 100 watt incandescent bulb. Not like I'm trying to get any explosive growth, I really feel any type of intense light below will help those buds get bigger faster so I added it. Funny thing is the minute I turned it on 3 little pests came out. Looked like flying ants. Don't know where the hell they came from but thank God for Fox Farms Don't Bug me I only had to spray 2 of those things once and they died. The 3rd one lol...it flew on a bug trap that I have been dying to see if it works. It worked, that thing isn't going anywhere. But anyways here are some more pics.
Btw does anyone know if there are timers available with two optional plugs? As in a timer that allows more than one plug to be plugged into it. I have to turn off the incandescent manually but as long as it helps I'll do what I have to.
orangeman
06-26-2007, 11:41 AM
One pic of those bugs that just came outta no where and of the lower growth and bulb.
orangeman
06-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Ok what the fuck...either i'm tripping out or timer got screwed up again. It's 8:25 and the last time I waited for my light to go completely off it was at 9:35 am. Why the fuck is it off! What the hell is going on!! If it does that tomorrow should I turn it back on or just leave it...
edit: Well I know the light turned off and then I turned it back on and then back off again but I decided to go down there and turn it on again and adjust the timer. There is no reason why that thing should have turned off, it turns on at 9:25 so dammit it's going to stay on until it reaches that same hour. And this is the same reason why I didn't want any of those fuckin timers with no true time on it. It's hard to set the right time on those timers. Next time I might just buy a digital one.
horror business
06-26-2007, 09:57 PM
No offense or anything, but wouldn't an incandescent do nothing? Wouldn't a CFL do much better, for the purpose of trying to increase the smaller buds?
horror business
06-26-2007, 09:58 PM
Oh by the way, regarding your timer. Is it one of those ones with the pins that you have the press? If so, the same thing happened with mine. It pissed me off, but I had to destroy my plants, so I never resolved the problem, but I was having the same problem as you. I want a digital timer where I can set the current time, and then set the times I want it to go on and off. It also needs to be grounded though, and wal-mart didn't have any grounded digital timers.
orangeman
06-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Well of course a CFL would be better lol but I don't have any so hey it's better than nothing. And honestly if you go back to the first few pages rather you realize it or not my plants were growing under 300 watts of incandescents so trust me, they do work. Their only flaw is the heat, other than that it's just as normal as any other light. I mean FFS it is light lol.
WeedyBoyWonder
06-27-2007, 12:14 AM
Cool grow Orangeman, we have pretty much the same thing 1 week into flower. Also had a bug problem, but lucky we didn't over use the killer. Similar temperature problem aswell, its at about 95d F but we can't put holes in the walls for fans and such.
Enjoy the smoke you get. Homegrown produce.
invision
06-27-2007, 02:09 AM
Well of course a CFL would be better lol but I don't have any so hey it's better than nothing. And honestly if you go back to the first few pages rather you realize it or not my plants were growing under 300 watts of incandescents so trust me, they do work. Their only flaw is the heat, other than that it's just as normal as any other light. I mean FFS it is light lol.
but is the added heat really needed this time a year from a bulb that doesnt do shit but make things hot?
cmon man you should know better than that and that 250watt light can and will produce over a 1/4 pound of herb so dont lose hope and get mad over mistakes made from being new at it, my 1st plant wasnt all that great but hey it was mine and i grew it out to what it was.
if you dont already have one get a glass cool tube for you if keeping the light close to the plants is a problem, its a 70.00 investment that wull save you from killing your neibors from being frustrated.
mdhydro.com
orangeman
06-27-2007, 01:54 PM
but is the added heat really needed this time a year from a bulb that doesnt do shit but make things hot?
cmon man you should know better than that and that 250watt light can and will produce over a 1/4 pound of herb so dont lose hope and get mad over mistakes made from being new at it, my 1st plant wasnt all that great but hey it was mine and i grew it out to what it was.
if you dont already have one get a glass cool tube for you if keeping the light close to the plants is a problem, its a 70.00 investment that wull save you from killing your neibors from being frustrated.
mdhydro.com
Well the more I study my grow, (and yet I'm still reading as I go on for more and more knowledge) the more I am experience and realize different things I never thought that mattered. And rather you realize it or not I have an open space so I am losing a lot of light that could have been directed towards my plants with that 250 watt. The only way I could efficiently use that as in utilizing all the light I have would be to build a cabinet. I don't have an air cooled hood or anything to exhaust the heat from the light so I have to keep them at 15'' which is limiting it's penetration. Trust me I'm the one monitoring my grow and I see the suffering that bottom growth is going through due to lack of light. When I added the new bulb those bottom bud sites just lit up, now that I rotate my plants everyday the bottom growth is developing faster. And no heat is not an issue because I have a fan in there, and I learned how to control the dehumidifier. Now the temp doesn't even rise above 83 degrees. I'm not trying to sound arrogant but me being new has nothing to do with this. Everything I've studied hard for has just lights up like a bulb in my head when I actually encountered it, it's just how I thought it would be and I think I know what I'm doing.
Unless you've actually tried an incandescent then I can understand how you would think, because of what everyone else says, that they are rendered useless..not true. In fact I'll start to show the bottom growth to show how it's picking up. And the only way for ME to yield 1/4 lb of herb with a 250 watt would be for me to get an even canopy and or ScroG WHICH I didn't do and do not have have, it's like a tree with lower bud sites, trust me I know how to work my grow and you'll see in the end that everything that I'm doing is going to pay off. I know exactly what I could and can do but this thing is probably only going to go on for a maximum of 3 more weeks so I'm working with what I have. Next time will be better because I know a few things that I'm going to upgrade and change. I got this. :thumbsup:
horror business
06-28-2007, 04:19 AM
Orangeman, I'm sure it's doing something (the incandescent bulb) but probably something minor. Yes, now your plants have light, where they didn't before, but that light is not of the right spectrum or anything to do anything sufficient. You can go to wal-mart, and get a low-wattage CFL, for under 5 dollars. You can get a 150-watt equivalent warm CFL at wal-mart for 8 dollars. You COULD flower a plant under that, so by adding it to the lower bud sites, they would increase a lot more, than that basically useless light.
So, do your plants a favor, and get a CFL instead of that incandescent. You'll be happier in the long run.
Oh, and by the way, last year, when I first started, I used an incandecent on my first attempt. It without saying failed. My second attempt, when I used a CFL, it grew like it should.
Yes, a plant will grow under it, but very poorly, and it will not flourish.
orangeman
06-28-2007, 02:14 PM
Well it's not like I was depending soley on that incandescent to grow my plant I mean I still do have a 250 watt. I'm just saying I don't have a CFL and I'm not going out to buy one so I was just using that. It's not like I'm doing anything wrong I mean they are still growing...but anyways I'm going out of town on Monday or Tuesday...dunno which one so I'm gonna water them one last time next week Sunday or Monday and then that will be the last time. I don't expect them to go for any more than 2 more weeks so I'm gonna start giving them straight water from now on after the next watering. Btw people seemed disappointed when I added the incandescent so instead I removed it and put reflective material on the underside of the floor so that light reflects back up. Anyways..unless it was just growing like it should have I did see some improvement but any who pray for my plants. I don't want to feed them and then come back and they're burned lol but I don't think they should be, they seem to like the nutes.
orangeman
06-29-2007, 01:34 AM
Btw, is it cool if the lights are warm on the tops? Not hot or uncomfortable...just warm. Because I can't go down there to turn on the fan right now. Some people are staying the night down there.
orangeman
06-30-2007, 07:06 PM
One question, they say to stop feeding at least 2 weeks before harvest. Well Tuesday makes the 8th week so I've decided to stop feeding the plants already. Since I'm not feeding it anymore it wont slow the bud growth down will it? I don't think I've completely run out all of the nutrients out of the soil yet but I'm not feeding it anymore. I'll probably have pictures up next week.
orangeman
07-03-2007, 02:12 AM
I took a sample off today. Tomorrow makes week 8. Cuttin next week probably. It hurt when I snipped it off, I didn't even snip off the whole bud, just most of it. I missed some lol. Not to mention the circuit breaker switched off because of too much power for a few mins, but after like 2 mins I switched it back on and the lights came back on. I hope it didn't stress em out too bad :-/. Most trichomes were milky and clear but I saw a trichome or two that seemed a bit black. Maybe it was amber but it was small so it looked like there was black in it.
horror business
07-03-2007, 07:47 AM
Well, don't be disappointed or get discouraged if you don't get that high off of the bud you sampled as it looks quite immature, judging by the stigmas. It will have no reflection on the finished product, so if it isn't that great, don't worry it will be, but if it is great already, then you'll be in for a treat once it's finally done. It's looking great as it is.
Peace :rasta:
orangeman
07-03-2007, 04:37 PM
I think it'll be good.
go toke up
07-04-2007, 05:22 PM
letem grow longer
KL4D4
07-04-2007, 06:46 PM
Ya def looks like its got a while to go.
horror business
07-05-2007, 10:30 AM
Let's see some updated pics. How was the smoke from what you sampled?
Markass
07-05-2007, 01:40 PM
Let's see some updated pics. How was the smoke from what you sampled?
indeed
orangeman
07-08-2007, 03:56 AM
Well a smoke report from the sample bud..
One word....speechless..and that's the word. Nothing else can explain this weed. I guess one reason I never really went towards the indica strains is because well honestly I don't think I've ever in my life had a potency of weed like this. So I was basically forgetting that just because it's indica doesn't mean it can't be trippy. I'm saying that because right now,...man. I'm tripping the hell out. I'm not even sure if I'm gonna make it out of this lol. I smoked a gravity bong hit of it. No more g-bongs for me of this weed never lol. I'm just so happy right now because that was just a sample.
That is at least a week old. I cut it on Monday and i've been drying it and kept it in a air-tight pill bottle for the last 2 days. It was small so it didn't need long to dry, it almost dried over night. Like it's been drying all the way up to Thursday but I just recently a while ago just kept it in the pill bottle and not opening. When I opened it, it actually went from smelling some what fresh and fruity, (it really did smell like some type of mango or somethin no lies) to smelling more like weed..and still a little fruit smell. I smoked the bong and it totally took me by surprise. I couldn't even hold it in, I mean I tried but it just came rumbling out of my mouth and I felt high the minute I exhaled. Now I'm in my own fuckin zone this is crazy lol. I'm also excited to try the other plant, it looks like it's gonna be a treat too.
