Yes or no?

[GHoSToKeR]

Are P2P (kazaa, etc) and BitTorrent (Bittorrent, ABC, etc) file sharing programs going to ruin the music and film industries? I'd like to think what people think..

[Cas420]

It won't ruin it completely but it will prevent bands from seeing the money they would see if the kazaa and shit didn't exist

[DrGonzo]

ruin? matter of opinion. revoloutionize, yes. If these corporations don't wake up and smell the future, then they will one day awake to the startling realization that they are sitting in the midst of a crumbling empire, and they have no way to salvage their once vast and mighty reach...there are some, that are catching on...piracy will exist as long as there is means and reason to do so. I can download all the latest movies a day after they come out in theatres, I can get entire discographys of musicians with a few mouse clicks, but it is still something I would have to do...at the same time, I can go to a flea market booth, ask for 'the list' and then purchase the same movies, already burned to a DVD, and then rewatch it on my own time at my own leisure. what do I care if my $10 goes to a pirate or to the company?

this is what happens when you use media that costs all of $4 to create and try to sell it for $35. maybe someday soon they'll realize that?

[opiuser]

it isn't going to fuck them up... the bands don't really make any money off the cd's anyways, the companies do... THe bands make money from concerts... And anyways tru fans still will buy the cd's... they want the artwork and they dont want a shitty cdr... I use kazaa alot... but for me its pretty much like a preview... if i like what i download, im gonna buy it... and the main thing i download is the music videos cuz MTV can lick my balls. They never play anything good anymore... I HATE RAP, I HATE HIP HOP (except for KMK) and I HATE PUNK AND POP... and most of all I HATE BRITNEY SPEARS!!!. ive seen "my perogative" a thousand times... but usually i just mute the tv and enjoy britney being a whore

[Sedater18]

no.

[Shadow Smoke]

nah they big recording labels are a bunch of bitches! there like the growers that never tell anyone else how to do it right they want to have the corner on the market its a monopoly ((err WAS!)) only a few of the big name labels ever make the big bucks. as a member of a band with NO MONEY!! we add all of our music to kazaa and preform almost every week, we do ok concidering we live in a small town. kazaa and napster are WAY ahead of the big labels they know what the peeps want and give it to them for as little as they can. you have to think big labels got 35 bucks for a CD that might have 12 songs on it and only about 3 of thoses are any good... ((not by choice of the band i;m sure)) they cant compeat with someone selling the same song for 99 cents! and it pisses them off


you dont hear xzibbit or Dr Dre bitching do ya? i dont remember ever hearing OZZY!!the un disputed son of all that is dark pleading with ppl to buy his cd. he hasnt even sent his hellish minions after anyone (( IE lawyers))


the artiest dont care about HOW you get there music they just want you to get it! 35 bucks a CD and they might get 3 bucks or so

last thing i remeber when CDs cost about 15 bucks then came kazaa 20 bucks for a CD napster hit the stage 30!! bucks for a cd they are going the wrong direction!

*sigh* i wander what they are smokeing, cause it must be some rank ass shit!

[Kombucha]

Bands do make a lot more money from recordings than they used to, but obviously producers make a lot too. P2P wont ruin the industry. The main problem in my opinion is legal downloads. If you get no cd case etc. then legal music is no better than illegal music. CD prices should be halved, that would help a lot. It's the same with software like Microsoft Office. I expect very few private owners actually bought their copy, I didn't and never will at these prices. If they maybe made the price 1/10 of what it is, I, and most other people would be far more willing to buy the legal versions and the companies would probably end up making more money.

[jacquelyne]

I think it would have already lost the industry billions cause why would u go by an album when u can download it for free.I buy them.I had kazaa it was shit and kept stuffing my computer.

[Euphoric]

YeS

[clevemire]

this is what happens when you use media that costs all of $4 to create and try to sell it for $35. maybe someday soon they'll realize that? You nailed it on the head, my man. I don't care how I get media, either. I'll crack programs; rent movies and then burn them; download music; and by golly, I'll smoke weed too, dammit!!

[Day Dreamin Faze]

No, there will never be a stop to piracy not matter how much they crack down, its a revolution that was started by a quiet 19 year old highschool drop out named shawn fanning who programed "Napster". I dont think the bands are missing out on money like people above said, TRUE fans will always buy the cd's and will always pay to see them live and thats where the real money is. The people who are bitching are always the ones that dont need the money, they are the ones with 20 cars and 3 mansions livin the life. STFU ALL YOU GREEDY PEOPLE! PEACE NOT GREED!

[Day Dreamin Faze]

To add to that the last CD I bought was prob 4-5 years back, ive never bought a legit copy of microsoft windows or office and dont plan on it, none of my games are legit and i dont ever plan on them being legit. 50$ for a game that you will beat in 2 days then get bored with it WTF IS THIS. A 25$ dvd that you will watch a few times then throw on the movie collection rack and not watch until next year. 9$ for a fucking movie ticket + 15$ for a drink and some popcorn GREEDY MOFOS!

[00Ampersand]

I have no conscience-problem with getting music off p2p programs. Wanna know why? The "film and music industries" (which in this case, refers ONLY to Hollywood and the grandiose music coportations) deserve it. Anyone see/hear the shit coming out of the radio/mtv and movie theatres? What garbage! It seems only fair that I take a listen or look see to make sure that the quality is there, instead of wasting $10 at a movie gallery or $20 on a cd. (that's another thing...why are CDs still so fucking expensive?!?! they've been the same price since I was born. Each cd costs about $1 to press...that's 1900% profit for every cd sold. And guess how much of that goes to the artist? Very very little, my friends. In Canada, if a band goes three times gold, they'd be lucky to get sixty grand--for an album that received 6 MILLION in sales. Who's the one that's really getting ripped off here?...musicians make their pay by touring, and their music is what brings crowds to the shows. What better way to get your music out there than through the internet?).
In reality, only the big corporations are losing out on the money, and I don't give a fuck about them. Independant film companies and record labels are thriving off this e-movement, and that's where the real art comes from. So in conclusion...YAy P2P :)
~007~

[Kombucha]

In Canada, if a band goes three times gold, they'd be lucky to get sixty grand--for an album that received 6 MILLION in sales.

Maybe if they're stupid and got a REALLY bad record deal where they get around 1% of profits.

[Rahein]

No.

So long as the RIAA and MPAA learn to use them as tools. Just like they had to learn to use the radio, VCR, or any other tech.

Also not the BitTorrent is not annonmous. I try not to download files that I know are illeagal and people are sueing over.

[NowhereMan]

if anything it will get me to buy a cd,,if i hear a song i like even if i can download them wont be the same as having a factory cd,and info it contains

i use lime wire
www.limewire.com

[Omun]

it has already ruined them, people are starting to relize just how greedy these companies are becasue they have now started suing people who are using these applications. Even when there is no proof that p2p has any negative affects on either the music industry or the movie industry.