need help to maintain mommas

[wowdoughboy]

Hey guys, im doing a SOG method and i need like up to 60 clones everyday, my question is. How do you keep your momma healthy for over 6 months. I am limited to a 400 hps but thinking switching over to a 600mh to keep my momma strong and healthy for whenever i need clones.

Im having problems right now with my hps because after like 2 month my plants are soo tall that i am obligated to flower them.

Can someone help me. Thankyou.:rasta:

btw my mommas i keep them in a 4x2 ebb and flow tray, using 6in rockwool. Haven't tried LSTing yet should i?

[Tokudai]

60 clones a DAY??? You're gonna need one big momma or several. Try keeping a mom in soil, much easier to maintain and deal with.

[wowdoughboy]

Omg i didnt mean everyday, i mean like 60 clone everytime i clone which is like every 2 months.

[bongerstonerd00d]

Or in Coco.......Why the hell you need 60 clones/day ? You'll never have a mom that can do that. You'd need a 8 foot tree outside at minimum, even then I am going to say its impossible. If you need 60 clones/day, then you need a barn full of moms with enough MH's to light Detroit, or Huston.


b0nger

[wowdoughboy]

guys im sorry i didn't mean 60clones a day i mean't for every cycle which is like every 2 months. Sorry i was :jointsmile:

[stinkyattic]

My advice is SOIL MOTHERS.
Even hydro growers I know keep their moms in dirt. Coco is fine too. In fact I'd prefer it because it's easy to flush.
You can just keep repotting them indefinitely as they get big... or you can prune them aggressively, even when you aren't taking off bits for clones.
MH light is ideal. A 600watter should give you 60 clones a month no problem if you take care of the ladies.
Keeping them helathy means giving them cycles of veg nutes and then prepping them for cloning with some flower nutes (increased P for roots, decreased N is also good for cloning) and -I've made this mistake!!- Don't forget the CalMag if you are in soilless mix... my clones were struggling for the first couple runs after switching to coco because I didn't think of adding calmag, but they ended up with the symptomatic necrotic splotches of a classic Ca def.

[wowdoughboy]

From past experince i do find that soil would be better. But i was thinking about using a 6x6 rockwool at first then when the roots come out i'll transplant them over to a 5gal soil pot. This is so that they can get the fast growth with the rockwool and once their big enough i have the advantage of soil. Would this be fine?

I'm not much of a soil grower, what soil do i use?

[stinkyattic]

From past experince i do find that soil would be better. But i was thinking about using a 6x6 rockwool at first then when the roots come out i'll transplant them over to a 5gal soil pot. This is so that they can get the fast growth with the rockwool and once their big enough i have the advantage of soil. Would this be fine?
I'm not much of a soil grower, what soil do i use?I actually DON"T recommend this as I have seen problems with mothers cloned into rockwool, and then potted into soil, where the stem rots off under the rockwool block. This happened to 3 of my mothers. You CAN safely go from rapidrooters to soil, or coco to soil (coco= hydro so you still get explosive initial growth), or just keep them in coco permanently.
Depending on whether you are going to keep the same mothers for over a year or not, coco is good for really old mothers because it's SO easy to flush, and when you need to repot, you can shake it off really easily and relieve rootbound problems.
For a mother that you intend to keep for a shorter amount of time and then start over with a fresh one, I love a mix of composted humus, composted cow manure, and perlite (40% perlite!!!!). It's very nice and pH is stable over time compared to a mix that does not contain humus. mmmm humus... I love that shit spread on pita bread, lol...