Honestly now I don't even care about the yield, it's my first grow and I got some god damn bloody good ganja. Even if something crazy happened and they died right now I'd even be happy with what I have. The heads on that other plant (the one I didn't sample) has really grown from the last time I seen them. I'm actually pissed so bad at my self for not getting cloning material and taking clones just in case because that other plant that I didn't sample yet omg, it's developing so nice. I really want to fill in my room with that plant. I could easily fit 4 of those plants in there. Really doesn't take as much space up as the other plant and looks better. The other plant is actually taking a really slow time to fill in though, maybe it won't fill in all the way like the other plant but it'll be some nice smoke, a lot of skimpy buds for it to be cut next week though. Maybe I'll cut the other plant down completely next week and cut just the heads and more mature growth off and let the skimpy ones on it grow some more.
edit: also I'm sorry I forgot to take pics of the dried bud, bud I left out of town and thats why I didn't smoke it, I kept it with me to monitor it though. The only thing I had was a small blunt like on Thursday and this is Saturday, I just got back so immedietly when I got in I broke it all down and put some other bud in it to fill in the bowl more and I smoked it, I forgot to take pics and thought about it right when I broke it down. But I basically cut some of the leaves off, basically all the small bits that didn't have visible trichomes on them. so it basically looked like a small nug. All the hairs turned orange and the calyxes and leaves looked like they had little bits of natural sugar placed on them lol. It didn't even look like crystals, just frosting. It was a nice piece of plant.
systemofadown
07-08-2007, 07:13 AM
glad to hear you enjoyed it. i bet it will be so much better when it's done though. I'm so proud that you made it this far. It brings a tear to my eye to know that I could be sampling my buds if I didn't have to destroy my plants. Oh well, at least I have lowryder and northern lights seeds on their way.
So, was there any couchlock at all or was it all sativa? I love sativas.
horror business
07-08-2007, 09:07 AM
The above post was by me, my friend was at my house and was logged in and I forgot he was still logged in when I replied. I just noticed it now though.
Can you post some pictures of your plants?
orangeman
07-08-2007, 10:29 AM
Sure, I took some pics. Didn't even know it was requested lol. But I didn't get to flush like I wanted last week so I got in at like 10 tonight and I tried flushing. I gave one plant at least 5 gallons of water. Plus I ran it through the sink but the water was still light yellow. I eventually said fuck it and I'm just gonna deal with it. If the sample wasn't that bad and it hadn't even been really flushed that great yet then that little water job should do them some good. I probably am going to cut them down next Sunday. I dunno I might let them go for 2 more weeks. I didn't give the second plant as good of a flush that the other one got but I feel it's better than no effort at all. Besides I don't guess it'd kill me smoking bud with just a little bit of nutrients still in it lol. Not desired but there's really nothing more I can do about it. I also just tied one plant to support it. That whole plant was leaning to the side. That would be the plant that I posted next to a BIC. I guess those heads are heavy lol.
Also the plant with the BIC by it doesn't seem to be making a lot of trichomes like the other one. Should I let it stay alive until it gets frosty like the other? I mean half of the hairs are turning red and the trichome growth on it just seems to be lacking to me thats all.
orangeman
07-08-2007, 10:30 AM
:hippy:
Oh and btw no it really wasn't any type of couch lock high.
horror business
07-08-2007, 01:01 PM
...simply amazing, lol. Seriously, I'm really happy for you that you made it all the way through, even with all the trials and tribulations you faced in the beginning.
Those buds sure look amazing. I love sativas. Keep us updated.
orangeman
07-08-2007, 01:57 PM
Also I might cut one plant down sooner than I thought. I tried to constantly support it but I just don't seem to have the right things. The buds are getting too heavy I guess. I didn't really think the buds would get as big as they are considering the plant had sorta skinny branches but I was surprised lol. I know I might end up cutting it at the end of this week probably I dunno. I really want to wait and see if more trichomes will come out or something but it's so weighed down. I helped it a little bit, now the branches are hanging in every direction. At first all the buds were leaning to the left, almost ready to break the stalk lol. And thanks Horror, I'm just glad it's almost harvest time lol.
Growing is a fun thing and it's right, it's almost more addicting than actually smokin' it xD. But I really wish I had a real room instead of a small closet. I need more space seriously and a more intense light. I don't know when in the future but when ever I can get a bed room or somethin to grow in I'll probably get a 600 watt. I don't know if I'll make logs in the future but I'm sure as hell looking forward to continue growing. I wish that I wont ever have to buy from dealers again, I hate just thinking about it. It just feels so much better to know where your weed is exactly coming from and you grow it to your likings according to what you want. It's a good hobby :).
horror business
07-09-2007, 04:41 AM
The bud structures are that of a sativa. It does not appear indica to me at all. Earlier in veg, your leaves had "indica-type" leaves, which made me, and others believe it was an indica. Well, throughout my extensive research on cannabis phenotypes and geographical locations, I'm thinking that's a mexican sativa. In early veg, they typically have dark green broad leaves. But, as they grow up their leaves get long and skinny, yet still a dark green. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's definitely heavy sativa dominant, by looking at the buds, and the leaves.
Peace, and enjoy smoking that amazing herb of yours.
orangeman
07-09-2007, 06:33 PM
The bud structures are that of a sativa. It does not appear indica to me at all. Earlier in veg, your leaves had "indica-type" leaves, which made me, and others believe it was an indica. Well, throughout my extensive research on cannabis phenotypes and geographical locations, I'm thinking that's a mexican sativa. In early veg, they typically have dark green broad leaves. But, as they grow up their leaves get long and skinny, yet still a dark green. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure it's definitely heavy sativa dominant, by looking at the buds, and the leaves.
Peace, and enjoy smoking that amazing herb of yours.
Yeah that's what I was thinking too, that's why I was so happy haha. I'm probably gonna let it go into the 10th week...I'm gonna let them both go until I start to see just a small bit of amber trichomes because I want to make sure they are ready and mature when cut. Don't want to do it too soon. But exciting thing is the time is close, very lol. I can't wait :D.
BuddyX
07-10-2007, 04:25 AM
orange man, if icould make a suggestion, why not save 1 plant? so you can get monster buds, i mean let it grow for like 50 wks, and ur budswill be huge... just saying man, that would be bad ass
FreeVenice
07-10-2007, 06:18 AM
^What! don't do that???
did you cut a clone like I stated a while ago? If not look at the pop corn buds at the bottom of the plant, cut one and re-veg. The plants look great, how is the resin chillin? I don't know if you planned on continuing with a guaranteed female or if you wanted to start from seed again. Did you even plan on continuing??? lol :stoned:
oh and I would go for 11 weeks, those hairs look long. . .
Dizzy1
07-10-2007, 07:14 AM
, i mean let it grow for like 50 wks, and ur budswill be huge... just saying man, that would be bad ass
Um, the plant would be dead.
Read about the life cycle of a MJ plant, home slice... hate to see more negative rep go your way.
You can veg your way into oblivion, you can only Flower as long as the plant says you can flower. So to speak.
orangeman
07-10-2007, 04:56 PM
orange man, if icould make a suggestion, why not save 1 plant? so you can get monster buds, i mean let it grow for like 50 wks, and ur budswill be huge... just saying man, that would be bad ass
Then all the trichomes would probably be past mature. I don't want a lot of amber trichs and degraded bud. I'm after quality not quantity. And as for as harvesting I don't think I'm going to let it go any longer than next week. Most of the trichomes on the indica is milky. Almost 90% milky (my type of weed! :stoned:). As far as the other plant goes I might let it go longer because the trichomes haven't even began to frost those buds yet. I'm confused because I'm not even sure if it's suppose to. And on the indica the hairs aren't even half way red yet nor have the buds packed together, looks a little odd to me but the trichomes look so mature and at the same time I don't want any ambers to form so I'm confused, I really don't know when I want to chop.....on the Sativa dom there are more crystals on the guard leaves than the buds so I'm probably gonna let that one go longer.
Also does it matter if I use big wide pots? I'm probably going to try and get pots the size of my current ones, just wider. Reason why I ask is because I read some where long ago that it'd be better to use taller pots rather than wider pots so the roots have more space to grow downwards but if I had anything taller things would get out of hand, I don't have a lot of space. But I want more root mass because I really want to see if more roots could contribute to the yield. When I get a full bed room I think I might use like 10gal pots. I never liked the idea of having multiple plants to achieve a big yield, I wanna pull as much bud off of one plant as possible. And I don't think I'll be growing with any more bag seeds, bag seeds are fine if you don't have anything else. I'm grateful to have some bud rather than none at all so thank God for the seeds period lol... but I am a really time-wise person and I totally did not expect these plants to be growing for this long. One of them is fine because they are coming down real soon but as far as the other plant it's taking way longer than expected and they are two totally different plants with different needs. Basically I don't like dealing with something I have no clue about. I need a garden with everything almost identical and the same. But any who I took a sample from the Sativa dom plant last night. Hopefully it's very potent and proves me wrong because it really doesn't look that potent but I had to find out how it smokes. Also I have a stick to tie the heads down now because those things really are beginning to get too heavy for the branches to support them.
orangeman
07-10-2007, 05:08 PM
Oh btw Venice I don't think I'll be re-vegging these plants. And yes I do plan on continuing, I never plan on stopping my hobby of growing Cannabis until I either die or forced to stop i.e. thrown in prison. I refuse to pay for something that's free, every bud that we've ever smoked was grown by some one, somewhere or there would be no weed to smoke. Not like it's going to magically appear... So why can't I be the one that grows my own? But anywho my next grow is going to start in November of this year. This time I will know the genetics of my plants and I already know they're all females. I can't wait :).
KL4D4
07-10-2007, 07:30 PM
Nothing wrong with just cutting of the buds that are ready as its going to take a while to cure might as well let the smaller ones finish up.
orangeman
07-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Nothing wrong with just cutting of the buds that are ready as its going to take a while to cure might as well let the smaller ones finish up.
