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MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 04:16 AM
<>I'd suggest keeping this in the lounge for a bit so everyone gets to see it before moving it.<>

"Where did I put that damn lighter???" *lighter is in hand*

All jokes aside, as we all know, a common side effect from light to heavy use of cannabis is of course....short-term memory loss. I'm sure we've all experienced it at one time of another. Although only a temporary effect during stages of use, I see a lot of daily/medical users out there that may like to use this info.

Anyway, I figured this may help some people's quality of life possibly...

5-Hydroxytryptophan or 5-HTP is a naturally-occurring amino acid, a precursor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_precursor) to the neurotransmitter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter) serotonin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin) ("happy juice") and an intermediate in tryptophan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptophan) metabolism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism). It is marketed in the US and other countries as a dietary supplement for use as an anti-depressant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant), appetite suppressant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appetite_suppressant), and sleep aid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_aid).

Reductions in serotonergic tone are partially responsible for cognitive deficits (memory loss) resulting from tetrahydrocannibinol (THC, the active component in marijuana).

When taken as a supplement, 5-HTP can significantly attenuate THC-induced memory impairment.

5-HTP causes fewer side effects, if any, than traditional antidepressants.


So, yeah, just some information for whoevers interested. I've personally taken it on a few occasions for other reasons, but this information really struck me as the potential to 'make a whole lot of sense'. Serotonin effects mood, among other things, which in return effects memory. It's also a natural alternative for depression/anxiety, if you have problems with that. I actually noticed after a day or two of use (not weeks like prescription), I felt pretty good about things (not that I didn't before, but it was still a noticable lift I guess you could say).

It's pretty cheap too...you can get 50 or 100mg capsules at any health store (GNC, etc.), for like $5-15 depending on size and brand.

If you have any medical questions, I'd suggest you consult your doctor.
higher4hockey
03-31-2007, 04:19 AM
i forget where ive put my weiner over the years...
conch420
03-31-2007, 04:25 AM
you should really they to find that, it could prove usefull someday.

but yeah thats pretty intersting, i think i might pick some of that up after some reasersh.
xmordeciax
03-31-2007, 04:28 AM
i use 5htp, all it is is synthetic seretonin, you get higher when you take it while you smoke cause it gives your brain more seretonin to push out at one time. its fun stuff and even gives you a great good mood feeling hwne taken by itself
MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 04:30 AM
I found this book too if anyone was interested...

Amazon.com: 5-HTP: The Natural Way to Overcome Depression, Obesity, and Insomnia: Books: Michael Murray (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0553379461/medquestpharm-20)
Skink
03-31-2007, 04:30 AM
I remember when I was 3 me and my twin brother were in a twin stroller and a bird shit on my shirt,,,I went to eat it and my Mom yelled "No Thats Cocky"... I can't remember where I put the freakin remote...
MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 04:31 AM
i forget where ive put my weiner over the years...

Must still be in that manager's wife....

:thumbsup:
higher4hockey
03-31-2007, 04:35 AM
hahahahah im surprised you remember that.
MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 04:44 AM
See, it must be the 5-HTP... (no it's not, I don't smoke much)

Actually, it's just because I catch you bragging about it all the time.

Nah, jk hah, I dunno....but I have seen it on more than one occasion and it just stuck I guess. Although I think it stuck after the first time you said it, just the way you said it was funny.
higher4hockey
03-31-2007, 04:47 AM
i was working in erie for a week a few weeks ago and she lives pretty close to erie , so i call her up tell her im going to be in erie for the week and we should get naked....


...she stood me up. i couldnt believe it.
MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 04:55 AM
That's funny shit. More so that you are still in contact with her.
yankeesgirl83
03-31-2007, 12:17 PM
i've used 5htp for months at a time as an alternative to prescription anti-depressants. it does work. at least i feel happier and more motivated when i take it. i feel like it stops working as well as it does in the beginning after about two or three months though. then again perhaps it's in my head.
birdgirl73
03-31-2007, 12:27 PM
I used it for several months about 6 years ago and had that same experience, Yankeesgirl--it didn't seem to be as effective after several months as it did in the beginning. That caused me to wonder whether, in me, the initial mood boost might have simply been a placebo effect.

I have a new neurologist I'm about to see about some problems I'm having, several of which are making me feel lower than I normally do, and I'm going to ask him what he thinks about 5-HTP. I also want to know if it interacts with other meds in any way.
MacWQ33
03-31-2007, 09:09 PM
Probably be a good idea to move this to Medical now I guess...might have more of any effect there.
slipknotpsycho
03-31-2007, 11:45 PM
until yankee and bird's post i was about to get some.... but the last thing i need is an anti depressant that works ok for a few months and then sends me crashing and burning back down to where i was before hand...

getting off an anti-depressant when it even slightly worked is like 10x worse then never of having it to begin with.... cuz there you are 'normal' and all of a sudden you take a huge plunge back down into that depressing darkness.... but instead of already benig used to it since you've managed to escape awhile, you slam back into it like a space ship slamming into the atmosphere.... it's a severely horrible ride and all you can do is hope you make it out of it.
Andrew Nguyen
03-31-2007, 11:50 PM
To be honest, I have a hard time remembering anything. I don't even know what I did yesterday.
Skink
03-31-2007, 11:55 PM
Probably be a good idea to move this to Medical now I guess...might have more of any effect there.

Granted,,,looks like this def belongs here now...
MacWQ33
04-01-2007, 02:48 PM
until yankee and bird's post i was about to get some.... but the last thing i need is an anti depressant that works ok for a few months and then sends me crashing and burning back down to where i was before hand...

getting off an anti-depressant when it even slightly worked is like 10x worse then never of having it to begin with.... cuz there you are 'normal' and all of a sudden you take a huge plunge back down into that depressing darkness.... but instead of already benig used to it since you've managed to escape awhile, you slam back into it like a space ship slamming into the atmosphere.... it's a severely horrible ride and all you can do is hope you make it out of it.

It's natural...no withdrawal of any kind. The reason they made those comments was probably due to the fact that the stuff had done it's job by a few months...thus them not 'noticing' it anymore. Even if it was placebo (obviously not)...it would still help.

The thing with this though...it's not an anti-depressant. It restores serotonin. When serotonin is restored...that helps with depression, anxiety, memory problems, sleep problems among many things.
420marijuana420
04-02-2007, 05:13 AM
would this help you in the middle of a panic atack?
Maverick15963
04-02-2007, 08:22 PM
I'd agree with Mac. They probably just got used to it and didn't even notice it after a while.