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03-01-2005, 06:16 PM #1
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Do you want to help stop America?
I don't think any country is ever right 100% or the time or wrong 100% of the time. The US has committed acts of atrocities like ALL OTHER COUNTRIES. But we've also done a great deal of good.
I think the Geneva Convention is somewhat an antiquated and weird notion. It reminds me of the British redcoats complaining that the American colonists wouldn't fight like gentlemen. They hid behind trees instead of standing in straight lines and getting shot to death. The geneva convention also only applies to another countries military. Al queda and terrorist organizations are not covered under it, but the Iraqi national soldiers would be covered by it. But in this case it really isn't easy to tell the difference. And cutting off the heads of civilians is not covered under the geneva convention either.
And I wouldn't quote Aljezzera as a credible newspaper. Everyone knows they've been sympathetic towards Al Queda, the Bathists and other terrorist networks. You do realize that americans aren't the only group of folks that lie doncha?
France, germany and russia were directly aiding in Saddam circumventing the UN sanctions by dealing in oil with him. They got rich and made Saddam rich at the same time. They knew that if the US went in and overthrew Saddam, their dirty laundry and decade long back room deals with Saddam would come to light.....and they were right cause that's exactly what happened. Where's the outrage over those actions. Russia isn't even listed as a free country anymore. Germany and Japan would both be in a complete state of ruin if we hadn't propped them up through the Monroe Doctrine. and we didn't even make them repay the millions in debt.
Saddam was the first one to ignore the world community, which is why the sanctions were enacted in the first place. Of course it didn't work, since Saddam found bedfellows with the French, Russian and German government. He continually told us he didn't have WMDs but then wouldn't furnish any proof that the weapons he did have (and we know he did have them cause he tested mustard gas on the Kurds) were destroyed. Maybe they don't keep records of that stuff, but they should. He's been uncompliant for decades. And they didn't even really punish him for Kuwait invasion. People are screaming for Bush's head saying he invaded Iraq but what about the invasion of Kuwait, why weren't those folks screaming for Saddam's head? The UN allowed him to run back to Iraq, and wouldn't let Bush Sr. Go in after him and it's been one human rights violation after another since then. All of it could have been averted if the UN would man up and kick some ass when it needs to be kicked.
I think there were better political alternatives to the War in Iraq, or at least a better way to force Saddam into the war. We should have given the UN a time line and said if Saddam doesn't show some credible proof that he has destroyed WMDs and no longer has them then they would have to agree to the War. (of course they wouldn't cause all the countries that voted against the US and Great Britian were found out later to be supporting Saddam) but that would have made them look like the bad guys and not the US. We should have kept the oil for food scandal secret and used that to manipulate France, Germany and Russia to force their hand in helping with the Iraq rebuilding effort. Politics isn't about childish ideology of honesty. If you're the only honest card player at the poker table, you're gonna get all your money taken and go home broke. And I think Bush failed in this sense, he didn't play the part of a good politician.
And if the world community wants me to start listening to them through Nato and the UN. Well, they have to do their part. When there are peace keeping missions the US sends the large majority of troops every single time. During the tsunami we sent our tankers and marines, everyone else sent a handful of guys (well, Japan and Thailand did a great deal) and some money. We put our friends and family on the line while they sit there and talk shit. If the world community wants me to respect them then maybe they shouldn't go against there own sanction and do business with Saddam. Not only does the US house the UN we also pay the large majority of their expenses and we are the ones sending the most troops to assist in their peace keeping goals.
The role of Nato and the UN is in some ways to police the world. The legue of nations failed when it came to Adolf Hitler and Germany, and the UN is a complete failure in their inability to remove terrorist threats.
Spain got hit with a bomb, they removed their troops and some time ago they got hit by another bomb. We warned them that that would be the result, but no, we were the bad guys once again.phillykid420 Reviewed by phillykid420 on . Do you want to help stop America? One let me first say this is not a joke, all I can say is that this needs to be spread as much as possible in any means such as this forum and other places across the world, to get the world community involved in this, for those that care about their lives, and future, because what happens in the world effects us all, and don't think for one second your life has not been affected by the war in Iraq. One thing concerned people around the world can do is write Nato, if you care to I have such Rating: 5
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