Well the buds on the bottom might be skimpy but as far as the trichomes go they are almost just as mature as the ones on the top. I really am not trying to let them live too much longer I was gonna let them go amber but I changed my mind. I plan on doing it Friday or next Mondday..or the minute I see one I'm chopping. Which ever comes first.
horror business
07-11-2007, 12:37 AM
Orangeman, on the subject of the buds that you said have just as many mature trichomes on them, but the pistils are mostly white, and the buds aren't together...
Well, anyway, as the bud grows, it will grow many many more trichomes, that have the chance to start over. So, even if your initial trichomes are amber, but the buds aren't finished, that really doesn't matter, because like I said, as the buds fill out, it will just frost with trichomes.
Peace,
horror business
BTW, in november, for your next grow, you said this: "This time I will know the genetics of my plants and I already know they're all females."
That confused me, as I don't know how. Are you planning on cloning your plants now, and vegging them until November? Or are you purchasing female seeds? Or did you get a hermi flower that pollinated some buds?
Either way, I'll be looking forward to checking it out in November. Hopefully by that time, I'll have a completed grow diary as well.
horror business
07-11-2007, 03:19 AM
But then again, if I'm correct, you want the purist sativa high possible, so you want to be harvesting fairly soon. I would suggest taking another sample bud, one that is completely mature, and test the potency, then decide if it's time to chop or not.
orangeman
07-11-2007, 03:56 AM
I don't want to cut the mature buds down yet because well if they are already doing excellent then I don't want to stop that lol. Even the little bit of trichomes it may thrown on in these last few days will help. As far as the bud maturity/yield goes I'm with you. I know I should let them fill out and mature but I love a certain high so the minute I see amber trichs, trust me I won't want to if they aren't finish but I'm gonna have to cut just to be safe. I just went down there and man I love looking at that plant. It's so freggin frosty. I had to post a pic of my favorite bud. I'm gonna save that one for last. Probably will be the last bud I ever smoke of my harvest.
Gonna let it cure but never touch it. God it looks so much more better in person lol. And it's obvious that one of those plants is going to have to live longer because even if the buds are mature those trichomes are barely visible and mostly all clear. I'm happy though because at least it finished filling in before the crystals started popping out so I'll be happy with both yield and high with it. As far as my next grow goes....well you'll see, just be sure not to forget about me lol. I swear I tried to flush them so much and I can't seem to get them to run off just clear water. It's always a little yellow so fuck it. I'm not even gonna try to flush anymore because I'm so fuckin frustrated. Last time like I said I spent from 12 am all the way up to 5 am trying to flush those things and STILL up to the last minute I never got just clear run off so what ever. If they taste a little like chemicals fuck it. Also next time I think I'm gonna get some Super Thrive to help the roots grow faster..every little bit helps :p. I don't think too many trichs will turn amber soon so if all goes well they both will go into the next week (10). I won't cut if I don't have to. I was aiming for a specific time but now that I'm here I rather get the best out of what I have rather than trying to harvest on a specific set date because I'm waaaay behind schedule lol.
FreeVenice
07-11-2007, 05:21 AM
A lot of the major growth happens in the last few weeks. I don't know exactly how much longer, but we need to hear from one of our Vets. I have heard around that you are looking for a descent amount of pistil browning. . .but again that is border line mature
orangeman
07-11-2007, 01:25 PM
Yeah I'm watching both hairs and trichomes but which ever starts to mature first will determine what I do like I said. I don't want to cut too soon but I'm after a certain thing, but if the calyxes are half way reddish before that time happens then hey good for them then the flowers 'il be mature when they receive the chop lol.
TheGreenFog
07-11-2007, 04:02 PM
Hey, O-man. Lookin' good. I bet you're READY to cut them girls down now, eh? Oh, if you didn't notice, there was a thread started in the lounge about you and why you don't go visit up there anymore. lol Thought I'd let ya know. :cool:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
orangeman
07-11-2007, 07:15 PM
Hey, O-man. Lookin' good. I bet you're READY to cut them girls down now, eh? Oh, if you didn't notice, there was a thread started in the lounge about you and why you don't go visit up there anymore. lol Thought I'd let ya know. :cool:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Oh, I didn't know that lol. I dunno I do go in the lounge but just occasionally. Also you're right. I am ready to cut. It's like fuckin' crack cocaine xD. I'm sittin here just so anxious and cringing and like C'MON! I want to cut, then I don't then I do. I almost took the scissors and did it last night. These last few days are going by so slow. Words of advice for regular smokers, don't flower your plants without a constant supply of bud already available to smoke or you might go crazy.
KL4D4
07-11-2007, 08:33 PM
True that. You just need to find a Vaporizer and then do some judging!
orangeman
07-11-2007, 08:41 PM
True that. You just need to find a Vaporizer and then do some judging!
Can I use a glass tube as a form of vaporizor? Like I have a test tube. If I put weed at the bottom and put a lighter to it can I inhale that?
orangeman
07-12-2007, 01:48 AM
Quick question. When I harvest my plants would it be consider quick drying if I intentionally let them sit in the room with the dehumidifier making the room about 20-35%. Basically making the room very dry because I just let that sample bud sit in the room for just this day and it made the bud dry to the touch and the stems snap easily. I was happy with the quick results. Is there any negative effects not allowing them to dry naturally or what? Thing is this bud dried and the humidity was only about 50-55% so what should I do?
hydrocannabis
07-12-2007, 03:53 AM
hey og that is 1 nice lookin bud you have there. really it is.
Rock.Steady
07-12-2007, 04:56 AM
nice plant dude!:thumbsup:
good luck on a happy harvest:D
Rock.
Alwayz_Stoned
07-12-2007, 08:03 AM
nice job! i wanna pix when u harvest!
orangeman
07-12-2007, 02:08 PM
Well harvest is going to be Monday for ONE plant. The other one throws on new trichomes every day so I'm gonna let it go 2-3 more weeks. As far as the one I'm harvesting Monday I'll try to get some shots of the plant outside of the room without the freggin HPS making everything seem brighter lol. But um I took it outside the grow room yesterday so I could sit down in a chair and calmly look through the microscope and look at the trichomes. Spent about an hour down there looking at all visible buds. Most of those trichomes are milky. I remember reading some where that some people had a hard time telling the difference between clear and milky trichomes well..if it's hard to tell then more than likely it's not milky yet lol cuz now I know why they use milky for the description. Those heads were filled in with just all white.
Looked so pretty. The only way I can describe the smell of the plant is the mornings at McDonalds. Seriously..It reminds me just of what McDonalds restaurants smell like when they're cookin' breakfast..weird eh? :p Barely any clear trichomes and when I took the plant out of the room I actually could see the real color of the hairs. Half of the hairs are red and the ones that appear white are really like light red/brown. So it's really ready now but I'm gonna let it go until Monday just watered it yesterday, not giving anymore in its life and then chop it on that night :). As far as the other plant goes it'll be lonely but at least it'll have that light all to it self haha. Btw I have a question, should I give it some nutes one more time or what? The one I'm letting live because it's not even no where near filling in trichomes, all of those crystals are still clear but the buds look like they're about done forming. What should I do?
orangeman
07-12-2007, 02:38 PM
Oh btw happy 10,000th post to me lol!:bong::smokebong:
Dizzy1
07-12-2007, 03:42 PM
Happy 10 thousandths OM!
You posting freak you. :p
orangeman
07-12-2007, 04:07 PM
Happy 10 thousandths OM!
You posting freak you. :p
roflcopter! :thumbsup:
orangeman
07-12-2007, 06:10 PM
Oh I forgot to tell how that sample bud was from the Sativa. Well it has a long way to go. I tried it and it only gave me a weak buzz and a mellow feeling. But it wasn't super fuckin potent so I'm sure it isn't ready.
Sir Bliss
07-12-2007, 11:03 PM
Oh btw happy 10,000th post to me lol!:bong::smokebong:
Congrats man! And the log is looking great.
look at the big bong hit smilie up there^ ever notice he's not hitting it right wtf...haha just noticed that. What the fuck is he lighting?
orangeman
07-13-2007, 02:03 AM
Lol thx. Btw I made a light bulb vaporizer and I cut another sample and I grinded it and omfg that bud looked so fluffy and it didn't look like I was gonna get much, it's amazing how much broke down when I grinded. And shit I'm fuuuuucked. Monday is gonna be a gooood day. And the other plant has new trichomes every time I go down there lol so happy. That ones def. gonna be ready in another 3 weeks. Life is good right now :).
Alwayz_Stoned
07-13-2007, 02:35 AM
Glad to hear you got a good smoke! post harvest pix monday. :stoned:
TheGreenFog
07-13-2007, 02:36 AM
I meant to wish you a happy 10k posts as well! Congrats!
:clap: :clap:
Sounds like you're gonna have some bomb weed, man! :thumbsup:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
orangeman
07-13-2007, 05:31 AM
Congrats man! And the log is looking great.
look at the big bong hit smilie up there^ ever notice he's not hitting it right wtf...haha just noticed that. What the fuck is he lighting?
Yeah I noticed that too lol.
orangeman
07-14-2007, 02:07 AM
Well I said long before I harvest I'll post pics up with the plants out of the room so I finally got around to it. Actually I think I might let it go a little bit longer than Monday. I dunno most of the trichomes are just how I want but I want to wait for the flowers to mature more also like..more red hairs or w/e.
orangeman
07-14-2007, 02:08 AM
And one last pic..
yes I know the foliage is still very green but trust me, I've tried to flush already. I gave it like 6 gallons of water and it's only a 3 gallon pot, plus I just watered it yesterday. No food has been given to them since the 24th of June.
horror business
07-16-2007, 11:00 AM
Is today the day for one of the plants to get harvested?
hydrocannabis
07-16-2007, 02:37 PM
dammmmmmmmm they look great. OrangeMan:jointsmile:
orangeman
07-16-2007, 02:48 PM
Nope lol. Every time I think it's ready I extend the date. I think I'm just gonna wait and then just post when it's really ready instead of making an estimate. Even though I want my heady high honestly at the same time I want to get the biggest yield I can get from it. If I had more than a 250 watt I'm sure they'd probably would have been ready but..I have to deal with what I have. Maybe if the prolonged growth gives me effects such as numbness, stupidness and inability to move (lol) it'll be good after all.
horror business
07-16-2007, 02:56 PM
lol, I'm excited for you. I can't wait to see those harvest pics.
As a request, could you remove all of the leaves first, and then take pictures of the plants in their pots with just their buds? I enjoy seeing plants at that "stage", such as in the Greenhouse Seed Company videos when they start harvesting.
orangeman
07-16-2007, 03:27 PM
lol, I'm excited for you. I can't wait to see those harvest pics.
As a request, could you remove all of the leaves first, and then take pictures of the plants in their pots with just their buds? I enjoy seeing plants at that "stage", such as in the Greenhouse Seed Company videos when they start harvesting.
Lol the harvesting point is funny. It just gets all silent and all you hear is the plucking of the leaves haha. And yeah I'll do that for ya :).
the image reaper
07-16-2007, 03:40 PM
Orangeman, TRUST your trichomes ... ignore the browning of the stigmas, means nothing at this point ... :smokin:
orangeman
07-16-2007, 03:41 PM
Orangeman, TRUST your trichomes ... ignore the browning of the stigmas, means nothing at this point ... :smokin:
Alright Image Reaper. Also I'm waiting for the buds because I want to let them get bigger, try to increase my yield.
TheGreenFog
07-16-2007, 03:54 PM
Chop 'em yet? ;)
:chainsaw:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
orangeman
07-16-2007, 03:56 PM
Chop 'em yet? ;)
:chainsaw:
The Fog :rastasmoke:
Nah not yet, I think I might just do it next week lol. God it sucks ass to wait but I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. One reason why I wanted to wait is because last night I noticed new trichomes growing in so I think maybe I week longer will bring even more trichomes in.
horror business
07-16-2007, 04:04 PM
Lol the harvesting point is funny. It just gets all silent and all you hear is the plucking of the leaves haha. And yeah I'll do that for ya :).
lol, I love those videos. They are a huge inspiration for me. I would love to do that for a living as they do. I plan on taking college courses for botany, so I can live in a place where marijuana is legal and make a living by working with plants. It's awesome how serious they are about it in the videos. I hope they come out with more of those.
orangeman
07-16-2007, 04:46 PM
lol, I love those videos. They are a huge inspiration for me. I would love to do that for a living as they do. I plan on taking college courses for botany, so I can live in a place where marijuana is legal and make a living by working with plants. It's awesome how serious they are about it in the videos. I hope they come out with more of those.
Yeah, I'm serious like that too lol. It's like I was watching the video with no smile on my face just taking notes lol. I'm trying to move there when I get older too because I want to grow marijuana as a profession and I want to make my living with a coffee shop or something. People grow corn, tomatoes and they enjoy what they do. How come I can't enjoy my plant too? Fuck them I don't even listen to all that non-sense. Cannabis is just as normal as any other plant and I take it as serious farmers take their cash crops. I hope one day my dreams come true and I can move to the promised land :).
horror business
07-16-2007, 05:20 PM
Yeah exactly. Take Bush's Baked Beans for example, you see the commercials, where the guy says the recipe's been in his family for so long, etc...
Or a better example would be a vineyard, with each generation of family working at the vineyard, etc... I envision living my life dedicated to growing cannabis, in a place where I won't be prosecuted, where I can teach my kids about the amazing plant and have them "carry on the tradition" hopefully.
orangeman
07-16-2007, 05:24 PM
Yeah exactly. Take Bush's Baked Beans for example, you see the commercials, where the guy says the recipe's been in his family for so long, etc...
Or a better example would be a vineyard, with each generation of family working at the vineyard, etc... I envision living my life dedicated to growing cannabis, in a place where I won't be prosecuted, where I can teach my kids about the amazing plant and have them "carry on the tradition" hopefully.
Yeah man those are some perfect examples. Long life the Chronic! :stoned: but to carry on the traditional you'll have to grow some crazy ass strain and keep the genetics a secret lol.
Shovelhandle
07-16-2007, 05:25 PM
I sure wouldn't mind it if 'the man" quit quibbling over a little mj cultivation and enjoyment.
Good luck with your harvest, O'man
Sho
horror business
07-16-2007, 05:37 PM
I plan on developing my own strain much like our cannabis forefathers did, by traveling around the world to different locations and find it growing in it's natural environment, preferably pure landraces if they still exist by the time I get there, and find the best specimens and bring back seeds to experiment with, make desired traits stable, and then cross.
go toke up
07-16-2007, 06:07 PM
i hope my plants get this far.
orangeman
07-16-2007, 06:55 PM
i hope my plants get this far.
With enough patience to learn about cultivation and what your plant needs and doesn't need you should achieve results like mine or better! It's really not all that hard until you run into deficiencies and problems you can't identify lol.
orangeman
07-17-2007, 01:42 AM
The one that's time is near is starting to yellow in the leaves. At last the flush has paid off lol. I guess the other one is only going for mmmm 3 more weeks so hopefully I haven't messed up by not feeding it anything since the 24th of June lol...since it is going to be going longer than the other one..I'm also thinking about cutting the mature buds off the one that's almost ready and leaving the smaller buds on to grow bigger. I mean it has a lot of skimpy buds, dunno if I want to let them still sit on the plant because I don't know if it's even going to be worth it but we'll see... Haven't posted pics of the other plant up in a while so I decided to snap some.
Markass
07-17-2007, 01:57 AM
nice dude, glad to see them bulking up :stoned:
Alwayz_Stoned
07-17-2007, 02:45 AM
Looking good!
Raskolnikov
07-17-2007, 02:53 AM
Tres bien! A successful first grow, I'd say!
BUZz UK
07-17-2007, 10:42 AM
How are the trichs looking man?
orangeman
07-17-2007, 01:42 PM
Better than ever that's why I'm soooo glad I decided not to cut it. Those things are building up a lot in this last week. I think the final smoke is gonna be one hell of a treat lol.
horror business
07-17-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm glad you're letting it go longer, I'm sure you'll be more than pleased with the finished product, haha. How much (a visual estimate) do you think you'll end up with in weight?
orangeman
07-17-2007, 04:31 PM
I'm glad you're letting it go longer, I'm sure you'll be more than pleased with the finished product, haha. How much (a visual estimate) do you think you'll end up with in weight?
Due to my light not being as close as it could have been because of heat I dunno, probably only 1 oz or probably even less I really can't say. It suck when it comes to eying things because I haven't seen all the buds in just a big pile yet, altogether I know I'll get a little bit over 2 oz though at least I hope. I'll be more than happy if I do :).
Rock.Steady
07-17-2007, 08:22 PM
Nice Job O-man:thumbsup:
cant wait for the smoke report for sure:jointsmile:
Rock.
olliegrow
07-18-2007, 03:37 AM
hey bro what week are your ladies on? 10 or 11? hows the temp in your grow area? im cutting this weekend and i added some pics to my post. I did like you said and waited and they still put on weight even though it was 84 F for the entire 12/12. peace and excellent job!!
orangeman
07-18-2007, 01:27 PM
Lol yeah, both of them are in week 10. Tuesday made week 10. 114 days of total growth and 71 days of flowering. I think even if it was a 8 week flowering strain there were a few things that made it lag behind and I'm very very happy now that I allowed them to go longer than I intentionally expected. I don't know if it's because the plant is dying or not but now it is putting out new trichomes (or so it seems lol) every day and it just looks better and better..well the buds that is, the actual plant is dying lol. Funny to say a dying thing looks beautiful haha. I mean I wasn't going to chop them down when I said I would if they were immature at the point and..well they were. I can only blame the environment, not a lot of ventilation and there is a heat build-up in there. Also the lights aren't as close as they could be because of that heat problem. Sometimes temp reach as high as 90 degrees. Also I never really gave them a good flush like they deserved (long before near the end of their lives). Next time if I can I'm going to do like I saw on a GHS video and try to flush 10 days if I can once they are in flowering. Also I'm going to buy a bag of perlite next time for sure to increase the aeration and drainage because in one plant it's ok, but in the other plant's pot it's extremely poor. But I'm not gonna give an estimate on this post lol. When it's ready I'll post it the day before the chop happens :).
BuddyX
07-21-2007, 02:21 AM
lookin good
orangeman
07-21-2007, 02:49 AM
Wow some one mentions the strain I'm gonna grow next year and then my log suddenly gets brought back up when the time has come lol. Stop reading my mind! I dunno what the fuck I just said, anyways tonight is the night. I'm gonna chop now. I was highly recommended to cut down on the 22nd. Only like 2 days from now so I'm gonna do it now. It looks more than ready and it looks lovely. Not your average lovable plant but hey, it was a bag seed can't expect it to be a top dollar looking strain right lol? It's better than nothing right? RIGHT!? :). Sorry I couldn't get anything but one good shot. I suck at macro pics. I'm gonna buy a loupe for my next grow..Pretty high right now from a vapo sample and loving it. I love this plant. I'm gonna pick it off while it's still in the pot like Horror Business wanted and take pics when it's done being picked. But for now here is what I took before the time. The other plant is still growing and loving it. Packing on crystals every week. Can't wait for it to finish :).
horror business
07-21-2007, 09:10 AM
lol, nice. You'll be in a good mood for a while.
orangeman
07-21-2007, 09:41 AM
Fuck my fingers are aching from that harvest. Almost 6 hours later and I'm done, FINALLY!
horror business
07-21-2007, 10:51 AM
That's amazing. That's a lot of bud. Grade-A bud too. Congratulations! And thanks for taking that picture, I always love seeing plants like that. How's your indica plant coming along?
orangeman
07-21-2007, 02:29 PM
That's amazing. That's a lot of bud. Grade-A bud too. Congratulations! And thanks for taking that picture, I always love seeing plants like that. How's your indica plant coming along?
That's the one you're looking at lol. And sorry I couldn't get a shot of the plant totally stripped. That shot was taken after about 3 main branches were taken off. I was trying to get used to the trimming process lol. But my Sativa is cool. Gonna be in there for a while but I'll be enjoying this one when it's ready in between time :stoned:
evertking
07-21-2007, 03:30 PM
Looks good!
Shovelhandle
07-21-2007, 03:59 PM
great job, man
go toke up
07-21-2007, 04:07 PM
awesome.i give u mad props for makin somethin so sweet
orangeman
07-21-2007, 04:13 PM
Lol thanks all, makes all that hard work seem worth it with the nice comments. I was so angry it took so long. Cutting down just ONE branch for what seems like it took about 30 minutes only to hang it up, look back and realize you're only half way done *cry*.. For now on I'm going to try and strictly stick to ratios of high calyx:leaf strains because it's a fuckin pain trying to remove all those leaves I swear. My hands were so cramped. I sure could have used some pain killers for that one lol.
hydrocannabis
07-21-2007, 08:56 PM
is that U in that pic. probly not.
any that looks like some killer buds U have there.
orangeman
07-21-2007, 10:53 PM
Yes that's me lol. Thats why you can barely see my face, no one else knows about my grow. Who else would it be lol? I can't wait until this stuff is dry and ready to smoke so I can finally eat again lol. My appetite sucks so bad.
the image reaper
07-21-2007, 11:03 PM
hey, you got some NICE buds there, Orangeman ! ... congratulations, dude :thumbsup:
Dizzy1
07-21-2007, 11:40 PM
Nice harvest! Good job man!
BuddyX
07-23-2007, 06:11 AM
nice man, how much you got?
orangeman
07-23-2007, 12:56 PM
Don't know, don't have a scale. Not a dealer (not saying dealers are the only ones with them) but I really don't care. It's either a lot of bud..or not a lot of bud lol. But anyways damn those things really do shrink. I guess I thought they don't shrink much because my samples were always small anyways but damn lol..it looks better now though, now that the buds have shrank the trichomes look much better on them :D. Really crystally. No macros cuz I suck at them lol but here are some shots.
Also I think the Sativa is making the house stink (still growing) but I also still think this house was sprayed by a skunk. Happened around the same time last year so I'm really really hoping that's what happened. Today the smell is a bit down so I think that was the problem. I really can't risk anything smelling this whole house up because we couldn't even mask that smell. So now I know I really gotta have a plan if I grow some strong strain because there's no way I can have something that strong smelling up this house :p.
horror business
07-23-2007, 01:21 PM
You're right, it does look a lot better now, now that it's dried. I didn't think it was possible for it to look better than it already was, lol. They are covered in trichomes! Have you sampled any more yet, lol?
Can we see a picture of your sativa plant?
horror business
07-23-2007, 01:23 PM
Really crystally. No macros cuz I suck at them lol but here are some shots.
You don't need any micros to see how dank that is.
orangeman
07-23-2007, 01:31 PM
I'll post a pic of the Sativa tonight :). And thanks Horror! It really is dank lol. It's not even dry yet and it seriously messed me up yesterday in a gravity bong. I fucked up so much stuff yesterday lol. Only thing I could do was sit in my chair and listen to music because I'd probably fuck anything up if I tried to anything else. I mean I was on break to get very high from my home grown but still it was crazy haha. Half way dry. I can't wait until it's completely dried and cured! :stoned:
horror business
07-23-2007, 02:21 PM
Hey, how did you make your gravity bong, because in a lot of your posts, it seems to be your favorite smoking method, and a lot of other peoples as well, but every time I try to make one it fails. I've tried it in a bathtub, and the sink, and a bucket, but each time to no avail. The most I get is one hit, before I get pissed and settle on a joint. My main problem is the bowl on top, which I've used aluminum foil for, getting it to stay on, getting the weed to stay on, lol, and then making it fill with smoke, without having all the smoke go everywhere.
Onto your weed, So what's the high like? Trippy, stupifying, introspective, couchlocking, appetite inducing, euphoric, etc..? Also, what does it smell like?
Your end product is a perfect example for how bagseed doesn't suck, lol. It's all the grower, and you did an amazing job. Seriously, those buds are covered in trichomes, other than the leaf, I can't see any green lol.
orangeman
07-23-2007, 03:28 PM
Yeah, when it's completely dried I'm gonna take pics with good lighting a magnifying glass and the perfect distance to show really how good it looks. It's not even done drying yet and those buds really are coated in crystals when you look close to them with the naked eye. But I just smoked a gravity bong along with something else I wont mention because this is a Cannabis board. Grabbed a completely lanky bud with barely any density so it really dried out over night but I didnt touch it until today. Burns perfect and not harsh at all. And man this is crazy. I swear it's like it started in my chest and spread out through my whole body and I went completely numb. My brain feels like. um..well it feels slow lol. It's really euphoric and it changes my senses in every way. Music really sounds way better everything looks different and it's crazy how deep you meditate with this. I freaked my self out with some of the thoughts I was thinking. That's one thing I hate about smoking, I realize the reality of some things and I actually start thinking so deep and convince my self about certain things. It's almost like when I'm high I'm normal as far as my though process goes. Sometimes I think when I'm sober I'm a bit crazy. Sounds backwards eh? lol.. But I did see a few amber trichs. It's like a mix between a heady high and body high. I feel heavy and cant move very slow and glued to the seat but at the same time my head is having a heavy rush and my thoughts are just flying. I have a bowl sitting right here in front of me waiting for me when I'm done with this post haha. I feel like a noob again lol, this is some good stuff.
hydrocannabis
07-23-2007, 04:04 PM
R UR plants bagseed? or a kind of strain you bought.
dammm the buds look very sparkly. very bling bling.
orangeman
07-23-2007, 04:17 PM
Bag seed from some very very good bud I had. I'd like to give my thanks to a dude named Mark. Not Markass. My old reliable dealer :). I'm sure this plant was from one of his seeds because his buds are the only ones I saved seeds from that were big brown and had deep dark stripes on them lol. I picked one of those and 2 others. The Sativa growing down there came from a poor looking seed but I wanted to give it a try.
orangeman
07-23-2007, 07:57 PM
Hey, how did you make your gravity bong, because in a lot of your posts, it seems to be your favorite smoking method, and a lot of other peoples as well, but every time I try to make one it fails. I've tried it in a bathtub, and the sink, and a bucket, but each time to no avail. The most I get is one hit, before I get pissed and settle on a joint. My main problem is the bowl on top, which I've used aluminum foil for, getting it to stay on, getting the weed to stay on, lol, and then making it fill with smoke, without having all the smoke go everywhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lAdN2SARFI
I made mines just like this except I didn't use a drill to make the hole. Just carved a hole out with a knife.
TheGreenFog
07-23-2007, 08:19 PM
Hey, O-man. Well, congrats on yer harvest, man. That looks superb. Glad it's got the kick to it, as well. I bet you're stoked to finally have some of your own homegrown herb. It's a treat, eh? Knowing where it came from is worth a lot sometimes. Everyone should be able to be as lucky. Again, congrats, man. I'll be peeking in to see your Sativa harvest. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
That gravity bong video is very cool. I've never seen one made like that. That's way cooler than the ones I used to make/smoke-from. Thanks for that vid.
Hopefully, I will be able to throw some updates on my log today also...we'll see. Keep an eye out. ;)
Be Cool.
The Fog :rastasmoke:
horror business
07-24-2007, 01:49 AM
Yeah, I'm definitely making one of those gravity bongs tomorrow. Thanks for the video orangeman. Let's see that sativa plant!
Peace,
:rasta:
orangeman
07-24-2007, 03:38 AM
Lol nah, maybe a lil later. Doesn't really look too different. Still the same ol' plant. I'm waiting for those trichs to start covering those buds. It's being mean and not doing much for me right now :(.
TheGreenFog
07-24-2007, 03:55 AM
Hey, O-man. Should I buy a Volcano, man? :vap_rasta:
;)
The Fog :rastasmoke:
orangeman
07-24-2007, 01:28 PM
So glad that there's so many interested in the great g-bong :D. And GreenFog if you have the money and can spare I would definitely go for it! I wish I had enough money for one :) Anyways heres a line of knock off guard leaves with a bit of trichomes, a bunch of pistils and a few knock off budlets. Just had a joint and have to say it stays lit and burns off a clean white ash and it is over-dry (I believe). Also the bud in the picture is not the one I smoked. I know the leaves are still a bit green but they are soo dry. I was hoping something like this didn't happen but :( w/e.. but hopefully the cure lets off some more nutes because I think that was the cause for the constant sparkling going on in that J. This line is about to be smoked in a bowl just because it was collected at the bottom of the paper bags I put them in. They really didn't need that treatment, some how they were very dry to the touch without the branches they were on even snapping. They were still bendable :wtf:. But anyways I'll check the jars every now and again and see if any molding goes on. Hopefully not :D.
And yes GreenFog it feels much much much better knowing just exactly how your plant grew, what was given to it and what wasn't given to it. I like to have a smoke so when I had to buy, that's what I did but the thought of what happened to the bud while it was growing never failed to pass my mind. And yes the laws suck with Cannabis. More people should become bold and just go ahead and get them selves a grow op going. Just where ever it is it just has to be very safe. I say if you have the perfect area, that one you walk past in the house and think "I could grow some weed there" or go out and find a good good part of the outdoors where no one ever comes and get one going. Everyone should grow their own Jane! :rastasmoke:
horror business
07-24-2007, 03:58 PM
lol, I want to see the sativa!
hydrocannabis
07-24-2007, 04:13 PM
right on bro. that bud looks great.
and yah I also LOVE my home grown bud.
olliegrow
07-24-2007, 05:54 PM
so how much did you yield bro?
orangeman
07-24-2007, 06:09 PM
I dunno don't have a scale.
Other plant still growing. Gonna have to get some more jars :-/.
horror business
07-25-2007, 04:07 AM
That looks like a great amount. But, I still want to see a picture of the sativa plant.
BUZz UK
07-25-2007, 08:26 AM
Nice grow orangeman, good to see you got a fat crop off that plant. Looks really tasty too...
orangeman
07-25-2007, 04:04 PM
That looks like a great amount. But, I still want to see a picture of the sativa plant.
Ok ok I'll take some tonight sheesh >:(
orangeman
07-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Omfg. Today my light got lagged about 5 minutes behind the time it was suppose to turn on because my hook up just acted completely retarded. I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn on and then I took a new bulb and screwed it in the socket I have (a plug hooked up to the light socket) and then all of a sudden everything cuts on..like wtf. Just because I tapped a bulb in there everything starts working again, and I never even screwed the bulb in, just tapped the plug-up thing. How retarded...but other than that every things cool :).
BuddyX
07-26-2007, 03:38 AM
sativa plant pics :_)
Alwayz_Stoned
07-26-2007, 06:35 AM
Looks good Orangeman! how about pix of other plant??
orangeman
07-26-2007, 02:15 PM
Damn I keep forgetting. I was messed up last night. I even woke up with a little weed hang over lol.. but wake n bake cleared that up. But as for the Sativa, It's not that amazing! >:-( I'll try to remember pics tonight I PROMISE :mad:..
horror business
07-26-2007, 04:16 PM
lol, awesome. So, how much have you smoked of your harvest yet?
orangeman
07-26-2007, 04:21 PM
I dunno, just a little bit :).
orangeman
07-26-2007, 04:35 PM
Wow. The lights screwed up so bad on me. The power kept going out so I went downstairs to flip the switch and I decided to turn off the fan in the room to help some of the really unneeded things to be turned off and I discovered my light was still on. 3 hours longer than it should have been. Usually it turns on at 9 pm and turns off at 9 am. It was on 3 hours longer than it should have been. Now I have to go down there and turn the light on manually when 9 pm comes around. I swear I hope this stuff doesn't cause hermies. Those things still have 1 or two weeks to go.
horror business
07-26-2007, 05:08 PM
Yeah, I'm getting a digital timer, and you should too. I had the same problem with those dial timers, not doing what they're supposed to, and messing up my light cycle.
orangeman
07-26-2007, 07:21 PM
Yeah, I'm getting a digital timer, and you should too. I had the same problem with those dial timers, not doing what they're supposed to, and messing up my light cycle.
Nah the timer is fine. It's just the electricity that was acting up. If the power goes out in the room I'll know because every time the lights and stuff go off in the room, the power always goes off in my room as well and shuts down the computer and everything. And yesterday I went down there to check on it and some how the electricity was messed up. It wasn't on and it was about 5 mins behind time. Then I guess the power went off a few times today so I went in there to check on everything and the light was still on. It's something with the electricity. If nothing else goes out after tonight the lights will be back on the correct schedule.
horror business
07-27-2007, 12:47 AM
sativa, lol. has your harvest improved with the cure?
orangeman
07-27-2007, 01:40 AM
sativa, lol. has your harvest improved with the cure?
Not really.
KL4D4
07-27-2007, 04:48 PM
let it sit for a month and smoke it fat :) I wish I'd let all of mine cure fully...
orangeman
07-27-2007, 07:50 PM
I'm trying my best lol. It's really starting to look better thanks to the jarring :).
Nocturnal Stoner
07-27-2007, 08:05 PM
well done orangeman, been following this thread since the beginning and it's satisfying to see such a successful harvest. Good on ya
hydrocannabis
07-27-2007, 10:57 PM
orangman. your bud look SO SO SO bad ass for bagseed.
:stoned:home grown buds R the best buds. cus U know how they were grown.:D:stoned:
OVER AN OUT.:rastasmoke: AND HAVE FUN WIT ur BUDS bro.
BuddyX
07-27-2007, 11:20 PM
fuck ya, but still lets see the pic of that other plant
horror business
07-28-2007, 12:20 AM
fuck ya, but still lets see the pic of that other plant
lol I know! C'mon orangeman!
olliegrow
07-28-2007, 02:14 AM
dude did your sativa put on more weight than your others? mine did for sure, tons of thc crytals and a sweet ginger smell. This one is a keeper, not bad for shwag bag seed, maybe cross it with my whiterhino that didnt yield so good due to the streching or heat.
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/122973-5-weeks-flowering-2-150-hps-new-mexico-closet-grow.html
BuddyX
07-28-2007, 02:19 AM
i think OM should be put in the growers lounge now lol
orangeman
07-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Ollie yes omg they put on so much weight. I don't know why but I'm glad but I didn't expect it though. Those buds took a long time to show up and when they did they were all spaced out and looked like they were just gonna be small nuggets. But man they grew out so big :O. My current buds are constantly looking more like normal buds so they don't look so airy but the fact is they still don't have much weight. But the other plant looks like it's gonna have some dense heads. And the trichomes are showing up so much more since the last time I checked. I'm glad I'm not an eager grower (still working on the eagerness for smoking though lol) because everything would have not been as good as it is now if I didn't wait it out. I was actually ready to cut my buds that are curing now down way before I did. I'm glad I let it go just a few more weeks. And as for the Sativa I really think it's going to be better than this current stuff because I'm going to already have experience in manicuring, drying and curing. I accidentally let the buds I have now set out too long because my room is VERY well ventilated and they dried out before the stems were even ready to snap. I guess I should have been watching the buds close and not the stems. And I didn't know how the leaves shrunk and looked less annoying on the plant when they dried out because I never watched that process before so the manicure will be better, I cut off soooo many pistils on my plant I cut down lol.
I tried to get some good shots but I suck at that :(
horror business
07-28-2007, 04:19 PM
HAHA THAT'S AMAZING! You're right, their buds sure did get a hell of a lot better! Have you sampled any off of this plant yet? If so, what was the high like, compared to your other plant?
Peace,
:rasta:
olliegrow
07-28-2007, 04:55 PM
I took some pics of my sativa for ya orangeman..they look alot better than my high grade plants. I tested some out this morning and its a 100% stone but also an active stone. Tasted great but i think it wouldnt hurt to keep her growing for another week at most. About 50% brown hairs with pink hues. The pics arent the best.
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/122973-5-weeks-flowering-2-150-hps-new-mexico-closet-grow.html
olliegrow
07-28-2007, 05:00 PM
oh and when i dry i use a food deydrator for about 6-8 hours, then cure them for 24 hrs and they come out dry but sticky. I tried leaving them out because my climate is almost 0% humidity so they dry out quick so i figured i can watch and control the dehydrator better..got it off ebay for $10.. ronco food dehydrator...
hydrocannabis
07-28-2007, 06:04 PM
dammmmm thats some bad ass sativa buds U got there. OM
orangeman
07-28-2007, 10:57 PM
HAHA THAT'S AMAZING! You're right, their buds sure did get a hell of a lot better! Have you sampled any off of this plant yet? If so, what was the high like, compared to your other plant?
Peace,
:rasta:
Thanks everyone :D and no I haven't sampled the plant yet. I sampled it a while ago and got nothing more than a buzz that was barely noticeable. Haven't sampled it since. I don't think I'll sample it again, just wait until it's just right and cut it down and sample it when it finally dries. I promise I'll do a better job not touching this plant until it's at least in decent condition from curing :).
Rock.Steady
07-29-2007, 12:30 AM
DAMM DUDE.
NICE GROW!:thumbsup:
Alwayz_Stoned
07-29-2007, 06:17 AM
Looking Good!:thumbsup:
BuddyX
07-29-2007, 07:35 AM
always nice, hey o-man, how old is that plant? the satvia?
orangeman
07-30-2007, 05:33 PM
11 weeks flowering tomorrow. The trichomes should really start kicking in now since I don't guess Sativas flower for any more than 14 weeks I guess lol. Can't wait to smoke this one!
olliegrow
08-01-2007, 04:25 PM
yeah my sativa is on week 10 now and smells like sweet flowers. its about 60% brown haired and full of trichromes, im gonna sample some more today cause it looks like it might come down this weekend, anyone wanna help me do some cuttin?
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/122973-5-weeks-flowering-2-150-hps-new-mexico-closet-grow.html
Earthy Dank
08-01-2007, 06:22 PM
oh and when i dry i use a food deydrator for about 6-8 hours, then cure them for 24 hrs and they come out dry but sticky. I tried leaving them out because my climate is almost 0% humidity so they dry out quick so i figured i can watch and control the dehydrator better..got it off ebay for $10.. ronco food dehydrator...
Curing weed is the equivalent aging wine... It can't be done in 24 hours... it'd still taste like grass. You gotta give it atleast 3 weeks in jars. Once it cures it will taste ALOT better and get you ALOT higher...
Buddahbear
08-01-2007, 06:32 PM
VERY nice garden orange man. I hope you got a strait spot to grow in so it doesn't get busted by any BITCH ASS POLICES! Tell me how it all smokes!
Fugitive
08-02-2007, 12:39 AM
Great too see that you're growing some very nice looking buds :)
orangeman
08-02-2007, 01:18 AM
VERY nice garden orange man. I hope you got a strait spot to grow in so it doesn't get busted by any BITCH ASS POLICES!
lol umm...ok.
horror business
08-03-2007, 05:13 PM
Let's see some updated Sativa pics. So, how much of your first harvest do you have left, lol? I'm not sure I'd have any left if I was in your position.
Peace,
:rasta:
orangeman
08-04-2007, 03:17 AM
Let's see some updated Sativa pics. So, how much of your first harvest do you have left, lol? I'm not sure I'd have any left if I was in your position.
Peace,
:rasta:
Ummm I dunno. I never really smoked any of the buds that were really worth a lot. Mostly little airy nugs that never got that much light but were potent for their condition. I still have a few small buds left and then I'll still have a lot of good buds. I don't have a scale but I still have a lot left. But man this stuff is a treat now I'm telling ya. Wow two g-bong rips really puts me in the zoooone. Seriously this weed is very very potent and it seems to never build a fast tolerance in me. Usually one bowl when I wake up in the morning still can get me very high even after all my g-bong and blunt smoking. It's wonderful, plus I'm gonna have this Sativa soon. It's truly a Sativa because at first it was pissing me off by not showing that many trichomes but in these past few days it's been making a lot and some are visible now. In some plants I hear trichomes can just start appearing in the 12th week which is next week. I'm sure it won't be more than 14 weeks (I HOPE) I swear this plant better be worth it for all this waiting time :mad:
Earthy Dank
08-04-2007, 05:24 PM
Ummm I dunno. I never really smoked any of the buds that were really worth a lot. Mostly little airy nugs that never got that much light but were potent for their condition. I still have a few small buds left and then I'll still have a lot of good buds. I don't have a scale but I still have a lot left. But man this stuff is a treat now I'm telling ya. Wow two g-bong rips really puts me in the zoooone. Seriously this weed is very very potent and it seems to never build a fast tolerance in me. Usually one bowl when I wake up in the morning still can get me very high even after all my g-bong and blunt smoking. It's wonderful, plus I'm gonna have this Sativa soon. It's truly a Sativa because at first it was pissing me off by not showing that many trichomes but in these past few days it's been making a lot and some are visible now. In some plants I hear trichomes can just start appearing in the 12th week which is next week. I'm sure it won't be more than 14 weeks (I HOPE) I swear this plant better be worth it for all this waiting time :mad:
Damnnn.... you gotta lot of patience
GDS StonerBoy
08-04-2007, 09:36 PM
Very nice grow Oman, i definitely admire your patience, wish i had as much as you. I have a long way to go but when i get their i'll have a constant harvest to supply my pothead needs!:jointsmile:
orangeman
08-04-2007, 09:58 PM
Lol unless I'm hyped up by a strain or taken by surprise I usually wouldn't go through this. I don't think I will ever grow a strain that will have me waiting too long unless it's truly worth it. But hey like I said as long as I have some bud to hold me over until the plants are done, then I'm completely fine.
orangeman
08-05-2007, 01:20 AM
Well on Monday I'll take new pics. Yes it's definitely lookin' better. Startin to remind me of my other plant when it was starting to frost up. If it keeps this up by Monday it should look very good! I had a sample of it, smelled soooo familiar. Funny because I smoked it before and now I'm growin it. Can't wait for the final thing. Not even ready right now so I know it's gonna be probably a while before it gets mature enough to knock me out lol. We'll just see how things go :D.
horror business
08-05-2007, 01:40 AM
I can't wait to see pictures on Monday. So, it still didn't get you high when you sampled it? Or just not that well?
Rock.Steady
08-05-2007, 02:58 AM
O-man, right on with the patience dude!:wtf:
dude, i never waited so long for something right in front of me.
its a nail biter, but, im gettin really happy watchin mine mature, so i know the kinda relief u must be feelin!:thumbsup:
and i agree with "as long as i have some bud to smoke, to get me thru".
I am sooo lookin forward to sparkin my first spliff of my-own-grown
keep the faith!
Jah Love!:rastasmoke:
Rock.
Earthy Dank
08-05-2007, 10:01 PM
I can't wait to see pictures on Monday. So, it still didn't get you high when you sampled it? Or just not that well?
I ran into this problem to in my first couple of grows. I would try to smoke some early or right after the harvest.. and it wouldn't get me that high.
Like if I smokes I would feel like I would kinda dizzy and lightheaded and I could feel like a weird pressure on the back of my eyes.... This is because it isnt cured... For bud to get you high you have to dry it out and wait AT LEAST 2 WEEKS before starting to smoke it. This was hard because after all the work I put into harvesting these plants makes me impatience... But there is nothing you can really do to speed this process up. I've never really tried it with fresh buds but you could try water curing it for a sample.... It would only take a week but the water would pull out alot of taste as well as clorophyll and fertilizers.... The best advice I can give you though it to give your buds 3 weeks before you smoke them... After about 3-4 weeks the taste starts to really shine through as all the ferts and clorophyll breakdown. It will taste like grass at first too... who wants to smoke grass?
horror business
08-06-2007, 06:57 PM
Today's the day for sativa pictures, right?
Peace,
:rasta:
orangeman
08-06-2007, 09:52 PM
Yep, I'll take some if possible. and Earthy you're so true. I mean I fuckin' hate my self for this lol. It happened to me about 3 times before. I had bought bud twice before that got SO much better with just some time spent in the jars. But by the time it has gotten better, most of it was gone. Now I'm pissed, this home grown is the 3rd time I've had bud that has gotten very very much better with just time. When I was first smoking it I got VERY high but I would come down sort of...sooner than expected. And it was still harsh and sort of tasted like green. I mean even though it's only been curing for two weeks I can notice a difference in the feeling, (not as dry, before it was very very very dry) I can tell a difference in the taste and a big difference in the potency especially. But for some reason it still sorta smells like hay. When I grind it up though, it has a very intense piney smell to it. Like it really reminds me of good smelling cleaning detergents lol. I just had 3 waterfall bong hits and damn I'm fuuucked. It's like I had just the same amount a week ago and I was very high but NOT like this. I can feel everything and it's so sensitive. Don't want to go into detail and start making my self sound weird but in two words..I'm fucked. :stoned:
I can't wait for that plant to get done growing. I won't make the same mistake of touching the goodies before they are ready. Because I'll just be smoking the stuff I'm smokin' on right now :). I swear sometimes when I break up this bud it looks so great with those crystals just looking like giant sugar balls I don't even want to burn it lol. It sucks I'm always sad before I get high because I'm burning up my beautiful harvest :(. If it gets any more potent than this then it might last me for a while...hopefully. I think I am going to try to change plans though and start another grow earlier than I expected. Honestly I don't think I have anymore than an a half of this current stuff and my harvest will probably yield a ounce so really this shit is not going to last me until my next harvest if I keep holding out the grow. I think I have another plan of growth to hold off grows from happening so soon..(try not to get lost with my plan...) I think I'm going to attempt to keep a mother alive but VERY small under four 100 watt CFL's for all her life until I decide to flower her...dunno how the hell that's going to happen but I'll attempt it :-/. Like after this grow I'm taking everything out and I'm going to section off the room so that one side is a room for a small mother. See if you look at the pics on the left side of the room if you notice a dehumidifer in any pics there is a some what large area that possibly can fit one small mother for growth.. The mother, grown from seed and will be topped and LST and try to keep her small and when she gets old enough I will take cuttings from it. And then I let the clones sit in the room with the mom until they root and the minute they root I give them like one more week of vegging under my 250 watt HPS where my current grow is taking place. And then I switch to 12/12 and harvest all the clones once they are done and at the same time I'll have other clones in the room with the mom waiting to be moved into the flowering room, I keep that a constant thing until I get about 7-8 oz. Then I'll flower the mom and I'll be done with the whole thing until my next grow. The idea is to get as much bud as I can from a constant supply of clones so I won't have to grow again so soon. I realize growing is illegal, although it's a beautiful plant and sure as hell is a good hobby it's still a very risky and bold thing to do in this country. And it's much easier to hide a stash than hiding a light, live plants, soil and or hydro set up nutrients and all that so my whole goal of growing at all times is just to get a very nice amount of bud to supply my big ganja appetite and keeps me away from growing for at least a 6 month period. I can try to moderate it and smoke a few grams a day everyday for that 6 month period and it'll last me a while maybe..I think I like that idea :rastasmoke:
Oh and no Horror it really didn't get me high but I expected that. It wasn't really that many trichomes on it anyways but it was a very weak buzz. Still needs a while.
horror business
08-06-2007, 10:30 PM
Sounds like a plan. So what strain are you thinking about trying for your mother plant? Or are you going to do another bag seed run?
orangeman
08-07-2007, 02:55 AM
I dunno, I'll see when that time comes.
horror business
08-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Is today the day for pictures?
orangeman
08-07-2007, 10:50 PM
Is today the day for pictures?
Lol maybe. Sorry yesterday I was a bit busy. Couldn't get around to it.
KL4D4
08-07-2007, 11:09 PM
Do you own a camera even?
BuddyX
08-08-2007, 02:31 AM
did you cut ur sativa plant yet?
Shovelhandle
08-08-2007, 01:58 PM
curing in jars makes such a difference in smell, flavor and potency. We must wait, or at least smoke some trim or something until the good bud is ready.
My broinlaw could never be convinced of that. Last season we grew out the same variety (New England Bubblegum). We both agreed that his sucked. Mine was excellent. He still isn't convinced why. Slow learner.
Shov
orangeman
08-08-2007, 02:48 PM
Do you own a camera even?
Lol yes I have a camera. No I didn't cut my plant down and I'll try to get the pics when I can, damn I've been busy :wtf:
olliegrow
08-08-2007, 04:43 PM
hey bro I have been doing the food dehydrator for some time and its works great. Usually 12-20 hours in the dehyd and then cure for a few days if you want better smoke or if your in a rush you can smoke on a little straight out of the dehydrator. Its not the best but it works for us impatient growers. I do it all the time..by week eight im ready to cut, ripe or not. Its always disappointing smoke when rushed...peace from new mexico.
olliegrow
08-09-2007, 07:30 PM
hey bro i put up more pics of my last indica/sativa bagseed plant.
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-pictures/122973-5-weeks-flowering-2-150-hps-new-mexico-closet-grow.html
orangeman
08-10-2007, 03:49 AM
Man my shit smells sweet and like grass. Wish it'd smell more skunky like the weed I buy. Meh I guess the smell isn't a problem, as long as I got weed. I'll take pics tonight and have em up in the morning I promise loool..
BuddyX
08-10-2007, 06:11 AM
lol...PICSSSSSSS
orangeman
08-10-2007, 02:09 PM
here. Also gave it some fert yesterday. Since it's probably going to be longer than 2 week wait (yes even at 12 weeks it's going to be even longer) I just decided to give it some feed. It was weak but at least it's something. As you can see in the pics this is near the end of the 12th week and these trichomes are just showing up. There are actually a lot of small trichomes everywhere but they are small and clear. Guess eventually they'll all just get more mature and bigger lol. Still waitin :wtf:
And Ollie I'm not the one to rush, I can wait lol. And nice plants :D.
horror business
08-10-2007, 07:19 PM
Nice big sativa buds! :)
I'd say two more weeks by the looks of things.
Best of luck.
Oh, can you take pictures of your previous harvest, so we can see how the buds look now, after some time curing, etc...?
orangeman
08-11-2007, 03:09 AM
Lol I smoked so much :(.
hydrocannabis
08-11-2007, 03:40 AM
dammm that looks so good.
Alwayz_Stoned
08-11-2007, 07:55 AM
looks very good!!!
the joint meister
08-11-2007, 08:19 AM
damn i just got done reading the whole thread in two settings and all i have to say is good fuckin jog o-man, that was a great grow and a verry verry good grow for a first timer, its good to see ppl as young as u (i cant really say that im only 23) gettin into this hobby, very nice plants and a very nice grow man,
peace out tJm
orangeman
08-11-2007, 01:06 PM
Thanks :D also I think I might be starting a new grow sooner than I expected. Like really soon. We'll see how it goes..
orangeman
08-11-2007, 01:54 PM
Y'know Joint Meister I did the same thing you did and re-read this thread completely over. There is only a few things I would have done differently and that's do a better job on the LST and secondly I would have definitely let the plant I harvested go a bit longer than it did. I'm mooooore than happy with what it does for me but I really wonder what just maybe 3 more weeks would have done to it....well it's cut now so I guess I gotta be happy with what I got. But my next grow I'm going to let them go like seriously 50/50 with the trichs. Next time around I'm not going to be posting so many pictures. I want to try and keep my log's small. I hate having giant freggin threads when it's pertaining to my very own freggin grow :wtf:...
BuddyX
08-11-2007, 09:40 PM
K, when u start a new grow, dont goto basic growing, goto the grow lounge, cuz to the looks of ur shit, u aint a basic ne more :)
the joint meister
08-11-2007, 10:00 PM
it is a long ass thread isint it o-man, can't wait till ur next grow bro, its funny tho becuase at the begining u said
" don't plan to update this daily or all the time like most others do"
then shov said
"I might suggest one update a week...That would make the completed log a reasonable 3 pages including feedback posts" LOL
guess that didint happen lol
peace out tJm
orangeman
08-12-2007, 10:55 PM
hahaha yeah I guess not, dunno wtf happened :wtf:
the joint meister
08-13-2007, 02:20 AM
haha its becuase they love you sooo much orange man your fans couldint let this be just a lil log they wanted a big ass son of a bitch log,
so hows that sativa dom plant coming allong you havint chopped it yet have u?
p.s. smoke a blunt for me im dry and broke lol
peace out TjM
orangeman
08-13-2007, 05:02 AM
Lol smoke a bowl instead, blunts kill my stash :O. And no I haven't chopped the plant. Decided to give it some more feed. Now just gonna feed it water until it's ready. It's really starting to produce a lot of trichomes all over. Much more than before. Can't wait to see what this one is like, that's for sure. It better be some really potent shit to take up all this time >:-[.
Props to you, orangeman. I am fuckin' jealous. I really hope my first grow goes as good as yours did. The harvested bud looks good. Will you be showing bulk pics of the bud after the harvest, and after the curing? I can't wait if you do :). Gotta love them sativas. Yields are skimpy in comparison to most indicas, but the high is so worth it.
Could you give a smoke report on the sativa when you smoke it after curing, too? :thumbsup:
the joint meister
08-13-2007, 07:48 AM
yea man i know what u mean about the blunts killin a stash why u think im dry? o well weed is ment to be smoked,
(enjoy ur rating)
peace out TjM
orangeman
08-14-2007, 02:23 AM
Props to you, orangeman. I am fuckin' jealous. I really hope my first grow goes as good as yours did. The harvested bud looks good. Will you be showing bulk pics of the bud after the harvest, and after the curing? I can't wait if you do :). Gotta love them sativas. Yields are skimpy in comparison to most indicas, but the high is so worth it.
Could you give a smoke report on the sativa when you smoke it after curing, too? :thumbsup:
Well it won't be any reason to show both of the harvests together because by the time that other plant is dry enough to smoke and cured to the way I like it then this will all probably be gone. Current weed been curing for 3 weeks now. Much less harsh, not really harsh at all now. Much better than before. I really wish I didn't touch it at all until it was at least cured for these 3 weeks but hey things happen. I'm gonna try my best to not touch the other harvest. But I'm sure this up coming harvest will be much better anyways because the buds are much more dense, much more bud mass so it's much more on the nuggets. On the plant I harvested already there were a lot of airy buds which had a lot of space that could have been filled in but I guess the light penetration was very poor, that or the plant was too leafy because the sativa seemed to fill in quite nicely. And of course i'm gonna give a smoke report of it. If it's shitty I'll say so, won't make an excuse. I honestly thought it was gonna be shitty bud about 1-2 weeks ago but this is the 13th week and now like I said the trichomes are really popping out now, so if it can survive with the little nutrients it has due to the over-flushing, in a few weeks things should look really good on it and it should be some good smoke :).
the joint meister
08-14-2007, 05:53 AM
im waiting with bells on :D
peace out TjM
BuddyX
08-14-2007, 02:12 PM
agreed with tjm/.\
Shovelhandle
08-14-2007, 02:46 PM
waitin'......... : )
orangeman
08-14-2007, 02:52 PM
Yah we're all waitin lol. Today makes the official 14th week. I just checked under the microscope and now there are a lot of cloudy trichomes coming up, there are a lot of trichomes with milky heads and still a lot with clear heads too and there are a lot without stalks. I dunno I'm thinking about giving them full strength nutes next time I water just for one last time. I know now I could have fed them in between that time I stopped feeding and now but I didn't know how long to expect to be waiting for it to finish. I dunno what should I do? If the nutes won't really help speed or increase the trichome production then never mind that question.
the image reaper
08-14-2007, 03:07 PM
Orangeman, sounds as if you are within two weeks, of harvest ... I would NOT add any nutes at this point, just clear water ... you might give her a good dose or two of molasses this week, nothing in the last week ... :smokin:
orangeman
08-14-2007, 03:09 PM
Orangeman, sounds as if you are within two weeks, of harvest ... I would NOT add any nutes at this point, just clear water ... you might give her a good dose or two of molasses this week, nothing in the last week ... :smokin:
Ah alright then, it's just that most of the plants leaves are either dying or turning yellow and I want it to finish asap with any help I can give it...but I'll just wait I guess and see how things look in the near future :).
Well it won't be any reason to show both of the harvests together because by the time that other plant is dry enough to smoke and cured to the way I like it then this will all probably be gone. Current weed been curing for 3 weeks now. Much less harsh, not really harsh at all now. Much better than before. I really wish I didn't touch it at all until it was at least cured for these 3 weeks but hey things happen. I'm gonna try my best to not touch the other harvest. But I'm sure this up coming harvest will be much better anyways because the buds are much more dense, much more bud mass so it's much more on the nuggets. On the plant I harvested already there were a lot of airy buds which had a lot of space that could have been filled in but I guess the light penetration was very poor, that or the plant was too leafy because the sativa seemed to fill in quite nicely. And of course i'm gonna give a smoke report of it. If it's shitty I'll say so, won't make an excuse. I honestly thought it was gonna be shitty bud about 1-2 weeks ago but this is the 13th week and now like I said the trichomes are really popping out now, so if it can survive with the little nutrients it has due to the over-flushing, in a few weeks things should look really good on it and it should be some good smoke :).
Yep, things do happen. I can totally understand it, though. I am sure that I would as well smoke it before it's ready. But hey, it's a patience game. Worth it in the long-run, and you already know this :).
Keep it real, orangeman.:jointsmile:
horror business
08-19-2007, 06:38 AM
Let's see some updated Sativa bud shots!
ganjzilla
08-19-2007, 07:14 AM
yeah i agree with horror lets see something orange...good grow man
Duke420
08-19-2007, 07:29 AM
dying leaves is normal, don't sweat it. 75% of my fan leaves die off my ww. Kind of scared me at first, but she didnt blink and has me warm all over.
orangeman
08-20-2007, 03:35 AM
I moved some things out of the room and set up the second room. Still working on making it light-proof. With my next grow I might not do a log until it's flowering, but I might post pics of the grow in this thread and other threads. Until it starts flowering.
the joint meister
08-20-2007, 04:49 AM
sooooooo.... any ew pics?:D
peace out TjM
orangeman
08-20-2007, 01:30 PM
sooooooo.... any ew pics?:D
peace out TjM
Nope, it doesn't look different. Last two weeks regardless to if it's actually worthy of being potent, next week is week 16 and that's as far as I'm going and I'll remember to never fuck with a sativa dom. plant ever again unless I'm buying it or unless the strain has a short flowering time AT LEAST SHORTER THAN 16 WEEKS! lol So I'm gonna stop posting pics until I harvest.
I'm a little late, but nice log man, great grow. Congrats :hippy:
horror business
08-20-2007, 07:10 PM
Are most of the hairs still white? Or are the majority turning red?
orangeman
08-20-2007, 07:44 PM
Some are red but not a large amount. It's like more hairs are white than red. I swear to God man I'm considering cutting the top colas off and letting the rest of the plant get light because really this plant is going no where...I'm really an impatient person at this point lol.
the joint meister
08-21-2007, 11:35 AM
damn man 16 WEEKS i dont care what you say you are a very patient person if you let it go this long bro, my hat is off to you lol, i say chop that fucker down and dry/cure it then smoke that senior citezen plant
(im sorry i can't spell:()
peace out TjM
orangeman
08-21-2007, 02:03 PM
Lol Meister the smell cheered me up. I might just let it go longer than 16 weeks if it needs it. That thing really stinks now and I love it, and maybe it'll get better if I just let it live and finish until it's really ready.
I took pics but the lights were off so it was sorta messed up and blurry. Reason I was down there when lights were off because I just set up my separate room and my seed is under 2 100 watt CFL's, hasn't popped out of the dirt yet but I'm sure it probably will by tonight or tomorrow lol. I do have a few small spaces where you can see lights and I tried to take a picture to see how much of a problem it could be but they are so minor that the camera couldn't capture it. I know light leaks period are not good but it's the best I can do, I mean that dehumidifier and surge has red lights on them and they've been glowing every since the flowering began, I don't think my "light leaks" are big enough to cause problems so it's cool. I just can't wait until that seed grows into a healthy mom!
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